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Whoa! GanGuckert possibly being Johnny Goesch hits mainstream... IOWA! A cold case is heating up. Iowa paperboy Johnny Gosch vanished without a trace in 1982. But, now, after KWWL's story last month on Johnny's disappearance, there is new information on the case. A private investigator working Johnny's disappearance believe his kidnapping was part of a government conspiracy. The investigator shared new evidence with KWWL and it could be the break needed to solve this case. That evidence includes a recorded phone call that has never been heard publicly, until now. During the early morning of Septmeber 5, 1982, Johnny Gosch was kidnapped from a West Des Moines neighborhood while delivering newspapers. It was silent, quick and professional. "This man has told us that at the end of their investigation that there were 834 kids involved that were kidnapped," says James Rothstein. He's talking about a former CIA agent who must remain anonymous. Rothstein is a former New York City police detective, now a private investigator working the case for Johnny's mother, Noreen. And within the last couple weeks, Rothstein has uncovered new evidence linking Johnny's kidnapping to child prostitution. "It basically came down to one thing and one thing only. You know, it was money. These kids were being grabbed to satisfy the malignant, twisted, you know, evil depravity of very powerful individuals who have the money," he says. Rothstein is talking about individuals who would spend as much as $10,000 to have sex with young boys and girls. And this new evidence points to the involvement of U.S. government officials. "They were using kids to compromise people. And what better way to compromise somebody than get a young boy with a politician or some powerful person that may be in the military or whatever and then you can compromise them and get what ever you want." Last month, people on the internet and investigators like Rothstein began to believe a man who passed himself off as a White House reporter and known male prostitute Jeff Gannon could be Johnny Gosch. And while Gannon's true idenity still can't be confirmed, Rothstein says the more clues he uncovers, the possibility Gannon may be Gosch increases, "When you look into the whole abduction of Johnny, what happened, the cover-up that took place, the way the kidnapping was done, this was a professional job and it fits the profile that I have seen over the years as a professional investigator." Rothstein now believes the CIA was involved and tried cover it up. "They were assigned to find out if there was an agency connection to it and I am quite sure that if they found one, to make sure it was covered," he says. And Rothstein's CIA informant says this: "We were specifically ordered to clear our name. This would make the American agency look pretty s****y, like we're all a bunch of f***ing child molesters." We requested information from the CIA on three kidnappings, Rothstein and his CIA informant believes to be connected. The first, Johnny Gosch, the second, Eugene Martin, kidnapped on August 12th, 1984 while delivering newspapers in Des Moines. And, Jacob Wetterling, who was kidnapped from his Minnesota neighborhood on October 22, 1989. The CIA responded to our request with this letter, denying the agency investigated any of the kidnapping cases. But, Rothstein's source says, it happened often and for big bucks, "You could order one of these kids, it was $2,500 to $3,000 up front then you had the balance of another $3,000 to $3,500 or $4,000 upon completion. In some cases, you know depending on the circumstances you can probably get them at the bargain basement price of $1,500, but most I think that we ever saw was for the bondage and the freaky s**t and that was an even $10,000 and people...these people would hand that money out like it was candy." That's what it cost to hire a kidnapper to steal a child like Johnny off the street. And with new details like this coming to light, catching Johnny's kidnappers might actually happen. "Any police agency that would get involved in this case to this date can solve that case. The case is more solvable now, than it has even been. And that case should have been solved hours after it happened. The witnesses are out there. You yourself have found some," Rothstein says. Those witnesses include a Black Hawk County woman who wishes to remain anonymous. She sent Rothstein this packet of information. "Johnny Gosch is mentioned in it involving something that was going on years ago in the Waterloo, Iowa area," Rothstein says. And while Rothstein hasn't determined the significance of the possible Waterloo connection, he says it's just as important as the phone conversation he had with a CIA agent. "That's solid information with names. That's where you start investigating and that should have been done years ago," he says. And because it wasn't, Rothstein continues to make phone calls, and work leads, hoping his next big break is the one that solves the mystery behind the disapperance of Johnny Gosch. For the past month, Rothstein has been tracking the activities of two suspects he believes could be responsible for kidnapping Johnny Gosch. We couldn't name them in our report because it hurt the investigation. We agreed to keep their identities secret so we could tell you this story. -------------------- Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't ju know I'm loco!
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May 26 2005, 05:50 AM
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If someone can break this-it ties directly to GEORGE BUSH41 and the family.
