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ultraist
post Nov 12 2004, 08:03 PM
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WELL SAID BLUE DOG!

Those that are criticizing blogs & the internet are merely threatened by the power of people networking. How many places can you go and connect with a couple of thousand people, instantly?


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post Nov 12 2004, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(MominTN @ Nov 12 2004, 08:01 PM)
We should tell Keith that anyone that clicks on a link to this site or any other referenced site where people type their opinion are now ordained "blogger".  Welcome to the modern age of discussion!
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Agreed, we should have him make that the new term for the people who took down the dog Ann Coulter from having her job on CNN!!!! :D :D :D

How many digs does it take, before you're wiped clean....
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post Nov 12 2004, 08:06 PM
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I think we are REACHING stage 2 of Ghandi's rules on the passage of truth into American consiousness!

SO get buckled up fellow bloggers...

"It's going to be a bumpy ride"... :o

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post Nov 12 2004, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(BlueDog @ Nov 12 2004, 08:03 PM)
Thanks, I'm on it.
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Dear Mr. Matthews:

I am one of millions of viewers who appreciated your courage and candour in covering the greatest story in American politics in recent years. Although the evidence for fraud in this election is not yet conclusive, I am persuaded that a prima facia case already exists for significant irregularities and perhaps massive electronic tampering amounting to the greatest scandal in our history. Even if the odds of this are only one in ten or one in a hundred, it is important our fourth estate not be distracted from its moral obligation to seek out the truth. Free and fair elections should not be the outcome of our political process; they should be the prerequisite to it. Any doubt that our elections have been both free and fair should be investigated until it is disproven or until the means and the perpetrators of the fraud are exposed and brought to justice. Please continue your coverage of this important question.

Sincerely,
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post Nov 12 2004, 08:22 PM
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See, I was thinking the other night about the internet. How did
anyone ever find out about Watergate? This is the best way
to spread news on earth.


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post Nov 12 2004, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Buster0001 @ Nov 12 2004, 09:22 PM)
See, I was thinking the other night about the internet.  How did
anyone ever find out about Watergate?  This is the best way
to spread news on earth.
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NIXON HAD LIMITS and he didn't have KARL ROVE..the evil genius...

I've said for several years now that the INTERNET IS THE ONLY THING LEFT THAT CAN SAVE DEMOCRACY...

GOD I hope I'm right!


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post Nov 12 2004, 08:46 PM
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Have you signed the petition to ask congress to investigate the election results?

http://www.petitiononline.com/uselect/petition.html
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post Nov 13 2004, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(ultraist @ Nov 12 2004, 08:03 PM)
WELL SAID BLUE DOG!

Those that are criticizing blogs & the internet are merely threatened by the power of people networking. How many places can you go and connect with a couple of thousand people, instantly?
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No Kidding!!!

The Power of the Internet:The Rise of Open-Source Politics
Why they fear us here and at DailyKos, MyDD, Eschaton, Democratic Underground and Buzzflash, Smirking Chimp: We finally have a voice
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041122&s=sifry

Internet post-election rumors missing one little thing: evidence
"Evil Internet" spreads rumors that last week's presidential election was rigged and stolen
http://stpetetimes.com/2004/11/11/Columns/...t_electio.shtml

Republican John C. Dvorak and PC Magazine advocate the banning of the Internet ?

Divided country? It's all the internet's fault
http://lawnorder.blogspot.com/2004/11/dail...ry-its-all.html

CBS News: Blogging As Typing, Not Journalism
.. what I saw in the blogosphere on Nov. 2 was more reminiscent of that school paper or a 'Breaker, breaker 19' gabfest on CB than anything approaching journalism."

Kerry was "in striking distance" in Florida and Ohio, said the Drudge Report. The popular and smutty Wonkette site claimed it had "information" from "little birdies" showing Kerry up 52-47 in Ohio and 50-49 in Florida... This is the kind of stuff we used to run in my aforementioned school paper, when the speculation surrounded who was going steady. The difference is that the bloggers [who] aspire to being a force in our public life .. don't care about the veracity of the stories they are spreading, they do not understand when there is a live hand grenade on their keyboard.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/08/...ain654285.shtml

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post Nov 13 2004, 10:58 AM
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I watched it and I was not impressed!

