http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/15/politics...ogin&oref=login

December 15, 2004
Lawmaker Seeks Inquiry Into Ohio Vote
By TOM ZELLER Jr.

The ranking Democratic member of the House Judiciary Committee, Representative John Conyers Jr. of Michigan, plans to ask the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a county prosecutor in Ohio today to explore "inappropriate and likely illegal election tampering" in at least one and perhaps several Ohio counties.

The request for an investigation, made in a letter that was also provided to The New York Times, includes accounts from at least two county employees, but is based largely on a sworn affidavit provided by the Hocking County deputy director of elections, Sherole Eaton.

Among other things, Ms. Eaton says in her affidavit that a representative of Triad Governmental Systems, the Ohio firm that created and maintains the vote-counting software in dozens of Ohio counties, made several adjustments to the Hocking County tabulator last Friday, in advance of the state's recount, which is taking place this week.

Ohio recount rules require that only 3 percent of a county's votes be tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3 percent sample. After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.

Ms. Eaton contends that the Triad employee asked which precinct Hocking County planned to count as its representative 3 percent, and, upon being told, made further adjustments to the machine.

County officials decided to use a different precinct when the recount was done yesterday. No discrepancies were found.

"This is pretty outrageous," Mr. Conyers said. "We want to pursue it as vigorously as we can."

But Brett Rapp, the president of Triad, said that although it would be unusual for an employee to ask about a specific precinct, preparing the machines for a recount was standard procedure and was done in all 41 counties where Triad handles vote counts. He added that he welcomed any investigation.

"I've been doing this since 1985, and in all my experience this is the first time that we have had any complaints whatsoever," Mr. Rapp said.

:D

i like the way william pitt put it much better :-)

WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-14-04 11:12 PM
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HEADS THE F*** UP: TRIAD SCANDAL IN THE NEW YORK TIMES


I will have affadavits etc. on this matter out shortly.

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Lawmaker Seeks Inquiry Into Ohio Vote
By TOM ZELLER Jr.

Published: December 15, 2004

The ranking Democratic member of the House Judiciary Committee, Representative John Conyers Jr. of Michigan, plans to ask the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a county prosecutor in Ohio today to explore "inappropriate and likely illegal election tampering" in at least one and perhaps several Ohio counties.

The request for an investigation, made in a letter that was also provided to The New York Times, includes accounts from at least two county employees, but is based largely on a sworn affidavit provided by the Hocking County deputy director of elections, Sherole Eaton.

Among other things, Ms. Eaton says in her affidavit that a representative of Triad Governmental Systems, the Ohio firm that created and maintains the vote-counting software in dozens of Ohio counties, made several adjustments to the Hocking County tabulator last Friday, in advance of the state's recount, which is taking place this week.

Ohio recount rules require that only 3 percent of a county's votes be tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3 percent sample. After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.

Ms. Eaton contends that the Triad employee asked which precinct Hocking County planned to count as its representative 3 percent, and, upon being told, made further adjustments to the machine.

County officials decided to use a different precinct when the recount was done yesterday. No discrepancies were found.

"This is pretty outrageous," Mr. Conyers said. "We want to pursue it as vigorously as we can."

...more...

I like it!

In what section of the Times was this?

Access online from both National headlines and Washington

The Washington section.

Jinx! 12345678910....

Here's a link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/15/politics...html?oref=login

I think you have to register to read it.
What's a cookie or two?

Washington Post picks up too! PAGE A01

Ohio Offers Lessons for 2008 (Registration requered)

Acute foul-ups contributed to thousands of "lost" votes during Nov. elections.
– Michael Powell and Peter Slevin
http://www.washingtonpost.com/

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Without registration:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A...anguage=printer

Several Factors Contributed to 'Lost' Voters in Ohio

By Michael Powell and Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, December 15, 2004; Page A01

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004
Washington Post Joins the Dissident Set!
And Drudge!
And Fox News!
Pinch me! Am I dreamin'?!

As I hit the "publish button" on the previous piece about The New York Times filing a serious report about election recount problems in Ohio, I was notified that tomorrow's Washinton Post features a full report on scads of reported problems in Ohio! (Just six weeks late, and a day after the Electoral College cast it votes, but better late than never I guess!) Here's the MSNBC reprint for those not registered with WaPo.

To make matters even more incredible, the story is linked on Drudge! What the...?
But wait, that's not all! I heard that Cliff Arnebeck, the attorney who filed a brief with the Ohio Supreme Court to set aside the states election results due to irregularities and fraud, was on -- get this -- Hannity & Colmes tonight! (Hi, Alan! Long time no email!)

What the hell is this world coming to?!...Its senses?!
- Blogged by BradF on 12/14/2004 11:34:15 PM

Well, that's the first time I've heard of ANY I.T place that's never had
a complaint!!!

This is just making me more suspicious....FOX News? Seriously? What's in it for them? They don't care about the truth....

Currently too jaded to get excited yet...but we will see.

Watching and Waiting! <_<

I guess the freepers couldn't stand it so Scarborough had
to get his two cents in:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6667506/#041215a

They must be getting scared...their trying to discredit. Heh..like they say...there's no such a thing as "bad publicity". And why so much blather dedicated to Florida, Joe...when Ohio is clearly the bigger issue?

Yeah, believe it or not, there have been times I thought
Joe was on our side. Just a small couple of moments, though.
Maybe he wants to overshadow the Rummy coverage.
I'm glad to see that they won't let the RUmmy subject die.
It show the true colors of both Bush and Rummy.

asking the FBI to look into "inappropriate and likely illegal election tampering"in ohio.
like asking the FOX to watch the hen house, how for do you think this will go bush has already scrubed the cia, will the FBI be next

Vote fraud hits the MSM yesterday, and suddenly a new Bin Laden tape is all over the news this morning. Coincidence? I think not. :o

Bin Laden tape is actually a rove plant practically blasted out the backdoor by the insane culprits, the Opus Dei fundamentalists...They have been falling back on this tactic for a while, and likely have more arsenal they want to shoot out now when its time to start calling out names.

''Real or not, nothing will distract me from the election fraud issue. Bush has to go. Some Republican are all over the news defending Rumsfeld. No defense. Give him the boot, which is what he deserves for sending our troop into battle ill-equipped and ignoring the problem for nearly two years.

All the Bushies, the crooks and liars, must go.