QUOTE(billfmsd @ Jan 5 2005, 04:12 AM)
The only problem for a right-winger is learning how to accept that other people don't accept the status quo. Right-wingers want to give in to instincts.... In order for right-wingers to accomplish their ultimate goal, they need to completely reverse civilization from their lives and return to the cave..... We don't know what is at the end of eachothers road, so we fear it. We both think the other is headed in the wrong direction. ....right-wingers are more correct that we can live in the cave (or garden of eden to them) because we know that we've lived there before. Civilization is the big unknown because we don't know where it ends.
Awh, you have
stumbled onto the
Conundrum.
I find this symbol of the Cave to be most interesting. Caves may be where man came from, but according to may stories of the End-of-the-World that is where he is going. I am reminded that in the Bible David lived in caves as he hide from the mad King Saul (in much the same way bin Laden hid from Bush). In symbolic terms I see everything outside the cave as cililization, the big unknown, as you called it. The other symbol for man's achievement outside the cave is the mythical tower of babel. The tale of the Tower of Babel is an "explanation" of why there are so many different languages (ie, memes, religious movements, etc). If the tower of Babel symbolized humanity in rebellion against God in their attempt to ascend to heaven, then the Cave must symbolise the return to Garden of Eden--to our zero point--to perfection or Heaven. Babel comes from the Hebrew word pronounced baw-bel, meaning confusion. Jesus said blessed are the poor in spirit "for they shall have the earth for their possession." The psychologist M. Scott Peck famously observes this could have been translated "blessed are those in confusion." The idea here is blest are those who know their need of God, verse the alternative. Again we see the Conundrum, one word--two opposing meanings. This kind of paradox is everywhere--and we will see it everywhere if we dig deep enough.
What is the Cave?
I believe the Cave is a symbol of the womb--a symbol of being born again. Of course, one cannot literally return to the womb as Jesus explained to Nicademous. Poor Nic didn't get it, like so many right-wingers he just couldn't get past his literal understand of scripture. The womb is begining a new, or an new begining. Will this be a literal event--a comet passing near the earth for example? Perhaps, but it is most certainly a spiritual thing. It is said Babel symbolized humanity in rebellion against God in their attempt to ascend to heaven. But it is a mistake to think heaven is forbidden, and an even great mistake to think it must be ascended to--it can not. Heaven is not some pie-in-the-sky-when-you-die, it is rather found in the here and now--on the earth. Heaven and Hell are what we make of our lives in this present reality. Jesus shamed Niademous, a teacher of Isreal for not understanding his words "you must be be born again." In the same way, we must enter our spiritual Cave, and come out a new spiritual person. We must unlearn the falsehood of the literal and dispense with the illution of the physical--we must learn matter doesn't matter. We must be made new--find a new begining and meaning to our being--and it is to our eternal shame if we do not.
I speak of the Conundrum, the connection of all things...
...The Law of One:
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The most important belief within the Law of One is that "All is One, One is All." Following from this, and also reflecting the Golden Rule found in most religions, the Law of One holds that each should treat others as they would want to be treated themselves. The rationale held by the Law of One is that since everyone is all ultimately One, in hurting another one is ultimately hurting oneself.
