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Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out

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http://usgovinfo.about.com/blgunlaws.htm


Gun Control in Congress
Legislation of interest to firearm owners

The following firearms-related bills may be debated and voted on during the first session of the 107th U.S. Congress which convenes on Jan. 3, 2001.

• S. 906 Instant Check Gun Tax Repeal and Gun Owner Privacy Act of 2001 (Sponsored by Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyoming)

CRS Summary: (Not yet prepared by Congressional Research Service) The bill amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act by requiring the destruction of records of qualified gun buyers generated during background checks. The bill also prohibits the imposition of any fees or taxes in relationship to performing Brady Act gun buyer background checks. {See: Gun Buyers' Rights Bill Introduced]

Current Status: Referred to the Senate Committee on the Judiciary.

• S. 767 Gun Show Background Check Act of 2001 - A bill to extend the Brady background checks to gun shows, and for other purposes. (Sponsored by Sen. Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island)

CRS Summary: (Not yet prepared by Congressional Research Service) The bill amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prevent persons with criminal backgrounds now prohibited from buying firearms in stores from doing so at guns shows, flea markets, and other organized events. [See: New Bill to Close ‘Gun Show Loophole’]

Current Status: Referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

• S. 25 Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2001 - A bill to provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms. (Sponsored by Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA))

CRS Summary: Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a State system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Secretary to establish and maintain a Federal record of sale system.

Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Secretary within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Secretary an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowing or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.

Current Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary on Jan. 22, 2001

• S. 2099 A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require the registration of handguns:

Amends chapter 53 (Machine Guns, Destructive Devices, and Certain Other Firearms) of the Internal Revenue Code to, among other things:

* require the registration of handguns in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record;
* provide for the sharing of registration information with Federal, State and local law enforcement agencies;
* provide for the imposition of the five dollar transfer tax on handguns and a $50 tax upon the making of each handgun.

Current Status: The has was referred to the Senate Finance Committee on Feb. 24, 2000

Prospects for Final Enactment: Very Poor -- President-Elect Bush has indicated the he supports stronger enforcement of existing firearms laws over enactment of sweeping new laws, such as S. 2099.

Clearly this is "the" bill to watch as it would establish a limited system of national firearms registration and tax gun ownership. However, there are some misconceptions about the law.

* The law would not require handguns to be listed on income tax returns
* The law would be enforced by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, not the IRS
* The law cannot be enacted by the Senate Finance Committee. It must be passed by both the Senate and the House and then signed by the president, just like any other bill.

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Indianhead


An email received today:

*Scary what the new administration is trying to do to back door the right to own arms!!! Can't take away our guns so make the price of AMMO so outrageous that the average person can't keep themselves armed properly!! Dan*

*Subject:* FW: Breaking news

*_Georgia Arms_ is the 5^th largest retailer of .223 Ammo in America.
(they sell 9 mm, .45, etc ammo)*

*They normally buy spent brass from the **US** Dept of Defense – ‘one time used’ shell casings by our Military – from training on Military bases, etc. They buy the brass and then re-load for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Shops, Gun Clubs, Wal-Mart, and etc.*

*They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time. *

*_This week_** the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and said that from now on the DoD will be destroying the brass – shredding it. It is no longer available to the Ammo makers – unless they just buy it in a /scrap shredded/ condition (which they have No use for). The shredded brass is NOW going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap metal....after the DoD pays for it to be shredded. The DoD is selling the brass to China for less money than Ammo manufacturers have been paying...plus the DoD has to pay to have the brass shredded and do all the accounting paperwork. That sure helps the US economy now, doesn’t it? Sell cheaper to China – and do not sell shells at all to a proven US business. Any agenda working here???? Obama going after our ammunition!!!!!*

*The **Georgia** Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week – and the DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell Casings he had already bought! THE BRASS HAS NO VALUE TO THE AMMO MAKER IF IT IS DESTROYED/SHREDDED/MELTED.
THE AMMO MANUFACTURER ONLY USES THE EMPTY BRASS SHELLS TO RELOAD DIFFERENT CALIBERS - MAINLY .223 BULLETS.*