It would bring them all crashing down, and reveal there is also an illegal slush fund money laundering scheme. -------------------- Bobby dreamed things that never were and say "Why not?" TEDDY made those dreams come alive and be a reality.
RE-ELECT BARACK OBAMA 2012 PRESIDENT MICHELLE OBAMA 2016 "Because Rosa sat,Martin walked.And because Martin walked,Barack ran."-author unknown, posted by jeffmoskin here. "God bless Obama. God bless America. And God bless the others outside our borders." - Kris Kristofferson First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win - Gandhi "News is what somebody somewhere doesn't want you to know. All the rest is advertising."- DAN RATHER [color="#0000FF"]"I'd rather have the right to do something, than the right to stop someone else"-David Souter There is no planning. On the night it is really great, it’s euphoria and if it is not so great there is always tomorrow night.-Honesty is the single most important factor in having a direct bearing on the final success of an individual, corporation, or product. Ed McMahon...Heerrrrrrrrrrre's Eddie"...the angels announcing Ed at the gates of heaven-R.I.P. Ed,God must have needed a second banana |
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May 26 2005, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE(graham4anything @ May 26 2005, 05:50 AM) If someone can break this-it ties directly to GEORGE BUSH41 and the family. It would bring them all crashing down, and reveal there is also an illegal slush fund money laundering scheme. You know I was thinking about it. I hope that investigator takes care of himself. There have been some things happening to those who happen to be snooping around. -------------------- Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't ju know I'm loco!
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May 26 2005, 06:05 AM
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QUOTE(XicanoPwr @ May 26 2005, 07:57 AM) You know I was thinking about it. I hope that investigator takes care of himself. There have been some things happening to those who happen to be snooping around. I remember this story from back then, had forgotten about it til someone reminded me a few months ago, how the press never covered this then. It would have been a natural for Rolling Stone then. -------------------- Bobby dreamed things that never were and say "Why not?" TEDDY made those dreams come alive and be a reality.
RE-ELECT BARACK OBAMA 2012 PRESIDENT MICHELLE OBAMA 2016 "Because Rosa sat,Martin walked.And because Martin walked,Barack ran."-author unknown, posted by jeffmoskin here. "God bless Obama. God bless America. And God bless the others outside our borders." - Kris Kristofferson First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win - Gandhi "News is what somebody somewhere doesn't want you to know. All the rest is advertising."- DAN RATHER [color="#0000FF"]"I'd rather have the right to do something, than the right to stop someone else"-David Souter There is no planning. On the night it is really great, it’s euphoria and if it is not so great there is always tomorrow night.-Honesty is the single most important factor in having a direct bearing on the final success of an individual, corporation, or product. Ed McMahon...Heerrrrrrrrrrre's Eddie"...the angels announcing Ed at the gates of heaven-R.I.P. Ed,God must have needed a second banana |
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May 26 2005, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE(graham4anything @ May 26 2005, 06:05 AM) I remember this story from back then, had forgotten about it til someone reminded me a few months ago, how the press never covered this then. It would have been a natural for Rolling Stone then. Well it does remind me of a certain author who also got a lot of heat when he reported about it back in Feb. Gannongate threatens to expose a huge GOP pedophile and male prostitution ring By Wayne Madsen http://www.onlinejournal.com/Media/021805M...1805madsen.html February 18, 2005—Now that is has been discovered that "Jeff Gannon" (real name James D. Guckert), a "reporter" for Talon News Service, a front operation run by the conservative Republican-oriented GOPUSA.com, was using an alias as a cleared White House reporter, details are emerging that threaten to immerse the Bush administration in a major scandal. "Gannongate," which is only now being mentioned by the mainstream news media, threatens to expose a potentially damaging GOP pedophile and male prostitution ring dating back to the 1980s and the administration of George H. W. Bush. James D. Guckert, using the name Jeff Gannon and possibly other aliases, was also running gay porn sites, one with a U.S. Marine Corps theme that solicited males for prostitution. SNIP GOPUSA.com is run by a right-wing Texan and Bush friend named Bobby Eberle. In 2003, GOPUSA.com launched a vicious anti-Semitic attack against international financier George Soros, a leading philanthropist for progressive causes and a major contributor to the Democratic Party. In 2003, Gannon was reportedly given access by White House staff to a classified State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research memorandum regarding a CIA meeting involving the dispatch of former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson to Niger to investigate claims, which turned out to be false, that Iraq had attempted to procure yellowcake uranium from the West African country. The Wilson case ultimately led to a leak to the media by unnamed White House staff of Wilson's wife's name and identity as a covert CIA agent. It was also revealed that Jeffgannon.com had been registered by the same Delaware-based company that had registered