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XicanoPwr
Is this the same Triad Management Systems connected to Koch Industries and discussed in "What's the Matter with Kansas?"

From "What's the Matter with Kansas?", p. 81-82 by Thomas Frank...

"...The Kansas sensibility with which Vernon Smith is most closely connected is not that of populism, but Koch Industries, the nation's second-largest privately held company. Based in Wichita, Koch's primary business is oil, but is far better known for its owners' openhanded political activities than for its petroleum operations. The founder of the dunasty, Fred Koch, was a charter member of the John Birch Soceity. His billionaire son Charles founded the libertarian Cato Institute in 1977, and another billionaire son, David, ran for vice president on the Libertarian ticket in 1980. Koch money flowed through Triad Management Services, which delivered such crucial assistance to Sam Brownback's Senate campaign in 1996; and Koch money, mingled with the money of so many other oil interests,supported the presidential campaign of George W. Bush."

Triad Management Services web site is http://www.t-msi.com

This company's website is registered to The Kaseman Companies - based in VA.

CEO Daniel M. Kaseman donated up to $10,000 to University of Toledo Foundation.

So he has a connection to Ohio.

There's another weird thing - the Toledo Blade seems to have gone to court to force this foundation - which is separate from the University - to disclose who its contributors are and what the money is use for:

http://www.case.org/files/AffiliatedFoundations/pdfs/OH...

http://www.triadmsi.com = http://www.t-msi.com

Triad does have some legal problems
FEC v. TRIAD MANAGEMENT SERVICES (02CV1237)
On June 21, 2002, the Commission asked the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to find that Triad Management Services, Triad Management Services, Inc., (collectively Triad) and Carolyn Malenick violated the Federal Election Campaign Act (Act) during the 1996 federal election cycle. The Commission alleges that Ms. Malenick and Triad violated the Act by, among other things, failing to register and file as a political committee and accepting and making excessive and prohibited contributions. 2 U.S.C. §§ 433, 434, 441a(a)(1), 441a(f) and 441b.

Background
According to its 1996 promotional materials, Triad was a consulting firm devoted to keeping the Republican majority in Congress. From 1995 to 1996, Ms. Malenick operated Triad Management Services as a sole proprietorship, and she became the president, sole director and owner of Triad Management Services, Inc., when Triad incorporated in May 1996. The Commission began its investigation of Triad in response to a series of administrative complaints filed between 1996 and 1998. After failing to reach a conciliation agreement with the defendants, the Commission filed this court complaint.

more:
http://www.fec.gov/law/litigation_CCA_FEC_T.shtml#fec_t...

Guess what
Triad Management's owner Carolyn Malenick is President, Triad Management Services, a for-profit business whose purpose is to provide expert services to its clients – conservative political donors; former consultant, VPAC; director of development, Freedom Alliance; former assistant to North Defense Trust; former consultant for Lt. Col. Oliver North on various projects; former administrative assistant to the president, the Viguerie Company; former account assistant, the Viguerie Company; former audio service coordinator, Old-Time Gospel Hour, Lynchburg, Virginia; former volunteer, Kemp for President campaign; 1980 Reagan/Bush campaign work; 1980-1981, direct mailings for Moral Majority, Inc. Manassas, Virginia.


A member from DU this doing a google search (gotta love google)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%...%22&btnG=Search

On triad gsi and triad management systems another DU found this on google
QUOTE
"Triad GSI" and "Triad Management Systems". Quick read looks like research on Triad. Also looks like the page was removed sometime after 12/19.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:0SrzMSq...ad+GSI%22&hl=en

Here is a summary from the link:
"Triad, or Tactical Resources in American Democracy was founded in 1995, Triad was a profit-making company that funnelled money into Congressional races through two tax-exempt groups associated with it, mainly Citizens for Reform and Citizens for the Republic Education Fund.

Neither of the two nonprofit groups associated with Triad was active before the 1996 election. One existed only on paper as of Oct. 11, 1996, when it opened a bank account.

