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post Mar 19 2005, 06:15 AM
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Prodigy's suicide came without harbingers Denver Post
From the time he taught himself to read at 18 months, played the piano at age 3 and graduated from high school at 10, Brandenn Bremmer shocked and amazed people with the unfathomable talent of an academic and musical prodigy. But this past week, at 14, he did something else that those closest to him struggle to understand: He took his own life. ... Later that afternoon, when his parents returned home from grocery shopping, they found him with an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. There was no suicide note.
Prodigy dies from gunshot wound Rocky Mountain News
Child prodigy dies in an apparent suicide The Casper Star Tribune
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post Mar 19 2005, 06:42 AM
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JOE DUGGAN wrote in 2001 in the Lincoln Journal Star about Brandenn Bremmer: "Boy genius set to become youngest-ever grad of Independent Study High School program"
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Brandenn Bremmer, 10, absorbed a stack of textbooks and class materials to complete his education in the Independent Study High School program at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. NEAR VENANGO - Like any 10-year-old kid on the cusp of summer, Brandenn Bremmer can't wait to seize the days. There are golf balls to hit. There are fish to catch. There's tents to pitch and campfires to build. And there's robots to program and Venus fly traps to propagate and Beethoven piano concertos to polish. But first, there's a high school diploma to pick up. That's right, the intellectual wonder kid from southwest Nebraska is graduating from high school. On June 15 (2001), the 10-year-old with brown curls and blue eyes will walk across a stage on the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's East Campus to accept his diploma from the Independent Study High School. The young scholar with an IQ more than twice his weight has blazed his own academic trail - with guidance from his home-schooling parents. Not since preschool has he participated in traditional education, but there's one high school tradition he'd really like to experience. "I want to graduate with a cap and gown," he said at his family's rural Perkins County home. So with a handshake and a repositioning of the tassel, Brandenn will set a record for the 72-year-old Independent Study program. And with a grade-point average around 3.7, nonetheless. "This will be a first," said Jim Schiefelbein, the program's principal. "We've had young students before, but as a 10-year-old diploma student graduating, this will be a first." Brandenn's life has been full of firsts. By pure happenstance, he demonstrated to his mother that he knew the alphabet when he was just 18 months old. At 2, he could read and memorize children's books. At 5, he took an IQ test and scored 178 - by comparison, 130 is considered "gifted" and 150 gets the "genius" label. At first, Martin and Patti Bremmer didn't know where to turn with their profoundly gifted child. A local school teacher suggested they slow Brandenn down until he was 6 and could enroll in kindergarten. They soon realized home schooling was their only option. In his 6th year - when most kids his age start kindergarten - Brandenn took his first correspondence high school classes through Independent Study. Hyperintelligent kids process information differently, so the Bremmers were advised to let their son set his own agenda and go at his own pace. If Brandenn was really interested in a subject, he'd ravage it like a great white shark. He snarfed a semester's worth of Biology II in two weeks. He digested Agronomy I in one week. "I always was a big science buff," Brandenn recalled. Early on, with Patti's guidance, he'd spend a couple hours in the morning reading texts and doing assignments. He took breaks to watch "Bill Nye the Science Guy" or play Math Blaster on the computer. He also liked helping with the family's dog breeding business, riding his bike, playing piano, roughhousing with his dad or smacking a Top Flite or two at the local golf course. Then, last November (2000), he decided to finish high school in time to graduate in the spring. The Bremmers took stock of his credits and found he was a junior. Brandenn buckled down."He completed two years of high school in seven months," Patti said. "It was six days a week, seven in the morning to seven at night." Along the way, his parents hired tutors as needed. And he sat in on some classes at the University of Nebraska at Kearney just to see what college was like. To help cover the roughly $17,000 cost for tuition, books, materials and tutors, Brandenn qualified for grants through the Davidson Young Scholars program. The founders of the educational software company selected him as one of 15 students nationwide to participate in their pilot program for profoundly gifted children. "That's been a real blessing because it wouldn't have been possible to graduate this year without their help," his dad said. But there's a lot more to high school than computers and books. Brandenn's never ridden a school bus, never been sent to the principal's office, never seen his name on an honor roll. Has he even had time for childhood? Yes, he has, said Linda Silverman, a licensed psychologist who directs the Gifted Development Center in Denver. It's just that Brandenn's childhood defies a conventional definition. "When we start to say he's lost his childhood or his parents are terrible for doing this to their child - however well-intentioned it may be - it is so far from the truth," Silverman said. Exceptionally gifted kids have minds wired in ways researchers can hardly describe. Forcing them into traditional school settings leaves them bored, frustrated, anxious, even depressed. "If we have this image of the sick, puny, gifted kids, it's because we're making them that way," she said. "They're not in the regular trajectory, if you try to make them have a 'normal' childhood, you destroy them." Silverman has worked with gifted children for 40 years. She said Brandenn Bremmer is one of the nicest kids she's ever known, a credit to his upbringing. "He's a very special young man," she said. "He's not a nerd. He's not a showoff. He's very socially poised and he treats people very well. "He's in wonderful emotional shape." So what's next for the wonder kid? He and his parents will explore some options for college. He met and liked a music professor at Colorado State University in Fort Collins, which is significantly closer to Venango than Lincoln. But there are lots of factors to consider before a decision is made. In the meantime, Martin and Brandenn are looking forward to watching some movies on the VCR this summer. And he's already tried out his graduation gift: a nylon camping tent. Seems like the Venus fly traps are always hungry. The golf course beckons, as does the digital piano in the living room. Just as they've done all along, Brandenn's parents will be there to support his explorations. "Now it's really time to learn things about life," Martin said. "He can learn spiritually and emotionally who he wants to become, because that's what life is about."

