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rla
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 7 2009, 06:17 AM) *
Liberals already do a real good job themselves of discrediting the term, rla ...

They always have real good ideas, they say, that will have somebody have to take care of their brother-in-law who drinks too much ...

Or some family member of theirs who needs and wants things, but won't work for them ....

And they NEVER stop to consider the consequencs of their actions ....

"OH, LA, JUST DO IT AND SOMEBODY ELSE CAN WORRY ABOUT IT LATER!"

That is Nancy Pelosi right there, in a nutshell ....

And Nancy Pelosi spells LIBERAL ...

And so ...


In my considered opinion, Livyjr, that's BS...If one was restricted to one political category name for Nancy Pelosi, it would have to be NeoLiberal. So far as Foreign Policy is concerned, she is closer to Neocon...
Livyjr
You are a linguist and a semanticist, rla, so you see things at an advanced level ...

I am talking in the vernacular ...

People speaking in the vernacular do not make such fine distinctions as you are able to do here, rla ....

To them, Nancy Pelosi is the very emboduiment of what a liberal is - giddy and air-headed ....

I think in some senses you are hoist by your own petard here, rla ....

You want liberal to mean something different from what it does mean in the minds of the common people after hearing Rush Limbo trash liberals since the 1980's up here where I am ....

And for at least twenty years, the liberals allowed Rush Limbo to trash them ....

They created for him a stereotype that he was then able to exploit so well for all those years, to where liberal is now a term of contempt ...

You are trying desperately to rehabilitate the word, rla ....

I think you just find a new one, like egalitarianism, and start anew, to be truthful ....

It is like the word hero and the word democracy ....

They have become meaningless terms in today's vernacular ....

And they are also treated with contempt ....

And so ...
rla
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 7 2009, 11:33 AM) *
You are a linguist and a semanticist, rla, so you see things at an advanced level ...

I am talking in the vernacular ...

People speaking in the vernacular do not make such fine distinctions as you are able to do here, rla ....

To them, Nancy Pelosi is the very emboduiment of what a liberal is - giddy and air-headed ....

I think in some senses you are hoist by your own petard here, rla ....

You want liberal to mean something different from what it does mean in the minds of the common people after hearing Rush Limbo trash liberals since the 1980's up here where I am ....

And for at least twenty years, the liberals allowed Rush Limbo to trash them ....

They created for him a stereotype that he was then able to exploit so well for all those years, to where liberal is now a term of contempt ...

You are trying desperately to rehabilitate the word, rla ....

I think you just find a new one, like egalitarianism, and start anew, to be truthful ....

It is like the word hero and the word democracy ....

They have become meaningless terms in today's vernacular ....

And they are also treated with contempt ....

And so ...


Language was here before anyone in this human cohort group or any of their great great great
grandadies and language will still be here when we are all gone...
Livyjr
All well and good, rla, and that may in fact be so ...

But as you yourself have said in here many times, with no challenge from me - the meaning of words changes over time ...

And so it is with the word "liberal" ....

"Liberal" is no longer a word in America, rla, it has become a caricature ...

Being older, the word has a meaning for you that does not exist any longer ....

You would like the word to command some respect in political discourse, and it doesn't ....

To the contrary it conjures up images of these small, spikey-haired blonde women in huge Cadillac SUV's who spend their days at Starbuck's, being seen, and drinking lattes ...

Or these pencil-neck dudes wearing berets with a goatee who are quite afraid of guns ....

And think the world would be a better place if people would just learn to give each other a real nice hug ....

And when they see a dog, they emit this long, drawn-out "OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH" .....

And so ...
rla
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 7 2009, 01:56 PM) *
All well and good, rla, and that may in fact be so ...

But as you yourself have said in here many times, with no challenge from me - the meaning of words changes over time ...

And so it is with the word "liberal" ....

"Liberal" is no longer a word in America, rla, it has become a caricature ...

Being older, the word has a meaning for you that does not exist any longer ....

You would like the word to command some respect in political discourse, and it doesn't ....

To the contrary it conjures up images of these small, spikey-haired blonde women in huge Cadillac SUV's who spend their days at Starbuck's, being seen, and drinking lattes ...

Or these pencil-neck dudes wearing berets with a goatee who are quite afraid of guns ....

And think the world would be a better place if people would just learn to give each other a real nice hug ....

And when they see a dog, they emit this long, drawn-out "OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH" .....

And so ...


Yes it is true that the meaning of words change from time to time and from place to place and in
accordance with the level of understanding of the sender and the receiver...

I haven't given up on the utility of the concept, "Liberal" as I continue to follow the trends of certain
sub-groups in the social system to assign it negative valence or positive valence...
Livyjr
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 7 2009, 01:29 PM) *
I haven't given up on the utility of the concept, "Liberal" as I continue to follow the trends of certain sub-groups in the social system to assign it negative valence or positive valence...

And I don't at all condemn you for that exercise, rla, although at times I think it is an exercise in futility ....

But what the hey ....

People would likely tell you that that is all I exercise in ....

And so ...

Livyjr
I think that in 2004, rla, John Kerry did great disservice to the word liberal when he failed to come out and challenge the SCUMBOAT crowd ....

He equated the word liberal with the word coward ....

And so ...
rla
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 7 2009, 02:39 PM) *
I think that in 2004, rla, John Kerry did great disservice to the word liberal when he failed to come out and challenge the SCUMBOAT crowd ....

He equated the word liberal with the word coward ....

And so ...


John Kerry did the word, "Liberal" a disservice on several fronts and continues to do so--just not as loudly...
Livyjr
Which brings us to today, rla ...

And the uphill climb that you face to bring the word back to any semblance of credibility ....

The trouble is that people like John Kerry then become the caricatures or visual images that the word evokes ....

And there you then are, rla ....

Dead in the water, because you can't get those images out of the minds of those who hear your words, and then scoff when you use the word liberal ...

And so ...
Livyjr
It is like some kind of corrollary to Pavlov's dogs ....

They would begin to shake and urinate uncontrollably when they saw some food put out for them, waiting for the shock to come ,,,,

While people have become conditioned to laugh uproariously and to scoff when they hear the word liberal ....

So you have to find a way to break that conditioning, rla ....

And there, I wish you luck ....

And so ....
Livyjr
That is why I think you need a new word, rla ...
rla
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 7 2009, 03:16 PM) *
That is why I think you need a new word, rla ...


I've been seraching diligently for a number of years. We went through a similar conversation regarding the concept, "Wellness." I still haven't found a better one...

Where Liberal means liberated from traditional sources of authority and committed to the common good, who wouldn't want to be a liberal in a humanitarian constitutional democratic republic with an open market economy?...a psychopath or a sociopath is all I can think of...
Livyjr
And I think that you are talking about a fair percentage of the American population with your latter statement, rla ...

Along with Rush Limbo ....

And so ...
rla
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 7 2009, 04:10 PM) *
And I think that you are talking about a fair percentage of the American population with your latter statement, rla ...

Along with Rush Limbo ....

And so ...


Yes, I figure about 20% are beyond our best reach...
Indianhead
...a post from a Motley Fools Financial Blog:

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost.aspx?b...130057764754273

Prepare For Anger in 9.09

September 05, 2009 – Comments (6)

Alstry warned you if we continued with our Zombulation Policies, our nation would eventually shut down. Now our nation is shutting down with practically every city, county, and state reducing workers and cutting pay. Our auto companies are bankrupt and closing thouands of dealers. Many of our banks insolvent and closing. Our Airlines and Hotels are in great distress. Builders are bankrupt and independent mortgage companies are not much more than a recent memory.

America simply can't service $40 Trillion dollars of SWAP induced debt without eventually Zombulating the entire nation as more and more debt defaults.

I warned you a few months ago a new trend in America would be Anger. With 16.8% reported unemployment, you know that frustration levels are high. With recent government cuts and much more down the road, the frustration is only going to grow as the jobless rate gets to unprecedented levels.. Many will not be able to service their debt causing even more personal distress and in the financial markets.

We are being trained to get angry. People are visibly carrying guns in public. Others are screaming at their elected officials at town hall meetings. Some are questioning the right of our President to be President.....and now, outrage is being sparked simply because he wants to give a speech about the importance of education to our children?

From an analytical perspective, it is not important why people get angry, what is relevant is that anger is rising.....and when it rises among the masses.....the outcome can be very unsettling.
Never in our nation's history have we or will we face the financial distress being engineered by Benny Bin Laden and his banker buddies. You simply cannot cut off credit to a massively overleveraged swap infected economy and expect anything but disaster to result......and by only bailing out select bankers and bonusing them with billions of dollars.....you emasculating principles of liberty and justice that have never been crossed in our nations history.

There is simply no moral or legal justification for taxpayers bailing out insolvent bankers yet those same bankers tightening credit and raising interest on the taxpayers forcing citizens into insolvency. It offends every fundemental principle of fairness.

No terrorist group in the world could have dreamed about inflecting such massive economic, social, and political upheaval in our country without expecting massive retaliation by the entire nation. Instead, we act with pitiful indifference as anger is directed to health care reform and whether our President should give a speech to our children about education.

Presently, about 50% of our nation's GDP is simply government consumption. An amount of spend we can no longer afford as our GDP evaporates. If we took government consumption back to relative Great Depression levels, we would have to cut government spending by 80% and our economy would likely contract by at least 40%.

With the Wall Street bankers cutting off credit to the private economy, most of our economy has contracted severely. Conditions are getting worse as interest rates continue to increase and credit tightens....conditions will get MUCH worse..... and as government tax receipts continue to evaporate and INCREASES cutting going forward....the falling domino effect is going to converge upon every cornor of our nation.

This is all very foreseeable.

Without restructuring the massive amount of outstanding debt suffocating our economy....in a very short period of time we will destroy what took our forefathers generations to establish.


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BWTF do I know...
graham4anything
nothing
Livyjr
graham, you're a hoot as always ...

That's why God loves ya, baby ....

You make the dude laugh, graham ....

Otherwise, he would be flooding the earth with his tears ....

And where would people be who can't swim, graham?

Did you ever think of that?

And so ...
rla
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 8 2009, 04:41 AM) *
graham, you're a hoot as always ...

That's why God loves ya, baby ....

You make the dude laugh, graham ....

Otherwise, he would be flooding the earth with his tears ....

And where would people be who can't swim, graham?

Did you ever think of that?

And so ...


We've already had the flood...what is next?
Indianhead
Here's a hint...

from Slate today:


Is Buffett Worried About An Upcoming Stock Plunge?

Warren Buffett lost about $25 billion during the financial crisis, but he still managed to make the most out of the situation by attempting to profit from the downturn. His picks could reap huge rewards, but right now, Berkshire Hathaway appears to be taking a more cautious approach, buying fewer stocks than it is selling, suggesting that Buffett is getting worried. At the same time, "Buffettologists" say that as his inevitable retirement approaches Buffett is also thinking about his legacy and is more concerned about making investments that will give out profits in the long-term.


Read original story story in The New York Times | Tuesday, 8 Sep 2009
rla
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Sep 8 2009, 10:39 AM) *
Here's a hint...

from Slate today:


Is Buffett Worried About An Upcoming Stock Plunge?

