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Indianhead
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/

June 4th, 2009
NJ Gov: Christie +13 In First Post-Primary Poll

Posted by Mike Memoli

Fresh off his primary victory Tuesday night, former U.S. Attorney Chris Christie ®
boasts a double-digit lead over Gov. Jon Corzine (D), according to a new Rasmussen
poll released today. He now surpasses the 50 percent threshold, after falling just short
in a poll last month before he won the nomination.

General Election Matchup
Christie 51 (+4 from 5/12)
Corzine 38 (unch)

Job Approval:
Obama 60/40
Corzine 42/58

Another big warning sign for Corzine: 41 percent of voters strongly disapprove of his job performance,
and 37 percent have a "very unfavorable" opinion of him.

Favorability
Corzine 41/58
Christie 56/35

The poll finds that by double-digit margins, New Jersey voters favor Christie over the incumbent when it
comes to taxes (+15), cutting government spending (+23) and fighting corruption (+27).
But when asked who they think will win the election, respondents had an interesting response: 43 percent said Christie,
while 41 percent said Corzine.

The poll was conducted June 3, surveying 500 likely voters, and had a margin of error of +/- 4.5 percent.

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I also saw the former DNC Chairman is in a fight for his life for governor in VA. Is there a disconnect in
Democratic support on the state level? Is that where a tide could turn? I don't know, but I'm watching it.

I suppose it is the shift of debt to states as a result of the huge federal spending on bail-outs, job losses
(unemployment checks and income tax losses), more food stamps, less sales taxes and lower property values
(property tax base).

I do not relish Republicans any more than big government Democrats...but if a center is to be
found...there needs to be some competition, IMHO. Do I sound like a Blue Dog? yes2.gif
Arneoker
You ask that question like to answer "yes" to it would be silly, as if of course Corzine's troubles could not be disconnected from national politics. But why couldn't they be? Corzine has his own distinct record, and New Jersey has its own distinct issues.

As far as Virginia goes, yes it is true that Terry McAuliffe, former DNC Chair, seems to be in trouble in his quest to become governor of our State. But let me instruct you in something that kind of changes everything. He is in trouble in the Democratic Primary to be held next Tuesday, June 9. He is facing two opponents, Brian Moran, from Northern Virginia, and Creigh Deeds, from Bath County, which is out in the mountainous Western part of the state.

BTW, I am not impressed with McAuliffe myself. I was planning on voting for Moran, but may end up voting for Deeds as right now he may have the best chance to beat McAuliffe. The three candidates are actually saying pretty much the same things on the issues, but Moran and Deeds have actually been active in Virginia politics and government for a while now. I didn't know that McAuliffe even lived in Virginia until I heard he was interested in running for Governor.
Indianhead
Makes sense to me...but I am watching this stuff... and Corzine is trying with a wage freeze plan.

Besides any state that has a Lingerie Bowl can't be all bad.

graham4anything
governorships are not being fought very hard

for some reason the national party seems to have forgotten that this is a census year and not taking it seriously

but Jon Corzine is not very popular to start off with, and voters wanted acting gov. Codey to remain Gov, but he went
back to the actually more powerful statejob he had

Corzine's auto accident while going 90 MPH showed arrogance, and little snipply things (OP knows about that)
get people riled up

Bill Bradley had 80% popularity, but his allofness almost got him beat in his race against ChristieBitchWhitman, the liar
but in the end he won by less than 1% in a race he should have won by 20

However, polls in NJ are meaningless. Its what happens election day, and FatChrsitie(one of the most vile despicable
unlikeable a-holes ever to be in New Jersey ) will not win.

Lanigan might have pulled an upset but not for FatChrstie's negative ad campaign

and btw-this poll is similiar to other polls before the primaries, the lead and amount. If this is all Christie can get, he is
in deep, deep trouble.


as for Virginia, let's hope GoofyGrinMcAuliffe comes in 3rd place, he is a vile despicable person too, with pockets full of hands (oops is that a gun or are you happy to see me Terry)
graham4anything
in recent times though, there have been more republican gov's of NJ than dem's.

NJ is a big state, though southerners would have no idea, and just have stereotypes in their heads

One thing is similiar between NJ and NY and Louisiana though-they have cops that shoot to kill black people without even flinching
Arneoker
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Jun 4 2009, 04:10 PM) *
as for Virginia, let's hope GoofyGrinMcAuliffe comes in 3rd place, he is a vile despicable person too, with pockets full of hands (oops is that a gun or are you happy to see me Terry)

That might just happen, but I would not bet the farm on it. Now it would just suit me just fine. We should know in less than six days...
graham4anything
QUOTE(Arneoker @ Jun 4 2009, 04:14 PM) *
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Jun 4 2009, 04:10 PM) *
as for Virginia, let's hope GoofyGrinMcAuliffe comes in 3rd place, he is a vile despicable person too, with pockets full of hands (oops is that a gun or are you happy to see me Terry)

That might just happen, but I would not bet the farm on it. Now it would just suit me just fine. We should know in less than six days...



it would send a large and loud message to defeat him-for one thing, I don't see how in any way he is qualified to
be a governor, I could see a cabinet position had Hillary won(that would have been a definite), but Gov???

I hope either of the other two win
(though I do hope it remains democratic any way in Nov.)
Indianhead
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Jun 4 2009, 03:12 PM) *
in recent times though, there have been more republican gov's of NJ than dem's.

NJ is a big state, though southerners would have no idea, and just have stereotypes in their heads

One thing is similiar between NJ and NY and Louisiana though-they have cops that shoot to kill black people without even flinching


It's not "big" just got a bunch of folks stacked on top of each other.
And..."sterotypes"????? Read your last line again. Is that kettle black?
Arneoker
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Jun 4 2009, 04:56 PM) *
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Jun 4 2009, 03:12 PM) *
in recent times though, there have been more republican gov's of NJ than dem's.

NJ is a big state, though southerners would have no idea, and just have stereotypes in their heads

One thing is similiar between NJ and NY and Louisiana though-they have cops that shoot to kill black people without even flinching


It's not "big" just got a bunch of folks stacked on top of each other.
And..."sterotypes"????? Read your last line again. Is that kettle black?

Graham says a lot of outrageous things, but strictly speaking, is he wrong on that? What he said was at least partially true, and maybe completely true. And his statement here does not necessarily mean that all or even most cops do such things. Now he might jump up and say that indeed they do so. If he did then one could say THAT was outrageous.

And NJ is a big state, in terms of people, and individual people have the same value everywhere, whether they live in sparsely populated Alaska above the Arctic Circle or live in crowded Manhatten, where btw, my wife and I both have cousins.
believe_it
From the homepage http://www.christiefornj.com/


Chris's cases that made a difference,

QUOTE
http://www.christiefornj.com/cases-that-ma...ild-pornography

Regpay - Child Pornography

The prosecution of Regpay was the very first of its kind in U.S. history done to combat the evils of the global child pornography trade. A Belarus-based enterprise ran an Internet child pornography business operated with impunity and obscurity via the Internet from their safe-haven in Minsk, which is notoriously indifferent to child pornography enterprises.

With no treaty or cooperation from the Belarusian government, federal agents were able to arrest the key players in Paris on a ruse that they were meeting individuals for business purposes. Another was arrested while vacationing in Spain.

The case had many tentacles, one of which was a company called Regpay, whose principals made millions through processing credit card payments for access to 50 child pornography websites. It used a Florida-based credit card billing company to launder the money. These websites had tens of thousands of subscribers worldwide who fueled the demand for child exploitation, abuse and pornography.

Securing the cooperation from major credit card companies, the US Attorney's Office identified 40,000 domestic subscribers. Leads on many thousands more outside the U.S. were shared via Interpol with authorities worldwide.

More than 1,500 arrests worldwide were made, including about 350 in the U.S. Publicity was intense here and abroad as leads led to arrests of doctors, teachers, government officials and others who subscribed to the child porn sites. Among those arrested in New Jersey were at least three convicted sex offenders, a campus minister, church youth coordinator and an 85-year-old retired engineer.

All nine of the Regpay defendants pleaded guilty, including the two lead defendants on the eve of jury selection. The 27-year-old Regpay president and his 30-year-old technical administrator were each sentenced to 25 years in prison. Importantly, this case and others like it have had a deterrent effect because potential subscribers know the credit card companies will not fight to protect their privacy or identities in these kinds of illegal purchases.

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QUOTE
http://www.christiefornj.com/cases-that-ma...dentistry-of-nj

University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ

Medicaid Overbilling, Deferred Prosecution, Monitorship

Initially an investigation into purposeful double billing of $4.9 million in Medicaid reimbursements, the US Attorney's office's involvement with the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey became far more extensive. The ongoing efforts revealed far more in systemic waste, fraud and abuse that had gone on for years at UMDNJ and its divisions throughout the state.

The result was the discovery of $400 million in misspent, misappropriated and mismanaged funding to the university. The university and its divisions were rife with political cronyism. No-bid contracting and hiring practices were often based upon the strength of the applicants' political connections.

In one five year period, cost reports at UMDNJ were estimated to be off by more than $35 million, resulting in tens of millions of dollars in taxpayer dollars that could not be adequately accounted for. Excessive travel and entertainment expenses were the norm. No-bid contracts resulted in $22.6 million in unauthorized or inappropriate spending in only four years.

The University agreed to enter into a Deferred Prosecution Agreement (DPA) and monitorship which gave the monitor wide investigatory and reform powers. Numerous firings occurred of individuals involved in the fraud and abuse. After the removal of two members, the Board of Trustees was expanded to 18 to include an appropriate mix of educational, medical, legal, business and other professionals. This investigation led to the indictment of state Sen. Wayne Bryant and Michael Gallagher, also described on this website.


QUOTE
"...Above all, I am committed to protecting the most vulnerable in our society. As U.S. Attorney, I took an unprecedented stand against child pornography and human trafficking - breaking up criminal rings around the world. These crimes are not only despicable, they erode the moral fiber of our society and cannot be tolerated. As Governor, my vested interest in protecting those that are unable to fight for themselves will continue with a forceful hand."


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http://www.christiefornj.com/on-the-issues...ernment-reform/

Government Reform

New Jersey's current political and governmental system is a stacked deck in favor of special interests, with middle-class taxpayers getting the short end of the stick. It's time to change the rules of the game to restore the public's trust and ensure greater accountability for taxpayers who are paying the tab.

New Jersey citizens deserve to have a trustworthy government that merits their confidence - it is time to regain that faith.

ELIMINATE THE LEGISLATURE'S CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

Change ethics laws to require strict disclosure

Under current interpretations of New Jersey's legislative ethics policy, members of the Legislature are allowed to have private sector and outside income that create conflicts of interest - apparent or justified - when they vote on or sponsor legislation that directly affects the source(s) of their income. Lawmakers who have private land developer clients, for example, are allowed to sponsor and vote on land use legislation. Legislators who are paid by organized labor unions are allowed to sponsor and vote on legislation that directly affects organized labor.

It is important to maintain a citizen-legislature, but legislative ethics policy should be strengthened to include a requirement that members either recuse themselves from actions that affect their private sector interests, or that they publicly disclose these conflicts when they occur.

The new policy will be tailored to affect those occasions when the legislator knowingly has a private sector interest that will be affected by the legislative matter at hand.

With these disclosures, the public would be able to accurately monitor whether legislators' private income is affected by their actions as members of the Legislature. The public should not have to rely solely on law enforcement agencies to uncover these ties in connection with the occasional criminal investigation. Christie will strengthen ethics laws by ensuring the transparency necessary to restore confidence in the legislative branch of government is in place.

Eliminate dual office-holding

Citizens are rightfully upset that many New Jersey politicians hold multiple elected positions that often cause conflicts of interest with one another. "Grandfathering" these conflicts for current dual office-holders in the Legislature, as was previously done, was unfortunate and wrong.

Chris Christie will eliminate dual office-holding by proposing immediate changes to state law.

Eliminate dual public employment

Chris Christie will ban the practice of one person holding a full time government job while also holding a salaried elected position. Public servants should only serve one constituency at a time; the public has a right to expect undivided loyalty and service from their representatives.

