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First, Stop the Hemorrhaging
Rev. Jesse Jackson, 05.30.2009

Clearly, the hemorrhaging of jobs is outpacing the stimulus. We need a new, comprehensive strategy, a bailout plan that is connected directly to reinvesting in and reindustrializing America.

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billfmsd
I'd agree with Jesse Jackson except that we've priced ourselves out of the manufacturing market. He's correct that our productivity is going away, but the emphasis needs to shift towards keeping and building our mental labor productivity. Creativity, intellectual property, and information-based product's are our strengths.

Our physical labor productivity is being made obsolete between robotics and 3rd-world cheap labor. The only thing we can do to slow the obsoleting is to lobby for the global elimination of cheap labor through education and global labor unions. We could also replace some of those manufacturing jobs with robotic design, engineering and maintenance jobs.
rla
QUOTE(billfmsd @ May 30 2009, 04:23 PM) *
I'd agree with Jesse Jackson except that we've priced ourselves out of the manufacturing market. He's correct that our productivity is going away, but the emphasis needs to shift towards keeping and building our mental labor productivity. Creativity, intellectual property, and information-based product's are our strengths.

Our physical labor productivity is being made obsolete between robotics and 3rd-world cheap labor. The only thing we can do to slow the obsoleting is to lobby for the global elimination of cheap labor through education and global labor unions. We could also replace some of those manufacturing jobs with robotic design, engineering and maintenance jobs.


I agree with the generalization you are making Bill but I wonder if you are over applying it? I don't think we can turn our back on the very large number of relatively uneducated citizens in this country that need a job. I agree that
tax money should not go into developing large scale manufacturing operations. However most new jobs emerge
in small business operations, whether they are service oriented or manufacturing. I do think there is a need for expanding small manufacturing operations that hire less than 100 employees...
jeffmoskin
QUOTE(billfmsd @ May 30 2009, 02:23 PM) *
I'd agree with Jesse Jackson except that we've priced ourselves out of the manufacturing market. He's correct that our productivity is going away, but the emphasis needs to shift towards keeping and building our mental labor productivity. Creativity, intellectual property, and information-based product's are our strengths.

Our physical labor productivity is being made obsolete between robotics and 3rd-world cheap labor. The only thing we can do to slow the obsoleting is to lobby for the global elimination of cheap labor through education and global labor unions. We could also replace some of those manufacturing jobs with robotic design, engineering and maintenance jobs.

US manufacturing still exists for large items (Deere and CAT are doing okay, as is GE). 40 years of cutbacks on education has not left us with a highly educated workforce, other than burgers and dry cleaning.

But Americans are very innovative entrepreneurs. I say put some money into the "last mile" of fiber and perhaps people will figure it out on their own. The future is the web, and it started in America.
rla
QUOTE(jeffmoskin @ May 31 2009, 01:35 AM) *
QUOTE(billfmsd @ May 30 2009, 02:23 PM) *
I'd agree with Jesse Jackson except that we've priced ourselves out of the manufacturing market. He's correct that our productivity is going away, but the emphasis needs to shift towards keeping and building our mental labor productivity. Creativity, intellectual property, and information-based product's are our strengths.

Our physical labor productivity is being made obsolete between robotics and 3rd-world cheap labor. The only thing we can do to slow the obsoleting is to lobby for the global elimination of cheap labor through education and global labor unions. We could also replace some of those manufacturing jobs with robotic design, engineering and maintenance jobs.

US manufacturing still exists for large items (Deere and CAT are doing okay, as is GE). 40 years of cutbacks on education has not left us with a highly educated workforce, other than burgers and dry cleaning.

But Americans are very innovative entrepreneurs. I say put some money into the "last mile" of fiber and perhaps people will figure it out on their own. The future is the web, and it started in America.


The Web is in the future but the future is the combination (integration) of high tech and high touch. This will require real education--not the warehousing approach that presently prevails...
jeffmoskin
QUOTE(rla @ May 31 2009, 05:47 AM) *
The Web is in the future but the future is the combination (integration) of high tech and high touch. This will require real education--not the warehousing approach that presently prevails...

The students will have to teach themselves, for the teachers are schooled in the past.
billfmsd
QUOTE(jeffmoskin @ May 31 2009, 10:00 AM) *
QUOTE(rla @ May 31 2009, 05:47 AM) *
The Web is in the future but the future is the combination (integration) of high tech and high touch. This will require real education--not the warehousing approach that presently prevails...
The students will have to teach themselves, for the teachers are schooled in the past.
They will still need teachers. Students will know better how to teach themselves technology, but they won't know better how to apply that technology.
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rla
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ May 31 2009, 02:54 PM) *
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