Warren Buffett lost about $25 billion during the financial crisis, but he still managed to make the most out of the situation by attempting to profit from the downturn. His picks could reap huge rewards, but right now, Berkshire Hathaway appears to be taking a more cautious approach, buying fewer stocks than it is selling, suggesting that Buffett is getting worried. At the same time, "Buffettologists" say that as his inevitable retirement approaches Buffett is also thinking about his legacy and is more concerned about making investments that will give out profits in the long-term.


Read original story story in The New York Times | Tuesday, 8 Sep 2009


Is he buying land in S. America yet?
Indianhead
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 8 2009, 10:57 AM) *
Is he buying land in S. America yet?


They didn't say, but he can afford to.

The DJIA was up 56 points today...so somebody is buying.
(But, gold closed at $1,000 even, so they are hedging too.)
Livyjr
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 8 2009, 08:56 AM) *
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 8 2009, 04:41 AM) *

graham, you're a hoot as always ...

That's why God loves ya, baby ....

You make the dude laugh, graham ....

Otherwise, he would be flooding the earth with his tears ....

And where would people be who can't swim, graham?

Did you ever think of that?

And so ...

We've already had the flood...what is next?


graham is kind of like Sheherezade here ....

As long as graham keeps the dude laughing ....

Or guffawing ....

He likes it that graham can make him guffaw ....

That is a talent, he says ...

I think that we are safe down here ....

And so ....
Livyjr
MarketWatch First Take

Sep 8, 2009, 4:26 p.m. EST

"Debt falls at fastest pace since D-Day - Commentary: Paradox of thrift is killing the economy"

By MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Americans, busy paying off bills and saving money, now hold only about 450 times more debt than they did when the GIs stormed the beaches at Normandy.

U.S. consumers took their biggest step yet toward repairing their finances in July, cutting their outstanding debt by a record $21.5 billion, the Federal Reserve reported Tuesday.


Debt fell at a 10.3% annual rate in July, bringing total outstanding consumer debt (excluding mortgages and home-equity loans) to $2.47 trillion, 4.2% lower than a year earlier.

It was the biggest year-over-year decline in consumer credit since June 1944, when total debt totaled just $5.5 billion.

At first, the greater availability of credit helped the generation that survived the Depression to buy the good life: a house in the suburbs, a new car every few years and a washing machine.

But as credit became easier to obtain, consumers borrowed to buy stuff they would have walked right past if they'd had to plunk down cash.

How crazy is it to pay 30% interest on the daily skim-milk latte?


Cheap and available credit helped consumers keep spending even as their incomes stagnated.

But now, consumers and bankers are saying, enough is enough.

Consumers are putting the charge cards away, and bankers are reining in credit lines.

Individually, most consumers are doing the right thing by paying down their credit balances.

But collectively, their resistance to taking on new debt assures that consumer spending will remain very tepid and will hold back an economic recovery, dooming millions to continued joblessness.

It's the paradox of thrift, and it's killing us.

If consumers can't spend, and businesses won't, the only source of demand in the economy will be the government.

Stimulating the economy by lowering interest rates hasn't worked.

Stimulating the economy by giving people money to pay off bills hasn't worked.


The stimulus from direct government spending can't come soon enough.

--Rex Nutting, Washington bureau chief

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/debt-fall...-day-2009-09-08
Livyjr
FOR AMERICA TO HAVE AN ECONOMY, ITS PEOPLE MUST BEGGER THEMSELVES AS ECONOMIC SLAVES ....

IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BEGGER THEMSELVES, AMERICA IS NOT GOING TO HAVE AN ECONOMY ...

And so ...

MARKETWATCH Economic Report


Sep 8, 2009, 4:07 p.m. EST

"Consumer credit down record amount in July - Recent frugality could strangle the recovery, analysts say"

By Greg Robb, MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -U.S. consumers sharply reduced their debt in July, posing another threat to the nascent recovery, the Federal Reserve reported Tuesday.

Total seasonally adjusted consumer debt fell $21.55 billion, or at a 10.4% annual rate, in July to $2.47 trillion.

The drop in credit in July is re-writing the record books.

This is the sixth straight monthly drop in consumer credit -- the longest consecutive string of declines in credit since the second half of 1991.


Consumers have retrenched since the financial crisis hit in full force last September.

Credit has fallen in every month except January.

In percentage terms, the drop in credit is the biggest since June 1975.

And on a year-on-year basis, credit is down 4.3%, the biggest drop since June 1944.


The retrenchment was much more than expected.

Economists surveyed by MarketWatch expected consumer credit to decline by $4.3 billion.

There were also sharp downward revisions to June data.

Economists said shrinking credit might strangle the recovery.

"There is no real way to put a positive spin on these data."

"Credit is still shrinking and that is going to have an impact on consumption," wrote Charmaine Buskas, senior economics strategist at TD Securities, in a note to clients.


"Without the smooth functioning of credit markets, the recovery may stall," Buskas said.

Josh Shapiro, chief U.S. economist at MFR Inc., said he's one of the most pessimistic economists regarding the outlook because consumers are drowning in debt.

Fed data has shown that the value of both household net assets and net worth has plunged by about $12 trillion from the peak in mid-2007, Shapiro said, and households are struggling to get their balance sheets in order.

The retrenchment of credit "is still in its early days," Shapiro said.

"Consumers are doing their best but it took a long time to build up the debt and it is going to take a long time to work it off," he said.

Details

In the subcategories, credit-card debt fell $6.11 billion, or 8.5%, in July to $905.58 billion.

This is the record 11th straight monthly drop in credit card debt.

Non-revolving credit, such as auto loans, personal loans and student loans fell a record $15.44 billion or 11.7% to $1.57 trillion.

Greg Robb is a senior reporter for MarketWatch in Washington.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/consumers...july-2009-09-08
rla
What's needed is a re-evaluation of what work means. Doing work is not the same thing as having a job...USAians
have tended to lose the meaning of and any appreciation of work. We are allowing our Organism to become disassociated from the material world...
Livyjr
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 8 2009, 04:19 PM) *
What's needed is a re-evaluation of what work means.

I do work every day, rla, in the sense that you are talking about ....


rla
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 8 2009, 05:23 PM) *
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 8 2009, 04:19 PM) *
What's needed is a re-evaluation of what work means.

I do work every day, rla, in the sense that you are talking about ....


I planted some mustard greens yesterday...that's a cross between spinach and collards, I think...
Indianhead
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 8 2009, 05:19 PM) *
What's needed is a re-evaluation of what work means. Doing work is not the same thing as having a job...USAians
have tended to lose the meaning of and any appreciation of work. We are allowing our Organism to become disassociated from the material world...


10-4

QUOTE(rla @ Sep 9 2009, 07:32 AM) *
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 8 2009, 05:23 PM) *
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 8 2009, 04:19 PM) *
What's needed is a re-evaluation of what work means.

I do work every day, rla, in the sense that you are talking about ....


I planted some mustard greens yesterday...that's a cross between spinach and collards, I think...


They have more snap than either...mustard seeds ya know...love 'em.
If they come in, you can boil them down tender and freezer bag 'em. If they work
well this year...I've got a decent cassarole recipe with 'em...cheeses, pork, eggs, bread crumbs...etc.
We had some heavy rains in the past three days and I may have lost 1/3 to 1/2 my baby mustards
I put in...but that's why you plant more than you need and have a tray of back ups to replant a few.
I'm hoping for okra, limas, mustards and yellow squash...we'll see.


rla
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Sep 9 2009, 07:44 AM) *
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 8 2009, 05:19 PM) *
What's needed is a re-evaluation of what work means. Doing work is not the same thing as having a job...USAians
have tended to lose the meaning of and any appreciation of work. We are allowing our Organism to become disassociated from the material world...


10-4

QUOTE(rla @ Sep 9 2009, 07:32 AM) *
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 8 2009, 05:23 PM) *
QUOTE(rla @ Sep 8 2009, 04:19 PM) *
What's needed is a re-evaluation of what work means.

I do work every day, rla, in the sense that you are talking about ....


I planted some mustard greens yesterday...that's a cross between spinach and collards, I think...


They have more snap than either...mustard seeds ya know...love 'em.
If they come in, you can boil them down tender and freezer bag 'em. If they work
well this year...I've got a decent cassarole recipe with 'em...cheeses, pork, eggs, bread crumbs...etc.
We had some heavy rains in the past three days and I may have lost 1/3 to 1/2 my baby mustards
I put in...but that's why you plant more than you need and have a tray of back ups to replant a few.
I'm hoping for okra, limas, mustards and yellow squash...we'll see.




My wife is out of town for a couple of days attending the regional (5-state) Cultural Counsel of the grocery chain she works for. The topic is how to respond to the big increase in food stamps and how to start now getting ready
to handle the big cut back when this temporary increase ends...I was just wondering how many farmers' markets
are set up to handle food stamps. One would hope that this is the kind of structural changes that would be instigated
with the stimulus package but I doubt if it is happening...
graham4anything
indianhead-so what work do you do except whine about people being lazy?

kettle
pot
kettle
pot
kettle
pot
rla

I do work every day, rla, in the sense that you are talking about ....
[/quote]

I planted some mustard greens yesterday...that's a cross between spinach and collards, I think...
[/quote]

They have more snap than either...mustard seeds ya know...love 'em.
If they come in, you can boil them down tender and freezer bag 'em. If they work
well this year...I've got a decent cassarole recipe with 'em...cheeses, pork, eggs, bread crumbs...etc.
We had some heavy rains in the past three days and I may have lost 1/3 to 1/2 my baby mustards
I put in...but that's why you plant more than you need and have a tray of back ups to replant a few.
I'm hoping for okra, limas, mustards and yellow squash...we'll see.


[/quote]

My wife is out of town for a couple of days attending the regional (5-state) Cultural Counsel of the grocery chain she works for. The topic is how to respond to the big increase in food stamps and how to start now getting ready
to handle the big cut back when this temporary increase ends...I was just wondering how many farmers' markets
are set up to handle food stamps. One would hope that this is the kind of structural changes that would be instigated
with the stimulus package but I doubt if it is happening...
[/quote]

The ferrier was here to day to work on the horses. I raised the farmer's market/food stamps issue with him
and he informed me that yes many farmers markets do accept food stamps and the stimulus program has been
a boost for them. Our small local market doesn't but many do...
Livyjr
It's something to listen to you two talking about planting things this late in the year ....

Up here, the days are getting shorter and it is getting cooler ....

The growing season will soon be gone ....

Unless you can do it inside, and then, you need lights ....

Too much work for me ...

And so ....
Livyjr
OF COURSE WE DO ....

IS THERE ACTUALLY ANYONE THERE WHO THINKS THAT WE WERE NOT SET UP TO TAKE A REAL GOOD SCREWING ON THAT?

And so ...

"Taxpayers face heavy losses on auto bailout"


By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER, AP Economics Writer

Wed Sep 9, 12:01 am ET

WASHINGTON – Taxpayers face losses on a significant portion of the $81 billion in government aid provided to the auto industry, an oversight panel said in a report to be released Wednesday.

The Congressional Oversight Panel did not provide an estimate of the projected loss in its latest monthly report on the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program.