In the next 20 days, from Oct. 11 to Oct. 31, the group, Citizens for Reform, received $1.6 million from Triad donors in 12 bank transactions. By Oct. 31, $1.4 million of this money had been spent on advertisements, documents show. A second Triad-affiliated nonprofit group received $1.7 million in late October for television attack advertisements.

Triad raised money from conservative donors and sent it to the nonprofit groups that bought so-called issue advertisements on television attacking Democrats and supporting Republican candidates and causes.

Mr. Braden said some Triad donors had been so concerned about secrecy that they insisted on having written agreements with Triad that their names would not be disclosed unless Triad was ordered to do so by the courts. Still, Mr. Braden said, the majority of Triad's donors had been primarily attracted by the conservative candidates that Triad supported and less by a promise of anonymity."

PBS did a piece on Triad Management System and it is a good on.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sh...al/etc/ads.html

QUOTE
During 1996 the Triad -controlled nonprofit, Citizens for the Republic Education Fund, spent more than $1.3 million on ads, radio and direct mail targeting 13 races - including an ad (view video below) opposing Jill Dockings' Senate candidacy in Kansas. It was supposedly an "issue ad" - meaning an ad not supporting or attacking any specific candidate. However, if this Docking ad looks indeed like a political advertisement to you, consider it your introduction to one of the most popular loopholes in our current campaign finance system - the "issue ads."


Looks it is time to do more dirt digging.
XicanoPwr
So you want to but a President

The players
Dwayne Andreas: Perhaps America's champion all-time campaign contributor is Dwayne Orville Andreas. Although virtually unknown to most Americans, since the 1970s, leading politicians of both parties have been well acquainted with Andreas, his company, and his money.

The 77-year-old Andreas rose from modest circumstances to become chairman of the Archer-Daniels-Midland Company, which is based in Decatur, Illinois, and is the largest U.S. processor of farm commodities such as wheat, corn and soybeans.

A statue of Ronald Reagan occupies a place of honor at A.D.M.'s headquarters.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/pr...rs/andreas.html

Ernest Gallo:The Gallos learned the value of political connections as they built their wine empire and dealt with liquor regulators at the national, state, and sometimes county levels. They contributed to the campaigns of then-Congressman Leon Panetta, US Senator Alan Cranston, and California Governor Pete Wilson. In 1978, Cranston pushed an amendment custom-tailored to allow the family to spread inheritance tax payments out over several years through the Senate. The move saved the Gallos millions of dollars. As the family has grown, so has its fortune, and Ernest has long been anxious to protect the business he plans to leave to his heirs. He wrote recently, "I look forward to [my grandchildren] coming into their winery.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/pr...yers/gallo.html

Carl Lindner: Cincinnati businessman with international interests ranging from banking to bananas, is one of the nation's wealthiest men. His frequent, abundant contributions to political candidates and parties have put him at times in the public spotlight.

Lindner gives heavily to political campaigns. While his contributions in Cincinnati and Ohio heavily favor Republicans, in national races he gives generously to both sides. Since 1988, Lindner and his associates and companies have given $650,000 in soft money to the Democrats and $1.5 million to the Republicans, according to Common Cause, a Washington watchdog group. Lindner, his family, and business associates also make donations directly to politicians. Among them: $106,000 to George Bush's presidential campaigns in 1988 and 1992; and $172,500 to Senator Robert Dole since 1980. In a field of the "top ten career patrons" of Senator Dole, Lindner ranks seventh, reports the Center for Public Integrity, a nonpartisan Washington public interest research group. Dole has also made frequent use of private jets owned by the Lindner family -- twelve flights in 1995 alone, according to the Federal Election Commission.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/pr...rs/lindner.html

Wendy Gramm: Her husband Senator Phil Gramm of Texas is a candidate for the Republican Presidential nomination.