Eliminate blatant conflicts of interest on New Jersey's boards and commissions

Many of New Jersey's boards and commissions, especially the ones that spend tax money, have members that have inherent conflicts of interest. The New Jersey Turnpike Authority, Transportation Trust Fund Authority, and the State Investment Council are examples of agencies on whose boards sit private contractors or their representatives, labor union officials, and investment bankers that directly benefit from decisions of the very agencies. The members of these boards and agencies should represent taxpayers, not the special interests who benefit from the agencies' spending and decisions.

As Governor, in order to eliminate these obvious conflicts of interests, Chris Christie will adhere to this policy when making appointments to boards and commissions. Christie will not create boards and commissions where the memberships create new conflicts of interest.

In addition, statutory changes may also be needed to remove the special interests from some of the agencies.
graham4anything
I proudly voted in the primary for Jon Corzine

He's a good man.

Though he is not as great as Mike Bloomberg, but then most people ain't
believe_it
QUOTE
http://www.christiefornj.com/about

About Chris




Chris Christie has a deep affection and strong commitment to New Jersey. Born in Newark and raised in Livingston, Chris has lived in New Jersey his entire life. Chris and his wife of 22 years, Mary Pat, now reside in Mendham, where they are raising their four children, Andrew, Sarah, Patrick and Bridget. After graduating from the University of Delaware in 1984 with a BA degree, Chris attended Seton Hall University School of Law, earning his JD degree in 1987. Chris joined a Cranford law firm and soon was named a partner. He ran for Freeholder in Morris County, an office he held from 1995 to 1997, serving as Director of the Board in 1997.

Christie was appointed U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey in 2002. As the chief federal law enforcement officer in New Jersey, Christie earned praise from leaders in both parties and drew national attention for his efforts in battling political corruption, corporate crime, human trafficking, gangs, terrorism and polluters. Christie led a widely acclaimed charge against public corruption. Regardless of party affiliation or political influence, when laws were broken, Christie took action. His office racked up an astonishing record - winning convictions or guilty pleas from over 130 public officials - both Republican and Democrat - without losing a single case.

The New York Times said Christie "won widespread admiration for his aggressive fight against political corruption." And The Bergen Record wrote: "All New Jerseyans owe him a huge debt of gratitude for refusing to accept this state's sleazy status quo."

Upon Christie's resignation on December 1, 2008, every major newspaper in the state applauded his term as New Jersey's US Attorney. The Philadelphia Inquirer wrote: "Christie has already done more good for New Jersey than some previous governors. His office successfully prosecuted more than 130 public officials. And it has not lost a single corruption case." And in a story headlined "Christie rewrote the book on prosecuting corruption," Bob Braun of the Newark Star-Ledger concluded, "Christie…was creative, too - and aggressive."

As Governor, Christie's strong leadership and common-sense approach will bring the change New Jersey needs. The hallmarks of his tenure as US Attorney - eliminating waste and fraud, increasing governmental transparency, restoring honesty to government and returning hard-earned dollars to taxpayers - will be Chris's focus as Governor in Trenton.
graham4anything
he is republican. That makes him corrupt in itself.
Indianhead
QUOTE(Arneoker @ Jun 4 2009, 04:12 PM) *
Graham says a lot of outrageous things, but strictly speaking, is he wrong on that? What he said was at least partially true, and maybe completely true. And his statement here does not necessarily mean that all or even most cops do such things. Now he might jump up and say that indeed they do so. If he did then one could say THAT was outrageous.

And NJ is a big state, in terms of people, and individual people have the same value everywhere, whether they live in sparsely populated Alaska above the Arctic Circle or live in crowded Manhatten, where btw, my wife and I both have cousins.


If Graham is your measure...okay...and your cousins are family...respected.
And...if your believe SMSAs are what we should follow...cool...grow your food...
serve your financial statistics...and governmental support. I have no problem with those
who live and die with their politically correct philosophy...just don't tax others for your vision.

Don't ask for my produce for your philosophy....and I'm cool. The system is weak...unsustainable.
BWTF do I know....I'm eating well...and if those who demand to tax it want to come get it...
well come...I expect and am prepared for it. They shouldn't have drafted me. But, they did.

Ask me to feed your family and I will. Demand it...and you had better bring your A game.

IMHO Corzine is toast, BWTF do I know?

believe_it
The majority of NJ voters would be voting against their views on wedge issues by supporting Christie, so, to that extent, the election may resemble
'What's The Matter With Kansas? (Blue State Version)'
without all the partisan stereotyping (eg. Republicans are villians and Democrats are pure) - now that's a book in search of an author. The challenge will be sorting out the truth from the spin and prioritizing issues, saving some fights until after the election and keeping in mind that some Democrats fit the description of dastardly Republicans below. It ain't the label anymore.

QUOTE
http://tcfrank.com/books/whats-the-matter-with-kansas-2/[/url]

What's the matter with America? What explains the dysfunction at the dark heart of our politics?

Over the last thirty-five years the Republicans have transformed themselves from an aristocratic minority into the nation's dominant political party, a brawling, beer-drinking buddy of the working man. The strategy by which they have won this triumph is instantly familiar and yet so bizarre it's sometimes hard to believe it's actually happened: Think of Richard Nixon extolling the virtues of the "silent majority," or Ronald Reagan shaking his head at those crazy college professors, or George W. Bush sticking up for the "regular Americans," or the army of pundits who have written so eloquently in recent months about the humble folk of the "red states."

And then think of the political changes that this sappy stuff has helped to sell: Privatization. Deregulation. Monopolies in every industry from banking to radio to meatpacking. The destruction of the welfare state. The beatdown of the labor movement. The transformation of the Midwest into the rust belt. And, shimmering in the heavens above all this, the rise of a new plutocracy, a class of overlords so taken with their own magnificence that they are moved to compare themselves to the Almighty.

What we are observing, then, is a populist movement that has done irreversible harm to the material interests of the common people it professes to love so tenderly-a form of class animosity that rages against a shadowy "elite" while enthroning a new aristocracy of bankers, brokers, and corporate thieves.

In the burned-over districts of conservatism the right-wing class war grown so powerful that it has taken over the environmental niche once held by the left. It is the dissenting movement out there, the voice of the hard-done-by, and in places like Kansas it draws headlines with its high-profile campaigns against evolution and abortion.

This is what's the matter with Kansas, and with America. From the air-conditioned heights of a suburban office complex this may look like a new age of reason, with the Websites singing each to each, with a mall down the way that every week has miraculously anticipated our subtly shifting tastes, with a global economy whose rich rewards just keep flowing, with a promotion and a bonus every year, and with a long parade of rust-free Infinitis purring down the streets of beautifullymanicured planned communities. But on closer inspection the country we have inhabited for the last three decades seems more like a panorama of madness and delusion worthy of Hieronymous Bosch: of sturdy patriots reciting the Pledge while they resolutely strangle their own life chances; of small farmers proudly voting themselves off the land; of devoted family men carefully seeing to it that their children will never be able to afford college or proper health care; of hardened blue-collar workers in midwestern burgs cheering as they deliver up a landslide for a candidate whose policies will end their way of life, will transform their region into a "rust belt," will strike people like them blows from which they will never recover.

Some kind words about What's the Matter With Kansas?


"When I read Thomas Frank, I hear a faint bugle in the background. It's the cavalry-to-the-rescue call: There you are, surrounded by Republicans-outmanned, outgunned, and damn near out of both ammunition and humor-when up shows Thomas Frank. A heartland populist, Frank is hilariously funny on what makes us red-staters different from blue-staters (not), and he actually knows evangelical Christians, antiabortion activists, gun-nuts, and Bubbas. I promise y'all, this is the only way to understand why so many Americans have decided to vote against their own economic and political interests. And Frank explores the subject with scholarship, understanding, passion, and-thank you, Mark Twain-such tart humor." — Molly Ivins

"This is the true story of how conservatives punk'd a nation. Tom Frank has stripped the right-wing hustle to its core: It is bread and circuses-only without bread. Written like poem, every line in its perfect place, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" is the best new book I've read in years, on any subject." — Rick Perlstein, author of "Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of American Consensus"

"What's the Matter with Kansas?" is the most insightful analysis of American right-wing pseudopopulism to come along in the last decade. As for Kansas: However far it's drifted into delusion, you've got to love a state that could produce someone as wickedly funny, compassionate, and non-stop brilliant as Tom Frank." — Barbara Ehrenreich, author of "Nickel and Dimed"

"A wise reporter and a splendid wit; Tom Frank understands the grassroots Right as well as anyone in America. He is the second coming of H. L. Mencken-but with much better politics." — Michael Kazin, author of "The Populist Persuasion: An American History"

"Frank combines top-flight journalism with first-person reflections to dig deep into the Kansas psyche. Both exhilarating and a little scary, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" should help flat-landers and coastal types alike understand how traditional Republicanism gave way to the politics of the Christian Right in the heart of the heart of the country." — Burdett Loomis, professor and chair, Department of Political Science at the University of Kansas

"A fire-and-brimstone essay on false consciousness on the Great Plains. 'The poorest county in America . . . is on the Great Plains, a region of struggling ranchers and dying farm towns,' writes native Kansan and Baffler founding editor Frank, 'and in the election of 2000 the Republican candidate for president, George W. Bush, carried it by a majority greater than 80 percent.' How, Frank wonders, can it be that such a polity-honest toilers descended from free-soil, abolitionist progressives and prairie socialists-could back such a man who showed little concern then and has showed little concern since for the plight of the working class? And how can it be that such a place would forget its origins as a hotbed of what the historian Walter Prescott Webb called 'persistent radicalism,' as the seedbed of Social Security and of agrarian reform, to side with the bosses, to back an ideology that promises the destruction of the liberal state's social-welfare safety net? Whatever the root causes, many of which seem to have something to do with fear and loathing of big-city types and ethnic minorities, Kansas voters-and even the Vietnam vets among them-seem to have picked up on the mantra that the 'snobs on the coasts' are the enemy, and that Bush ('a man so ham-handed in his invocations of the Lord that he occasionally slips into blasphemy') and company are friends and deliverers . . . Even so, he sees the tiniest ray of hope for modern progressives: after all, he notes, the one Kansas county that sports a NASCAR track went for Al Gore in 2000. A bracing, unabashedly partisan, and very smart work of red-state trendspotting." — Kirkus Reviews

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graham4anything
QUOTE(believe_it @ Jun 5 2009, 07:28 AM) *
The majority of NJ voters would be voting against their views on wedge issues by supporting Christie, so, to that extent, the election may resemble
'What's The Matter With Kansas? (Blue State Version)'
without all the partisan stereotyping (eg. Republicans are villians and Democrats are pure) - now that's a book in search of an author. The challenge will be sorting out the truth from the spin and prioritizing issues, saving some fights until after the election and keeping in mind that some Democrats fit the description of dastardly Republicans below. It ain't the label anymore.

QUOTE
http://tcfrank.com/books/whats-the-matter-with-kansas-2/[/url]

What's the matter with America? What explains the dysfunction at the dark heart of our politics?

Over the last thirty-five years the Republicans have transformed themselves from an aristocratic minority into the nation's dominant political party, a brawling, beer-drinking buddy of the working man. The strategy by which they have won this triumph is instantly familiar and yet so bizarre it's sometimes hard to believe it's actually happened: Think of Richard Nixon extolling the virtues of the "silent majority," or Ronald Reagan shaking his head at those crazy college professors, or George W. Bush sticking up for the "regular Americans," or the army of pundits who have written so eloquently in recent months about the humble folk of the "red states."

And then think of the political changes that this sappy stuff has helped to sell: Privatization. Deregulation. Monopolies in every industry from banking to radio to meatpacking. The destruction of the welfare state. The beatdown of the labor movement. The transformation of the Midwest into the rust belt. And, shimmering in the heavens above all this, the rise of a new plutocracy, a class of overlords so taken with their own magnificence that they are moved to compare themselves to the Almighty.

What we are observing, then, is a populist movement that has done irreversible harm to the material interests of the common people it professes to love so tenderly-a form of class animosity that rages against a shadowy "elite" while enthroning a new aristocracy of bankers, brokers, and corporate thieves.