But it said most of the $23 billion initially provided to General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC late last year is unlikely to be repaid.

"I think they drove a very hard bargain," said Elizabeth Warren, the panel's chairwoman and a law professor at Harvard University, referring to the Obama administration's Treasury Department.

"But it may not be enough."

The prospect of recovering the government's assistance to GM and Chrysler is heavily dependent on shares of the two companies rising to unprecedented levels, the report said.

The government owns 10 percent of Chrysler and 61 percent of GM.

The two companies are currently private but are expected to issue stock, in GM's case by next year.

The shares "will have to appreciate sharply" for taxpayers to get their money back, the report said.

For example, GM's market value would have to reach $67.6 billion, the report said, a "highly optimistic" estimate and more than the $57.2 billion GM was worth at the height of its share value in April 2008.

And in the case of Chrysler, about $5.4 billion of the $14.3 billion provided to the company is "highly unlikely" to ever be repaid, the panel said.

Treasury Department officials have acknowledged that most of the $23 billion provided by the Bush administration is likely to be lost.


But Meg Reilly, a department spokeswoman, said there is a "reasonably high probability of the return of most or all of the government funding" that was provided to assist GM and Chrysler with their restructurings.

Administration officials have previously said they want to maximize taxpayers' return on the investment but want to dispose of the government's ownership interests as soon as practicable.

"We are not trying to be Warren Buffett here."

"We are not trying to squeeze every last dollar out," Steve Rattner, who led the administration's auto task force, said before his departure in July.

"We do want to do well for the taxpayers but the most important thing is to get the government out of the car business."

Greg Martin, a spokesman for the new GM, said the company is "confident that we will repay our nation's support because we are a company with less debt, a stronger balance sheet, a winning product portfolio and the right size to match today's market realities."

The Congressional Oversight Panel was created as part of the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP.

It is designed to provide an additional layer of oversight, beyond the Special Inspector General for the TARP and regular audits by the Government Accountability Office.

The panel's report recommends that the Treasury Department consider placing its auto company holdings into an independent trust, to avoid any "conflicts of interest."

The report also recommends the department perform a legal analysis of its decision to provide TARP funds to GM and Chrysler, their financing arms and many auto parts suppliers.

Some critics say the law creating TARP didn't allow for such funding.


The panel's members include Rep. Jeb Hensarling, a Texas Republican, who dissented from the report.

Hensarling said the auto companies should never have received funding and criticized the government for picking "winners and losers."

Other agencies have also projected large losses on the loans and investments provided to the industry.

The Congressional Budget Office estimated in June that taxpayers would lose about $40 billion of the first $55 billion in aid.

__

Associated Press Writer Ken Thomas contributed to this report.
Livyjr
Say, graham ....

rla is a doctor, you know ...

If you ever need your gall bladder out or anything like that, you ought to give the dude a call ....

He might be able to set you up with a forum discount ....

Now there is a modern way to beat the high cost of medical services, is what I am saying ...

And he will have something a lot more exciting than his golf game to talk about while he is cutting you open ....

And so ....
Livyjr
OBAMA IS TANKING HERE ...

"Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent - AP Poll: Public disapproval of Obama's handling of health care rises to 52 percent"


By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press

Last updated: 5:55 p.m., Wednesday, September 9, 2009

WASHINGTON -- Public disapproval of President Barack Obama's handling of health care has leaped to 52 percent, according to Associated Press-GfK poll that underscores the country's glowering mood just as the White House revs up its pitch for an overhaul.

Just 42 percent approve of the president's work on the high-profile health issue.


The survey was released Wednesday hours before his nationally televised effort to persuade Congress and voters to back his drive to reshape the nation's $2.5 trillion-a-year medical system.

Spotlighting how Obama lost ground this summer, his latest approval figures on health were essentially reversed since July, when 50 percent approved of his health effort and just 43 percent disapproved.

The poll illustrates how difficult recent weeks have been for a president who, besides tackling health care, has been battling to end a devastatingly deep recession.

Fifty percent approve and 49 percent disapprove of the overall job he is doing as president, compared to July, when those approving his performance clearly outnumbered those who were unhappy with it, 55 percent to 42 percent.

The slipping figures were an ominous sign for Obama, who by year's end wants Congress to send him legislation lowering health costs while covering millions of uninsured Americans.

Besides near unanimous opposition from Republicans, the president's proposal has divided lawmakers from his own party, with liberals battling for a far-reaching plan that would include optional government-run insurance, and moderates demanding a scaled-down version without public coverage.

The poll found that discontent with Obama's health care effort is not isolated to Republicans.

While nearly nine in 10 from the GOP disapproved of his handling of the issue, so did about six in 10 independents and two in 10 Democrats.

"How in the world can anybody look at this and evaluate it and see if it makes effective change?" Kelly Hoots, 35, a pharmacist and independent from Weaverville, N.C., said of the health care legislation.

"Who knows what's in it?"

Further spotlighting the opposition Obama is encountering, 49 percent in the AP-GfK poll said they oppose the health overhaul plans being considered by Congress, compared to just 34 percent who favor them.

People are about evenly split over what lawmakers should do next on health care:

About four in 10 say they should keep trying to pass a bill this year while about the same number say they should start over again.

Significantly, though, only about two in 10 say the health care system should be left as is, a positive sign for Obama.

"It's about time" for expanded health coverage, said Randy Yarborough, 56, a retired cabinetmaker and Democrat from Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

"Everybody ought to have it."

"Anybody who says we can't afford it or we shouldn't have government health care, you need to wake up."

There is a clear public desire for a bipartisan approach on health care.

Eight in 10 say it's important that any plan that passes Congress have the support of both parties, with Democrats, Republicans and independents all saying so by roughly that proportion.

Two-thirds say if Obama and congressional Democrats can't win support from Republicans to pass a bill this year, they should keep trying until they get it.

Obama's marks are also declining on the economy, with 52 percent saying they disapprove of how he's handled that issue.

Just 46 percent disapproved in a July AP-GfK poll, and 35 percent disapproved in April.

About half disapprove of his handling of taxes, some of which may rise to help finance his health overhaul, and of unemployment, which has been on the rise.

And 56 percent dislike his handling of the budget deficit, which has skyrocketed under the costs of the financial bailouts and a recession that has caused federal revenues to sink.

While 77 percent say health care is important to them, 92 percent said the same about the economy, more than any other issue in the AP-GfK poll.

That suggests that despite Washington's focus on the health care struggle, few voters have taken their eyes off the recession.

"They ought to scrap the whole thing" on health care, said Republican Wendy Sanders, 39, a homemaker from Kingsland, Ga.

"People need jobs."

"Do that."

The survey of 1,001 adults with cell and landline telephones was conducted from Sept. 3-8.

It had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

------

AP polling director Trevor Tompson and news survey specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report.
Livyjr
If you are at a football game, and your team on the scoreboard is down by twenty-four points in the final minute of the fourth quarter, and the cheerleaders for your team are down there in front of you, screaming, "WE'RE WINNING!"

"WE'RE WINNING!"

Do you believe them?

I mean, hey, they are the cheerleaders ....

Would they scream that out if it wasn't so?

And so ...
Livyjr
And of course, that is a silly question ....

OF COURSE YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR TEAM'S CHEERLEADERS!

The scoreboard is only an indication of what is going on ....

While the cheerleaders have inside knowledge ....

And besides, who are you loyal to?

The scoreboard?

Or the team and its cheerleaders?

And so ...
Indianhead
If you've got the right cheerleaders you might be easily confused...



You knew I was gonna do that...meanwhile...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment...omic-world.html

Adam Smith would not be optimistic in today's economic world
Adam Smith once commented that "there is a great deal of ruin in a nation".
He meant that bungling governments imposed only a limited check
on the economic performance of a Great Nation.


Published: 6:59PM BST 06 Sep 2009

As Nathanael Smith and I show in our study of US economic contractions, Adam Smith
would be much less sanguine were he confronted by today's financial crisis and the US
government's response. Indeed, it is not impossible that the US will experience the kind
of economic collapse from first- to third-world status
experienced by Argentina under the
national socialist governance of Juan Peron.

The US economy suffers from a growing culture of indebtedness that has increasingly contaminated
the federal government since 2001
and has spilled over dramatically into private household behaviour.
The combination of the ill-conceived fiscal-furnace fired by President Bush and the US Congress and
the reckless monetary-furnace fired by Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke throughout the period 2001-2007,
created unsustainable housing market and stock market bubbles whose collapse brought on the financial crisis
and economic contraction of 2008-2009.


The policy responses to the debt bubble demonstrate crude political consideration rather than economic
understanding. If excessive government indebtedness is a major source of the problem, why increase
the government debt? Why encourage households to go yet further into debt?


The prognosis is catastrophic if projected government policies are not cut back. According to the White House's
own estimates, the federal budget deficit in 2009 will be $1.6 trillion, approximately 11.2pc of the overall economy,
the highest on record since the end of the Second World War. In 2019, the national debt will represent 76.5pc
of the US national economy, the highest proportion since just after the Second World War. In such circumstances,
the international reserve status of the US dollar will not survive. As it fades, so interest rates on government
securities will rise and the real burden of servicing the debt will increase. In such circumstances, the US economy
will teeter on the edge of a black hole.

Prosperity and full employment in the US will only be restored by a return to laissez-faire capitalism.
Our study outlines a radical, but politically feasible, approach. Monetary policy should be expansionary.
But, on the micro-economic side, tariffs and other trade barriers should be repealed unilaterally; a "Right-to-Work" Act
should reduce the minimum wage and curtail the powers of unions; and business regulation should be reduced.
Individual banks and their counterparties should not be bailed out, although the system should be protected by
ensuring that failing banks are wound up in an orderly fashion – this is the only way to restore market discipline.

Charles K Rowley is Duncan Black Professor of Economics at George Mason University and general director of The Locke Institute
--------------------------------------

...and what are the chances of these opinions being considered???

rla
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Sep 10 2009, 09:30 AM) *
If you've got the right cheerleaders you might be easily confused...



You knew I was gonna do that...meanwhile...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment...omic-world.html

Adam Smith would not be optimistic in today's economic world
Adam Smith once commented that "there is a great deal of ruin in a nation".
He meant that bungling governments imposed only a limited check
on the economic performance of a Great Nation.


Published: 6:59PM BST 06 Sep 2009

As Nathanael Smith and I show in our study of US economic contractions, Adam Smith
would be much less sanguine were he confronted by today's financial crisis and the US
government's response. Indeed, it is not impossible that the US will experience the kind
of economic collapse from first- to third-world status
experienced by Argentina under the
national socialist governance of Juan Peron.

The US economy suffers from a growing culture of indebtedness that has increasingly contaminated
the federal government since 2001
and has spilled over dramatically into private household behaviour.
The combination of the ill-conceived fiscal-furnace fired by President Bush and the US Congress and
the reckless monetary-furnace fired by Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke throughout the period 2001-2007,
created unsustainable housing market and stock market bubbles whose collapse brought on the financial crisis
and economic contraction of 2008-2009.