In 1979, Phil Gramm, then a Democrat, was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. Five years later in 1984, he switched his party affiliation to the GOP and won the Senate seat that he still occupies. The move to Washington began a succession of appointed federal jobs for Mrs. Gramm. She headed the economics bureau of the Federal Trade Commission's Division of Consumer Protection and served as administrator of information and deregulatory affairs in the Office of Management and Budget. In 1987 The New York Times described her as "one of the Reagan administration's most vigorous deregulators." President Reagan called her "my favorite economist," naming her chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the powerful regulatory agency which oversees the nation's commodities and futures exchanges.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/pr...yers/gramm.html

John Sculley: Sculley turned his attention to politics, in the early 1990s. His first efforts were on behalf of Republican Tom Campbell, who in 1992 was running in California for a US Senate seat. Sculley hosted a fund-raising fete for Campbell at his ranch in Woodside. But by then, Sculley had grown disenchanted with the technology policies of the Bush Administration. He had also become acquainted with Hillary Rodham Clinton, serving with her on a national education council. When Bill Clinton ran for President Sculley threw his support to him.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/pr...rs/sculley.html
FormerCIA
http://www.mcleanllc.com/news/news_10.html


Largest Staffing Firm Merger in Washington Region
McLean Group Advises Acquired Firm


MCLEAN, VA (Oct. 2, 2003) ? In one of the largest staffing firm deals in the region this year, Kaseman Corporation of Chantilly, Virginia, has acquired Triad Management Systems, Inc., of Rockville. The McLean Group served as financial advisors to Triad.


About The McLean Group
The McLean Group is a privately owned investment bank that provides merger and acquisition (M&A), business valuation, capital formation, corporate finance and litigation support services to clients generating from $5 million to $300 million in annual revenues.

More information is available on The McLean Group?s web site at
http://www.mcleanllc.com.


Contact Information:
Eva Catlin
Director, Marketing
(703) 827-0200, ext. 111
FormerCIA
Triad Management System
15245 Shady Grove Road,
Ste. 350
Rockville 20850
301-840-054
301-840-828
(Fax)
Triadmsi.com
IT, human resources,
accounting, and finance
searchingforsanity
QUOTE(XicanoPwr @ Dec 29 2004, 08:11 PM)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%...%22&btnG=Search

On triad gsi and triad management systems another DU found this on google

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:0SrzMSq...ad+GSI%22&hl=en

Here is a summary from the link:
"Triad, or Tactical Resources in American Democracy was founded in 1995, Triad was a profit-making company that funnelled money into Congressional races through two tax-exempt groups associated with it, mainly Citizens for Reform and Citizens for the Republic Education Fund.
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Here is what I think about the name changes, the acronym, the google search and the references to God:

:ph34r:
FormerCIA
http://www.tiaonline.org/events/ventures2003summer/

Participating Venture Capital Firms:

The following were some of the VC firms that participated in TIA Ventures 2003 -- many of whom served as company presentation evaluators.

Spencer Trask Communications
Edison Venture Partners
Intel Capital
The McLean Group LLC
eCentury Capital
Optical Capital Group
Telecommunications Development Fund
Nokia Venture Partners
Novak Biddle Venture Partners
NextGen Capital
Endeavor Capital
The Carlyle Group
Core Capital Partners
Minerva Seed Fund
DynaFund Ventures
Monumental Venture Partners
Portview Communications Partners
FormerCIA
http://dcpages.com/Business/Banks_and_Finance/more2.shtml

The Carlyle Group
The Carlyle Group is a private global investment firm which originates, structures and acts as lead equity investor in management-led buyouts, strategic minority equity investments, equity private placements, consolidations and build-ups, and growth capital financings. Formed in 1987, The Carlyle Group has invested over $5.3 billion of equity in 200 corporate and real estate transactions with an aggregate acquisition value of over $14 billion.


The McLean Group LLC
The McLean Group LLC is a privately owned investment bank providing merger and acquisition (M&A), capital formation, corporate finance, business valuation and litigation support services to middle-market businesses.

Both companies located in McLean VA.
FormerCIA
News Release
Mid-Atlantic M&A Conference and Capital Forum
Association for Corporate Growth Event Draws Big Crowd


MCLEAN, VA (May 22, 2003) ? The Ninth Annual ACG Mid-Atlantic M&A Conference and Capital Forum was held this week at the Ritz-Carlton in Tysons Corner, attracting some 320 attendees from throughout the business world.