other Republican-oriented web sites, along with those catering to pornographic military gay themes and male escort services. TalonNews.com and GOPUSA.com are both registered to Endeavor Media Group LLC, operating from Post Office Box 891354 in Houston, Texas. The phone number provided is 999-999-9999. The registrant for a series of web sites, including Jeffgannon.com, Theconservativeguy.com, Exposejessejackson.com, Militaryescorts.com, militaryescortsm4m.com, and hotmilitarystud.com is Bedrock Corporation of 4001 Kennett Pike in Wilmington, Delaware. Bedrock is owned by Jim Guckert, the apparent real identity of Jeff Gannon. The administrative contact for Bedrock was listed as "J. Daniels," possibly another alias. After the Gannon story broke, militaryescorts.com and hotmilitarystud.com were redirected to a secure log-in site at Cupertino, California-based www.dividezero.net/, which was registered to GKG.Net, which had a contact email in College Station, Texas, the home of Texas A&M University and the George H.W. Bush presidential library. Dividezero.net had a secure log-in window but no subscription information. Experts who track illegal content on the web, including child pornography, report that such sites are common where log-in information is provided separately by regular mail so that the identities of subscribers cannot be easily tracked by online enrollment and entry of credit card information. And this one. GOP pedophilia and S&M trysts: A long history going back to Bush 41 and Reagan http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Repor...0305madsen.html March 3, 2005—The recent scandal involving gay male escort and right-wing faux journalist Jeff Gannon (a.k.a. James Dale Guckert and possibly a few other aliases) is not welcome news for the purported sadomasochistic hedonists in the White House administrations of both George W. and George H. W. Bush. As with their fascist fellow travelers in Hitler's Germany, Franco's Spain, and "The Colonels'" Greece, many of the fascists associated with the Bush family have a predilection for sex with children and young recruits within the U.S. military. However, since the 1980s, the Bush cabal has been able to keep the GOP's dark secrets away from the disinfectant of sunshine and media attention. Except for the outbreak of news stories concerning the Franklin Credit Union-Lawrence King-Craig Spence child prostitution scandal in 1989 that involved midnight tours of the White House for underage male sex slaves from Nebraska and reached high into the upper echelons of the elder Bush administration, little has been heard about the sex crimes of top Republicans. That is, until it was revealed that "Jeff Gannon" was intricately tied to GOP operatives ranging from George W. Bush political "Svengali" Karl Rove, to White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, and Texas GOP provocateur Bobby Eberle. In typical Bush scandal fashion, Eberle's "Talon News Service" has disappeared as fast as Jeff Gannon from the James Brady Briefing Room and Doug Wead's secret tapes of Bush from the public ear—tapes that, at the very least, indicated Bush's prior use of marijuana, cocaine, and LSD. As this writer has previously reported, during the early 1980s, a number of naval officers were implicated in a child pornography ring that extended from Oregon to the San Francisco Bay area and to Chicago and Washington, DC. The story about that ring was covered up by then-Secretary of the Navy John Lehman who engaged in similar cover-ups of the Navy's "Tailhook" scandal involving the sexual assault by naval aviators of women, including at least one underage teen, and the gun turret explosion on the USS Iowa, originally and erroneously blamed by Navy investigators on a despondent gay sailor. The GOP appointed Lehman to the 9-11 Commission, which issued a final report that many victims' families and investigators determined was a whitewash. The fact that Gannon/Guckert, a male escort who adopted a military theme for his clientele, was made privy to classified information involving CIA covert agent Valerie Plame and her husband's (former Ambassador Joseph Wilson) trip to Niger to investigate possible uranium shipments, has a precedent with prior GOP illegal sexcapades involving national security breaches. The Franklin pedophile cover-up was mirrored by the Navy pedophile affair that also breached national security during the height of the Cold War. The cover-up of the pedophile ring involving senior naval personnel ran right up the chain-of-command to the Pentagon offices of then-Secretary of the Navy Lehman, Assistant Defense Secretary Richard Perle, and Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and the White House offices of Vice President George H. W. Bush, and Reagan Chief of Staff and close Bush confidant James Baker III. As someone intimately involved in the investigation of the Navy case and as a victim of the cover-up, this reporter is publishing for the first time correspondence and documents on the Navy affair so that the current Bush sex scandal, "Gannongate," does not go the way of the Nebraska/Washington, DC, Navy, and Abu Ghraib/Guantanamo scandals. (One note of interest: the "X" in the Case Control Number 718XNA refers to the FBI's cross referencing file numbering system. The "X" means that the case is a "X" case–meaning that the case is of extreme sensitivity, the "NA" following the "X" refers to the Navy. There are, in fact, "X Files," but they have nothing to do with aliens but very much to do with high-level government officials engaged in off-the-wall activities, like pedophilia and prostitution). -------------------- Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't ju know I'm loco!