The policy responses to the debt bubble demonstrate crude political consideration rather than economic
understanding. If excessive government indebtedness is a major source of the problem, why increase
the government debt? Why encourage households to go yet further into debt?


The prognosis is catastrophic if projected government policies are not cut back. According to the White House's
own estimates, the federal budget deficit in 2009 will be $1.6 trillion, approximately 11.2pc of the overall economy,
the highest on record since the end of the Second World War. In 2019, the national debt will represent 76.5pc
of the US national economy, the highest proportion since just after the Second World War. In such circumstances,
the international reserve status of the US dollar will not survive. As it fades, so interest rates on government
securities will rise and the real burden of servicing the debt will increase. In such circumstances, the US economy
will teeter on the edge of a black hole.

Prosperity and full employment in the US will only be restored by a return to laissez-faire capitalism.
Our study outlines a radical, but politically feasible, approach. Monetary policy should be expansionary.
But, on the micro-economic side, tariffs and other trade barriers should be repealed unilaterally; a "Right-to-Work" Act
should reduce the minimum wage and curtail the powers of unions; and business regulation should be reduced.
Individual banks and their counterparties should not be bailed out, although the system should be protected by
ensuring that failing banks are wound up in an orderly fashion – this is the only way to restore market discipline.

Charles K Rowley is Duncan Black Professor of Economics at George Mason University and general director of The Locke Institute
--------------------------------------

...and what are the chances of these opinions being considered???


And all the dope addicts of the world will make a covenant with each other to go cold turkey...
Livyjr
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Sep 10 2009, 08:30 AM) *
If you've got the right cheerleaders you might be easily confused...


TALK ABOUT CHEERLEADERS ...

WHAT THE FED IS SEEING HERE IS THE SHADOW ON THE WALL OF AN ILLUSION THAT IT HAS CREATED WITH TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN "NEW" MONEY THAT IT HAS PRINTED OUT OF THIN AIR ...

A BUNCH OF DOUBLE-TALK AND COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF GOBBLE-DE-GOOK ...

AND IT DESPERATELY WANTS US TO BELIEVE IN THAT ILLUSION TOO ....

IN THE HOPES THAT WE WILL ALL GET GIDDY AND GO OUT AND START SPREEING AND RACKING UP CRIPPLING AND CRUSHING DEBT ALL OVER AGAIN ...

OR THE ENGINE THAT DRIVES THE USURIOUS WORLD OF BEN BERNANKE AND THE FED IS GOING TO COME TO A SCREECHING HALT ...

And so ...

"Fed survey shows US recession may be over - Federal Reserve survey shows worst recession since 1930s may be over"


By JEANNINE AVERSA, Associated Press

Last updated: 6:35 p.m., Wednesday, September 9, 2009

WASHINGTON -- The recession is ending and the economy is finally growing again.

That's the message implicit in the Federal Reserve's latest survey of businesses around the country, which found economic activity stabilizing or improving in most regions.

Economists warn the expansion is fragile and will have staying power only if consumers start spending more money.


Rising unemployment that keeps Americans cautions could make for a plodding recovery in the months ahead.

All but one of the Fed's 12 regions indicated economic activity either was "stable," showed "signs of stabilization" or had "firmed," according to the Fed's survey.

The one exception was the St. Louis region, which reported the economic decline is "moderating."

Businesses in most Fed regions said they were "cautiously positive" about the economic road ahead.

The survey, known as the Beige Book, does not include precise figures.

Analysts predict the economy is growing in the current quarter, which ends Sept. 30, at an annual rate of 3 percent to 4 percent.

That's mostly because businesses, which had slashed investments during the recession, are spending more.

Auto sales have been lifted by the government's recently ended Cash for Clunkers program.

Manufacturing and the battered housing market, which led the country into recession when it collapsed, have also shown signs of improvement.

The problem for the economy is that the expected growth this quarter comes mainly from the auto companies and other manufacturers, which are refilling their depleted stockpiles.

Those inventories had dwindled as factories and retailers sought to bring what they had more in line with reduced sales.

Any robust growth in the economy might be short-lived if shoppers don't step up their spending.

In the Fed survey, most regions of the country reported that the clunkers program had boosted sales.

Other merchants struggled.

And consumer spending remained soft in most places.

Still, the assessments of businesses on the front lines of the economy were brighter than those they provided for the last edition of the Fed survey in late July.

At that time, most regions of the country reflected only that the recession was easing its grip.

"That's a pretty significant change in tone from the previous Fed report," said Brian Bethune, economist at IHS Global Insight.

In Wednesday's survey, the Dallas region indicated that economic activity had "firmed."

The Fed regions of Boston, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Richmond and San Francisco mentioned "signs of improvement."

The Atlanta, Chicago, Kansas City, Minneapolis and New York regions described activity as "stable or showing signs of stabilization."

The survey's findings will figure into discussions when Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and his colleagues meet Sept. 22-23.

The Fed is expected to keep interest rates at record lows, probably for some time, to help nurture the recovery.

"There are presently some signs that the economy is stabilizing and even reviving in certain areas, despite mixed signals," Richard Fisher, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, said in a speech in Texas.

In most regions, manufacturers reported "modest" improvements.

In and around San Francisco, orders rose for semiconductors.

Richmond, Atlanta, Chicago and Minneapolis reported increases or planned increases in automobile production.

Several regions noted more production for prescription drugs.

The market for homes is still weak -- though it flashed some signs of improvement.

In most places, buyer demand was stronger for cheaper homes, and in and around Philadelphia sales were up for more expensive homes, too.

Fed regions credited a tax incentive for first-time home buyers with increasing sales.

Home prices kept falling in most parts of the country, though in the Dallas and New York regions, the survey found prices "firming."

There was plenty of bad news in the survey.


In the commercial real estate market, demand stayed weak, and construction fell in all parts of the country.

And the job market was still sickly all over the nation.

The nation's unemployment rate, which stood at 9.7 percent in August, could top 10 percent this year.

Fisher, of the Dallas Fed, called for "uncomfortably high unemployment" as businesses keep cutting costs.

After the sudden growth expected in the current quarter, many analysts expect the economy to slow a bit through the rest of this year and into 2010.

The Fed's survey found that staffing companies in most of its regions saw a pickup in demand for temporary workers.

That's an encouraging sign: Employers typically use more temp workers before they hire new employees.

Still, several regions noted that businesses and local governments were imposing wage freezes or cutting compensation.

With the labor market weak, employers are keeping a lid on wages and helping hold down any inflation, the Fed report said.

Expectations for a lethargic recovery will probably keep companies from jacking up prices as well, the report suggested.
Livyjr
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 10 2009, 04:27 PM) *
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Sep 10 2009, 08:30 AM) *
If you've got the right cheerleaders you might be easily confused...


TALK ABOUT CHEERLEADERS ...

WHAT THE FED IS SEEING HERE IS THE SHADOW ON THE WALL OF AN ILLUSION THAT IT HAS CREATED WITH TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN "NEW" MONEY THAT IT HAS PRINTED OUT OF THIN AIR ...

A BUNCH OF DOUBLE-TALK AND COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF GOBBLE-DE-GOOK ...

AND IT DESPERATELY WANTS US TO BELIEVE IN THAT ILLUSION TOO ....

IN THE HOPES THAT WE WILL ALL GET GIDDY AND GO OUT AND START SPREEING AND RACKING UP CRIPPLING AND CRUSHING DEBT ALL OVER AGAIN ...

OR THE ENGINE THAT DRIVES THE USURIOUS WORLD OF BEN BERNANKE AND THE FED IS GOING TO COME TO A SCREECHING HALT ...

And so ...



MARKETWATCH Bond Report

Sep 10, 2009, 3:30 p.m.

By Nick Godt, MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Treasury prices extended gains Thursday, pushing 10-year yields down by the most in two months, as the government's sale of 30-year bonds drew strong investor demand on the heels of two note auctions that went off successfully this week.

The strong auctions show U.S. debt still holds some appeal amid suspicions that the economy won't grow as quickly or robustly as some expect.


Livyjr
AND HERE COMES ANOTHER ****ING OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE .....

AND A WINDFALL FOR OBAMA'S CORPORATE SUPPORTERS AT OUR EXPENSE ...

And so ...

"Policyholders could pay more under Obama plan - Policyholders could to pay more under Obama plan as insurance companies pass on costs"


By TOM MURPHY and LINDA A. JOHNSON, Associated Press

Last updated: 6:15 p.m., Thursday, September 10, 2009

If President Barack Obama gets what he wants in his health care plan -- covering all Americans and barring insurers from denying coverage -- some analysts say individuals could wind up paying higher premiums.

The Obama plan would impose new costs on insurance companies, which would probably then raise the prices customers pay for coverage.


Employers also would likely pass on some of their higher costs to employees.

An individual in a typical plan might have to pay up to $780 more for the same coverage in the first year of Obama's plan, estimates Erik Gordon, a health care analyst and assistant professor at the University of Michigan's Ross School of Business.

Gordon said employees now typically pay 20 to 40 percent of the premium for a typical health care package costing about $13,000 a year for a family of four, with employers picking up the rest.

Obama's plan would raise insurers' costs 10 to 15 percent if reform doesn't provide other savings, Gordon estimated.

He thinks employers would stick employees with perhaps 40 percent of the higher premium, or $520 to $780 more -- though they might also receive better coverage because of mandatory preventive care and screenings.

The president told Congress most of health care reform can be paid for by eliminating waste and abuse in the existing system.

Better screenings that prevent chronic diseases later would also save money, the administration has argued.

In his speech to Congress on Wednesday night, Obama said he wants to bar insurers from denying coverage to anyone because of a pre-existing health problem, canceling policies for sick people or refusing to cover preventive care.

He also suggested limits on Americans' co-payments and deductibles.

"We will place a limit on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses, because in the United States of America, no one should go broke because they get sick," the president said.

Obama would also charge insurers a fee for their most expensive policies as a way of encouraging insurers to keep costs low and keep their rates low.

In addition, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, has proposed a new fee on insurers that would subsidize coverage for uninsured Americans.


The fee would generate about $6 billion a year.

Covering tens of millions more Americans would heap hundreds of billions of dollars in costs on managed care companies.

Yet insurers stand to benefit in other ways.

Consultants estimate Obama's priorities would shower the industry with at least $1 trillion in new revenue from premiums over the next decade.

Industry representatives counter that, even if insurers take in more money than they pay out, profit margins are so thin that additional taxes and fees would wind up being passed on to policyholders.

"There is no room for these taxes," said H. Edward Hanway, CEO of Cigna.

"What you're ultimately going to see if those taxes hold is everybody's costs going up, not just the new people being covered."

"The concern I have is these taxes don't do anything but add to the cost of people already insured."

Others said Obama's plan might not raise costs as much as expected if everyone is required to have insurance and receive preventive care like regular checkups or mammograms, which can save money in the long run.

Lawmakers have yet to settle on any single health care plan.

But several ideas being discussed could be a boon to private health insurers, especially if the eventual reform does not include a public plan to compete with them.

Obama reiterated his support for a public plan but did not insist on it, and industry analysts think the idea will disappear eventually.

That helps explain why analysts don't think the insurance industry faces any serious threat from the Obama plan.