In the burned-over districts of conservatism the right-wing class war grown so powerful that it has taken over the environmental niche once held by the left. It is the dissenting movement out there, the voice of the hard-done-by, and in places like Kansas it draws headlines with its high-profile campaigns against evolution and abortion.

This is what's the matter with Kansas, and with America. From the air-conditioned heights of a suburban office complex this may look like a new age of reason, with the Websites singing each to each, with a mall down the way that every week has miraculously anticipated our subtly shifting tastes, with a global economy whose rich rewards just keep flowing, with a promotion and a bonus every year, and with a long parade of rust-free Infinitis purring down the streets of beautifullymanicured planned communities. But on closer inspection the country we have inhabited for the last three decades seems more like a panorama of madness and delusion worthy of Hieronymous Bosch: of sturdy patriots reciting the Pledge while they resolutely strangle their own life chances; of small farmers proudly voting themselves off the land; of devoted family men carefully seeing to it that their children will never be able to afford college or proper health care; of hardened blue-collar workers in midwestern burgs cheering as they deliver up a landslide for a candidate whose policies will end their way of life, will transform their region into a "rust belt," will strike people like them blows from which they will never recover.

Some kind words about What's the Matter With Kansas?


"When I read Thomas Frank, I hear a faint bugle in the background. It's the cavalry-to-the-rescue call: There you are, surrounded by Republicans-outmanned, outgunned, and damn near out of both ammunition and humor-when up shows Thomas Frank. A heartland populist, Frank is hilariously funny on what makes us red-staters different from blue-staters (not), and he actually knows evangelical Christians, antiabortion activists, gun-nuts, and Bubbas. I promise y'all, this is the only way to understand why so many Americans have decided to vote against their own economic and political interests. And Frank explores the subject with scholarship, understanding, passion, and-thank you, Mark Twain-such tart humor." — Molly Ivins

"This is the true story of how conservatives punk'd a nation. Tom Frank has stripped the right-wing hustle to its core: It is bread and circuses-only without bread. Written like poem, every line in its perfect place, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" is the best new book I've read in years, on any subject." — Rick Perlstein, author of "Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of American Consensus"

"What's the Matter with Kansas?" is the most insightful analysis of American right-wing pseudopopulism to come along in the last decade. As for Kansas: However far it's drifted into delusion, you've got to love a state that could produce someone as wickedly funny, compassionate, and non-stop brilliant as Tom Frank." — Barbara Ehrenreich, author of "Nickel and Dimed"

"A wise reporter and a splendid wit; Tom Frank understands the grassroots Right as well as anyone in America. He is the second coming of H. L. Mencken-but with much better politics." — Michael Kazin, author of "The Populist Persuasion: An American History"

"Frank combines top-flight journalism with first-person reflections to dig deep into the Kansas psyche. Both exhilarating and a little scary, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" should help flat-landers and coastal types alike understand how traditional Republicanism gave way to the politics of the Christian Right in the heart of the heart of the country." — Burdett Loomis, professor and chair, Department of Political Science at the University of Kansas

"A fire-and-brimstone essay on false consciousness on the Great Plains. 'The poorest county in America . . . is on the Great Plains, a region of struggling ranchers and dying farm towns,' writes native Kansan and Baffler founding editor Frank, 'and in the election of 2000 the Republican candidate for president, George W. Bush, carried it by a majority greater than 80 percent.' How, Frank wonders, can it be that such a polity-honest toilers descended from free-soil, abolitionist progressives and prairie socialists-could back such a man who showed little concern then and has showed little concern since for the plight of the working class? And how can it be that such a place would forget its origins as a hotbed of what the historian Walter Prescott Webb called 'persistent radicalism,' as the seedbed of Social Security and of agrarian reform, to side with the bosses, to back an ideology that promises the destruction of the liberal state's social-welfare safety net? Whatever the root causes, many of which seem to have something to do with fear and loathing of big-city types and ethnic minorities, Kansas voters-and even the Vietnam vets among them-seem to have picked up on the mantra that the 'snobs on the coasts' are the enemy, and that Bush ('a man so ham-handed in his invocations of the Lord that he occasionally slips into blasphemy') and company are friends and deliverers . . . Even so, he sees the tiniest ray of hope for modern progressives: after all, he notes, the one Kansas county that sports a NASCAR track went for Al Gore in 2000. A bracing, unabashedly partisan, and very smart work of red-state trendspotting." — Kirkus Reviews

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No, you are mistaken in a big way here.

NJ'ers are for the most part independent.
If not mistaken, for big states, NJ is the most independent of all.
And (surprise, surprise) NJ is one of the most anti-tax states
which republicans use to their advantage.

I think unofficially there are 40%independent, and it is split depending on area, between the other two.
NOW, due to the closed primary, many independents pick a party(mostly republican) to vote in the primary, for the lower people running
and school board elections

School is divied up different in New Jersey, than say NY
every little town has their own board, and their own property tax rates

and taxes (while appearing high, so its a big wedge issue, in reality, due to other things, Jersey is cheapeer to live in than New York, but pays thousands a year more in taxes (while say, gas is 50cents a gallon cheaper).

So republicans exploit that.

And mostly have a republican gov. (and in reality, though, the republicans that win run as moderates even if they are not (Kean, Whitman,etc.)

So a great person like Jim Florio is doomed from the start.
And the real power is in the state senate and assembly, so a great person like Codey would rather be there than run on his own (he became Gov. after McGreevey left temporarily, but did not run for a full term, going back to his own job.)

I really don't think NJ is a bellwether for any other state, its an outlier.
tazvil04
QUOTE(Arneoker @ Jun 4 2009, 01:26 PM) *
You ask that question like to answer "yes" to it would be silly, as if of course Corzine's troubles could not be disconnected from national politics. But why couldn't they be? Corzine has his own distinct record, and New Jersey has its own distinct issues.

As far as Virginia goes, yes it is true that Terry McAuliffe, former DNC Chair, seems to be in trouble in his quest to become governor of our State. But let me instruct you in something that kind of changes everything. He is in trouble in the Democratic Primary to be held next Tuesday, June 9. He is facing two opponents, Brian Moran, from Northern Virginia, and Creigh Deeds, from Bath County, which is out in the mountainous Western part of the state.

BTW, I am not impressed with McAuliffe myself. I was planning on voting for Moran, but may end up voting for Deeds as right now he may have the best chance to beat McAuliffe. The three candidates are actually saying pretty much the same things on the issues, but Moran and Deeds have actually been active in Virginia politics and government for a while now. I didn't know that McAuliffe even lived in Virginia until I heard he was interested in running for Governor.


Christie seems like a white knight because of his record as a US Attorney...but once the people of New Jersey get to know him and understand that his knowledge and abilities are severely limited compared with those of Jon Corzine...the favorable polls numbers will dip...

If you think Christie is such a powerhouse, then why did a no name mayor from North Jersey garner more than 40% of the vote?

Christie will have a lot of problems in the general election.

First, he is Mr. Politician...he came to be US Attorney with zero criminal practica experience...as a Bush appointee

Second, Bush had him on the chopping block to be removed as a US Attorney because he was no prosecuting enough Democrats so he increased that and his office leaked information regarding Sen. Robert Menendez during the campaign which seemed to clearly politicize the office.

Third, his big issue is ethics...but his no-bid contracts to John Ashcroft and I think his brother too...just seems like more pay to play politicis...and business as usual.

So Christie is still a long shot no matter what the polls say IMHO.
Arneoker
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Jun 4 2009, 07:59 PM) *
QUOTE(Arneoker @ Jun 4 2009, 04:12 PM) *
Graham says a lot of outrageous things, but strictly speaking, is he wrong on that? What he said was at least partially true, and maybe completely true. And his statement here does not necessarily mean that all or even most cops do such things. Now he might jump up and say that indeed they do so. If he did then one could say THAT was outrageous.

And NJ is a big state, in terms of people, and individual people have the same value everywhere, whether they live in sparsely populated Alaska above the Arctic Circle or live in crowded Manhatten, where btw, my wife and I both have cousins.


If Graham is your measure...okay...


Actually he is not, but I don't use a different ruler to measure him, either to his benefit or harm, just because he is Graham.

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And...if your believe SMSAs are what we should follow...cool...


No, my notion is even more outrageous than that. I think we should "follow"...wait for it because this will outrage the true believers of every ideology in existence...PEOPLE! Yes I believe that serving people is not the most important purpose in politics, it is the only thing in politics, the only factor. Or at least it should be. Yes, all of that is more important than free marketry, the sacredness of the Republic, conservatism, liberalism, socialism, all of that. Now some of that is valuable, to the extent that it can serve and be sufficiently bent for people.

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grow your food...serve your financial statistics...and governmental support. I have no problem with those
who live and die with their politically correct philosophy...just don't tax others for your vision.


Unless you are Grover Norquist trying to live by any political philosophy is a sure route to starvation.

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IMHO Corzine is toast, BWTF do I know?


About as much as anyone 2,000 miles from the situation I would think.
Arneoker
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Don't ask for my produce for your philosophy....and I'm cool. The system is weak...unsustainable.


No, I think we all have other things to trade. Philosophies can be had for less than a penny. Any philosophy. Talk is cheap and a lot of us are very profuse with it, yours truly included.

As far as the system goes, you mean the free market system we have? Hmm...Do you think that an essentially strong, healthy man loses that state whenever he suffers from the flu?

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BWTF do I know....I'm eating well...and if those who demand to tax it want to come get it...
well come...I expect and am prepared for it. They shouldn't have drafted me. But, they did.

Ask me to feed your family and I will. Demand it...and you had better bring your A game.


I think you may be watching too many movies or TV shows, or reading too many books of a particular sort.
tazvil04
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Jun 4 2009, 05:59 PM) *
QUOTE(Arneoker @ Jun 4 2009, 04:12 PM) *
Graham says a lot of outrageous things, but strictly speaking, is he wrong on that? What he said was at least partially true, and maybe completely true. And his statement here does not necessarily mean that all or even most cops do such things. Now he might jump up and say that indeed they do so. If he did then one could say THAT was outrageous.

And NJ is a big state, in terms of people, and individual people have the same value everywhere, whether they live in sparsely populated Alaska above the Arctic Circle or live in crowded Manhatten, where btw, my wife and I both have cousins.


If Graham is your measure...okay...and your cousins are family...respected.
And...if your believe SMSAs are what we should follow...cool...grow your food...
serve your financial statistics...and governmental support. I have no problem with those
who live and die with their politically correct philosophy...just don't tax others for your vision.

Don't ask for my produce for your philosophy....and I'm cool. The system is weak...unsustainable.
BWTF do I know....I'm eating well...and if those who demand to tax it want to come get it...
well come...I expect and am prepared for it. They shouldn't have drafted me. But, they did.

Ask me to feed your family and I will. Demand it...and you had better bring your A game.

IMHO Corzine is toast, BWTF do I know?


IH -- I think that Arne hits the nail on the head...you know about as much about the situation in NJ as any person who is 2,000 miles away from the situation...

Christie is a weak candidate.

Right now people are supporting him in polls because he is largely an unknown and the status quo is being rejected by them right now...

But Christie gave up 40% points to a little known former mayor of a North Jersey town...

He has been going ultra-conservative which does not reflect NJ values...

He is anti-stem cell research -- anti-gay marriage -- and anti-abortion...which is not how the people of NJ feel...they agree with him on one issue -- gay marriage and just barely...

Christie, once his feet are put to the fire, will have to answer a lot of questions...

He has barely any money...

And he is going up against someone who has a ton of money...whose popularity is likely to increase as Christie's wanes...
tazvil04
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Jun 5 2009, 06:11 AM) *
QUOTE(believe_it @ Jun 5 2009, 07:28 AM) *
The majority of NJ voters would be voting against their views on wedge issues by supporting Christie, so, to that extent, the election may resemble
'What's The Matter With Kansas? (Blue State Version)'
without all the partisan stereotyping (eg. Republicans are villians and Democrats are pure) - now that's a book in search of an author. The challenge will be sorting out the truth from the spin and prioritizing issues, saving some fights until after the election and keeping in mind that some Democrats fit the description of dastardly Republicans below. It ain't the label anymore.

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http://tcfrank.com/books/whats-the-matter-with-kansas-2/[/url]

What's the matter with America? What explains the dysfunction at the dark heart of our politics?

