http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4329


Big Brother's New Target: Tracking Firearms

Friday, January 23, 2009

U.S. Representative Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) recently sponsored H.R. 45, also known as "Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act." The bill is, at its core and as its name implies, a licensing and registration scheme.

The measure calls for all handgun owners to submit to the federal government an application that shall include, among many other things: a photo; an address; a thumbprint; a completed, written firearm safety test; private mental health records; and a fee. And those are only some of the requirements to be licensed!

The bill would further require the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer, and owner's address in America. Moreover, the bill would make it illegal to own or possess a "qualifying firearm" -- defined as "any handgun; or any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device…" [emphasis added] without one of the proposed licenses.

Additionally, the bill would make it illegal to transfer ownership of a "qualifying firearm" to anyone who is not a licensed gun dealer or collector (with very few exceptions), and would require "qualifying firearm" owners to report all transfers to the attorney general's database. It would also be illegal for a licensed gun owner to fail to record a gun loss or theft within 72 hours, or fail to report a change of address within 60 days. Further, if a minor obtains a firearm and injures someone with it, the owner of the firearm may face a multiple-year jail sentence.

H.R. 45 is essentially a reintroduction of H.R. 2666, which Rush introduced in 2007. H.R. 2666 contained much of the same language as H.R. 45, and was co-sponsored by several well-known anti-gun legislators--including Barack Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel. H.R. 45 currently has no co-sponsors.

Rest assured that NRA-ILA will continue to monitor this bill closely, and will keep you informed of any developments if they materialize.

hope they take yours away

your hatred of Obama is reason enuf

they should put a chip in each gun, so its known 24/7/365

guns kill
idiots with guns kill
anyone who ever drinks who owns a gun kills and should be monitored

people like to stroke their guns when they can't stroke the real thing

Why wait for "they", come and get it.


For your brousing pleasure.

When they come for you Graham....you can expect no help from me....

you say that now, bigtom...LOL

but "THEY" are not coming for me.

and if THEY come for anyone, ten bullets won't save you if you need eleven
a million bullets won't save you if they fire a million and one

I hope it passes.....sounds reasonable to me. If handgun owners don't like the "fee'' because they feel it infringes on their 2nd amendment right to be armed, then maybe the NRA and other weapons groups can pay the fees for those who can't afford it.

maybe they can go on welfare and get "gun fee" stamps if they can't afford it

Yeah, if they can afford the yearly NRA fees, they can afford it

You gotta register your car every single year and you gotta track the liscence plates if you sell your car

Why are gun owners so afraid if they are not doing anything illegal?

When one has e-z-pass in their car, anytime you go anywhere they know you

So, indianhead, what are you afraid of? Are you not suppose to have the guns you have?
You would think, over the years you have indicated you are a law officer?
If so, I don't get it?
What are YOU so afraid of?

Unless...

only ones who are afraid of ID normally are perps...

so what are you afraird of?

What I really like to know is-

Do you think if a real revolution happened and THEY came for YOUR guns, YOUR puny gun will save you?

THEY can drop a bunker buster bomb over YOUR area and what good is YOUR puny gun?

especially THEY have unmanned DRONES

especially as there is NO right anyhow to an individual owning a gun WITHOUT registration or tracking devices.
Tell me where it says that

and you better look up from your bed...hear that plane above...is it the ceiling fan, or is it an unmanned drone?

and again, what happens when YOUR bullets run out?

In what world did a bullet ever save a day, let alone anyone at all?
Throughout history, a bullet has killed one good person after another, but NEVER EVER EVER EVER has a gun or a bullet saved anyone.

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G you keep spouting the same crap like a broken record..

At least Amy can explain why she feels a certain way and disagree like a human being...

What I would like to know is this...

How many Democrats would get elected if this gets passed?
Only the ones who vote against it...

Yesterday over 67 million gun owners didn't kill anyone, but they will vote when the time comes...

well bigtom


your post says it all

How many?
ZERO

it's political

now that we got that out in the open, we can all honestly agree with it

the NRA holds people hostage, so to say, as does the church, and its all to the republican/
Bush favor, we can all agree to it

I 100% agree with your statement.
ZERO democrats will get elected if the NRA says NO
because the NRA is too rigid

now we can argue the non-political point

do you bigtom, want someone you sold the gun too, to kill an innocent person, and they blame you because your fingerprints are on the gun
If your re-sold gun was tracked as being sold, you would be innocent.

btw-a personal note-
you bigtom and I, are on my side, I consider you an Obama fan, so as anything I say about Obama hater do not apply to you.
You and I are on the same side.

bigtom,

The proposed legislation's intent is to :
1. keep track of who owns handguns
2. make sure handgun owners are knowledgeable about firearm safety
3. keep guns out the hands of the mentally ill

Why would anyone object to those standards?

And the age old argument that the "bad guys" won't abide by the laws is pretty lame. Should we have no laws that put restrictions on people's behavior because the "bad guys" won't abide by those laws?

bigtom-
I don't consider you a loon

you have said you are middle area
blue dog democratic is okay with you

so why are you arguing a libertarian view point? an almost zealot view point on this one issue?

that is what I don't understand

why is this issue different than any of the others?

I don't see anyone asking for repeal of driving liscenes

G4 of course we are on the same side!
I am disappointed In Obama so far, but the alternative would have been WORSE...

To answer both of Y'all..

I do not want the government tracking me or my guns...
I do not trust them to do that.

I do think that if someone is stupid enough to bring a gun to a town hall meeting they should go to jail.

I follow the existing laws, but a crimanal does not. He or she should be punished under existing law.
New regulations serve to only punish the law abiding gun owners.

If the police were at my door I would not even think about pulling a gun.

And yes it does have a political side. IMO it would be political suicide to pass
a handgun ban in the USA...

Obama is smarter than that.

it shows

ALL lobbyist groups are too powerful, no matter which ones
and that power gets to frame any issue, so that they distort what it really means

at end of day, more legislation wouldn't hurt you personally
may cost you ten bucks a year more, but won't mean a hill of beans to you either way

and maybe it would save some lives
couldn't make it any worse
but it wouldn't take your guns for hunting or protection away either

and Obama knows it
and Obama has done NOTHING to infringe your rights either, and you know it

Well said.

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Well said.
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Agreed. I see G4 is going to be a project on this topic.

Sanity does exist on this forum