The stocks of several health insurers performed better than the broader market Thursday.

Shares of Cigna rose more than 5 percent, and Humana Inc., WellPoint Inc. and Aetna Inc. all climbed at least 2 percent.

Investors are "coming more and more to the conclusion that it's really not going to hurt," said BMO Capital Markets analyst Dave Shove.

Shove noted that many insurers already operate profitably in states that have restrictions similar to those being discussed in reform proposals.

These include limits on profitability and laws that guarantee coverage for individual insurance.

Health care reform without a public option "would be fantastic" for insurers, said Robert Laszewski, president of Health Policy and Strategy Associates, a Virginia-based health care consulting firm.

"They're going to get millions of new customers and more than a trillion in new premiums over a 10-year period," said Laszewski, a former industry executive.

"There's a reason they aren't running any negative ads."


The plan also would send new business to providers.

Another analyst, David Bachman of Longbow Research in Independence, Ohio, expects spending on doctor visits would jump $8.5 billion a year under Obama's proposal.

He also expects to see an initial increase in spending on supplies used during patient visits, amounting to roughly $2 billion per year, and billions of dollars more for diagnostic testing and prescription drugs.

Overall, Bachman said his "back-of-the-envelope calculation" indicates a 15 percent increase in spending at hospitals, 17 percent more for doctor visits and 10 to 12 percent more for patient supplies.

Insurers will then pass those increases on to customers, he said.


"They're going to raise premiums on employers, who are going to raise costs for employees," Bachman said.

"Then the fight becomes over how to best control costs."

----------

AP business writers Matt Perrone in Washington, D.C., and Damian J. Troise in New York contributed to this report.
Livyjr
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF "YEAH, RIGHT", WE HAVE:

David Bianco, head of U.S. equity strategy at Banc of America Securities-Merrill Lynch in New York, said the rally has merit because stocks had tumbled so far since their peak.

"This is a rally that's supported by the fundamentals," he said.

"Maybe it's moving a little bit too fast for the normal rules of thumb but we haven't seen a crash like that since the Great Depression."

- "Stocks extend gains to 5 days after jobs report - Stocks rise for 5th day after slight improvement in jobless claims; Dow climbs 80 points"By TIM PARADIS, Associated Press, Last updated: 6:36 p.m., Thursday, September 10, 2009

Livyjr
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Sep 11 2009, 04:31 AM) *
The results show "the Treasury can borrow all the money it wants and can do so on very favorable terms," said Dan Greenhaus, chief economic strategist at Miller Tabak.

http://www.marketwatch.com/column/Bond%20Report

QUOTE(Livyjr @ Aug 31 2009, 04:47 PM) *
"Federal Reserve made $14 billion on turmoil loans: report"

Mon Aug 31, 12:24 am ET

LONDON (Reuters) – The Federal Reserve has made $14 billion in profits on loans made in the last two years, The Financial Times reported on Monday, citing officials close to the matter.

AND AS OBAMA CONTINUES TO BURY US UNDER A HUGE MOUNTAIN OF DEBT WITH HIS WARS AND HIS BAIL-OUTS AND GIVE-AWAYS, WE HAVE ....

"Federal deficit hits $1.38 trillion through August - Federal deficit climbs higher into record territory, hits $1.38 trillion in first 11 months"


By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, Associated Press

Last updated: 5:56 p.m., Friday, September 11, 2009

WASHINGTON -- The federal deficit surged higher into record territory in August, hitting $1.38 trillion with one month left in the budget year.

The soaring deficits have raised worries about the willingness of foreigners to keep purchasing Treasury debt.

The Chinese, now the largest foreign owners of U.S. Treasury securities, have expressed concerns about runaway deficits.


Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and other administration officials have sought to address those concerns by insisting that once the recession is over and the financial system is stabilized, the administration will move forcefully to get the deficits under control.

Republican critics contend the administration does not have a credible plan to address future deficits.

"The $9 trillion question is when will the White House do more than just pay lip service to tackling these jaw-dropping deficits that threaten our economic stability," House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio said in a statement.

"Piling more and more debt on future generations while massively increasing federal spending is not a response."


Private economists worry the country could face the grim prospect of seeing interest rates soar in future years and the dollar weaken as foreigners dump their U.S. holdings.

The Treasury Department said Friday that last month's deficit was $111.4 billion, below the $152 billion that economists expected.

Still, the imbalance added to a flood of red ink already accumulated through the recession and massive spending needed to stabilize the banking system.

The Obama administration last month trimmed its forecast for this year's deficit to $1.58 trillion, from an earlier $1.84 trillion.

The recovery of the banking system led to the reduced estimate as it meant the administration did not need to get an additional $250 billion in bailout support for banks.

The $1.58 trillion estimate for the full budget year signals that that administration expects the imbalance in September to be around $200 billion.

That would be a sharp deterioration from September 2008 when the government closed out that budget year with a $45.7 billion surplus.


Many private economists have slightly smaller deficit estimates for the full year but all agree that 2009 will be a record-holder by a large margin.

The previous record deficit in dollar terms was $454.8 billion last year.

The administration's revised budget forecasts issued last month also underscored how much the government's fiscal picture has deteriorated.

It is now projecting the deficit over the next decade will total $9 trillion, $2 trillion more than its estimates from a few months ago.


The deterioration partly reflects the country's deep recession, the worst since the 1930s.

That downturn has cut into government receipts and pushed up spending in such areas as unemployment benefits and food stamps, along with the cost of fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In addition, the government is using a $787 billion economic stimulus program passed by Congress last February to jump-start growth and is spending massive amounts from the $700 billion financial bailout package passed in October 2008 to stabilize the financial system.

The Treasury Department budget report for August showed the government collected $145.5 billion in revenues, a drop of 7.3 percent from August 2008.

It marked the 16th consecutive month that revenues have been lower than the previous year, a string that reflects how much the recession, which began in December 2007, has cut into personal income and corporate taxes.

Spending in August totaled $256.9 billion, down 4.5 percent from the year before.

However, that comparison was misleading because the deficit last month was lowered by timing shifts which saw some payments shifted into July because Aug. 1 fell on a Saturday.

Primarily because of the timing shifts, last month's deficit was 0.5 percent lower than in August 2008.

For the first 11 months of the budget year, spending totals $3.26 trillion, up 18.7 percent from a year ago, while tax receipts fell 16.1 percent to $1.89 trillion.

The spending increases include the administration's estimate that $174.2 billion has been tapped from the financial bailout fund and another $84.9 billion went toward propping up mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

In addition, federal spending on unemployment benefits totaled $104.7 billion through August, up from $41.4 billion in the year-ago period.
Livyjr
"'Surprise' hits school taxpayers - Property owners greeted with bigger-than-expected bills, in part because the state reduced STAR breaks"

By RICK KARLIN, Capitol bureau, Albany, New York Times Union

First published in print: Saturday, September 12, 2009

ALBANY -- Dan Egan got quite a surprise when he received his Albany city school tax bill last week.

Rather than rising about 2.5 percent as the district had predicted before last spring's budget vote, school taxes on his house jumped a whopping 9.7 percent.


"That's hardly an estimate when you miss by 300 percent," he said.

Egan has heard similar complaints from his neighbors.

"It's a surprise tax of a couple of hundred bucks," said Egan, a retired Department of Transportation financial officer, whose school taxes rose from $3,811 to $4,184.

Albany isn't the only school district in which homeowners are seeing tax bills that are higher than those predicted by school officials.

Part of that is the state's fault, as the governor and legislature in 2008 quietly lowered the School Tax Relief (STAR) tax breaks that most homeowners receive.

That reduction is what is known as the "floor adjustment," or the discounted basis upon which a homeowner's taxes are calculated.

STAR, which was instituted in the late 1990s, helps control property tax costs by reducing the assessed value upon which a home's taxes are based.

The initial STAR exemption was $30,000, meaning that a home valued at $100,000 would be taxed on $70,000 of its worth.

As housing prices rose in the late 1990s and the early part of this decade, the exemption amount went up as well.

But now that prices have been falling, so has the exemption, explained state Division of Budget spokesman Matt Anderson.

Since 2008, it has dropped 11 percent.

A lower exemption translates into higher taxes:

In Albany, for instance, last year's basic STAR exemption was $36,160 taken off the price of a home; this year, that sum fell to $32,180.

That means the baseline home value from which school taxes are calculated went up by $3,980 for homeowners.

The change in the exemption was made with almost no publicity, even though Gov. David Paterson proposed it in his budget, which was passed last spring.

"It just kind of gets slipped in (the state budget), but it shows up on your tax bill," said Bill Hogan, assistant superintendent for business at the Albany school district.

That move presaged a larger and much more publicized hit on homeowners: the elimination of the middle-class STAR rebate program, which had previously saved property owners hundreds of dollars annually.

The rebate's demise and the exemption's decline were among the sacrifices to close the state's $17.7 billion budget deficit.

But STAR changes only tell part of the story in Albany.

Egan (who is unrelated to the school board member of same name) figures that the reduced STAR cost him around $50.

City homeowners are also paying more this year because commercial property prices slid faster than residential values.

The taxable value of Albany's commercial property fell about 4.3 percent, compared to a drop of less than half a percent for residential structures, said Hogan.

He said the overall tax levy, or the amount of money the schools took from all of the city's real estate taxes, went up a fairly modest 2.77 percent.

But with less real estate value to tap, officials had to dig deeper to achieve its budget.

The Albany school district serves about 10,000 students and carries a budget of $203.8 million.

Homeowners like Egan and his neighbors wonder if businesses should start paying more in future years.

The possible peril of that move would be driving some establishments out of the city, which would mean even fewer taxable dollars and the possible creation of a vicious cycle of declining revenue.

Right now, "The burden is falling on the residential taxpayers," said Egan, who like others says he thinks about leaving Albany every time he see property taxes rise.

"I like living in Albany, but I think it's getting out of hand," said Deborah Onslow, another neighbor of Egan's, who said her total local tax bill will run about $10,000.

Onslow, the former president of WMHT, said a friend of hers owns a $1.3 million condo in Boston and pays a fraction of that.


"I honestly wonder about whether or not I'm going to continue to live in the city," she said.

"They are going to lose their most valuable asset: They are going to tax middle-class taxpayers out of their houses."
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BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, WHO MOCKED AMERICANS FOR CLINGING TO THEIR BIBLES AND GUNS, IS DRIVING PEOPLE EN MASSE TO BUY GUNS THAT THEY CAN CLING TO DURING HIS ADMINISTRATION ...

OBAMA IS TURNING THE NATION INTO AN ARMED CAMP ...

And so ...

"Fearing controls, packing heat - Concerns over President Obama's anti-gun stance trigger an upswing in handgun sales."


By CAROL DeMARE, Staff writer, Albany, New York Times Union

First published in print: Sunday, September 13, 2009

It was time, Beth Salvesen felt, to buy a gun.

She'd thought about it for a long while, and finally pulled the trigger.

"It's my right and I'm 50," the Greene County resident said.

Salvesen started the permit process last December and by the end of June, she had her permit.

She is now the owner of a Smith & Wesson .38-caliber revolver that she bought for $550.