*Georgia Arms owner says that he will have to lay off at least Half of his 60 workers, within 2 – 3 months if the DoD no longer sells their spent brass to him. He has 2 – 3 months inventory of shells to use. By summer - he’s out. If he has to buy new manufactured brass shells, then the cost of ammunitioin to the buyer will double and triple...plus Obama wants to add a 500% tax on each shell. *

*You can read the info and see the DoD letter to **Georgia** Arms here:*

*The Shootist Site*

*http://www.theshootist.net/*

*Georgia** Arms Site:*

*http://georgia-arms.com/*

*Loss of US jobs, control of ammunition by the new Obama administration....liberalism at its best and on the way to socialism.
When times get bad...and they will very soon...only the bad will have guns and ammo. This new "Obomanation" is going to make good citizens into crinimals by trying to take our guns and ammo.
*
Don't vouch for it...just offering what I got...in a very busy day...
tazvil04
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Mar 23 2009, 10:59 AM) *
An email received today:

*Scary what the new administration is trying to do to back door the right to own arms!!! Can't take away our guns so make the price of AMMO so outrageous that the average person can't keep themselves armed properly!! Dan*

*Subject:* FW: Breaking news

*_Georgia Arms_ is the 5^th largest retailer of .223 Ammo in America.
(they sell 9 mm, .45, etc ammo)*

*They normally buy spent brass from the **US** Dept of Defense – 'one time used' shell casings by our Military – from training on Military bases, etc. They buy the brass and then re-load for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Shops, Gun Clubs, Wal-Mart, and etc.*

*They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time. *

*_This week_** the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and said that from now on the DoD will be destroying the brass – shredding it. It is no longer available to the Ammo makers – unless they just buy it in a /scrap shredded/ condition (which they have No use for). The shredded brass is NOW going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap metal....after the DoD pays for it to be shredded. The DoD is selling the brass to China for less money than Ammo manufacturers have been paying...plus the DoD has to pay to have the brass shredded and do all the accounting paperwork. That sure helps the US economy now, doesn't it? Sell cheaper to China – and do not sell shells at all to a proven US business. Any agenda working here???? Obama going after our ammunition!!!!!*

*The **Georgia** Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week – and the DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell Casings he had already bought! THE BRASS HAS NO VALUE TO THE AMMO MAKER IF IT IS DESTROYED/SHREDDED/MELTED.
THE AMMO MANUFACTURER ONLY USES THE EMPTY BRASS SHELLS TO RELOAD DIFFERENT CALIBERS - MAINLY .223 BULLETS.*

*Georgia Arms owner says that he will have to lay off at least Half of his 60 workers, within 2 – 3 months if the DoD no longer sells their spent brass to him. He has 2 – 3 months inventory of shells to use. By summer - he's out. If he has to buy new manufactured brass shells, then the cost of ammunitioin to the buyer will double and triple...plus Obama wants to add a 500% tax on each shell. *

*You can read the info and see the DoD letter to **Georgia** Arms here:*

*The Shootist Site*

*http://www.theshootist.net/*

*Georgia** Arms Site:*

*http://georgia-arms.com/*

*Loss of US jobs, control of ammunition by the new Obama administration....liberalism at its best and on the way to socialism.
When times get bad...and they will very soon...only the bad will have guns and ammo. This new "Obomanation" is going to make good citizens into crinimals by trying to take our guns and ammo.
*
Don't vouch for it...just offering what I got...in a very busy day...


Isn't this a free market capitalism country?

Shouldn't teh almighty dollar determine what happens with this stuff?

If the "reload" market will provide more dollars for the same stuff -- than the Chinese will -- then why not let the "reload" market get the stuff...

I have no problem with that...but if they are not willing to pay as much as China - then our government should recoup whatever money they can...IMHO...

One would think with our debt running as it is...if we can make more money selling to China...why would anyone object?
Indianhead
Taz: We are buying and borrowing from China not selling...

Meanwhile here's the real dangerous bill...not the above referenced ones...


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?b...amp;tab=summary

Congressional Research Service Summary
The following summary was written by the Congressional Research Service, a well-respected
nonpartisan arm of the Library of Congress. GovTrack did not write and has no control over these summaries.

1/6/2009--Introduced.

Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.

Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.
Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.

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If you want to make federal authorities "the enemy" just pass this as is...HR 45
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