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May 26 2005, 12:19 PM
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This is an old story that simply won't go away, even though many deny it or try to cover it up. I was telling someone about this the other day and they thought I'd been snorting Miracle-Gro, and I told them they could find the court documents in Omaha, and they could get themselves a copy of the video documentary done for the Discovery Channel but which was absolutely quashed (but not before a copy with not-crisp video but solid audio was spirited away...!). The links to people in high power are many, and chilling.
I hope that someone keeps the pressure on... -------------------- "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and our deep gladness?"
"Invoke unconditional love to take precedence over all other agendas and allegiances. Know that through love, there is no separation. All is simultaneously one and different. To love is to be love." "Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do . . . Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do." --MarkTwain "Every gun that is fired, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its labourers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." -- General Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th President of the United States "Kick the war meme out of our collective subconsciousness." --RLA "The natural aristocracy required to lead the emergent evolution of the human social system is a group of ideas, not a group of persons [or corporations]...it is an aristocratic spirit--a passionate love of excellence that nurtures emergent evolution...a love of excellence is to be distinguished from striving for perfection or righteousness." -- RLA "Things don't have to be the way they are." |
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May 26 2005, 12:42 PM
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This screams conspiracy theory, and should be dismissed as such. I hate to break bad news to either of the family members of these abducted children but it's 99.9% likely their children died shortly after being raped, or possibly sold for organs. This is so sickening for most humans to imagine, so we hold out hope, but the fact an active able-bodied child could be restrained and kept quietly anywhere for 2 decades is also so unlikely.
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May 26 2005, 01:27 PM
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This post has been edited by mommadona: May 26 2005, 01:29 PM -------------------- Abramoff's campaign manager was a radical right-winger named Grover Norquist, and the two of them recruited a zealous younger activist to carry out their orders, Ralph Reed. Reed required College Republicans to recite a speech from the movie "Patton," replacing the word "Nazis" with "Democrats": "The Democrats are the enemy. Wade into them. Spill their blood! Shoot them in the belly!"
.....Norquist was the first to point out the political potential of evangelical churches to Reed, imagining that they could be turned into Republican clubhouses. During the week of George H.W. Bush's inauguration, Reed encountered Pat Robertson, the right-wing televangelist, who recruited him on the spot to run the Christian Coalition. "I want to be invisible," Reed explained. "I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don't know it's over until you're in a body bag. You don't know until election night." ~Sidney Blumenthal That’s probably the most pressing race problem in the United States today -- a de facto affirmative-action program for mediocre middle- and upper-class white men that places a lot of undeserving people in positions of power, where their delusions of grandeur can have profound implications for others.~ROBERT JENSEN We may stand witness to a definitive American moment of democracy. The son of a New York doorman probably has in his hands, in many ways, the fate of the republic. Because far too many of us know and are aware of the crimes committed by our government in our name, we are unlikely to settle for a handful of minor indictments of bureaucrats. The last thing most of us believe in is the rule of law. We do not trust our government or the people we have elected but our constitution is still very much alive and we choose to believe that destiny has placed Patrick Fitzgerald at this time and this place in our history to save us from the people we elected. If the law cannot get to the truth of what has happened to the American people under the Bush administration, then we all may begin to hear the early death rattles of history’s greatest democracy.~James Moore "Take whatever idiot they have at the top of whatever agency and give me a better idiot," Broussard said. "Give me a caring idiot. Give me a sensitive idiot. Just don't give me the same idiot."~Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish near New Orleans "You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in them...."~Aaron Brown "What's called for now I believe, is a sort of Thomas Paine Revolutionary movement converged with the Civil Rights and Civil Liberties movements. It's certainly possible, and it is desperately needed..."~SH "My country right or wrong" is like saying, "My mother drunk or sober." ~ G. K. Chesterton "It is a lesson never learned: Matters of state and the heart that start with a lie rarely end well."~Maureen Dowd " ...if by a liberal they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties.. if that is what they mean by a "liberal" then I am proud to be a liberal. " ~John F. Kennedyc “Pollution is nothing but the resources we are not harvesting. We allow them to disperse because we've been ignorant of their value.”~R. Buckminster Fuller1895-1983"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." -- Thomas Jefferson "TurdBlossom": The affectionate nickname given by the POTUS to the most powerful political hack in the world today-KARL ROVE. |
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May 26 2005, 01:47 PM
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I just love that little newspaper. I bet they wish that issue never existed.