Yes, it's great that Matthews decided to report-

But I felt that the gist of the message was not in our favor -
comments like - how can you believe anything reported in the 'blogisphere'
Matthews comment about how it is now 10 days after the election...
That Molinari (whatever her name was) was denying that we had any credibility
And Trippi, the spokesperson for the bloggers, may be a brilliant man, but a good debator he is not!

Time will prove what a strong voice we have.. but right now we are being questioned. And Matthews really didn't help our cause.


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post Nov 13 2004, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(BlueDog @ Nov 12 2004, 08:15 PM)
Dear Mr. Matthews:

I am one of millions of viewers who appreciated your courage and candour in covering the greatest story in American politics in recent years.  Although the evidence for fraud in this election is not yet conclusive, I am persuaded that a prima facia case already exists for significant irregularities and perhaps massive electronic tampering amounting to the greatest scandal in our history.  Even if the odds of this are only one in ten or one in a hundred, it is important our fourth estate not be distracted from its moral obligation to seek out the truth. Free and fair elections should not be the outcome of our political process; they should be the prerequisite to it.  Any doubt that our elections have been both free and fair should be investigated until it is disproven or until the means and the perpetrators of the fraud are exposed and brought to justice.  Please continue your coverage of this important question.

Sincerely,
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PRECISELY! BlueDog---YOU'RE HIRED!


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post Nov 13 2004, 12:06 PM
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Does anyone has a link to a transcript ?


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post Nov 13 2004, 12:15 PM
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Here's the one from this morning:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6476530/

but I can't find a transcript for Hardball or
Countdown, yet.


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post Nov 13 2004, 12:36 PM
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I'm glad others are as mad as I am for Chris Matthews coverage. He seems like he wants to attack us rather than defend us. I wrote him too. I hope none of this stops! It is like if we quit democracy dies and they get their way! HELP IS ON THE WAY! We have to get across that this was no a fair election. If Kerry doesn't uncondede I don't know what will happen.


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post Nov 13 2004, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(Buster0001 @ Nov 13 2004, 12:15 PM)
Here's the one from this morning:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6476530/

but I can't find a transcript for Hardball or
Countdown, yet.
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Not up yet (none / 0)

But it will be here
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/


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post Nov 14 2004, 02:17 AM
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Caltech MIT's report a complete fabrication: Study done by "students" who used the frauded CNN exit polls as the basis of the study. Could just as easily be hackers themselves....

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/pdfs/VotingMachines3.pdf

(I wonder why the so called "caltech / MIT" report has NO AUTHOR associated with it)

Is this the one the Bushie showed in Hardball ?

I wonder HOW Chris Mathews missed this little detail: An academic paper with no author..


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post Nov 14 2004, 02:24 AM
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Chris was definitely misinformed but he's still reporting it. Good news that its getting covered as this gets even uglier....

:o :o :o
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post Nov 14 2004, 02:59 AM
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QUOTE(Buster0001 @ Nov 12 2004, 06:22 PM)
See, I was thinking the other night about the internet.  How did
anyone ever find out about Watergate?  This is the best way
to spread news on earth.
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You mean "the cover up" because that is what brought Nixon down and forced him to resign. Didn't two reporters get a tip from a man named Deep Throat? lol!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Nov 14 2004, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE(kindergarten teacher @ Nov 14 2004, 02:59 AM)
You mean "the cover up" because that is what brought Nixon down and forced him to resign.  Didn't two reporters get a tip from a man named Deep Throat?  lol!!!!!!!!!!!
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Replace deepthrought with Mr. X and Mrs. Kelleher......
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post Nov 14 2004, 03:24 AM
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My email to Matthews
(hope is doesn't mind a little sarcasm, but I've been really really p'od at him for the last few months....) And I had to get that part in about the blogisphere because his was dissing it last nite...



Before you have some whiney repub on your show quoting the report from Cal Tech, about voter fraud,
you may want to do some investigating into Cal Tech. Oops - too late....
Well maybe while 'monday nite quarterbacking' you might find some interesting reading there. Kinda puts what she said (Molinari?) in a different light....

That's what's so fascinating about the blogisphere.... we learn more, and sooner than the media.... we have so many more reporters working on our story! And all of the channels are working together on the same story....


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