Over the last thirty-five years the Republicans have transformed themselves from an aristocratic minority into the nation's dominant political party, a brawling, beer-drinking buddy of the working man. The strategy by which they have won this triumph is instantly familiar and yet so bizarre it's sometimes hard to believe it's actually happened: Think of Richard Nixon extolling the virtues of the "silent majority," or Ronald Reagan shaking his head at those crazy college professors, or George W. Bush sticking up for the "regular Americans," or the army of pundits who have written so eloquently in recent months about the humble folk of the "red states."

And then think of the political changes that this sappy stuff has helped to sell: Privatization. Deregulation. Monopolies in every industry from banking to radio to meatpacking. The destruction of the welfare state. The beatdown of the labor movement. The transformation of the Midwest into the rust belt. And, shimmering in the heavens above all this, the rise of a new plutocracy, a class of overlords so taken with their own magnificence that they are moved to compare themselves to the Almighty.

What we are observing, then, is a populist movement that has done irreversible harm to the material interests of the common people it professes to love so tenderly-a form of class animosity that rages against a shadowy "elite" while enthroning a new aristocracy of bankers, brokers, and corporate thieves.

In the burned-over districts of conservatism the right-wing class war grown so powerful that it has taken over the environmental niche once held by the left. It is the dissenting movement out there, the voice of the hard-done-by, and in places like Kansas it draws headlines with its high-profile campaigns against evolution and abortion.

This is what's the matter with Kansas, and with America. From the air-conditioned heights of a suburban office complex this may look like a new age of reason, with the Websites singing each to each, with a mall down the way that every week has miraculously anticipated our subtly shifting tastes, with a global economy whose rich rewards just keep flowing, with a promotion and a bonus every year, and with a long parade of rust-free Infinitis purring down the streets of beautifullymanicured planned communities. But on closer inspection the country we have inhabited for the last three decades seems more like a panorama of madness and delusion worthy of Hieronymous Bosch: of sturdy patriots reciting the Pledge while they resolutely strangle their own life chances; of small farmers proudly voting themselves off the land; of devoted family men carefully seeing to it that their children will never be able to afford college or proper health care; of hardened blue-collar workers in midwestern burgs cheering as they deliver up a landslide for a candidate whose policies will end their way of life, will transform their region into a "rust belt," will strike people like them blows from which they will never recover.

Some kind words about What's the Matter With Kansas?


"When I read Thomas Frank, I hear a faint bugle in the background. It's the cavalry-to-the-rescue call: There you are, surrounded by Republicans-outmanned, outgunned, and damn near out of both ammunition and humor-when up shows Thomas Frank. A heartland populist, Frank is hilariously funny on what makes us red-staters different from blue-staters (not), and he actually knows evangelical Christians, antiabortion activists, gun-nuts, and Bubbas. I promise y'all, this is the only way to understand why so many Americans have decided to vote against their own economic and political interests. And Frank explores the subject with scholarship, understanding, passion, and-thank you, Mark Twain-such tart humor." — Molly Ivins

"This is the true story of how conservatives punk'd a nation. Tom Frank has stripped the right-wing hustle to its core: It is bread and circuses-only without bread. Written like poem, every line in its perfect place, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" is the best new book I've read in years, on any subject." — Rick Perlstein, author of "Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of American Consensus"

"What's the Matter with Kansas?" is the most insightful analysis of American right-wing pseudopopulism to come along in the last decade. As for Kansas: However far it's drifted into delusion, you've got to love a state that could produce someone as wickedly funny, compassionate, and non-stop brilliant as Tom Frank." — Barbara Ehrenreich, author of "Nickel and Dimed"

"A wise reporter and a splendid wit; Tom Frank understands the grassroots Right as well as anyone in America. He is the second coming of H. L. Mencken-but with much better politics." — Michael Kazin, author of "The Populist Persuasion: An American History"

"Frank combines top-flight journalism with first-person reflections to dig deep into the Kansas psyche. Both exhilarating and a little scary, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" should help flat-landers and coastal types alike understand how traditional Republicanism gave way to the politics of the Christian Right in the heart of the heart of the country." — Burdett Loomis, professor and chair, Department of Political Science at the University of Kansas

"A fire-and-brimstone essay on false consciousness on the Great Plains. 'The poorest county in America . . . is on the Great Plains, a region of struggling ranchers and dying farm towns,' writes native Kansan and Baffler founding editor Frank, 'and in the election of 2000 the Republican candidate for president, George W. Bush, carried it by a majority greater than 80 percent.' How, Frank wonders, can it be that such a polity-honest toilers descended from free-soil, abolitionist progressives and prairie socialists-could back such a man who showed little concern then and has showed little concern since for the plight of the working class? And how can it be that such a place would forget its origins as a hotbed of what the historian Walter Prescott Webb called 'persistent radicalism,' as the seedbed of Social Security and of agrarian reform, to side with the bosses, to back an ideology that promises the destruction of the liberal state's social-welfare safety net? Whatever the root causes, many of which seem to have something to do with fear and loathing of big-city types and ethnic minorities, Kansas voters-and even the Vietnam vets among them-seem to have picked up on the mantra that the 'snobs on the coasts' are the enemy, and that Bush ('a man so ham-handed in his invocations of the Lord that he occasionally slips into blasphemy') and company are friends and deliverers . . . Even so, he sees the tiniest ray of hope for modern progressives: after all, he notes, the one Kansas county that sports a NASCAR track went for Al Gore in 2000. A bracing, unabashedly partisan, and very smart work of red-state trendspotting." — Kirkus Reviews

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No, you are mistaken in a big way here.

NJ'ers are for the most part independent.
If not mistaken, for big states, NJ is the most independent of all.
And (surprise, surprise) NJ is one of the most anti-tax states
which republicans use to their advantage.

I think unofficially there are 40%independent, and it is split depending on area, between the other two.
NOW, due to the closed primary, many independents pick a party(mostly republican) to vote in the primary, for the lower people running
and school board elections

School is divied up different in New Jersey, than say NY
every little town has their own board, and their own property tax rates

and taxes (while appearing high, so its a big wedge issue, in reality, due to other things, Jersey is cheapeer to live in than New York, but pays thousands a year more in taxes (while say, gas is 50cents a gallon cheaper).

So republicans exploit that.

And mostly have a republican gov. (and in reality, though, the republicans that win run as moderates even if they are not (Kean, Whitman,etc.)

So a great person like Jim Florio is doomed from the start.
And the real power is in the state senate and assembly, so a great person like Codey would rather be there than run on his own (he became Gov. after McGreevey left temporarily, but did not run for a full term, going back to his own job.)

I really don't think NJ is a bellwether for any other state, its an outlier.


You are off slightly...

New Jersey in 2006 had 59.1% of its voters noted as "unaffiliated" not independent...

However, this changed greatly last February when unaffiliated voters in order to be able to vote for Barack Obama in the 2008 primary designated themselves as Democrats.

Also, in 07/08 -- results had NJ Democrats with a 36% to 21% lead over Republicans..which is different from the split you suggest...this margin increased with the number of unaffiliated voters declaring themselves Democrats...

Also, Jon Corzine who was running unopposed basically for Governor...secured a fairly strong turnout for running unopposed...he received 148,000 Democratic votes compared to Christie who received 181,000 and Lonnegan who received 139,000...

There is no doubt the unaffiliated voters will play a role in the outcome of the election in November...but for people to think they can pick the result now...is pretty foolish...IMHO...
graham4anything
I predict Corzine by a few
like Bradley/Whitman 20 years ago

Corzine as underdog will help too

when Corzine puts Christie in pix with Bush and other scandals

and, there may be a 3rd party ultra conservative who will chip off votes too(we can hope)

Corzine is flawed right now, but he also has advantage in financial matters
tazvil04
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Jun 5 2009, 08:58 AM) *
I predict Corzine by a few
like Bradley/Whitman 20 years ago

Corzine as underdog will help too

when Corzine puts Christie in pix with Bush and other scandals

and, there may be a 3rd party ultra conservative who will chip off votes too(we can hope)

Corzine is flawed right now, but he also has advantage in financial matters


Right...I think Christie'a opponent had it right when he attacked him saying he had never created a job in his life...

Corzine has created thousands of jobs through his work with Goldman Sachs...though that may not necessarily be the right angle to take...
believe_it
Two cases don't make a trend, but don't count on the usual this November (or in 2010 in IL). Christie and Madigan are compelling figures, even to a progressive like me. The issue of their background is one of many, of course, but it is far from trivial. In fact, it trumps IB hands down for me.

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http://www.protect.org/Newswire/Illinois/S...-candidate.html

Friday, 05 June 2009

DuPage County prosecutor Joe Birkett wants to be the next Governor of Illinois, but he's got a strange way of showing it!

Birkett, who was elected State's Attorney in 1996, took time out from the campaign trail to offer a stunning sweetheart sentence to a Naperville, Illinois man arrested with hundreds of thousands of movies and photos of children being sexually assaulted and displayed.

The Naperville Daily Herald reports that Schmitz pled guilty and agreed to a plea bargain offer of 30 months probation. "Prosecutors will seek at least six months of jail at his sentencing," says the paper.

A 2008 press release said the Schmitz investigation involved the Naperville Police Department, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service and one of Illinois' two Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) task forces. The ICAC is headed by Attorney General Lisa Madigan, who is widely-rumored to be a likely opponent to Birkett in the 2010 Governor's race.

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graham4anything
Madigan should be in jail for abuse of Blago

she is self serving and an opportunist and deserves nothing but being jobless

I still see no crime committed by Blago, and it was a flagrant abuse of power by both Madigan and Patrick Fitz.
Indianhead
JUNE 8, 2009, 4:45 P.M. ET

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124449350357395397.html
GOP Takes Control of N.Y. Senate as 2 Lawmakers Flip


Associated Press

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Republicans appear to have retaken control of New York's Senate after two dissident Democrats jumped the aisle.
The flip of senators Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens gives Republicans a 32-30 edge in the chamber.
Within an hour of the overthrow, Republicans named Mr. Espada temporary president of the Senate and Dean Skelos of Nassau County
vice president and majority leader. Mr. Skelos is the former majority leader.

Those are the most powerful positions in the chamber. With them, the bipartisan coalition can direct legislation and reassign committee
and leadership posts.

Democrats tried to leave the chamber, even turning off the lights briefly. Rofl2.gif They are expected to challenge Monday's action in court.
Copyright © 2009 Associated Press

graham4anything
illegalities, figures you like when they cheat (just like Hillary tried to do, just like your bushie bush did)
you can't win, so you cheat.
like the redistricting in Texas.
(of course, Louisiana has an entire history of no good cheaters that went to jail, or should of,
besides, where else in America did they ethnically cleanse and lose an entire big city?


where honor is not known.
Rofl2.gif
Indianhead
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aIOrVHVtZLE0

N.Y. Senate in Battle as Republicans Assert Control

By Michael Quint

June 10 (Bloomberg) -- New York Governor David Paterson urged that a dispute over state Senate leadership be resolved by opening the chamber and settling the issue with a vote even as Democrats said they will go to court to block a change of power.

Legislative control in New York, the third-largest U.S. state, came into question June 8 after Republicans enlisted two Democratic lawmakers and mustered the 32 votes needed to recapture the Senate. They named Senator Dean Skelos, of Rockville Centre, Long Island, as majority leader, the position he held until the Democratic majority was established following the election in November.

Senator Malcolm Smith, a Democrat from the New York City borough of Queens, said he remains the majority leader, and the Republican moves are invalid. Secretary of the Senate Angelo Aponte, who controls the keys to the chamber, declined to resign yesterday

“The purported coup was an unlawful violation of New York state law and the Senate rules and we do not accept it,” said Austin Shafran, spokesman for Smith. “The Senate majority is fully prepared to go back to the people’s work, but will not enter the chamber to be governed by unlawful rules. We plan to file an action for a temporary injunction to enjoin the Republicans from illegitimately usurping authority from the people of New York.”

Earlier Paterson, a Democrat, pledged to work with whoever leads the Senate. “I am urging all the leaders of the Senate to get back to the chamber,” Paterson said at a press conference in Albany.