-------------------- Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't ju know I'm loco!
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May 26 2005, 01:53 PM
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Now I'm a real conspiracy nut. But I find it hard to believe that 400+ children could be kidnapped, abused, then eventually released without saying anything. Besides, how would these children acquire skills to get into a position like Gannon?
-------------------- Exit Polls: 6 errors in 2200 polls over 13 years. Then 10 errors in one election. You do the math...
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May 26 2005, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(MrJim @ May 26 2005, 01:53 PM) Now I'm a real conspiracy nut. But I find it hard to believe that 400+ children could be kidnapped, abused, then eventually released without saying anything. Besides, how would these children acquire skills to get into a position like Gannon? Ditto here I've always found this story hard to believe and I love a good conspiracy. |
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May 26 2005, 02:01 PM
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Funny thing about Mr. Spence dying of an apparent 'suicide'. Lots of people who had the potential to embarass the Bushes die under strange circumstances.
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May 26 2005, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(MrJim @ May 26 2005, 01:53 PM) Now I'm a real conspiracy nut. But I find it hard to believe that 400+ children could be kidnapped, abused, then eventually released without saying anything. Besides, how would these children acquire skills to get into a position like Gannon? The Lasting Effects of Psychological Trauma on Memory and the Hippocampus http://www.lawandpsychiatry.com/html/hippocampus.htm The invisible epidemic of childhood abuse and other psychological traumas and stressors represents a major public health problem in our society today. Childhood sexual abuse alone affects 16% of women (about 40 million) in the U.S.A. (including rape, attempted rape, or molestation) at some time before their 18th birthday. Childhood abuse is the most common cause of posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) in women, which affects 8% of the population at some time in their lives, although there are a range of other types of psychological trauma that can also lead to symptoms of chronic PTSD, including car accidents, combat, rape and assault. Some of the symptoms of PTSD, which include intrusive memories, nightmares, flashbacks, increased startle and vigilance, social impairment and problems with memory and concentration, may be related to the effects of extreme stress on the brain. Individuals with a history of exposure to childhood abuse or combat had a reduction in volume of a brain area involved in learning and memory called the hippocampus, which is felt to be related to stress, with associated deficits in hippocampal-based learning and memory. Children under stress develop impairments in academic achievement that are specifically related to the development of PTSD. Other symptoms, including fragmentation of memory, intrusive memories, flashbacks, dissociation and pathological emotions, may also be related to hippocampal dysfunction and may explain delayed recall of childhood abuse. The hippocampus has important links to the medial prefrontal cortex, another brain area that mediates emotion and the stress response, dysfunction of which has also been implicated in PTSD. A disease of memory Alterations in memory form an important part of the clinical presentation of patients with PTSD. PTSD patients report deficits in declarative memory (remembering facts or lists, as reviewed below), fragmentation of memories (both autobiographical and trauma-related) and dissociative amnesia (gaps in memory that can occur for minutes to days and are not due to ordinary forgetting). Psychiatric Symptoms Associated with Childhood Abuse PTSD Nightmares Flashbacks Memory & Concentration problems Hyperarousal Hypervigilance Intrusive memories Avoidance Startle reponses Feeling worse with traumatic reminders Dissociative Out of body experiences Derealization Amnesia Fragmented sense of self & identity Anxiety Panic attacks Claustrophobia Substance Abuse Alcoholism Opiate addiction Many abuse victims claim to remember only certain aspects of the abuse event. For instance, a patient who was locked in the closet had an isolated memory of the smell of old clothes and the sound of a clock ticking. Later, she connected that with feelings of intense fear and, then, the entire circumstances relating to the abusive events. PTSD is also associated with alterations in non-declarative memory (i.e., types of memory that cannot be willfully brought up into the conscious mind, including motor memory, such as how to ride a bicycle). These types of non-declarative memories include conditioned responses and abnormal reliving of traumatic