The two-day conference, sponsored by The National Capital Chapter of The Association for Corporate Growth, was attended by CEOs, CFOs, entrepreneurs, venture capitalists, M&A specialists, accountants, attorneys and others, all interested in hearing lively case studies, market updates and panel discussions. Special keynote speaker Ed Mathias of The Carlyle Group opened the show.


Tony Cancelosi and Braun Jones of The McLean Group, along with Jon Korin of Northrop Grumman Information Technology and Keith Mendelson of Womble Carlyle, welcomed the large crowd, each giving a brief overview of what was in store for the attendees. Rod Buck and Herb Ezrin of The McLean Group and Potomac Business Group, respectively, co-chaired the new Capital Forum, a private equity showcase and networking event that was kicked off with a reception the evening before the conference began and was followed by an exhibition the following day that gave Conference attendees the opportunity to interact with leading private equity firms from around the country.


The goal of the Conference and Forum organizers was to design a program that would appeal to businesses large and small, high tech to manufacturing, commercial to government contracting, as well as to M&A and equity professionals of all types.


About The McLean Group
The McLean Group is a privately owned investment bank that provides merger and acquisition (M&A), business valuation, capital formation, corporate finance and litigation support services to clients generating from $5 million to $300 million in annual revenues.

Contact Information:
Eva Catlin
Director, Marketing
(703) 827-0200, ext. 111
wliberty
Does any of this answer the question, is Triad Voting Mahines connected to Triad Management? unsure.gif
EVDebs
wliberty

We need people in the states of OH and MD and VA to do research in the counties and towns where these companies are located.

Triad GSI in Xenia OH. Triad Management Services in Rockville MD and possibly Kaseman Companies McLean VA

See the other postings in this thread. County records showing deeds of trust/mortgages etc where money is changing hands would be extremely important. These are matters of public record also so no problems with FOIAs.
mommadona
BOY - are we onna roll or WHAT!?

(Hmmmmmmmm - 10 guests at this moment......on this thread...hmmmmm) rolleyes.gif
XicanoPwr
QUOTE(mommadona @ Dec 29 2004, 05:59 PM)
BOY - are we onna roll or WHAT!?

(Hmmmmmmmm - 10 guests at this moment......on this thread...hmmmmm) rolleyes.gif
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Momma, shhhh....you are scarying our guest. tongue.gif
XicanoPwr
QUOTE(EVDebs @ Dec 29 2004, 05:52 PM)
wliberty

We need people in the states of OH and MD and VA to do research in the counties and towns where these companies are located. 

See the other postings in this thread.  County records showing deeds of trust/mortgages etc where money is changing hands would be extremely important.  These are matters of public record also so no problems with FOIAs.
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I am pretty sure our residential spook is on the job and will post more info for us. :D
FormerCIA
He He :D

On the job...

http://www.t-msi.com/

Technology & Management Staffing, Inc. provides quality staffing solutions in the areas of Information Technology, Human Resources and Accounting / Finance. Our marketing and technical recruiting teams are skilled at matching your company's culture and position requirements to the individual skills, styles and goals of our contract professionals. We also participate in the National Industrial Security Program.

Information Technology Contract Services - (more info)
Our IT Contract Services division can help ease the worklife of your technical staff, by providing you with experienced technicians whom we have meticulously screened, interviewed and evaluated. Our professionals will prove to be an asset to your organization.


Translation: If you need some discreet work done, we have a bunch of ex spooks for hire. lol.gif lol.gif
PaineInTheArse
QUOTE(mommadona @ Dec 29 2004, 07:59 PM)
BOY - are we onna roll or WHAT!?

(Hmmmmmmmm - 10 guests at this moment......on this thread...hmmmmm) rolleyes.gif
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Everyone wave to the freepers!!!!!!! See ya in DC at Kerry's inauguration.
mommadona
QUOTE(FormerCIA @ Dec 29 2004, 05:16 PM)
He He  :D

On the job...

http://www.t-msi.com/

Technology & Management Staffing, Inc. provides quality staffing solutions in the areas of Information Technology, Human Resources and Accounting / Finance.  Our marketing and technical recruiting teams are skilled at matching your company's culture and position requirements to the individual skills, styles and goals of our contract professionals.  We also participate in the National Industrial Security Program.