Keeping it Locked

Paterson said he would not physically force open the Senate doors, which Democrats have threatened to keep locked until Smith reconvenes the chamber. The Republican-led coalition that voted to depose Smith has called for the Senate to resume today at 3 p.m. New York time.

Skelos said the leadership change was valid. If Senate Democrats want to reconvene and vote again, “the results will be the same,” he said June 8.

Paterson said he talked with Smith about reopening the Senate and voting on the leadership issue, and will meet with Skelos today. Another vote would resolve whether the previous decision was properly reached, Paterson said.

Smith has declined to say when he would reconvene the Senate. “The chamber is not going to be open,” Travis Proulx, another Smith spokesman, said after Paterson spoke today.

Scheduled Session End

The Legislature is scheduled to end its work June 22, though that session could be extended. Paterson also might call lawmakers to return to Albany later in the year.

The hiatus leaves local governments, including New York City, waiting for legal authority to raise taxes they need to balance their budgets. Paterson complained that the battle stalls progress on legislation he wants to cap state spending, curb property tax increases by local governments and allow same sex marriages.

If Senate Democrats attempt to keep the chamber locked, as it was yesterday while adjourned, the new leadership says it will be prepared.

‘There is no constitutional requirement that we’ll meet in that room,” said Senator Pedro Espada, a Democrat from the New York City borough of the Bronx. Some have suggested the new majority might convene in a nearby park. Espada and Senator Hiram Monserrate of Queens say they remain Democrats, though they voted with 30 Republicans to change leadership in the 62- member Senate.

Not a Session

“They can meet wherever they want as a friendly gathering, but it is not a Senate session,” Proulx, the Smith spokesman, said.

Senator George Winner, an Elmira Republican, said a session conducted outside the Senate’s regular meeting place would be valid, and chastised Democrats for not allowing a “duly elected majority access to the chamber that taxpayers own.” If necessary, he said the new coalition would provide its own stenographer and other staff needed to conduct a session.

The new majority prepared for the session by releasing a calendar of bills to be voted on today. The list includes authorization for 10 counties to increase sales taxes, allowing tax-increment bonds backed by property taxes levied by school districts, and authorizing Westchester County to sell bonds through electronic bidding in a three-year pilot program. There is no companion bill in the Assembly for the tax-increment bonds.

President Pro Tempore

As part of the Republicans’ move, Espada was named president pro tempore, where he would share power with Skelos and be next in line to become governor if Paterson leaves the state or becomes incapacitated.

Paterson, meanwhile, says he has little power over such disputes within the Legislature. He plans to stay in the state because “if there is any type of misunderstanding or issue of who is next in charge, I would think the best thing for me to do is stay here,” he said in a news conference yesterday.

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Who's on first? And, this is just the start...CA has less than a month of money left...all hail "change".
If you live in a big city now, just wait for the government checks to start bouncing.
tazvil04

Chris Christie needs ideas

Posted by Letters to The Star-Ledger June 09, 2009 5:48AM
Categories: Letters to the EditorCHRIS FAYTOK/The Star-LedgerChris Christie, Republican candidate for governor, gives his victory speech after winning the New Jersey primary.Ideas needed

While watching Republican gubernatorial nominee Chris Christie's victory speech on primary night, one thing became obvious to me: He was effective on rhetoric, but painfully short on specific policy proposals.

He didn't articulate any ideas on what a Christie administration might look like. Contrast that to Gov. Jon Corzine's speech in which the governor spoke specifically about education and other plans to better our state.

This campaign should be a debate about the great issues of our day. I have heard what Corzine's ideas are, now I'm waiting to hear Christie's. It is simply not enough to criticize one's opponent: One must come up with their own ideas on how they would govern.

Steven M. Clayton, Ocean Township

tazvil04
<H3 class=entry-header>He was leading in polls by 23 points...and here he wins by 13 points...a pretty weak margin of victory...

Turnout light in N.J. gubernatorial primary
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Voting is underway today in the New Jersey gubernatorial primary, and the Newark Star Ledger says the turnout is light. One election official called it "one of the slowest elections" he's seen, the Ledger says.
This is one of two statewide races this year, and Republicans see this seat as a key office they could reclaim.
The Republican primary is the big battle today. The top two candidates are former U.S. attorney Chris Christie, who's made a reputation of putting corrupt Garden State politicos behind bars, and Steve Lonegan, a former mayor of Bogota, a small borough in northern New Jersey.
Current Gov. Jon Corzine is also on the ticket on the Democrat side, but he's widely expected to win over three little-known challengers. Our colleagues at The Oval report that Vice President Biden will be in New Jersey later today for a Corzine campaign kickoff.
The latest Quinnipiac University poll, taken May 20, showed Christie leading Lonegan 56% to 33%. If polls prove right and Garden State voters see a Christie-Corzine matchup in November, the incumbent governor, so far, struggles -- the same poll showed Corzine trailing Christie 45% to 38%.


June 3, 2009
Ex-Prosecutor Wins G.O.P. Primary in New Jersey
By DAVID M. HALBFINGERChristopher J. Christie, a former prosecutor who sent a parade of corrupt New Jersey politicians to prison, handily won the Republican nomination for governor on Tuesday, earning the right to try to dislodge the state’s embattled Democratic incumbent, Jon S. Corzine.

His romp past Steven M. Lonegan, a feisty former mayor, sets the stage for what could be a fierce and expensive confrontation with the wealthy Mr. Corzine, who came to office vowing to rescue the state from financial crisis but has watched his popularity sink to record lows as the recession made matters worse.

“I think he’s a good man, and I think he’s well-intentioned,” Mr. Christie said of Mr. Corzine. “But he is simply wrong for this job.”

The fall campaign, one of only two for governor this year (the other is in Virginia), promises to be treated to varying degrees as a referendum on President Obama’s momentous first year or on Republicans’ continued viability — in New Jersey, if not nationally. The last Republican to win statewide was Christie Whitman in 1997.

The White House left no doubt about its intention to support Mr. Corzine’s bid for a second term. In a rousing speech on Tuesday night at Mr. Corzine’s kickoff rally in West Orange, after his victory in a lopsided four-candidate Democratic primary, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said the governor was “on the right side of the issues” and declared: “Barack Obama and Joe Biden are committed to Jon Corzine’s reelection. Period. End of sentence. It’s simple.”

At bottom, the general election will confront New Jersey voters with a stark choice. Mr. Christie, a self-styled conservative, brings little economic experience but bold promises to rein in spending and cut taxes.

Mr. Corzine, an unapologetic liberal who has been hemmed in by budget deficits, assures New Jerseyans that his unpleasant medicine of tax increases and service cuts will prepare the state for a quicker, stronger rebound when recovery arrives.

But if re-election contests are verdicts on the incumbent, the burden on Mr. Corzine, even if he cannot regain the voters’ confidence, will be to paint Mr. Christie, who starts the campaign with a small lead in the polls, as an unacceptable alternative. And right out of the blocks Tuesday night, Mr. Corzine blasted Mr. Christie, without naming him, for his close ties to President George W. Bush.

“Our opponents promise the moon,” Mr. Corzine said in a stemwinder delivered to about 1,500 supporters before Mr. Christie’s final victory margin had become clear. “They want to cut government, increase spending, slash taxes and balance the budget. They’ve got this so-called secret plan. They won’t tell you whose taxes they’re going to cut — they’re going to check with George Bush about that. They say they’ll lay off at least 10,000 employees, maybe more — but they won’t say who, or when, or at what consequence.”

Mr. Corzine said Republicans “just say we should trust them. But I don’t know about you, but I’m not about to put my trust in the same people who gave us George Bush, Dick Cheney or John Ashcroft, skyrocketing unemployment, a housing crisis, bank bailouts, and a war in Iraq!”

Mr. Christie, meanwhile, set out to introduce himself to New Jersey’s broad political middle, where there are nearly as many unaffiliated voters as Democrats and Republicans combined, as a forceful leader equal to the task of taming a state government that has grown too big for taxpayers to afford.

In a colorful speech to several hundred rowdy supporters in Parsippany, Mr. Christie said he had “lived a Jersey life” and wanted to make the state affordable again to working families, retirees and businesses, who he said had been driven “across our borders to Delaware, Pennsylvania — and even New York.”

“That is unacceptable,” he said.

He said Mr. Corzine was animated by a desire to “create the government of his dreams,” but had “overpromised and underdelivered,” adding: “I know you don’t want government to hold your hand; you just want them to get out of your wallet.”

And he vowed to “listen more and lecture less” as governor and to restore people’s “hope, faith and trust” in government. “It’s what I did as United States attorney," Mr. Christie said, "and you can bet it’s what I’ll do as governor.”

With 97 percent of precincts reporting, Mr. Christie led Mr. Lonegan 55 percent to 42 percent. Assemblyman Rick Merkt drew 3 percent, according to The Associated Press.

Mr. Lonegan, who served 12 years as mayor of tiny Bogota, in Bergen County, before making the first of five failed bids for higher office, conceded just after 10 p.m., apologizing to about 150 supporters in East Brunswick for falling short but vowing to help defeat Mr. Corzine. He said conservatives had made their presence in the party felt. “We are here to stay,” he said. “You are here to stay.”

Mr. Christie mainly avoided being pinned down in the primary, resisting calls to issue an economic plan, or to detail what agencies or programs he would cut. But he did take plainly conservative positions on school vouchers, restrictions on abortion rights, and rolling back regulation, particularly on the environment.

At his rally, Mr. Corzine made clear he would go after Mr. Christie on social issues as well as pocketbook ones, saying Republicans indeed wanted smaller government — “small enough to slip under your bedroom door” or to “dictate their own religious beliefs to the rest of us.”

Kenny Porpora, Nate Schweber and Erik White contributed reporting.

Indianhead
QUOTE(tazvil04 @ Jun 10 2009, 03:42 PM) *
Mr. Corzine said Republicans “just say we should trust them. But I don’t know about you, but I’m not about to put my trust in the same people who gave us George Bush,


What ever happened to personal responsibility? Maybe those chickens are coming home to roost...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/12/us/polit...ref=todayspaper
...
But at a certain point, a new president assumes ownership of the problems and finds himself answering for his own actions.
For Mr. Obama, even some advisers say that moment may be coming soon.

Mr. Obama got a taste of that in recent days as he and his White House were put on the defensive trying to explain why
the unemployment rate had risen to 9.4 percent when his staff had predicted it would peak at 8 percent as long as Congress
passed his stimulus plan, which lawmakers dutifully did. Mr. Obama obviously did not create the recession passed to him, but
it was his administration that set the expectation that his policy would keep it from deepening as far as it has.

Gov. Corzine better find a different tact than blaming the GW Bush administration, because he and the
"change administration" are loaded/loading up with their own water, which they have to carry. Ain't the real world a b*itch?


tazvil04
Paterson does have little control with legislative disputes...

But if I were him...I would ramp up the investigations into the two flippers -- get them out of there...and into prison...and replace them...

By talking with the Attorney General he could likely move them back...or out...one or the other...either way it benefits the Dems...
believe_it
QUOTE
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/06/g...ristie_a_2.html

GOP candidate Chris Christie agrees to testify before Congress on federal monitoring contracts

June 19, 2009 16:00PM


Chris Faytok/ The Star-LedgerGOP gubernatorial candidate Chris Christie speaks after
the concession from Steve Lonegan at the Hanover Marriott in Whippany.
Christie today said he would testify before Congress on federal monitoring contracts.

TRENTON -- Republican gubernatorial candidate Chris Christie will testify before Congress next week about controversial federal monitoring contracts he awarded while U.S. attorney - an issue Democrats view as one of his biggest liabilities as he tries to unseat Gov. Jon Corzine.


In a letter today to Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), Christie said he will appear for 2 1/2 hours Thursday before the House Judiciary subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law. The panel is looking into reforming corporate fraud settlements like the one in which Christie awarded a lucrative monitoring contract to his ex-boss, former U.S. attorney general John Ashcroft.

THE NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR'S RACE

"I accept your invitation and look forward to speaking to the Subcommittee members on this important issue," Christie said in the letter to Conyers, who chairs the Judiciary Committee.