memories following exposure to situationally appropriate cues. Many of these memory disturbances may be related to dysfunction of the hippocampus and related brain areas such as medial prefrontal cortex. SNIP Empirical studies on memory and the hippocampus may shed some light on the controversy surrounding delayed recall of memories of childhood abuse. The hippocampus plays an important role in integrating or binding together different aspects of a memory at the time of recollection and is felt to be responsible for locating the memory of an event in time, place and context. We have hypothesized that atrophy and dysfunction of the hippocampus, following exposure to childhood abuse, may lead to distortion and fragmentation of memories.7 For instance, in an abused patient who was locked in the closet, there is a memory of the smell of old clothes but no visual memory of being in the closet and no affective memory of the feeling of fear. Perhaps, with psychotherapy, there is a facilitation of associations to related events that may bring all of the aspects of the memory together. Or, if the patient has an event such as being trapped in a dark elevator, the feeling of fear with darkness and the enclosed space may be enough to trigger a recollection of the entire memory. -------------------- Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't ju know I'm loco!
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May 26 2005, 04:31 PM
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Put your tin foil hats on if you must, but you got's to do your homework...
If the subject is new to you, you can start here... http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolinformation Thank you, MommaDonna, for posting the old article... Thank you, XicanoPower, for posting the research... -------------------- "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and our deep gladness?"
"Invoke unconditional love to take precedence over all other agendas and allegiances. Know that through love, there is no separation. All is simultaneously one and different. To love is to be love." "Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do . . . Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do." --MarkTwain "Every gun that is fired, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its labourers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." -- General Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th President of the United States "Kick the war meme out of our collective subconsciousness." --RLA "The natural aristocracy required to lead the emergent evolution of the human social system is a group of ideas, not a group of persons [or corporations]...it is an aristocratic spirit--a passionate love of excellence that nurtures emergent evolution...a love of excellence is to be distinguished from striving for perfection or righteousness." -- RLA "Things don't have to be the way they are." |
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May 26 2005, 08:13 PM
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Why does a real scandal have to always lead to the dreaded tinfoil society?
Why can't it just be fact. It is the Bush41 code to call everything true a conspircay theory, therefore wiping out any talk about it. This is a serious issue, and we should stop falling for their traps and cut out all conspiracy talk. Keep it focused on the fact of this call boy ring, not if and who the ones were, but the fact that it existed, there is proof of it, and is another impeachable offense. -------------------- Bobby dreamed things that never were and say "Why not?" TEDDY made those dreams come alive and be a reality.
RE-ELECT BARACK OBAMA 2012 PRESIDENT MICHELLE OBAMA 2016 "Because Rosa sat,Martin walked.And because Martin walked,Barack ran."-author unknown, posted by jeffmoskin here. "God bless Obama. God bless America. And God bless the others outside our borders." - Kris Kristofferson First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win - Gandhi "News is what somebody somewhere doesn't want you to know. All the rest is advertising."- DAN RATHER [color="#0000FF"]"I'd rather have the right to do something, than the right to stop someone else"-David Souter There is no planning. On the night it is really great, it’s euphoria and if it is not so great there is always tomorrow night.-Honesty is the single most important factor in having a direct bearing on the final success of an individual, corporation, or product. Ed McMahon...Heerrrrrrrrrrre's Eddie"...the angels announcing Ed at the gates of heaven-R.I.P. Ed,God must have needed a second banana |
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May 26 2005, 08:35 PM
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Pittsburgh anchorman admits to teaching JD Guckert at Morton Blackwell's conservative media mill
