Nov 11 2004, 08:46 PM
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The Evangelicals have declared war on you!
Will you lie down and let them kill you? GREENVILLE, S.C. (AP) - Bob Jones III, president of the fundamentalist college that bears his name, has told President Bush he should use his electoral mandate to appoint conservative judges and approve legislation "defined by biblical norm." "In your re-election, God has graciously granted America _ though she doesn't deserve it _ a reprieve from the agenda of paganism," Jones wrote Bush in a congratulatory letter posted on the university's Web site. "You have been given a mandate. ... Put your agenda on the front burner and let it boil. You owe the liberals nothing. They despise you because they despise your Christ," said the letter, dated Nov. 3. A White House spokesman said he didn't know whether the president had seen the letter. Jonathan Pait, a spokesman for the university, said the letter was placed on the school's Web site because Jones had read it to students in chapel and many told their parents about it. He said Thursday that Jones had not received a response from the White House. Pait said it would be a misreading of the letter to think that "everyone who voted for the Democrats is a pagan" or that "if you voted for John Kerry you are a despiser of Christ." "For example, there are those who voted for John Kerry because they opposed the war in Iraq," Pait said. "Dr. Jones did not intend to paint everyone with that broad a brush." Jones wrote that Bush will "have the opportunity to appoint many conservative judges and exercise forceful leadership with the Congress in passing legislation that is defined by biblical norm regarding the family, sexuality, sanctity of life, religious freedom, freedom of speech and limited government." In February 2000, Bush spoke at Bob Jones University when he was running for his first term in the White House. At the time, the school banned interracial dating and included anti-Roman Catholic material on its Web site. The private Christian college has since dropped the dating ban but still maintains on its Internet site material questioning Catholicism. |
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Nov 11 2004, 08:54 PM
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Take it easy. I don't think Bob Jones III is an Evangelical anyway as you seemed to be suggesting. Evangelicals are "born agains". They're like a cult almost. I don't think Bob Jones III was ever "reborn".
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Nov 11 2004, 09:06 PM
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Bob Jones University (BJU) is the largest private liberal arts university in South Carolina. It is a Christian university in Greenville, South Carolina, and was founded in 1927 by Bob Jones, Sr., an evangelist and revival-preacher.
The current president of the university is Bob Jones III, grandson of the founder. It sits on a 225 acre (0.9 km²) campus, has a staff of 1,800 and a student body of 4,200, and offers degrees in 126 majors, plus additional schools from kindergarten through 12th grade. It should be noted that the univeristy does not have accreditation. Its mission statement is "Within the cultural and academic soil of liberal arts education, Bob Jones University exists to grow Christlike character that is Scripturally disciplined; others-serving; God-loving; Christ-proclaiming; and focused above." http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Bob_Jones_University -------------------- "The elephant has a thick skin, a head full of ivory, and as everyone who has seen a circus parade knows, proceeds best by grasping the tail of its predecessor." - Adlai Stevenson
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Nov 11 2004, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(cmerrill @ Nov 11 2004, 10:54 PM) Take it easy. I don't think Bob Jones III is an Evangelical anyway as you seemed to be suggesting. Evangelicals are "born agains". They're like a cult almost. I don't think Bob Jones III was ever "reborn". Too bad he was born period. -------------------- "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt". Shakespeare
"Those conspiracies that are too incredible to be believed, are by the same right, those which most often succeed". Marshall McLuhan |
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Nov 11 2004, 09:12 PM
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Nov 11 2004, 09:32 PM
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omg.....what a bunch of bull.....here we have a president who is a drunk, a former coke user, he flips people the bird, the uses foul language...he was a fornicating party boy in college...did nothing with his life until his daddy became president, failed at every business venture he tried, committed securities fraud, bilked thousands of investors out of their hard earned money so he could go play oilman in west texas like his daddy.....and now, because he claims God speaks to him.....these moronic fundy christians think he is some kind of prophet sent by God........GIVE me a BREAK. Excuse me Reverend Fascist, but I am a Christian and I am a proud Democrat.