Read Chris Chhristie's letter accepting invitation to testify before Congress here:
http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/20...09%20Letter.pdf

The hearing sets up a politically charged clash on Capitol Hill between Christie, the aggressive former prosecutor, and Congressional Democrats who since 2007 have pressed him to divulge more details on the deals, known as deferred prosecution agreements.

The out-of-court settlements between prosecutors and corporations under investigation spare the company and its executives from charges as long as they meet certain requirements, such as entering into a private contract with an independent monitor.

Among the most vocal critics of Christie's monitorships have been New Jersey Reps. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-8th Dist.) and Frank Pallone (D-6th Dist.), who introduced a bill to change how the agreements are doled out. Both plan to testify Thursday and welcomed Christie's decision, although they will not question him directly because they are not members of the subcommittee.

"I think Christie was probably the worst example of how this system was abused," Pallone said during a conference call with reporters today. "He just basically could hire his friends to be the monitors regardless of what expertise they had. And it's just a very political, in my opinion, corrupt system. And it shouldn't be allowed to continue."

Pascrell said he was not surprised by Christie's decision, because if he had refused to testify, "there would be more doubt about this situation."

"We're interested in getting transparency and responsibility," Pascrell said in an interview.

Christie could not be reached for further comment today. He has previously said he chose federal monitors based on their qualifications, not "just because they're a pal," and stressed their fees did not come from taxpayers but the corporations at fault.

Christie said his hand-picked monitors of medical device companies saved taxpayers $500 million in Medicare costs. "I picked the best people," he said in April. "The results speak for themselves."

Christie's decision comes as he leads Corzine by 10 points in public opinion polls. Corzine campaign spokesman Sean Darcy did not respond to requests for comment today.

Corzine allies have tried to use the monitor deals to tarnish Christie's reputation on ethics, a central thrust of his campaign after his corruption-busting tenure as the state's top federal lawman. National Democrats aligned with the Democratic Governors Association launched television ads last month that criticized Christie for practicing "pay-to-play justice" by awarding lucrative monitoring contracts to his "political allies."

Democrats have targeted Christie's choices of monitors, including Ashcroft - whose contract was worth up to $52 million - and David Kelley, former U.S. attorney in Manhattan, who investigated a stock fraud case involving Christie's brother but did not indict him.

In 2007, Christie chose Aschroft, Kelley and three other attorneys to perform 18 months of oversight of major orthopedic implant companies accused of violating federal anti-kickback laws.

Seton Hall University political scientist Joseph Marbach said it is a smart move by Christie's campaign to address the issue head-on, noting the hearing will draw less attention from voters in the summer and on the same day as final votes on the state budget.

"It's almost like taking your medicine. You take it sooner rather than later and you can move on," Marbach said. "It's a risk for anybody, but with Christie's legal training and background he should be well-suited to handle it."

Herb Jackson of the Record contributed to this report.

From the online comments section:
"It is my understanding that the federal monitors were not/can not contribute to the Christie campaign. this is a screwy issue. The feds get a company that is caught in price-fixing to agree to a big federal fine AND to pay for the montitors to oversee them for a time to make sure the practice has stopped. I believe the folks in DC and Trenton know there are a limited number of firms with the experience to be hired to monitor. if you hate Christie then you can twist it into something nasty, if you hate Corzine you can make it into a Saving The Money issue. Legally he (Christie) was correct, he as far as I can see hired the (repub leaning named partners?) firms with solid experience. So less folks cheated on "medical devices" (implants for joints I believe) the companies paid for the whole mess and taxpayers got the $ from the fines."


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graham4anything
Christie-with a name like that, he must be crooked

not to mention -is he FAT or what? He is totally unappealing looking, very bad for a politician. Sweats alot.
People don't like sweaty fat ugly politicians. Makes them look shifty, as if they are hiding something.
tazvil04
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Jun 12 2009, 08:36 AM) *
QUOTE(tazvil04 @ Jun 10 2009, 03:42 PM) *
Mr. Corzine said Republicans "just say we should trust them. But I don't know about you, but I'm not about to put my trust in the same people who gave us George Bush,


What ever happened to personal responsibility? Maybe those chickens are coming home to roost...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/12/us/polit...ref=todayspaper
...
But at a certain point, a new president assumes ownership of the problems and finds himself answering for his own actions.
For Mr. Obama, even some advisers say that moment may be coming soon.

Mr. Obama got a taste of that in recent days as he and his White House were put on the defensive trying to explain why
the unemployment rate had risen to 9.4 percent when his staff had predicted it would peak at 8 percent as long as Congress
passed his stimulus plan, which lawmakers dutifully did. Mr. Obama obviously did not create the recession passed to him, but
it was his administration that set the expectation that his policy would keep it from deepening as far as it has.

Gov. Corzine better find a different tact than blaming the GW Bush administration, because he and the
"change administration" are loaded/loading up with their own water, which they have to carry. Ain't the real world a b*itch?



I totally agree....Corzine does have to accept responsibility...and he will...

However, New Jersey does need to know who Christie is...and he is a Bush disciple...

Christie was one the chopping block by BUsh...when they were considering him being removed....

And then all of a sudden his office released info...regarding a weak case against a Bob Menendez during a sentorial campaign...

And all of a sudden he was no longer on the list...to be removed...


Politico Labels Bush U.S. Attorney as GOP's Future, Ignores Evidence He Politicized Office
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-bohrer/...a_b_171476.html
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There was a reverse presumption that if they stayed in office, they would be seen to have compromised themselves.
The story is about several Bush-era U.S. Attorneys who are likely to seek higher office, but its primary subject is Chris Christie, a Bush "Pioneer" fundraiser in 2000 and New Jersey Republican candidate for governor in 2009. According to Politico, Christie is the prime example of how "the U.S. attorney badge has taken on a new sheen for the GOP."


Though what the story does not mention are these revelations from two years ago, as summarized by Blue Jersey's huntsu:
    <LI class=first>In January 2006, Chris Christie was on a list of US Attorney's who were being looked at for replacement.
  • In September 2006, in the midst of a hard-fought U.S. Senate campaign being dominated by accusations of corruption, Chris Christie authorizes a last minute subpoena that plays into Tom Kean Jr.'s political attacks against Bob Menendez.
  • In November 2006, after the election is over, Chris Christie is taken off the list and allowed to keep his job.
This wasn't small news only discussed on blogs. Outlets like the Star Ledger and New York Times devoted articles and columns to the apparent scandal. But oblivious to these reports, the Politico reporter points to Christie as one of those who rose above the politicization and stain of the Bush Justice Department -- that he is "[f]ar from being a source of embarrassment." Those in the know feel otherwise.


And perhaps Chris Christie is one of them. Had he received a pink slip like the prosecutors with integrity did, the circumstantial evidence that he played politics with his office would not be as persuasive. Because if there are U.S. Attorneys who look like they compromised themselves for the Bush White House, Christie remains at the top of that list.



<H2 class=postTitle>As U.S. Attorney, Chris Christie Approved Warrantless Tracking Of Suspects Using Cell Phone GPS</H2>Filed in General U.S. News, Politics on Apr.24, 2009I love technology….at least most of the time. I love my computers and wireless phones. I love my cell phone and microwaves are one of the greatest inventions of all time as far as I’m concerned. BUT what I don’t like is the fact that technology is being turned against us and used to invade almost every part of our lives. When we drive chances are technology will be used to make sure we aren’t speeding or running red lights. Surveillance cameras now adorn many workplaces, watching the every move of the employees. Dressing rooms have even fallen prety to camera surveillance. The Bush administration used technology to install warrantless wiretaps and now we find that cell phone GPS systems have been used illegally to record the movements of “suspects”.

Studies have been done to determine the efficacy of t.v. surveillance in deterring crime.

A study this year by the European Commission of the effect of the 200,000 surveillance cameras in operation in London found that crime has risen 10 percent since 2002. SOURCE

And it’s not just criminals who have something to fear from all of the surveillance.

Another British study, done at Hull University, found that one in 10 surveillance cameras was at one time or another used to follow women for voyeuristic ends, and in New York City, a surveillance tape from a public housing project that recorded a black man committing suicide was posted on a racist Web site, allegedly by one of the police officers who was supposed to be monitoring the cameras.SOURCE

Videos of unsuspecting people — women changing in store dressing rooms, couples fighting or having sex — that were caught by the British surveillance cameras have wound up for sale on the Internet. SOURCE.

Regulations for surveillance have not kept pace with technology and technology is ever encroaching on our “reasonable expectation of privacy.” In this day and age it is not paranoid to believe that you might be under the watchful eye of an unknown entity. Just how much privacy are we willing to sacrifice to gain a false sense of security?

As U.S. Attorney, Chris Christie Approved Warrantless Tracking Of Suspects Using Cell Phone GPS

While serving as a U.S. attorney during the Bush administration, Christopher Christie, now a Republican candidate for Governor in New Jersey, tracked the whereabouts of citizens through their cell phones without warrants. The ACLU obtained the documents detailing the spying program from the Justice Department in an ongoing lawsuit over cell phone tracking.

While the documents reveal 79 such cases on or after Sept. 12, 2001, they do not specify how many of the applications were made during Christie’s tenure. Christie served as U.S. attorney from Jan. 17, 2002 through November 2008. ACLU staff attorney Catherine Crump noted:

Tracking the location of people’s cell phones reveals intimate details of their daily routines and is highly invasive of their privacy. The government is violating the Constitution when it fails to get a search warrant before tracking people this way.

The new revelations about the cell phone tracking program under Christie is yet another example of the warrantless spying programs authorized under the Bush administration. Previous programs approved without a court order or warrant have included the secret program to monitor radiation levels at over 100 Muslim sites and the NSA spying program on the phone and e-mail communications of thousands of people inside the U.S. These programs run contrary to the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which forbids “unreasonable searches” and sets out specific requirements for warrants, including “probable cause.”

http://mountainsageblog.com/2009/04/24/as-...cell-phone-gps/



tazvil04
May 29, 2009 1:11 pm US/Eastern

NJ Politician's First Political Foray Was Bumpy
http://wcbstv.com/politics/chris.christie.....2.1023831.html

MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. (CBS)Chris Christie has a reputation for fighting political corruption, but that doesn't mean the Republican seeking his party's nomination for governor hasn't engaged in rugged politics.

He won his first election after claiming -- falsely -- that two opponents were under investigation.

"I think he was dirtier than most," said Edward Tamm, one of the two incumbent Morris County freeholders Christie and a running mate ousted in a primary 15 years ago.

Christie's allies -- a group that includes several former adversaries -- have said he learned from that first campaign. They also gave him credit for improving the government in Morris County during a tumultuous term on the freeholder board. That foray into politics before the office made him well known across the state, and he served as U.S. Attorney from 2002 until last year. There, he built his corruption-busting reputation as his office won convictions of 130 public officials.

Christie is now running as the favorite among New Jersey's GOP establishment, seen as moderate enough to have a chance in a state that has not elected a Republican to statewide office in 12 years.

But the last time he ran for office, he was a divisive figure among Republicans in his home county.

In 1994, Christie was 31 and a new partner at a Cranford law firm. He had political experience already from working on President George H.W. Bush's failed 1992 re-election bid campaign and serving as class president at Livingston High School for four years. He also served as student body president at the University of Delaware.

But Christie was a newcomer to Morris County, among the nation's highest counties in income, and a place where Republicans routinely scuffled in primaries but dominated in general elections.

Instead of working his way up through municipal government, he burst onto the scene on the county level. He said last week that he started there because when he addressed the board to oppose a road widening project near his home, he felt the public was not treated with respect.

In newspaper and cable TV ads in the campaign's final weeks, Christie claimed that Tamm and Cecilia Laureys were being investigated for violations of open public meetings laws. But there was no investigation.

Christie won the primary, then the general election. Tamm and Laureys sued for defamation, and Christie later settled with them and apologized.
Christie said the problem was regrettable but relatively small: He used the word "investigation" when he should have used "inquiry."

Tamm maintains that Christie should have known better, whileLaureys has forgiven him en-route to endorsing him for governor.

"Sometimes you have to learn from your mistakes," she said. She believes he has. Furthermore, she said, Christie has treated her well since the lawsuit was settled.

John Eckert, who also served on the board in the mid-1990s, said Christie was determined to carry out his plans for reform. In each of the first five meetings, Christie raised another major point, recalled Eckert, who now lives in Wayland, Mich.