http://ancapistan.typepad.com/edit/2005/05...burgh_anch.html Pittsburgh anchorman Scott Baker posts at Arianna Huffington's new blog, The Huffington Post: This is what I get for trying to teach a simple little seminar on media career strategies? Jeff Gannon as my star student? I had more modest goals. Most kids trying to dive into media careers fail miserably. So maybe I can nudge them with a few helpful ideas. Hoped for result: entry level job in, say, a small market television station. Not so hoped for: center square of odd journalism scandal. The Vanity Fair article calls it a seminar for “aspiring right-wing journalists.” My mantra to the students involves getting rid of the “right-wing” and esteeming the value of solid day-to-day journalism. Good old-fashioned storytelling. On the Leadership Institute, I'll just quote from our own Michael Dietz's piece, Becoming Gannon: Just where Guckert learned the art of conservative positioning we have yet to determine. The Jeff Gannon bio at Talon News (since scrubbed) lists as his sole professional credential attendance at the Leadership Institute's School of Broadcast Journalism, though without giving dates. The Leadership Institute, whose mission is "to increase the number and effectiveness of conservative public policy leaders," has been in existence since 1979, when it was founded by longtime Republican Party operative Morton C. Blackwell. The institute claims to have trained more than 40,000 students in its quarter-century history, putting it at the center of a large network of right-wing activists, politicians, journalists and intellectuals. The Broadcast School, so-called, is merely a weekend seminar with a $50 registration fee: but the Institute sponsors any number of training programs, by no means all of them listed on its site, and provides a variety of fellowships and paid, residential internships to its aspiring conservative leaders. Right-wing activist organizations are, of course, frequently interlinked. But the connections between the Leadership Institute, Free Republic (and its web radio project, Free Republic Network, created by millionaire Domino's Pizza franchisee Bob Johnson), and GOPUSA/Talon News are especially rich and suggestive. In August 2002, for instance, the Leadership Institute offered media training at Friva, the Free Republic in Las Vegas conference. A number of Talon News personalities made regular appearances on Radio Free Republic webcasts; it seems likely that the Leadership Institute offered a pipeline into the Free Republic Network, which itself was meant as a waystation to acceptance in more mainstream media. Jeff Gannon, for that matter, is known to have co-hosted a Radio Free Republic webcast with Chuck Muth, a Republican political consultant and one of the Leadership Institute's most prominent and active educators. And Muth's connections may offer us a path directly to whoever in the White House signed off on Gannon. Baker's confession makes this interview look a little incestuous, doesn't it? And JD wants everyone to know he really didn't learn anything from Baker: With all due respect to Mr. Baker, what I learned about journalism was gained from having been the first editor of my high school newspaper and sports editor of my college weekly. Somehow these facts escape those who are more interested in looking at headless photographs and spinning conspiracy theories. OK, JD, if you say so. That was what, over twenty years ago? Really, though - your protests would seem a little less divorced from reality if you hadn't used the Leadership Institute as the sole journalistic credit for your Gannon character's entire career. -------------------- Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't ju know I'm loco!
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May 31 2005, 03:54 PM
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Good night - Gannon to take polygraph on TV
http://www.pamspaulding.com/weblog/ Via Shakes Sis. Editor and Publisher reports that rent-boy Jeff Gannon/James Guckert is going to take a lie detector test on TV, ostensibly to clear his sullied name (as if the man-whoring stories are not enough). Does this guy have any sense of shame? The man with the checkered, male escort, past rode to fame recently as White House correspondent for GOPUSA and Talon News, tossing softball questions at press briefings and then taking a hike. Tonight at 8 p.m on widely available cable channel PAX, Gannon will appear on the show "Lie Detector," hosted by Rolonda ("Inside Edition") Watts. Gannon confirms this on his own Web site. The gimmick for the show, as described on the PAX Web site: "This provocative and often surprising series examines the truth behind real-life stories ripped from the headlines, using the most powerful instrument to detect deception -- the polygraph." Among the questions Gannon will experience strapped to the machine: Was he fed questions by the Bush administration to use as talking points at White House briefings or was he "just a man trying to overcome his past and pursue a career as a journalist?" -------------------- Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't ju know I'm loco!