Her partner, Sherri Roff, also 50, went through the process with her and owns a Ruger Lightweight Compact Pistol .380 that runs $350.

Roff, the director of a rehabilitation center for women in Albany, said having the pistol "makes me feel safer."

"I have a much better chance of defending myself."

"Hope I never have to use it."

"We didn't want to wait any longer because you hear in the news the gun laws could change," said Salvesen, who works in construction as a painter.

"I don't know if that's something against the President that the Republicans are saying or whether it's the gun people because they're the ones benefiting from it."


The two women from Freehold have joined thousands of Americans this year in becoming first-time handgun owners.

Even before the election of Barack Obama, guardians of the Second Amendment voiced fears that the new Democratic administration would lead to a crackdown on legal gun ownership.

One result has been a dramatic rise in the number of New Yorkers and people across the nation applying for permits to own a handgun.

That increase is borne out by the volume of applications requiring criminal history checks that are coming to the desks of local police, the FBI and, finally, judges who make the decision.

The state Division of Criminal Justice Services processes fingerprint cards for criminal history.

For this year, card checks are averaging 2,288 per month, compared with an average per month last year of 1,538.

Similarly, the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System data show checks jumped significantly starting the last three months of last year over the same time the year before.

Gun shops have experienced a surge in sales to people who say they want to get ahead of possible federal legislation restricting handgun ownership.

Dealers also report that customers are putting up more cash for higher-quality firearms despite the faltering economy.


The spike in sales is not just from new buyers.

Longtime permit holders are expanding their collections.

In some New York counties, amendments to existing permits required for each new gun are going through the roof.

"It's not just new permits,'' said Rensselaer County Clerk Frank Merola, whose office processes handgun permits and amendments.

"The guy who used to have one or two guns now has four or five, and it has a lot to do with the election."

A national poll shows Americans support the Second Amendment, said Tom King, a Rensselaer County resident who is president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association and a member of the National Rifle Association's board of directors.

The survey, conducted at the end of July by Zogby International and the O'Leary Report, showed nearly 83 percent of those polled said they supported laws in effect in 39 states that allow residents who have passed background checks to carry firearms to protect themselves.

Of those agreeing, 79 percent were Democrats, 85 percent Republicans and 86 percent independents.

When Obama was running and just after the election, King said, the mainstream media "told everybody through stories how anti-gun he is."

"The people are responding in the only way they know how."

"They are going out and buying firearms hoping they will be grandfathered in should they be banned."


A recent U.S. Senate vote fell short on an amendment to allow gun owners with permits from their individual states to carry a concealed firearm across state lines.

Although the vote on the measure was 58-39, it failed to get the 60 votes needed to avoid a Senate filibuster.

Brian Olesen owns four gun shops in the Capital Region, in Colonie, East Greenbush, Amsterdam and Troy, where a new store opened this month.

"Since November, sales across the country have increased from 30 to 60 percent," he said, quoting Shooting Industry magazine.

Smaller stores have shown a 30 percent increase, while larger stores, such as his B&J Guns on Central Avenue in Colonie, recorded a 60 percent increase, he said.

He characterized the phenomenon, applying to about 25 percent of his clients in the past six months, as "fear-based sales."

"They're afraid they're never going to get a permit due to government intervention," Olesen said.


"People are looking at this as a last-ditch attempt to take advantage of their Second Amendment rights."

Jeff Gildersleeve, a local firearms safety and tactics instructor and retired State Police senior investigator, agreed.

"Some are doing it out of fear of not being able to buy guns in another year or two, some see the downward turn in the economy may lead to civil unrest, and they may need to protect themselves."

"And others, it's because of the criminal element out there, and they just want to take responsibility to protect their homes and families and everything in between."

Cost is no deal-breaker.

Two years ago, buyers paid a high of $400 for a handgun, compared to $600 or more today, Olesen said.

Training also comes with a price.

Individual classes cost $150 for three hours.

A group class also runs $150 for eight hours.

Total fees for a pistol permit can cost another $150.

The National Rifle Association ties the gun-buying spree and also an ammunition shortage directly to the change in Washington.

"With a Democratic-controlled Congress and the Obama administration, which has been predominantly not pro-gun, more and more Americans realized this is a freedom we sometimes take for granted and they want to make sure it is protected," NRA spokeswoman Alexa Fritts said.

Merola said Rensselaer County could see a total of a couple thousand more new permits and amendments this year over last, and the workload for pistol permit clerk Joyce Sullivan is huge.

Sullivan said it's the first time she's seen this kind of surge in her 15 years.

"It started right around election time."

"I think they're all panicking because they think it's the president -- that's what they tell me."

"I tell them it's not."

Sullivan handled 115 applications from January to June, along with 1,019 amendments to existing permits, according to State Police Sgt. James Sherman, who's in charge of the pistol permit bureau, the repository of all firearm-related records in New York.

In all of last year, Rensselaer County processed 175 applications and 1,540 amendments.

The Washington-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence began "fielding these calls a week-and-a-half to two weeks before Election Day, and it's now August, and we're still getting these calls," spokesman Doug Pennington said.

However, "statistics indicate the market is cooling off," Pennington said, pointing to an Associated Press story in August quoting Wall Street analyst Jim Barrett, who said FBI background checks of potential new buyers climbed only 8 percent in July over a year earlier, but showed a decrease from April when the FBI recorded a 30 percent increase in checks.

"These gun sales will fall back to earth," Pennington said.

They already have for Cathy Petronis, who with her husband, David, owns the Hudson River Trading Co. in Mechanicville.

"There was a dramatic increase in sales until mid-July, and then they slowed down a bit," she said.

Meanwhile, Pennington said, Obama hasn't tightened gun control, and "in fact, he signed a bill making it easier to carry guns in national parks."

That legislation, proposed by President George W. Bush and signed by Obama in May, was included as part of a bill imposing new restrictions on credit card companies.

For many years, it was tough to get a judge in Albany County to sign a pistol permit.

The late County Judge John Clyne would let a stack of applications two feet high accumulate on his desk, refusing to sign any.

He'd ask the applicants why they wanted a gun, and the answer was usually to take up target practice.

"Take up tennis," Clyne told them.

That's not the case today.

Applications in Albany County are distributed among state Supreme Court justices.

One of them, Joseph Teresi, said he's received an increase of applications for amendments and applications for initial permits.

"A lot of people attribute it to the change of politics, people's fears of a change in regulations," Colonie Police Chief Steve Heider said.

He mentioned the proposed Albany County law to require record keeping of those who make ammunition purchases and said, "People fear these are small steps."

But it's not all doom and gloom.

Heider, whose investigators process permit applications before sending them to judges -- he signs at least 100 applications a year in his town of 80,000 -- has seen "a huge increase" in women, many for recreational purposes.

They want to join husbands in target shooting.

The chief calls it a big swing toward "a family-type event" -- parents and children going to a gun club to compete.

Last month, Cathy and David Petronis sponsored their summer gun show at the Saratoga Springs City Center.

The four-times-a-year event began in 1984.

The August event draws celebrities who are in town for the track.

"I'm amazed," she said, "at how many celebrities collect guns."

Research director Sarah Hinman contributed. Carol DeMare can be reached at 454-5431 or by e-mail at cdemare@timesunion.com.
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"Summers concedes risks of ending support for banks - As government begins phasing out aid for banks, Summers acknowledges risks of acting too fast"

By JEANNINE AVERSA, Associated Press

Last updated: 6:35 p.m., Friday, September 11, 2009

WASHINGTON -- A top economic adviser to President Barack Obama on Friday acknowledged the risks of reining in too quickly the emergency programs put in place to battle the financial crisis.

"We will not make the mistake of prematurely declaring victory or prematurely withdrawing public support for the flow of credit," said Lawrence Summers, director of the White House National Economic Council.


Summers added that he wanted to avoid the mistakes Japan made in the 1990s and the United States in the late 1930s by pulling the plug on government support too soon.

Such a mistake "we must not make today," he said in a session with reporters.

Doing so could short-circuit an economic recovery, freeze up lending, spook financial markets and send interest rates higher.

The economy has been flashing signs of a recovery, and lending has improved some.

But the financial system and the economy remain far from normal.

Unemployment, now at a 26-year high of 9.7 percent, is "unacceptably high" and will remain so for "a number of years," Summers conceded.

In addition, he noted, the commercial real-estate market is under pressure, and small businesses are having trouble tapping credit.

Still, amid evidence that the worst recession since the Great Depression is ending, the government is winding down some programs.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Thursday said a department program to bolster money market mutual funds will close as scheduled Sept. 18.

In June, the Federal Reserve said it would let a separate money market mutual fund program expire Oct. 30.

It also scaled back some loans to banks.

Last month, the Fed said it would stop buying government bonds in October.

That program had been aimed at driving down rates on mortgages and other consumer debt.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., meanwhile, is considering whether to stop making new guarantees for bank debt at the end of October, as now scheduled, or extend the program.

Summers said the government's first steps toward withdrawing its emergency support show the financial system is strengthening.

President Barack Obama, in a speech set for Monday, will make a fresh pitch for Congress to overhaul financial rules to better guard against future crises.

The push comes a year after Lehman Brothers collapsed, sending financial markets around the world into chaos and nearly halting the flow of loans to investors, businesses and ordinary people.

Efforts to revamp financial rules have bogged down in Congress.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Obama's speech Monday will focus on "the need to take the next series of steps in financial regulatory reform."

Summers indicated that the administration is open to negotiation in overhauling regulations but refrained from offering details.
Livyjr
"Regulators seize construction lender Corus Bank - Regulators close major Chicago-based commercial real estate lender; 92 bank failures this year"

By IEVA M. AUGSTUMS, Associated Press

Last updated: 10:05 p.m., Friday, September 11, 2009

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Federal regulators on Friday said they seized Corus Bancshares Inc., a major Chicago-based lender to condominium, office and hotel projects, adding it to the long list of banks that have succumbed this year to the recession and waves of loan defaults.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. took over Corus Bank, which had $7 billion in total assets, and $7 billion in deposits.

The deposits will be assumed by MB Financial Inc., also based in Chicago.

Corus Bank's 11 branches will open on their next normally scheduled business day as branches of MB Financial Bank.

Regular deposit accounts are insured up to $250,000.

The closure of Corus Bank, one of the largest banks to fail this year, will cost the FDIC $1.7 billion.

Corus made construction loans nationwide, specializing in condominium, office and hotel projects.

The bank has staggered for weeks under the weight of bad real estate loans and its collapse had been anticipated.

Already in February, the bank had said losses on condo construction loans in a gutted housing market had forced it to hunt for new sources of capital.

The bank had cited "a rapid and precipitous decline" in the value of collateral securing its condo loans, mainly in Arizona, southern California, southern Florida and Nevada.

It acknowledged that its capital was critically eroded.

Earlier this year, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago and the office of the Comptroller of the Currency, a Treasury Department agency, put Corus under special monitoring.

Regulators rejected the bank's proposed plans for restructuring and shoring up its capital.

The Treasury Department rejected Corus' application for aid under the $700 billion financial bailout program.

Besides assuming the deposits of Corus Bank, MB Financial agreed to buy about $3 billion of its assets.

The FDIC will retain the rest for eventual sale.