Eckert said he saw an ambitious young politician who was forceful and articulate.

"If you didn't agree with him, you had to sharpen your pencil and do your homework," Eckert said.

While his open government agenda initially annoyed other freeholders, it was eventually adopted.

The principle of an open government that affords no special favors to the elected or the connected became a fixture of his time as the state's top federal law enforcer and is being echoed again in his current campaign.
The board began requiring that all public contracts -- even for professional services -- be awarded only after a competitive bidding process.

The board also installed a stringent ethics policy for county officials that, among other things, barred accepting gifts from contractors. John Murphy, a freeholder who sought the Republican nomination for governor in 2005, said it means he needs to be careful not to let a college friend who's now a lawyer buy him a beer.

As U.S. attorney, Christie used to warn that elected officials could show they were for sale by taking gifts as small as cups of coffee from contractors.

But Christie said he never accepted coffee or any other gift when he was a freeholder. He also added he wasn't as politic as he should have been when he joined the board -- something he chalks up to his relative youth.

"You needed to be more gentle and delicate than I actually was," Christie said.

Oscar Doyle, who was chairman of the Morris County Republican organization when Christie was a freeholder -- and who had some arguments with him -- said Christie stood out for being careful with taxpayer money at a time when not every politician was.

"In the '90s, we didn't even think of a recession," Doyle said.

One of the major dilemmas of the time was over building a new county jail. Before Christie was on the board, the freeholders hired an architect who had never before designed a jail without competitive bidding. The architect estimated the facility would cost $49 million.

Christie was a leader in the charge to fire that architect and have firms bid for the job. The facility cost $32 million to build and opened in 1999, and Christie still cites it as one of the major accomplishments of his term.

The fired architect sued Christie for defamation over a campaign newsletter in which Christie claimed his action saved taxpayers $17 million. Christie initially asked if the county could pay his legal fees in the case, asserting it had to do with county business. He later changed course and paid his own legal bills, but the issue would come back.

Christie lost the primary in his re-election attempt in 1997, and chalks that up largely to the way he tweaked the power structure with his reform agenda. "I had bucked the status quo a lot," he said.

But another factor may have been the campaign ads that run by a slate of candidates including John Murphy, another Christie opponents who has become a supporter.

They said Christie had agreed to have the county pay his legal bills.
After the loss, Christie did what the incumbents he had defeated three years earlier did: sued for defamation.

And like the earlier case, it eventually settled out of court.

"Chris and I hammered out the deal one-on-one," Murphy said. "That was the beginning of somewhat of a friendship."
graham4anything
a new poll today shows the same lead by Christie that he has had all through June

I will 100% guarantee now, Jon Corzine will WIN in Nov.
Christie has not been able to advance his lead, and the polls in NJ are notorious (all of them) for being hire in polling republicans every single year

come Nov. Corzine will win by 3 or 4. Guaranteed.
GOPGuy
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Jun 4 2009, 04:12 PM) *
NJ is a big state, though southerners would have no idea, and just have stereotypes in their heads


Doesn't anyone find this like the pot calling the kettle black?
graham4anything
QUOTE(GOPGuy @ Jun 24 2009, 11:57 PM) *
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Jun 4 2009, 04:12 PM) *
NJ is a big state, though southerners would have no idea, and just have stereotypes in their heads


Doesn't anyone find this like the pot calling the kettle black?



and we know what your party, the republicans, think of blacks (esp. after the attempted eradication of them in New Orleans during Katrina)

what would be nice, but so 1990s and not the current scene would be for Corzine to quit and get another job, and Bill Bradley to pick up the basketball
once again (but he appears to selfish to do it, and again, that's so 1990s)
tazvil04
Can we get back on topic?

We will see how Christie's poll numbers are after he testifies before Congress where former US Attorneys will likely question him...and he will see how he does under the gun...

It is never a good idea for a candidate for public office to go before a Congressional committee investigating a scandal...

GOP candidate Chris Christie agrees to testify before Congress on federal monitoring contracts

by Claire Heininger/Statehouse Bureau

Friday June 19, 2009, 4:00 PMChris Faytok/ The Star-LedgerGOP gubernatorial candidate Chris Christie speaks after the concession from Steve Lonegan at the Hanover Marriott in Whippany. Christie today said he would testify before Congress on federal monitoring contracts.TRENTON -- Republican gubernatorial candidate Chris Christie will testify before Congress next week about controversial federal monitoring contracts he awarded while U.S. attorney - an issue Democrats view as one of his biggest liabilities as he tries to unseat Gov. Jon Corzine.

In a letter today to Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), Christie said he will appear for 2 1/2 hours Thursday before the House Judiciary subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law. The panel is looking into reforming corporate fraud settlements like the one in which Christie awarded a lucrative monitoring contract to his ex-boss, former U.S. attorney general John Ashcroft.

THE NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR'S RACE

"I accept your invitation and look forward to speaking to the Subcommittee members on this important issue," Christie said in the letter to Conyers, who chairs the Judiciary Committee.

The hearing sets up a politically charged clash on Capitol Hill between Christie, the aggressive former prosecutor, and Congressional Democrats who since 2007 have pressed him to divulge more details on the deals, known as deferred prosecution agreements.

The out-of-court settlements between prosecutors and corporations under investigation spare the company and its executives from charges as long as they meet certain requirements, such as entering into a private contract with an independent monitor.

Among the most vocal critics of Christie's monitorships have been New Jersey Reps. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-8th Dist.) and Frank Pallone (D-6th Dist.), who introduced a bill to change how the agreements are doled out. Both plan to testify Thursday and welcomed Christie's decision, although they will not question him directly because they are not members of the subcommittee.

"I think Christie was probably the worst example of how this system was abused," Pallone said during a conference call with reporters today. "He just basically could hire his friends to be the monitors regardless of what expertise they had. And it's just a very political, in my opinion, corrupt system. And it shouldn't be allowed to continue."

Pascrell said he was not surprised by Christie's decision, because if he had refused to testify, "there would be more doubt about this situation."

"We're interested in getting transparency and responsibility," Pascrell said in an interview.

Christie could not be reached for further comment today. He has previously said he chose federal monitors based on their qualifications, not "just because they're a pal," and stressed their fees did not come from taxpayers but the corporations at fault.

Christie said his hand-picked monitors of medical device companies saved taxpayers $500 million in Medicare costs. "I picked the best people," he said in April. "The results speak for themselves."

Christie's decision comes as he leads Corzine by 10 points in public opinion polls. Corzine campaign spokesman Sean Darcy did not respond to requests for comment today.

Corzine allies have tried to use the monitor deals to tarnish Christie's reputation on ethics, a central thrust of his campaign after his corruption-busting tenure as the state's top federal lawman. National Democrats aligned with the Democratic Governors Association launched television ads last month that criticized Christie for practicing "pay-to-play justice" by awarding lucrative monitoring contracts to his "political allies."

Democrats have targeted Christie's choices of monitors, including Ashcroft - whose contract was worth up to $52 million - and David Kelley, former U.S. attorney in Manhattan, who investigated a stock fraud case involving Christie's brother but did not indict him.

In 2007, Christie chose Aschroft, Kelley and three other attorneys to perform 18 months of oversight of major orthopedic implant companies accused of violating federal anti-kickback laws.

Seton Hall University political scientist Joseph Marbach said it is a smart move by Christie's campaign to address the issue head-on, noting the hearing will draw less attention from voters in the summer and on the same day as final votes on the state budget.

"It's almost like taking your medicine. You take it sooner rather than later and you can move on," Marbach said. "It's a risk for anybody, but with Christie's legal training and background he should be well-suited to handle it."

Herb Jackson of the Record contributed to this report.

<A href="http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/06/gop_candidate_chris_christie_a_2.html">http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/06/gop_candidate_chris_christie_a_2.html



tazvil04
Friday, April 03, 2009


Christie's Contracts [[email="david.freddoso%40gmail.com"]David Freddoso[/email]]


Several weeks ago, I wrote about Chris Christie, Republican candidate for governor of New Jersey. Thanks in part to his early lead over unpopular Gov. Jon Corzine (D), the Republican Governors' Association has embraced him. They even had him address their big fundraiser, despite the fact that he does face a party primary. (His principal opponent is former Bogota Mayor Steve Lonegan.)

Today's story in the Philadelphia Inquirer could be trouble for Christie, a former U.S. Attorney who prosecuted numerous corruption cases. Having convicted more than one hundred corrupt officials in a state known for its political corruption, Christie has been using the good-government theme heavily for his campaign.

The story pertains to Christie's brother Todd, whose firm in 2005 was allowed to settle with the SEC over charges of improper trading without admitting any wrongdoing. Here's how it ties in:

Christie, as U.S. attorney...gave a lucrative no-bid contract to David Kelly in September 2007. Kelly was the U.S. attorney who investigated the stock fraud case that included Todd Christie.

To be specific, Christie's office gave Kelly, who by then had gone back to private practice, a contract to monitor parties in a so-called "deferred prosecution agreement." Christie's explanation:

Christie said yesterday that he had never had a conversation with Kelly about his brother's SEC problems. He said he gave Kelly the monitoring contract because "he was a great prosecutor who ran one of the biggest offices in the country and I needed a tough guy."

Democrats on the federal level are already using this to their full advantage. Two from New Jersey have a bill that would change the way such contracts are awarded.

That monitoring contract and a few others were the focus of a bill announced by New Jersey Democratic Reps. Frank Pallone and William Pascrell to regulate deferred prosecution agreements...The Pallone bill would have the attorney general issue written guidelines for future deferred prosecution agreements, have federal judges and not prosecutors select the monitors, have a standardized fee schedule for the monitors, and require public reporting of the monitors' fees and activities.

The Newark Star-Ledger reported last January that Democrats in Congress were already interested in investigating and holding hearings on such a contract, awarded by Christie's office to his former boss, John Ashcroft. This would offer New Jersey Democrats an opportunity to push their advantage and save Governor Corzine from his current low approval numbers.



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Posted on Fri, Apr. 3, 2009


Christie forced to discuss brother's old SEC case
By Cynthia Burton

Inquirer Staff Writer

As New Jersey Republican gubernatorial candidate Christopher J. Christie rolled out his ethics plan yesterday, two Democratic congressmen pushed back with a bill aimed at embarrassing the former U.S. attorney.

Christie, the perceived front-runner in the Republican primary field, also was forced to answer questions about a stock fraud scandal that involved his brother after his hometown newspaper published a story on the now-resolved case.

The Securities and Exchange Commission in April 2005 accused Christie's brother, Todd, of making a series of improper trades of America Online Inc. and International Business Machines Corp. stock between 1999 and 2003. In October 2008, Todd Christie settled with the SEC, admitting no wrongdoing but agreeing to stop improper trading practices, according to a copy of the settlement.

The company Todd Christie headed, Spear, Leeds & Kellogg Specialists L.L.C., settled with the SEC and agreed to pay a $16.4 million civil fine, according to a March 2004 SEC news release.

Yesterday, the Mendham Observer-Tribune published a story noting that Christie, as U.S. attorney, he gave a lucrative no-bid contract to David Kelly in September 2007. Kelly was the U.S. attorney who investigated the stock fraud case that included Todd Christie.

Kelly, former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, was out of the office yesterday and did not return a message left with his secretary.

Christie said yesterday that he had never had a conversation with Kelly about his brother's SEC problems. He said he gave Kelly the monitoring contract because "he was a great prosecutor who ran one of the biggest offices in the country and I needed a tough guy."

That monitoring contract and a few others were the focus of a bill announced by New Jersey Democratic Reps. Frank Pallone and William Pascrell to regulate deferred prosecution agreements.

Federal prosecutors hire law firms to monitor people or organizations charged with wrongdoing but who agree to change in lieu of a costly trial.

While U.S. attorney, Christie hired his old boss, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, to monitor a company that manufactured knee and hip implants. The company was charged with giving kickbacks to doctors for recommending the devices to patients. He gave his friend Herbert Stern, a former federal judge, a contract to monitor the scandal-ridden University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey.

And he gave a monitor contract to Kelly, the prosecutor in the case that involved Todd Christie.