At age 14, Brandenn Bremmer committed suicide!


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post Mar 19 2005, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(theglobalchinese @ Mar 19 2005, 02:42 PM)
JOE DUGGAN wrote in 2001 in the Lincoln Journal Star about Brandenn Bremmer: "Boy genius set to become youngest-ever grad of Independent Study High School program"

At age 14, Brandenn Bremmer committed suicide!
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post Mar 19 2005, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(gabriellemy @ Mar 19 2005, 09:26 AM)
ok, but what's YOUR point?
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A great sadness for an incredibly genius life of a promising young boy who died much too early for whatever reasons.


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post Mar 19 2005, 06:11 PM
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This is really incomprehensible, bizarre and ghoulish:
"We're rationalizing now," Patricia Bremmer said. "He had this excessive need to help people and teach people. ... He didn't want to impose on anyone. He was so connected with the spiritual world, we felt he could hear people's needs and desires and their cries. We just felt like something touched him that day and he knew he had to leave" to get his organs to people in need.

She said his kidneys went to two people, his liver to a 22-month old and his heart to an 11-year-old boy."

This is quoted from the Rocky Mountain News article (see the link from Globalchinese post.)

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post Mar 19 2005, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Istoodforu @ Mar 19 2005, 06:11 PM)
She said his kidneys went to two people, his liver to a 22-month old and his heart to an 11-year-old



beautiful gesture.....where he is, now, he does not need them anymore smile.gif and save the life of 2 young people.
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:59 PM
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Maybe he was so much of a genius that he knew something we don't. If there was no note, there's nothing to let anyone know one way or another. I'm sad for the living, we could use more genius in the world.


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QUOTE(mistral @ Mar 19 2005, 06:27 PM)
beautiful gesture.....where he is, now, he does not need them anymore smile.gif and save the life of 2 young people.
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I may have miscommunicated. I think organ donation is a very good thing. It's these circumstances that seem weird. There's a suggestion that this was an altruistic suicide, so his organs could be donated.


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Such a sad, strange story!