Information Technology Contract Services - (more info)
Our IT Contract Services division can help ease the worklife of your technical staff, by providing you with experienced technicians whom we have meticulously screened, interviewed and evaluated.  Our professionals will prove to be an asset to your organization.
Translation: If you need some discreet work done, we have a bunch of ex spooks for hire. lol.gif lol.gif
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Soooooo! - Let's see. With the "GOSS-OUT" at the CIA....how many of those "disenfranchised" deputies and asst. deputies are gonna find solace in that euphemistic "private sector" we fondly call the "unknown private security force"...I hear Venezuela is lovely this time of year...what with spring and all..... rolleyes.gif
EVDebs
FormerCIA and all

I came across this thread on the DU blog....very interesting connection with an oil company and Triad GSI mentioned

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu..._id=208524&page

""Washington Post article on TRIAD: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/c...

Other article: http://www.sptimes.com/News/101899/Worldandnation/Tax_l...

Others Linked To This Triad: Cooperative Computing Inc. merged with Triad, becoming Cooperative Computing Inc/Triad or CCI/Triad.

Edgington Oil Co. CCI/Triad sold it for roughly $175 Mil. To Stay In Business

Odyssey Online, LLC, by Cox, Keller & Rowland, 85 W. Main St., Xenia, 453852913; members: Tod A. Rapp
http://attorneypages.com/details.php/23504_9019_526_209...

Could someone who knows about the technology associated with voting machines see if anything on these links is fishy:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/tools /
http://www.aheartsease.com/html/links.php?/Computers/So... /

These guys claim to have the most comprehensive product on the market today:
http://capitoladvantage.com/elections.html
I found this by clicking to register to vote in any state on another site, which took me here: https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/e4/nvra/?action=form...
If you delete everything past the .com, it goes to the capitaladvantage site. Thought it was weird that the site you could supposedly register at was the ssl.capwiz and that if you include congress in the address, but delete anything after that, it goes to congress.org. " This is just a snippet from the DU bloggers post.
FormerCIA
I love it. :D :D :D
searchingforsanity
QUOTE
Edgington Oil Co. CCI/Triad sold it for roughly $175 Mil. To Stay In Business

Odyssey Online, LLC, by Cox, Keller & Rowland, 85 W. Main St., Xenia, 453852913; members: Tod A. Rapp
http://attorneypages.com/details.php/23504_9019_526_209...

Could someone who knows about the technology associated with voting machines see if anything on these links is fishy:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/tools /
http://www.aheartsease.com/html/links.php?/Computers/So... /


So are the Rapps going to take the rap? lol.gif

IBM, hmmm!
FormerCIA
QUOTE(FormerCIA @ Dec 29 2004, 07:16 PM)
He He  :D

On the job...

http://www.t-msi.com/

Technology & Management Staffing, Inc. provides quality staffing solutions in the areas of Information Technology, Human Resources and Accounting / Finance.  Our marketing and technical recruiting teams are skilled at matching your company's culture and position requirements to the individual skills, styles and goals of our contract professionals.  We also participate in the National Industrial Security Program.

Information Technology Contract Services - (more info)
Our IT Contract Services division can help ease the worklife of your technical staff, by providing you with experienced technicians whom we have meticulously screened, interviewed and evaluated.  Our professionals will prove to be an asset to your organization.
Translation: If you need some discreet work done, we have a bunch of ex spooks for hire. lol.gif lol.gif
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http://www.dss.mil/isec/nispom_0195.htm

National Industrial Security Program
Operating Manual
(NISPOM)

·

January 1995

·

Department of Defense

Department of Energy

Nuclear Regulatory Commission

Central Intelligence Agency

ISBN 0-16-045560-X
XicanoPwr
QUOTE(EVDebs @ Dec 29 2004, 08:11 PM)
FormerCIA and all

I came across this thread on the DU blog....very interesting connection with an oil company and Triad GSI mentioned

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu..._id=208524&page

""Washington Post article on TRIAD: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/c...

Other article: http://www.sptimes.com/News/101899/Worldandnation/Tax_l...