The contracts are valued in the millions of dollars but the full tab is unknown because none of the parties is obligated to disclose the fees.

The Pallone bill would have the attorney general issue written guidelines for future deferred prosecution agreements, have federal judges and not prosecutors select the monitors, have a standardized fee schedule for the monitors, and require public reporting of the monitors' fees and activities.

Christie dismissed the legislation, saying, "This is all just made-up political stuff by people who want to play gubernatorial politics."

This is the second week Democrats have been attacking Christie, and the attacks come as Democratic Gov. Corzine is stuck in a rough patch. He has sagging performance ratings from voters and has introduced a bare-bones state budget.

The point of the attacks is to raise questions about Christie's fitness to become governor and his reputation as a high-profile prosecutor. As U.S. attorney, Christie secured convictions or guilty pleas from 130 elected and appointed officials.

Other attacks have included Democratic challenges of Christie to give more details on his fiscal plans for the state and to return campaign contributions from Stern, one of the monitors Christie hired.

Christie, meanwhile, held a conference call with reporters at noon yesterday to discuss his ethics platform. Playing off the opening days of the corruption trial of former State Sen. Joseph Coniglio (D., Bergen), Christie promised to support legislation that would force lawmakers to disclose whether they had a financial interest in laws they pass.

Coniglio is charged with steering state money to Hackensack Hospital in exchange for a job.



Contact staff writer Cynthia Burton at 856-779-3858 or cburton@phillynews.com.

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Hearing on: Accountability, Transparency, and Uniformity in Corporate Deferred and Non-Prosecution Agreements

WATCH VIDEO WEBCAST HERE

The Webcast does not start until the hearing begins

06/25/2009 11:00 A.M.

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Funny, taz. Did anyone successfully watch the hearing? I couldn't open the 'SMIL file' to stream live or review the video. No c-span coverage either. Below, the only documents available so far,

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/hear_090625.html
Hearing Information
Hearing on: Accountability, Transparency, and Uniformity in Corporate Deferred and Non-Prosecution Agreements
Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law
Thursday 06/25/2009 - 11:00 A.M.


http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Conyers090625.pdf
Chairman's Opening Statement

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Zimmer090625.pdf
Emails Related to the Zimmer Deferred Prosecution Agreement and the Ashcroft Consulting Group
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Funny, taz. Did anyone successfully watch the hearing? I couldn't open the 'SMIL file' to stream live or review the video. No c-span coverage either. Below, the only documents available so far,

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/hear_090625.html
Hearing Information
Hearing on: Accountability, Transparency, and Uniformity in Corporate Deferred and Non-Prosecution Agreements
Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law
Thursday 06/25/2009 - 11:00 A.M.


http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Conyers090625.pdf
Chairman's Opening Statement

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Zimmer090625.pdf
Emails Related to the Zimmer Deferred Prosecution Agreement and the Ashcroft Consulting Group



I kept trying too and never got in and then forgot about it...
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Excerpted from John Conyers' Opening Remarks...

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Conyers090625.pdf

Third, has the abuse or the appearance of abuse in the system been completely eliminated?
For example, I find New Jersey U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie’s appointment of former
Attorney General John Ashcroft to be a corporate monitor in the Zimmer Holdings case to be
particularly troubling. That appointment was made with no public notice, no bidding, and with
no input from a neutral judge or the company subject to the monitoring.
Reportedly, Mr. Ashcroft received $52 million for 18 months of work as a result of this
appointment. And, even more astoundingly, these fees were essentially non‐negotiable.

Especially in light of the fact that Mr. Ashcroft supervised Mr. Christie while he was attorney
general, this arrangement presents the appearance of cronyism.

I am also concerned with a provision in the agreement deferring prosecution in the Bristol‐
Myers Squibb case where U.S. Attorney Christie required Bristol‐Myers Squibb to endow a chair
in business ethics at his alma mater, Seton Hall. This extraordinary restitution had nothing to
do with the underlying criminal conduct. Furthermore, I am troubled by the fact that lucrative
monitor contracts are not generally available to all interested attorneys. Last May, The New
York Times reported that at least 30 of the 41 monitors appointed in deferred prosecution
agreements since 1994 were former government officials and 23 were former prosecutors.

In light of these concerns, I am pleased that the Subcommittee on Commercial and
Administrative Law is revisiting the Justice Department’s use of corporate deferred and nonprosecution
agreements. When the Committee last considered this issue in March 2008,
former Attorney General John Ashcroft’s testimony unfortunately left us with more questions
than answers.
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GOP gov. candidate Chris Christie defends record as U.S. Attorney before Congress

by Claire Heininger and Herb Jackson/Statehouse Bureau
Thursday June 25, 2009, 5:03 PM

WASHINGTON -- Republican gubernatorial candidate Chris Christie vigorously defended his record as U.S. attorney today during a congressional hearing marked by testy exchanges with House Democrats.

The House Judiciary Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative law called on Christie to testify about "deferred prosecution agreements," through which prosecutors allow corporations under investigation to avoid charges if they hire special monitors to revamp operations. Christie oversaw seven of those agreements as New Jersey's top federal prosecutor, and several of the deals have become political fodder in his campaign to unseat Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine.

During one confrontation, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) challenged Christie's assertion that corporations had an opportunity to reject monitors.

"You made them an offer they couldn't refuse," Cohen said.

"No. You were not in the room," Christie shot back.

"I got the microphone," Cohen said, but Christie kept talking.

"First of all, it is an ethnically insensitive comment to an Italian American. Secondly, you were not in the room in this situation," Christie said.

As Cohen said he did not know Christie was of Italian descent, Christie argued the reason none of the companies turned down monitors was because prosecutors did their jobs in finding the right monitors.

Cohen and Christie tangled again when Christie got up and left the hearing shortly after 1:30 p.m., as Democrats and Republicans argued over whether he should be required to remain.

Cohen tried to get Christie to stay as he began to leave, saying he never would make a 2 p.m. train at Union Station. U.S. Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) objected as Christie got up and exited the room.

The candidate, hurrying to catch a train back north, paused briefly in the hallway to take questions from reporters. Christie said Cohen and committee members were notified in advance that he would have to leave at 1:30 p.m., and dismissed Cohen's objections as "part of the circus and the show."

"It's a political circus, and it's unfortunate that they're using the money of the taxpayers of the United States to perform this kind of political circus, but out of respect for the Congress, I came down here and I testified, and I testified forthrightly," Christie said.

"All the professionals on that panel all agreed with what we did," Christie said, referring to a Justice Department representative and other witnesses who joined him before the committee. "The only people who believe that this is a problem are the people who want to make political hay out of it."

He said he did not regret coming, and hoped his testimony would put the issue to rest -- but does not think Corzine will let that happen.

Democrats pressed Christie about several monitor contracts, including the selection of former Attorney General John Ashcroft, who was once Christie's boss, for a contract overseeing a maker of artificial hips and knees reportedly worth as much as $52 million. They also asked about the selection of David Kelley, who as a federal prosecutor in New York had decided not to bring charges against Christie's brother in a securities case when others at his firm were charged.

The medical device makers were told they could avoid prosecution for paying kickbacks to surgeons if they hired special monitors to revamp operations.

Christie told the subcommittee in his opening statement that deferred prosecution agreements allowed workers at the companies to keep their jobs, and patients to continue to get medical devices. He also stressed that the monitors were paid by the corporations.

"Zero taxpayer dollars were spent on these monitors," Christie said.

Christie has come under fire from Democrats supporting Corzine, who say Christie used the monitor contracts to reward friends, some of whom later became contributors.

Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-8th Dist.) complained to the committee that deferred prosecution agreements let corporations get away with fraud by simply paying enough to make the charges go away.

"These corporate criminals never admit guilt to the consumers they cheated, and thanks to Mr. Christie, they never will," Pascrell said. He and Pallone (D-6th Dist.) testified after Christie had left the room.

Pascrell Jr. and Frank Pallone accuse Christie of abusing the process by getting companies to hire friends for the contracts, which can be lucrative. The congressmen proposed a bill to reform the deferred prosecution process.

The subcommittee released e-mails from one of the medical device makers, Zimmer Holdings, complaining about fees proposed by Ashcroft's firm.

"At bottom, what we have here is a demand that the Monitor and Zimmer automatically transfer to it $13.5 million dollars just for having General Ashcroft and his top two aides available to work on this matter, no matter how much or how little work they actually do," reads the e-mail, which an aide said was from a Zimmer lawyer to an attorney in Christie's office.

In the documents, Christie tells the lawyer to work the disagreement out with Ashcroft's firm.

He told the committee the company and Ashcroft's firm reached an agreement within a week of that e-mail. He said it's not unusual "for high priced lawyers to argue with each other about fees."

Cohen had said earlier in the hearing that the total fee of as much as $52 million earned by Ashcroft was too high.

"I don't care what you did, it's not worth $52 million," Cohen said. "Even if you took steroids and hit 70 home runs, it's not worth $52 million."

But the top-ranking Republican on the subcommittee issued a statement that agreed with Christie that requiring the firms to hire monitors was a success.

"Chris Christie deserves a medal for achievements like these, and so do other U.S. Attorneys who obtain similar results," said Rep. Trent Frank (R-Ariz.).

Asked after the hearing about previous statements that Zimmer did not object to Ashcroft's fees and the e-mails released today, Christie disputed there was a conflict.

"No. What I had said before was that nobody at Zimmer -- they did not reach an impasse with General Ashcroft. They went back and there were negotiations over fees, and they, ultimately, within a week of those e-mails, agreed to fees," he said.

The subcommittee first invited Christie to appear when he was still U.S. Attorney in February 2008. That was four months after news of a contract given to Ashcroft.

Ashcroft defended his qualifications at a hearing in March 2008, but the Justice Department sent a federal prosecutor from Georgia to that hearing instead of Christie. A department official also testified about new policies for deferred prosecution agreements issued the day before the hearing.

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N.J. Legislature passes bill allowing forced treatment to mentally ill, awaiting Corzine approval

Posted by cdelacru June 27, 2009 08:09AM


Mel Evans/The Associated Press

New Jersey Senate President Richard J. Codey, D-West Orange, the prime sponsor of a bill to force people with a serious mental illness to attend outpatient treatment if a judge finds they are a danger to themselves or others.

A bill that would allow state officials to force people with a serious mental illness to attend outpatient treatment if a judge finds they are a danger to themselves or others has been sent to Gov. Jon Corzine

The bill, which won final legislative approval on Thursday, requires the state Department of Human Services to create a screening system under which licensed mental health professionals, with the help of family members, would evaluate patients who may present a danger to themselves, others or property because they refuse to take prescribed medications.


Mental health advocates have been split over the issue since the bill was introduced in 2005. Some advocates argue forcing people into treatment violates their civil rights, while others say the bill protects the public and patients who may be too ill to recognize the severity of their condition.

Senate President Richard Codey (D-Essex), the prime sponsor, noted two recent homicides "renewed the urgency for this bill,'' according to a statement from his office.

One occurred in August of 2008, when a schizophrenic man from Galloway Township who had refused treatment,
attacked and killed his mother and niece. A month later at the train station in Jersey City, a schizophrenic man from Jersey City, whose parents had been fighting for years to get him treatment, fatally stabbed a stranger.

The bill allow for a three-year phase-in by county, with seven counties adopting the program each year.

It is unclear, howewever, if Corzine will support it. Deputy Human Services Commissioner Kevin Martone recently urged an Assembly committee considering the bill to postpone the vote until the state could afford to expand outpatient treatment services.

"The Department will be placed in a position to cut services to existing consumers already voluntarily seeking or waiting for services,'' according to Martone's letter.

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now if we could just get all republicans and Bush syncopants and Obamahaters into that program, it would be a womderful thing

Richard Codey is a great person, he should still be governor, and Corzine senator

boy that fatboy REPUBLICAN retread Christie was hemming, hawing, errrring, and sweating and bobbing and weaving...just looking at him, he seems guilty to me, while he is on his way down down down.
One must vote NO on him. Christie just "blame the democrats" is so 1980s...another piece of rubbish in a pile a mile high.
I think Nixon sweated less...didn't Christie ever hear of deodorant? (I'd hate to have stood next to him)phewwwwwww(where's that skunk avitar?)
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