MB Financial Bank did not acquire Corus' commercial real estate loans or loans and other real estate owned related to Corus' construction lending business.

These loans have been retained by the FDIC.


The FDIC, an independent agency that seeks to maintain stability and public confidence in the financial system, said Friday it also shut down two more banks: Brickwell Community Bank in Woodbury, Minn., with $72 million in assets and about $63 million in deposits, and Venture Bank in Lacey, Wash., with $970 million in assets and about $903 million in deposits.

With the three closures announced Friday, the number of banks that have failed this year stands at 92.

Brickwell's deposits will be assumed by CorTrust Bank, based in Mitchell, S.D.

Its one branch will reopen Saturday as offices of CorTrust Bank.

Venture's deposits will be assumed by First-Citizens Bank & Trust Co., based in Raleigh, N.C.

Its 18 branches will reopen Saturday as offices of First Citizens Bank.

Besides assuming the deposits of Brickwell, CorTrust agreed to buy all of its assets.

The FDIC also entered into an agreement with CorTrust under which the bank will share in any losses on around $65 million of Brickwell's assets.

First-Citizens Bank & Trust will assume $874 million of Venture's assets.

The FDIC will retain the rest for eventual sale.

The FDIC also entered into an agreement with First-Citizens under which the bank will share in any losses on around $715 million of Venture's assets.


The FDIC estimates that the cost to the deposit insurance fund from the closing of Brickwell will be $22 million, while Venture's failure will cost the insurance fund $298 million.

Hundreds more banks are expected to fail in the next few years largely because of souring loans for commercial real estate.

The number of banks on the FDIC's confidential "problem list" jumped to 416 at the end of June from 305 in the first quarter.

That's the highest number since June 1994, during the savings-and-loan crisis.

Last month, Guaranty Bank became the second-largest U.S. bank to fail this year after the big Texas lender was shut down and most of its operations sold at a loss of billions of dollars for the government to a major Spanish bank.

The failure, the 10th-largest in U.S. history, is expected to cost the insurance fund an estimated $3 billion.

The insurance fund has been so depleted by the epidemic of collapsing financial institutions that some analysts have warned it could sink into the red by the end of this year.

The fund fell 20 percent to $10.4 billion at the end of June, the FDIC reported last week.

That's its lowest point since 1992, at the height of the S&L crisis.

The agency estimates bank failures will cost the fund around $70 billion through 2013.
Livyjr
THE BANKSTERS KNOW NOW THAT THEY CAN GAMBLE AS RECKLESSLY AS THEY WANT, BECAUSE THEY NOW HAVE A LOCK ON CONTINUED GOVERNMENT FINANCING OF THEIR GAMBLING WHEN THEY LOSE ...

THE GOVERNMENT'S MONEY REALLY BELONGS TO THEM ....

And so ...

"Risk-taking is back for banks 1 year after crisis - Banks' appetite for risk is rebounding 1 year after crisis: Is the financial system any safer?"


By STEVENSON JACOBS, Associated Press

Last updated: 3:15 p.m., Sunday, September 13, 2009

NEW YORK -- A year after the financial system nearly collapsed, the nation's biggest banks are bigger and regaining their appetite for risk.

Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and others -- which have received tens of billions of dollars in federal aid -- are once more betting big on bonds, commodities and exotic financial products, trading that nearly stopped during the financial crisis.

That Wall Street is making money again in essentially the same ways that thrust the banking system into chaos last fall is reason for concern on several levels, financial analysts and government officials say.

-- There have been no significant changes to the federal rules governing their behavior.

Proposals that have been made to better monitor the financial system and to police the products banks sell to consumers have been held up by lobbyists, lawmakers and turf-protecting regulators.

-- Through mergers and the failure of Lehman Brothers, the mammoth banks whose near-collapse prompted government rescues have gotten even bigger, increasing the risk they pose to the financial system.

And they still make bets that, in the aggregate, are worth far more than the capital they have on hand to cover against potential losses.

-- The government's response to last year's meltdown was to spend whatever it takes to protect the financial system from collapse -- a precedent that could encourage even greater risk-taking from the private sector.


Lawrence Summers, director of the White House National Economic Council, says an overhaul of financial regulations is needed as soon as possible to keep the financial system safe over the long haul.

"You cannot rely on the scars of past crises to ensure against practices that will lead to future crises," Summers says.

No one is predicting another meltdown from risky trading in the near term.

Rather, the concern is what happens over time as banks' confidence grows and the memory of the financial crisis of 2008 fades.

Will they pile on bets to the point that a new asset bubble forms and -- as happened with mortgage-backed securities -- its undoing endangers banks and the broader economy?

"We're seeing the same kind of behavior from the banks, and that could lead to some huge and scary parallels," says Simon Johnson, former chief economist with the International Monetary Fund.

Some risk-taking is good.

When banks are willing to invest in companies or lend to home-buyers, that nurtures economic growth by generating employment and consumer spending, feeding a cycle of expansion.

The problem is when banks' quest for profits leads them to take on too much risk.

In the case of the housing bubble, which burst last year, banks lent too freely to consumers with weak credit and wagered too much on complex financial instruments tied to mortgages.

As real-estate prices turned south, so did the financial industry's health.

Because the largest banks' trading divisions make their bets with each other, their fortunes are intertwined.

The collapse of one can threaten another -- and another -- if it is unable to pay off its debts.


This so-called counterparty risk is a major reason the Obama administration's regulatory overhaul plan calls for the creation of a "systemic risk regulator."

The administration is also seeking tougher capital requirements for banks, arguing that banks' buying of exotic financial products without keeping enough cash on reserve was a key cause of the crisis.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has urged the Group of 20 nations -- which meets this month in Pittsburgh -- to agree on new capital levels by the end of 2010 and put them in place two years later.

Geithner hasn't said how much extra capital banks should be required to keep on hand.

Data from the April-June quarter show that the banks are leaning heavily again on their trading desks for revenue.

-- During the fourth quarter of 2008, when the financial crisis made even the shrewdest bankers risk-averse, Goldman's trading of risky assets nearly stopped.

But in the second quarter of 2009, trading revenue had climbed to nearly 50 percent of total revenue, closer to where it was two years ago before the recession began.

JP Morgan's reliance on trading revenue has exhibited a similar pattern.

-- Also in the second quarter, the five biggest banks' average potential losses from a single day of trading topped $1 billion, up 76 percent from two years ago, according to regulatory filings.

The government hasn't just watched banks resume their freewheeling ways and prosper.

It has been an enabler in the process.


The Federal Reserve, the Treasury Department and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. -- during both the Bush and Obama administrations -- have made trillions of dollars available to the biggest banks through bailouts, low-cost loans and loss guarantees designed to stabilize the financial system.

The failure of Lehman Brothers -- the biggest bankruptcy in U.S. history -- and the panicky sales of Bear Stearns to JPMorgan and Merrill Lynch to Bank of America, also have transformed Wall Street.

The surviving investment banks have fewer competitors and more market share.

Five of the biggest banks -- Goldman, JPMorgan, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Bank of America -- posted second-quarter profits totaling $13 billion.

That's more than double what they made in the second quarter of 2008 and nearly two-thirds as much as the $20.7 billion they earned in the second quarter of 2007 -- when the economy was strong.

Meanwhile, Bank of America and Wells Fargo today originate 41 percent of all home loans that are backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, according to Inside Mortgage Finance.

The banks made $284 billion in such loans in the first half of this year, up from $124 billion during the same period last year.

"The big banks now are more powerful than before," said Johnson, now a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Sloan School of Management.

"Their market share has grown and they have a lot of clout in Washington."


Wall Street's recovery is also being aided by a stock-market rally that has driven the S&P 500 index up nearly 54 percent since March 9, when it hit a 12-year low.

Despite the return to profitability, these aren't the high-octane days from before the crisis.

To qualify for government backing, the biggest Wall Street firms are no longer allowed to supercharge their returns by borrowing up to 30 times the value of their assets to place bets on stocks, bonds and other investments.

Businesses supported by Wall Street bankers and traders say they've also noticed changes.

Namely, their customers aren't spending as much on food, drinks and entertainment as they did during the boom years.

At Fraunces Tavern, a high-end bar just around the corner from the New York Stock Exchange, the Wall Street workers who used to drink $25 glasses of port are scarce these days.

"Now we're doing happy hours," says Damon Testaverde, one of the owners of Fraunces Tavern.

"We never did that."

"There's just less bodies around."

But one thing fundamental to Wall Street hasn't changed:

Big banks and their traders are still finding creative -- some say speculative -- ways to profit.

They're still packaging risky mortgages into securities and selling them to investors, who can earn higher returns by purchasing the securities tied to the riskiest mortgages.


That was the practice that helped inflate the real estate bubble and eventually spread financial pain around the globe.

In a way, the government has emboldened banks to keep selling risky securities:

Since the crisis erupted, federal emergency programs have helped keep the banks from failing.


But now, as the financial system recovers, the government plans to phase out these backstops -- leaving banks more vulnerable to big bets that go bad.

One investment gaining popularity is a direct descendant of the mortgage-backed securities that devastated many banks last year.

To get some lesser performing assets off their books, banks are taking slices of bonds made up of high-risk mortgage securities and pooling them with slices of bonds comprised of low-risk mortgage securities.

With the blessing of debt ratings agencies, banks are then selling this class of bonds as a low-risk investment.


The market for these products has hit $30 billion, according to Morgan Stanley.

"It may be unpleasant to hear that the traders are riding high," said Walter Bailey, chief executive of boutique merchant banking firm EpiGroup.

"But, hey, it's a pay-for-performance thing, and they're performing like mad."

And that means the return of another Wall Street mainstay: Lavish compensation.

After 10 of the largest banks received a $250 billion lifeline from the government last fall, some lawmakers were outraged that employees were being paid seven-figure salaries even though their companies nearly collapsed.

A handful of top executives, including Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit, have agreed to accept pay of just $1 this year.

But the compensation of most high-performing traders hasn't changed.

Goldman spent $6.6 billion in the second quarter on pay and benefits, 34 percent more than two years ago.

And Citigroup, now one-third owned by the government after taking $45 billion in federal money, owes a star energy trader $100 million.

The CEO of Goldman, Lloyd Blankfein, said at a banking conference in Germany last week that excessive banker pay works "against the public interest."

He said bonuses are important to attract and retain top talent, but "misapplied, they can also encourage excess."

The Obama administration has proposed measures to diminish the risk posed by large banks.

They include forcing banks to hold more capital to cover losses and trying to increase the transparency of markets in which banks trade the most complex -- and potentially risky -- financial products.

One major component of the Obama plan -- creating an agency to oversee the marketing of financial products to consumers -- will be difficult to pass in Congress.

Industry lobbying against it and other proposed financial rules has been fierce.

Lobbyists for hedge funds, the large investment pools that cater to the rich, have been able to fend off proposals that would require them to register with the SEC and regularly disclose their holdings.

And they, too, are profitable again after a dismal 2008.

The 1,000 largest hedge funds in Morningstar's database posted average returns of 11.9 percent through July.

In 2008, those same funds lost 22 percent on average.

