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post Jun 12 2009, 09:21 AM
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post Jun 12 2009, 09:22 AM
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Lining Up Against the Public Option - MKH, The Blog
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post Jun 12 2009, 10:33 AM
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WANTED Person-centered, community-based Wellness Programs with Transparent Program Evaluation Structures,
and accessable consumer inputs mechanisms for program planning...

Any one have this ready to go, there's still stimulus money looking for a home...
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post Jun 12 2009, 10:39 AM
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Health care is a no-brainer.

Remove the words "65 and over" from the existing Medicare law.

Et Voila


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post Jun 12 2009, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(jeffmoskin @ Jun 12 2009, 11:39 AM) *
Health care is a no-brainer.

Remove the words "65 and over" from the existing Medicare law.

Et Voila


Take a good look at Canada's health care system. Identify it's strenghts, it's weaknesses, and go from there!

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I would strongly recommend that the currently elected United States government closely examine how they have been treating people who have been trying to help them defend their country. I am a perfect example of what happens when you treat someone with NO criminal record (anywhere) with contempt and mistrust. Now I am adamant about this subject.... in order words... the beatings shall continue until moral improves!!!!!

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I would like to personally thank the currently elected United States government (and perhaps the Bush administration) for ushering in sweeping changes to U.S. Border Guard polices which have resulted in a much much more professional representation of the Constitution of the United States, which in my humble opinion, holds and promotes the basic concept that a man is innocent until proven guilty and only then in a court of law, and for indirectly recognizing the system of law that is currently in effect and administered by the Canadian government. I had an experience recently, thank you, thank you, thank you very much! That has changed my opinion entirely concerning the conduct of the U.S. Border Guard. All I can say at this point, is that if Homeland Security is maintaining this level of professionalism across all it's port of entries then they have succeeded in greatly improving U.S. and Canadian foreign relations where it counts the most. In the treatment of law abiding citizens!!!! All I'll say is that my most recent experience, while unintentional on my part, was handled most professionally and most courteously by the U.S. Border Guard and based on that, I will from here on in, have only good things to say about them. Not wanting add a little pressure, I will be expecting this level of professionalism and possible improvements from this day forward. - Perry Stuart Gordon Anderson, 117 729 806, October 11, 2009

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post Jun 12 2009, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(jeffmoskin @ Jun 12 2009, 11:39 AM) *
Health care is a no-brainer.

Remove the words "65 and over" from the existing Medicare law.

Et Voila


And Transform the current Reactive, Medical Services for sale format to a Wellness Format, facilitated by A Public Health Engineer and other Community Development Specialists in all branches of the Arts and Sciences and the
Technologies being spun off for building Families, Communities, Businesses and other collaborative ventures...

It is to the system's advantage to structure its activities to best support over-all Wellness for every body and
to provide a Minimum Level of Medical care to everyone without regard to the individual cost of any one person's
care...It serves a system's value for everyone to have minium care and whatever additional care they merrit
and can accuire...
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post Jun 12 2009, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(perrya @ Jun 12 2009, 11:44 AM) *
QUOTE(jeffmoskin @ Jun 12 2009, 11:39 AM) *
Health care is a no-brainer.

Remove the words "65 and over" from the existing Medicare law.

Et Voila


Take a good look at Canada's health care system. Identify it's strenghts, it's weaknesses, and go from there!

Have a nice day!

- Perry


Its amazing how much one can see, just by looking...
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post Jun 12 2009, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(rla @ Jun 12 2009, 11:52 AM) *
And Transform the current Reactive, Medical Services for sale format to a Wellness Format, facilitated by A Public Health Engineer and other Community Development Specialists in all branches of the Arts and Sciences and the
Technologies being spun off for building Families, Communities, Businesses and other collaborative ventures...

It is to the system's advantage to structure its activities to best support over-all Wellness for every body and
to provide a Minimum Level of Medical care to everyone without regard to the individual cost of any one person's
care...It serves a system's value for everyone to have minium care and whatever additional care they merrit
and can accuire...

Just so happens I belong to Kaiser Permanente, whose model would cover all 300 million Americans for less money than we all now spend for inferior coverage for 250 million. Here is the difference:

1. No lawsuits. All Kaiser members agree to binding arbitration for any and all disputes. There goes 20%

2. No insurance companies. Another 20%

3. Electronic recordkeeping, cutting clerical costs. Call it 10%

So for half the money, you get real, honest-to-goodness health care.

If I were Obama, I would COPY THIS MODEL.