"Es mejor morir de pie, que continuar viviendo de rodillas" ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees") - Emiliano Zapata |
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May 31 2005, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(XicanoPwr @ May 31 2005, 02:54 PM) Good night - Gannon to take polygraph on TV http://www.pamspaulding.com/weblog/ Via Shakes Sis. Editor and Publisher reports that rent-boy Jeff Gannon/James Guckert is going to take a lie detector test on TV, ostensibly to clear his sullied name (as if the man-whoring stories are not enough). Does this guy have any sense of shame? The man with the checkered, male escort, past rode to fame recently as White House correspondent for GOPUSA and Talon News, tossing softball questions at press briefings and then taking a hike. Tonight at 8 p.m on widely available cable channel PAX, Gannon will appear on the show "Lie Detector," hosted by Rolonda ("Inside Edition") Watts. Gannon confirms this on his own Web site. The gimmick for the show, as described on the PAX Web site: "This provocative and often surprising series examines the truth behind real-life stories ripped from the headlines, using the most powerful instrument to detect deception -- the polygraph." Among the questions Gannon will experience strapped to the machine: Was he fed questions by the Bush administration to use as talking points at White House briefings or was he "just a man trying to overcome his past and pursue a career as a journalist?" This little puppy just keeps giving and giving and giving! -------------------- Abramoff's campaign manager was a radical right-winger named Grover Norquist, and the two of them recruited a zealous younger activist to carry out their orders, Ralph Reed. Reed required College Republicans to recite a speech from the movie "Patton," replacing the word "Nazis" with "Democrats": "The Democrats are the enemy. Wade into them. Spill their blood! Shoot them in the belly!"
.....Norquist was the first to point out the political potential of evangelical churches to Reed, imagining that they could be turned into Republican clubhouses. During the week of George H.W. Bush's inauguration, Reed encountered Pat Robertson, the right-wing televangelist, who recruited him on the spot to run the Christian Coalition. "I want to be invisible," Reed explained. "I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don't know it's over until you're in a body bag. You don't know until election night." ~Sidney Blumenthal That’s probably the most pressing race problem in the United States today -- a de facto affirmative-action program for mediocre middle- and upper-class white men that places a lot of undeserving people in positions of power, where their delusions of grandeur can have profound implications for others.~ROBERT JENSEN We may stand witness to a definitive American moment of democracy. The son of a New York doorman probably has in his hands, in many ways, the fate of the republic. Because far too many of us know and are aware of the crimes committed by our government in our name, we are unlikely to settle for a handful of minor indictments of bureaucrats. The last thing most of us believe in is the rule of law. We do not trust our government or the people we have elected but our constitution is still very much alive and we choose to believe that destiny has placed Patrick Fitzgerald at this time and this place in our history to save us from the people we elected. If the law cannot get to the truth of what has happened to the American people under the Bush administration, then we all may begin to hear the early death rattles of history’s greatest democracy.~James Moore "Take whatever idiot they have at the top of whatever agency and give me a better idiot," Broussard said. "Give me a caring idiot. Give me a sensitive idiot. Just don't give me the same idiot."~Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish near New Orleans "You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in them...."~Aaron Brown "What's called for now I believe, is a sort of Thomas Paine Revolutionary movement converged with the Civil Rights and Civil Liberties movements. It's certainly possible, and it is desperately needed..."~SH "My country right or wrong" is like saying, "My mother drunk or sober." ~ G. K. Chesterton "It is a lesson never learned: Matters of state and the heart that start with a lie rarely end well."~Maureen Dowd " ...if by a liberal they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties.. if that is what they mean by a "liberal" then I am proud to be a liberal. " ~John F. Kennedyc “Pollution is nothing but the resources we are not harvesting. We allow them to disperse because we've been ignorant of their value.”~R. Buckminster Fuller1895-1983"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." -- Thomas Jefferson "TurdBlossom": The affectionate nickname given by the POTUS to the most powerful political hack in the world today-KARL ROVE. |
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May 31 2005, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(XicanoPwr @ May 31 2005, 05:54 PM) Good night - Gannon to take polygraph on TV http://www.pamspaulding.com/weblog/ The gimmick for the show, as described on the PAX Web site: "This provocative and often surprising series examines the truth behind real-life stories ripped from the headlines, using the most powerful instrument to detect deception -- the polygraph." Considering that this airs on PAX, I doubt that it will dig into the things we want to hear about. Besides, my polygraph examiner told me when I had my five-year reinvestigation poly that the machine can't tell if you are lying or not. It can only measure changes in your physiology that can signify that you are under stress. He said that he gets asked about that show all of the time and says that it's B.S. Which explains how someone like Aldrich Ames could pass a polygraph three times, even though he was doing things that were explicity asked about. He was able to fool the machine. That's why polygraphs are inadmissable in court. -------------------- "The devil created the separation of church and state to keep Christians from having their own nation".
- Brother Justin Crowe, "Carnivale" "This is the way liberty dies — to thunderous applause." - Senator Padme Amidala, "Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith" |
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