Others Linked To This Triad: Cooperative Computing Inc. merged with Triad, becoming Cooperative Computing Inc/Triad or CCI/Triad.

Edgington Oil Co. CCI/Triad sold it for roughly $175 Mil. To Stay In Business

Odyssey Online, LLC, by Cox, Keller & Rowland, 85 W. Main St., Xenia, 453852913; members: Tod A. Rapp
http://attorneypages.com/details.php/23504_9019_526_209...

Could someone who knows about the technology associated with voting machines see if anything on these links is fishy:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/tools /
http://www.aheartsease.com/html/links.php?/Computers/So... /

These guys claim to have the most comprehensive product on the market today:
http://capitoladvantage.com/elections.html
I found this by clicking to register to vote in any state on another site, which took me here: https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/e4/nvra/?action=form...
If you delete everything past the .com, it goes to the capitaladvantage site. Thought it was weird that the site you could supposedly register at was the ssl.capwiz and that if you include congress in the address, but delete anything after that, it goes to congress.org.  "  This is just a snippet from the DU bloggers post.
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You know I was reading some where either on DU or another Blog (I can not remember, I to check my history) that this person's sister who is a journalist said the Traid Government is the same as CCI/Triad.

Then one the same thread, somebody came out strongly against and convinced alot of people, so they stoped the research. I wonder why they would do that when an investigative journalist made that link.

It seems like these freepers are very convincing when they want people to stop investigating. I noticed that it is the same way in DU. I posted FormerCIA's finding's on DU and no respond except for one.

QUOTE
Okay, enthusiastic googlers.

Do keep them all straight.

We have at least three Triads here.

1. The Triad Governmental Systems, Inc. (Triad GSI)
In Xenia Ohio, apparently an old, small Rapp family venture involved in punch cards and voter registration in Ohio, and a bit in Florida, (and maybe Tennessee -- can't remember).

2. The Triad mentioned in Thomas Frank's book, having to do with the Koch people (Koch does a TON of stuff that we don't like, folks, and they stay WAY below the radar. It's a huge private firm dealing in energy and such.)

3. CCI/Triad. I think this one is based in Texas.

I agree that sometimes evildoers will use similar names to try to throw trackers off the trail. It might also make financial transactions easy -- write a check to one Triad, have a different one cash it. But, don't mix the three until you have proof they are linked.

There are lots of names like Triad and Triton, in general, AND associated with the bad guys. Keep 'em separate though, unless you have proof (aside from someone mentioning them both on their tripod webpage -- dang, there's that "tri-" again!)


That really sounds like a person who is trying to stop truth seekers from investigating. Also that post came one hour after I posted FormerCIA's findings and it wasn't addressed to my post. Yet, we were able to attract up to 11 guests. HMMMM

I think we are going somewhere and these freepers are afraid.
FormerCIA
If I had a company called Triad and I found out that someone was using the same name and they were also in the IT field, my attorneys would be on their case in a second.
XicanoPwr
QUOTE(FormerCIA @ Dec 30 2004, 04:50 AM)
If I had a company called Triad and I found out that someone was using the same name and they were also in the IT field, my attorneys would be on their case in a second.
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That was my thinking also.
EVDebs
FormerCIA

Your mention in the quoted post below of DSS, the DoD's Defense Security Service is pertinent to this discussion of possible ways to subvert the vote of 2004 in the history of DSS. DSS got its new name because it was involved, by commanding the Military Intelligence Groups across the US, which in 1968 were watching MLK in Memphis etc. After congressional hearings and the exposure of the then US ASA --Army Security Agency-- which had command and control of this domestic spying operation,

"...On 1 January 1977, Headquarters, US Army Security Agency was redesignated as Headquarters, US Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM)....The second major antecedent of INSCOM was the USAINTA which performed Army counterintelligence functions in the Continental United States (CONUS) along with certain HUMINT missions." The parent acronyms have spawned the unit that is now the DSS.

Also see "Intelligence: The Pentagon—Spying in America?"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5197014/site/newsweek/

I ain't making this stuff up. So when the military dumps its vote-by-internet program this year but the general public is force-fed electronic and other non-verifiable vote machne methods, you may rightly ask the question "Is what was good for the military good for the general public ?"