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Nov 12 2004, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(bh2008 @ Nov 11 2004, 09:32 PM) omg.....what a bunch of bull.....here we have a president who is a drunk, a former coke user, he flips people the bird, the uses foul language...he was a fornicating party boy in college...did nothing with his life until his daddy became president, failed at every business venture he tried, committed securities fraud, bilked thousands of investors out of their hard earned money so he could go play oilman in west texas like his daddy.....and now, because he claims God speaks to him.....these moronic fundy christians think he is some kind of prophet sent by God........GIVE me a BREAK. Excuse me Reverend Fascist, but I am a Christian and I am a proud Democrat. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!! |
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Nov 12 2004, 01:19 AM
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And I am an agnostic and proud to be an American.
Kiss my grits BJ III. -------------------- No Paper Trail = No Democracy
IT'S TIME TO GO TO WORK!!!! |
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Nov 12 2004, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(menden @ Nov 12 2004, 12:16 AM) AMEN. SO - HOW DO WE GET THIS VERY FACTUAL INFORMATION INTO A CONTEXT THAT CERTAIN CHRISTIANS MIGHT JUST UNDERSTAND AND CALL A DUCK A DUCK FOR A CHANGE INSTEAD OF AN EAGLE..... I truthfully believe Christianity breeds co-dependency ON addicts and sex. They jest can't get 'nuff talkin' bout those sinners.....like the guy who ran by ranting about the rampant lesbianism "Happenin' at this MOMENT in the girls room at the jr high" somewhere in Kansas....HYPOCRITES. -------------------- Abramoff's campaign manager was a radical right-winger named Grover Norquist, and the two of them recruited a zealous younger activist to carry out their orders, Ralph Reed. Reed required College Republicans to recite a speech from the movie "Patton," replacing the word "Nazis" with "Democrats": "The Democrats are the enemy. Wade into them. Spill their blood! Shoot them in the belly!"
.....Norquist was the first to point out the political potential of evangelical churches to Reed, imagining that they could be turned into Republican clubhouses. During the week of George H.W. Bush's inauguration, Reed encountered Pat Robertson, the right-wing televangelist, who recruited him on the spot to run the Christian Coalition. "I want to be invisible," Reed explained. "I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don't know it's over until you're in a body bag. You don't know until election night." ~Sidney Blumenthal That’s probably the most pressing race problem in the United States today -- a de facto affirmative-action program for mediocre middle- and upper-class white men that places a lot of undeserving people in positions of power, where their delusions of grandeur can have profound implications for others.~ROBERT JENSEN We may stand witness to a definitive American moment of democracy. The son of a New York doorman probably has in his hands, in many ways, the fate of the republic. Because far too many of us know and are aware of the crimes committed by our government in our name, we are unlikely to settle for a handful of minor indictments of bureaucrats. The last thing most of us believe in is the rule of law. We do not trust our government or the people we have elected but our constitution is still very much alive and we choose to believe that destiny has placed Patrick Fitzgerald at this time and this place in our history to save us from the people we elected. If the law cannot get to the truth of what has happened to the American people under the Bush administration, then we all may begin to hear the early death rattles of history’s greatest democracy.~James Moore "Take whatever idiot they have at the top of whatever agency and give me a better idiot," Broussard said. "Give me a caring idiot. Give me a sensitive idiot. Just don't give me the same idiot."~Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish near New Orleans "You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in them...."~Aaron Brown "What's called for now I believe, is a sort of Thomas Paine Revolutionary movement converged with the Civil Rights and Civil Liberties movements. It's certainly possible, and it is desperately needed..."~SH "My country right or wrong" is like saying, "My mother drunk or sober." ~ G. K. Chesterton "It is a lesson never learned: Matters of state and the heart that start with a lie rarely end well."~Maureen Dowd " ...if by a liberal they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties.. if that is what they mean by a "liberal" then I am proud to be a liberal. " ~John F. Kennedyc “Pollution is nothing but the resources we are not harvesting. We allow them to disperse because we've been ignorant of their value.”~R. Buckminster Fuller1895-1983"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." -- Thomas Jefferson "TurdBlossom": The affectionate nickname given by the POTUS to the most powerful political hack in the world today-KARL ROVE. |
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