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post Mar 21 2005, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(heart @ Mar 19 2005, 08:59 PM)
Maybe he was so much of a genius that he knew something we don't.  If there was no note, there's nothing to let anyone know one way or another.  I'm sad for the living, we could use more genius in the world.
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QUOTE(heart @ Mar 19 2005, 08:59 PM)
Maybe he was so much of a genius that he knew something we don't.  If there was no note, there's nothing to let anyone know one way or another.  I'm sad for the living, we could use more genius in the world.
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Perhaps he was smart enough to figure out some things that one wishes to never know.

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QUOTE(crward @ Mar 22 2005, 03:23 PM)
Perhaps he was smart enough to figure out some things that one wishes to never know.
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Having a bad day, crward?

I suppose it's possible that a 14 year old, no matter how brilliant, might have a difficult time coming to terms with existential anxieties that we grownups can barely acknowledge without turning to such crutches as religion and drugs.

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QUOTE(Pegatha @ Mar 22 2005, 08:04 PM)
Having a bad day, crward?

I suppose it's possible that a 14 year old, no matter how brilliant, might have a difficult time coming to terms with existential anxieties that we grownups can barely acknowledge without turning to such crutches as religion and drugs.

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Perhaps no one gave him the time to be a kid.
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QUOTE(brendan @ Mar 23 2005, 03:10 AM)
Perhaps no one gave him the time to be a kid.
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I'm sure a lot of people are asking this exact question. My heart goes out to this family. And while I may have done things differently than these parents, in my opinion, I feel they loved their son and did the best they could at the time.
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I agree with Pegatha's comment. He maybe just kind of 'crashed' like computers can. I would take comfort, if I was his parent, that he had done so much in his short life, that it was not wasted trying to fit into a normal school and failing to. Suicides happen daily, life is incredibly precious and we are living on the edge of eternity every day without even stepping across the road.


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Brendan is right. He was never able to make the social/interpersonal connections that most kids get through school (he had no real peers, let alone ones his age or someone he could relate to), this probably caused him to feel extremely disassociated and disconnected at a point in his life where he was emotionally least able to deal with it.


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QUOTE(so angry I could spit @ Mar 25 2005, 07:26 AM)
Brendan is right. He was never able to make the social/interpersonal connections that most kids get through school (he had no real peers, let alone ones his age or someone he could relate to), this probably caused him to feel extremely disassociated and disconnected at a point in his life where he was emotionally least able to deal with it.
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I like the way you put that. It's hard for children with this high of giftedness to feel connected in public schools. PS often don't have the resources to teach them or the counseling to help them adjust. And their interests are often so unique that it's hard for peers (and even adults) to relate to them. I would go bonkers having to wait 3-4 months (or years) for others to catch up, while regurgitating information I learned some time ago. That alone would affect how I relate to others, or how others relate to me.
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i'm beginning to resent the whole 'gifted thing': as far as i can tell, kids love to learn, if they've been taught to, all starts from home and the effort you put in.

as if few kindegarten and school teachers are able to do that while herding dozens without any previously built foundation.

why should THEY adjust?

and WHAT should they adjust to?

if the only way for an intelligent person in a society to become 'accepted' means mimicing ignorant bullies, perhaps they are better off dead than suffering the 'existence' they're allowed on these terms.

the whole issue was nicely rounded up in some american movie: teacher shows class bookcover opens, too...

the difficulty of creating bonds is hard to overcome: how can you have even a conversation w others, esp your own age, when they usually haven't got a faintest clue what you're talking about - as if trying to explain e=mc to a neanderthal...

what do you do when one of the company doesn't see 'SALE' a life-and-death issue? zero common ground


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QUOTE(gabriellemy @ Mar 25 2005, 08:07 AM)
i'm beginning to resent the whole 'gifted thing': as far as i can tell, kids love to learn, if they've been taught to, all starts from home and the effort you put in.

as if few kindegarten and school teachers are able to do that while herding dozens without any previously built foundation.

why should THEY adjust?

and WHAT should they adjust to?
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I should have put "adjust" in quotes, as I was feeling ironic. My [gifted: I don't like labels, either] son was told he needed to "adjust" and he walked out of school and absolutely refused to go back. We said, "OK." And haven't regretted it for a moment.
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