You may also rightly question whether the military had/has a domestic operation designed to alter or affect the 2004 Presidential Election. Especially in time of war.


QUOTE(FormerCIA @ Dec 29 2004, 07:43 PM)
http://www.dss.mil/isec/nispom_0195.htm

National Industrial Security Program
Operating Manual
(NISPOM)

·

January 1995

·

Department of Defense

Department of Energy

Nuclear Regulatory Commission

Central Intelligence Agency

ISBN 0-16-045560-X
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EVDebs
all

Ooops, I forgot to credit
http://www.psitech.net/newsletter/062503/inscom.html
for my quote above on the USAINTA and predecessors information.

They changed US ASA's acronym after the hearings in the '70's that exposed these domestic military ops.
FormerCIA
http://www.publicintegrity.org/oil/report.aspx?aid=347

Koch's Low Profile Belies Political Power
Private oil company does both business and politics with the shades drawn

By Bob Williams and Kevin Bogardus

WASHINGTON, July 15, 2004
Koch Industries could be the biggest oil company you have never heard of?unless, that is, you hang around the halls of government in Washington.


Koch Industries (pronounced "coke") is a huge oil conglomerate controlled by brothers Charles and David Koch, two of the country's richest men and among the biggest backers of conservative and libertarian causes. With estimated revenue of about $40 billion last year, Koch is bigger than Microsoft, Merrill Lynch and AT&T.

Koch is the leading campaign contributor among oil and gas companies for the 2004 election cycle, giving $587,000 so far. Next came Valero Energy at $568,000.

Since 1998, Koch is the fourth biggest campaign oil and gas industry giver, behind ChevronTexaco, El Paso Corp. and Enron Corp.

Despite its size and political largesse, Koch is able to dodge the limelight because it is privately-held, meaning that nearly all of its business dealings are known primarily only by the company and the Internal Revenue Service. In fact, it is the second largest private company in the country, trailing only food processing giant Cargill.

Koch also prefers to operate in private when it comes to politics and government.

Although it is both a top campaign contributor and spends millions on direct lobbying, Koch's chief political influence tool is a web of interconnected, right-wing think tanks and advocacy groups funded by foundations controlled and supported by the two Koch brothers.

Among those groups are some of the country's most prominent conservative and libertarian voices including the Cato Institute, the Reason Foundation, Citizens for a Sound Economy and the Federalist Society. All regularly beat the drum in official Washington for the causes the Koch's hold dear?minimal government, deregulation, and free market economics.

For the Kochs, conservative and libertarian views are a family tradition. Fred Koch, who founded the company's predecessor in 1940, helped establish the ultra right-wing John Birch Society.
XicanoPwr
Inauguration Fund Drive Draws Big Money

WASHINGTON (AP) - Ford Motor Co. (F), Time Warner Inc. (TWX) and Home Depot Inc. (HD) are among the big corporations donating funds for President Bush's reinauguration ceremonies, according to a list released Friday.

More than $13 million has been donated by corporations and individuals to fund the festivities, the Presidential Inauguration Committee reported.

The committee announced almost 50 new contributors, including 12 who donated $250,000, the maximum amount sought.

Besides Ford, Time Warner and Home Depot, the big spenders include the National Association of Homebuilders, based in Washington; Hunt Consolidated Inc. of Dallas; UST Inc. (UST) of Greenwich, Conn.; and First Data Corp. (FDC) of Greenwood Village, Colo.

Marriott International Inc. (MAR), Marriott Vacation Club International and the Marriott-owned Ritz-Carlton Hotel Co. each donated $250,000.

Sheldon G. Adelson and Dr. Miriam Ochshorn Adelson of Las Vegas each contributed the maximum amount. Sheldon Adelson is chairman of the board of Las Vegas Sands Inc., a hotel and gaming company.

The committee said three weeks ago that it planned to raise $40 million to $50 million for the inaugural events, scheduled for Jan. 18-21.
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Isn't Hunt the same company that also owns voting machines?
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