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post Jun 13 2009, 11:56 AM
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The Healthcare War Has Officially Begun - Robert Reich, Salon
ObamaCare Can Be Defeated - Yuval Levin & Bill Kristol, Weekly Standard
White House's Secret Moves On Health Care - Marc Ambinder, CBS News
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post Jun 13 2009, 11:56 AM
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post Jun 14 2009, 07:34 AM
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The Healthcare War Has Officially Begun - Robert Reich, Salon
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post Jun 14 2009, 07:57 AM
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End the War on Drugs...Start a Wellness movement...
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post Jun 14 2009, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(rla @ Jun 14 2009, 06:57 AM) *
End the War on Drugs...Start a Wellness movement...

War on Drugs.

1969 - 2009

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post Jun 15 2009, 07:15 AM
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Health care bill brings on lobbying rush With health care reform, Congress is prepping to reshape roughly one-sixth of the economy. Big pharmaceutical and insurance companies have poured millions of dollars into lobbying over the broad strokes of the legislation. But even the details will send shocks through smaller players across the country, and they're spending money on K Street, too.
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:47 AM
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The Health Reform We Need & Are Not Getting
By Arnold Relman
Despite a presidential commitment to and wide popular support for a health care overhaul, the reforms now being debated are missing the main target. They will expand insurance coverage in the short term, but they will create a system even less affordable than the one we have.
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:53 AM
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BERNIE HORN
New Poll Shows Tremendous Support for Public Health Care Option Eighty-three percent of Americans favor and only 14 percent oppose "creating a new public health insurance plan that anyone can purchase" according to EBRI, a conservative business research organization. This flatly contradicts conservatives' loudest attack against President Obama's plan to provide quality, affordable health care for all.
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:54 AM
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ROBERT B. REICH
The Healthcare War is Now Official robertreich.blogspot.com - The American Medical Association came out against a public option for health care. And the President reaffirmed his support for it. The next weeks will show what Obama is made of - whether he's willing and able to take on the most formidable lobbying coalition he has faced so far on an issue that will define his presidency. The President can't do this alone. You must weigh in and get everyone you know to weigh in, too.

CLIVE CROOK
Medicare For All May Be The Cure ft.com - Medicare for all would give the U.S. truly universal coverage and better control of costs. It would preserve choice of doctor and hospital, and private insurance for supplementary services could co-exist for those who wanted it. The demise of employer-provided plans would make labor more mobile and relieve workers of the worry that losing their job means losing their health insurance.
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:55 AM
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Obama Faces The AMA Health Care Blog's Michael Millenson previews today's presidential address to the AMA: "Look for Obama to remind the doctors how many more uninsured patients they're seeing today and how much more involved Medicare has become in setting doctor pay scales."; NYT speculates on possible concession restraining malpractice liability; OurFuture.org FLASHBACK: "Capping jury awards would have almost no impact on health costs, according to the Congressional Budget Office. But it would help conservatives protect insurance company profits, instead of patients victimized by fraud or negligence." More background from Committee for Justice for All.; Sen. Dick Durbin offered mild resistance to taxing employer benefits on CBS' Face The Nation; USA Today reports Baucus will unveil draft bill this week: "More details about public insurance and how lawmakers intend to pay for overhauling the health care system, which could cost more than $1 trillion [over 10 years], are likely to emerge this week when the Senate Finance Committee releases a draft bill."; The Hill recaps Sen. Kent Conrad's criticism during CNN interview of public plan option: "'In a 60-vote environment, you've got to attract some Republicans as well as holding virtually all the Democrats together, and that, I don't believe, is possible with a pure public option. I don't think the votes are there,' Conrad said on the morning talk show ..."; The Treatment's Jacob Hacker dissects the weakness in Conrad's compromise: "[Non-profit cooperatives] have been hard to establish or extend, and when they have been established, they've been under constant siege from doctors and insurers and eventually largely operated as private insurance plans or weak purchasing arrangements. It is hard to see how any sort of decentralized cooperative model could do what a public plan can do ..."; CNN has more on Senate "moderate" criticism on public plan option; Change.org's Tim Foley on the track record of the so-called moderates: "... if your proposed solution for our health care crisis is something we already have, then by definition, it's already proven that it does not dramatically change the game on controlling costs or expanding access."; Americans United for Change air new ad challenging obstructionists to get behind the 62% supporting the president's plan; W. Post reports intra-party dispute over paying for health care reform;
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:59 AM
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Skyrocketing Medical Costs Putting Care Out of Reach

Skyrocketing medical costs are pricing care out of reach for families and business, leaving us without good health insurance choices.

Since 2000, family health insurance premiums have risen 57%.

47 million Americans are uninsured, up from 38 million in 2000, including 9 million kids.

Only 60% of American businesses offered health benefits in 2007, down from 69% in 2000.

More than half of all personal bankruptcies are due to medical bills.
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post Jun 15 2009, 11:14 AM
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Obama Must Take On the Giant Lobbyists Blocking Health Care Reform

Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Blog

Health and Wellness: This is one of those battles that define the state of American democracy.
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