"Have there been changes around the edges?" says Timothy Brog, portfolio manager of New York-based hedge fund Locksmith Capital.

"Absolutely."

"Have their been systematic changes?"

"Absolutely not."
Indianhead
From my emailed News Bulletin this a.m.:

ABC World News said that "this weekend showed the divide in the healthcare debate looms large:
At least 60,000 people marched on the Capitol, complaining Mr. Obama is trying to change too much
too fast." NBC Nightly News said that "White House officials were unfazed by the protests."
Obama adviser David Axelrod was shown saying, "I don't think we ought to be distracted by that.
My message to them is: they're wrong."

Oh, is this going to bite them in the keyster.
And, it seems those favorite anecdotal examples of evil insurance companies
aren't exactly what they are represented to be...much less as frequent:


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...emEditorialPage

OPINION SEPTEMBER 13, 2009, 10:54 P.M. ET

Fact-Checking the President on Health Insurance
His tales of abuse don't stand scrutiny.


By SCOTT HARRINGTON

In his speech to Congress last week, President Barack Obama attempted to sell a reform agenda
by demonizing the private health-insurance industry, which many people love to hate. He opened
the attack by asserting: "More and more Americans pay their premiums, only to discover that their
insurance company has dropped their coverage when they get sick, or won't pay the full cost of care.
It happens every day."

Clearly, this should never happen to anyone who is in good standing with his insurance company
and has abided by the terms of the policy. But the president's examples of people "dropped" by
their insurance companies involve the rescission of policies based on misrepresentation or concealment
of information in applications for coverage. Private health insurance cannot function if people buy insurance
only after they become seriously ill, or if they knowingly conceal health conditions that might affect their policy.


Traditional practice, governed by decades of common law, statute and regulation is for insurers to rely in
underwriting and pricing on the truthfulness of the information provided by applicants about their health,
without conducting a costly investigation of each applicant's health history. Instead, companies engage in a
certain degree of ex post auditing—conducting more detailed and costly reviews of a subset of applications
following policy issue—including when expensive treatment is sought soon after a policy is issued.

This practice offers substantial cost savings and lower premiums compared to trying to verify every
application before issuing a policy, or simply paying all claims, regardless of the accuracy and completeness
of the applicant's disclosure. Some states restrict insurer rescission rights to instances where the misrepresented
or concealed information is directly related to the illness that produced the claim. Most states do not.


To highlight abusive practices, Mr. Obama referred to an Illinois man who "lost his coverage in the middle
of chemotherapy because his insurer found he hadn't reported gallstones that he didn't even know about."
The president continued: "They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it."

Although the president has used this example previously, his conclusion is contradicted by the transcript
of a June 16 hearing on industry practices before the Subcommittee of Oversight and Investigation of the
House Committee on Energy and Commerce
. The deceased's sister testified that the insurer reinstated her
brother's coverage following intervention by the Illinois Attorney General's Office. She testified that her
brother received a prescribed stem-cell transplant within the desired three- to four-week "window of opportunity"
from "one of the most renowned doctors in the whole world on the specific routine," that the procedure
"was extremely successful," and that "it extended his life nearly three and a half years."


The president's second example was a Texas woman "about to get a double mastectomy when her
insurance company canceled her policy because she forgot to declare a case of acne." He said that
"By the time she had her insurance reinstated, her breast cancer more than doubled in size."

The woman's testimony at the June 16 hearing confirms that her surgery was delayed several months.
It also suggests that the dermatologist's chart may have described her skin condition as precancerous,
that the insurer also took issue with an apparent failure to disclose an earlier problem with an irregular
heartbeat, and that she knowingly underreported her weight on the application.

These two cases are presumably among the most egregious identified by Congressional staffers'
analysis of 116,000 pages of documents
from three large health insurers, which identified a total
of about 20,000 rescissions from millions of policies issued by the insurers over a five-year period.
Company representatives testified that less than one half of one percent of policies were rescinded
(less than 0.1% for one of the companies).

If existing laws and litigation governing rescission are inadequate, there clearly are a variety
of ways that the states or federal government could target abuses without adopting the president's
agenda for federal control of health insurance, or the creation of a government health insurer.

Later in his speech, the president used Alabama to buttress his call for a government insurer to
enhance competition in health insurance. He asserted that 90% of the Alabama health-insurance market
is controlled by one insurer, and that high market concentration "makes it easier for insurance companies
to treat their customers badly—by cherry-picking the healthiest individuals and trying to drop the sickest;
by overcharging small businesses who have no leverage; and by jacking up rates."

In fact, the Birmingham News reported immediately following the speech that the state's largest
health insurer, the nonprofit Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Alabama, has about a 75% market share.
A representative of the company indicated that its "profit" averaged only 0.6% of premiums the
past decade, and that its administrative expense ratio is 7% of premiums, the fourth lowest among
39 Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans nationwide
.

Similarly, a Dec. 31, 2007, report by the Alabama Department of Insurance indicates that the insurer's
ratio of medical-claim costs to premiums for the year was 92%, with an administrative expense ratio
(including claims settlement expenses) of 7.5%. Its net income, including investment income, was
equivalent to 2% of premiums in that year.


In addition to these consumer friendly numbers, a survey in Consumer Reports this month reported
that Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Alabama ranked second nationally in customer satisfaction among
41 preferred provider organization health plans. The insurer's apparent efficiency may explain its dominance,
as opposed to a lack of competition—especially since there are no obvious barriers to entry or expansion
in Alabama faced by large national health insurers such as United Healthcare and Aetna.

Responsible reform requires careful analysis of the underlying causes of problems in health insurance
and informed debate over the benefits and costs of targeted remedies. The president's continued
demonization of private health insurance in pursuit of his broad agenda of government expansion
is inconsistent with that objective.

Mr. Harrington is professor of health-care management and insurance and risk management at the
University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School and an adjunct scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

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Wonder why 85% of people with health insurance are happy with it?
Or, why the UAW is pushing Obama-care?:


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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/health/p...y/09insure.html

The Work-Up
Bristling at Health Plan to Cover Early Retirees

By STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Published: September 9, 2009

Within the battle over President Obama’s health care overhaul, critics of organized labor
have latched onto a little-noticed provision in the legislation already circulating in Congress.
The provision would cost $10 billion in federal money to subsidize employer-sponsored health
plans covering early retirees
, as a bridge to Medicare.

Labor’s critics assert that the provision, aimed at retirees ages 55 to 64, is a Democratic
payback to unions and would further drive up the federal deficit.

“It looks like it’s just a big giveaway of $10 billion to bail out a bunch of unionized companies,”
said Gregory Mourad, director of legislation for the National Right to Work Committee, a nonprofit
group that often battles organized labor. “It’s part of a Christmas list of giveaways to unions.”

But supporters deny that the provision is a sop to labor, saying it would help stabilize the health
insurance system and would benefit union and nonunion retirees alike, as well as their employers.
Backers include the United Automobile Workers, the United Steelworkers and the A.F.L.-C.I.O.

Variations of this program have been approved by the three House committees that have adopted
health bills, and by the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

It is not clear whether the provision will be included in whatever bill the Senate Finance Committee
may eventually come up with, under the chairmanship of Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana.
Under the provision, the federal government would pay as much as $10 billion to cover 80 percent
of the cost of an early retiree’s medical claims of more than $15,000, with a cap at $90,000

at which point the employer’s plan would pay the rest.

The plan, which is called the temporary catastrophic reinsurance program by many of its backers,
would in essence subsidize employer plans whenever they paid for an unexpectedly costly medical event.

Supporters say the program will cover all employer-sponsored group health plans — whether a
unionized health plan for steelworkers; a state, county or municipal plan for retired firefighters;
or a corporate plan for white-collar retirees.

Most significant to the U.A.W., it would also cover the health care trusts, known as VEBAs —
voluntary employee beneficiary associations — set up for Detroit’s autoworkers. The plan
would help extend the life of these trusts before they pay out all their assets for health care.


“It has the potential to make a lot of key employers and unions pretty happy,” said John Sheils,
of the Lewin Group, a health care consulting firm.

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, the nation has 5.8 million retirees ages 55 to 64,
and 3.3 million of them have employer-sponsored coverage. Health experts say no one knows
how many were union members.

Supporters of the proposed program say it would help stabilize the financing of early retiree plans
until the recession ends and until the full impact of a health care overhaul takes effect a few years
down the road, assuming Congress does pass some form of health legislation.

The subsidies, supporters say, will help employers’ balance sheets and also preserve health
coverage for those who retire before age 65, when Medicare coverage begins.

Alan Reuther, the U.A.W.’s legislative director, said the program would help persuade employers
not to terminate health coverage for early retirees. If those plans are terminated, many early retirees
will lose their coverage, and if that happens, he said, many early retirees will join the new regional
insurance exchanges that Mr. Obama wants to set up as part of his reform package, something
Mr. Reuther said could end up costing the government more money.

“This plan is trying to encourage private employers, state and local governments and VEBAs to keep
providing coverage to early retirees because that’s better for them,” Mr. Reuther said.
“If they stop providing coverage, and you’re on your own and you go into an exchange, that’s bad
for the exchange because a bunch of high-cost people are going into the exchange. That will push up
rates for everybody else, and that will cost the government more
.”

Supporters say the provision resembles one passed in 2003 when Congress created the Medicare Part D
program to subsidize prescription drugs for older Americans; it took effect in 2006.

In that case, the government gave sizable subsidies to employers that offered coverage to help finance
prescriptions for retirees. The goal was to discourage those employers from terminating those programs,
which would have saddled the government and seniors with higher costs.

Mr. Reuther said the proposed reinsurance program was not specifically intended to help unionized retirees.
“I’ve seen Fox News types saying this is a union provision,” he said. “It has little to do with unions. It’s open
to any plan that has early retirees.”


But Mr. Mourad disagreed. “With the current administration,” he said, “I have a funny feeling we’ll see union-covered
plans given a lot more of that $10 billion.”


Unionized companies are more likely than nonunion ones to offer health coverage to early retirees.
Forty-six percent of large companies with unionized employees offer retiree benefits, Kaiser says,
compared with 24 percent for those without union workers. Over all, 31 percent of companies
with more than 200 workers offer coverage to early retirees, down from 66 percent in 1988.


Many governors, mayors and county executives favor the provision because it would transfer some
of their health care costs when they face huge strains.

“We welcome this effort to help cities and towns meet some of their financial obligations for retirees
who are not yet eligible for Medicare — and that often can be police and firefighters,” said Neil Bomberg,
a lobbyist for the National League of Cities. “This would certainly save hundreds of millions of dollars for
many cities and towns, and that would be very significant.”

Mr. Sheils voiced concern that the program would not help the neediest, but instead early retirees with
employer benefits. He said he was worried that Washington would be pressured to spend billions more
as soon as the first $10 billion ran out
.

Having done calculations on how rapidly the $10 billion would be spent, Mr. Sheils said: “We found that
the money would be gone in just a little bit over one year. Wouldn’t you expect them to push to extend it?”


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...as a retired law enforcement officer...this stuff would allow me to stop working now, rather than at 65...
reduce my taxes and my insurance cost...but, we simply can not afford it...no matter how it would benefit me.
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