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Scandal: Did Expatriate & SoldierVote COUNT?
author: CultureJamCleveland

U.S. CitiZeNs; ON The FrontLines Of Int. Relations- DID Expat.
& SoldierVote get Left Behind?

A Pivotal, Hotly contested 'election of a lifetime' spurring
Worldwide interest saw OverSeas Voters registration increase
fourfold as these Americans are the Country's spokespeople, and
best face forward. Recalcitrant insistence on conflict creating
perpetual war, was on the table for We Decide, you saw the
BillBoards reminding US whose Will was to be measured- The People's! RiP van
Winkle Voters came out of the woodwork, contributing herculean
volunteer efforts & enthusiasm were unprecendented and
encouraging. NEVER in U.S. Presidential politics have MASSIVE
crowds shown up to endorse an incumbent. But to throw out, Reject
malfeasence and Get Rid of incompetence!

The 51st state, as
American's abroad were called
because of it's swing potential, an estimated 4million civilians
and 500,000 military, of course many in dubious, difficult,
dangerous and DeaDly situations, it's numbers giving it an impact
larger than the 24 smallest states. Participation was cool this
time,
many expressing eager desire to voice their vote. Also though, a
haunting anxiety that the systemic flaws characteristic of
confusing procedures and snafus investigated by the GAO in previous
efforts at smooth and fair election process run by a mosaic of federal
& state agencies would DisCount NOT AcCount accurately the absentee
Vote. Expatriates tend heavily liberal, outnumber military
significantly and the soldiers
especially rank and file were said to be more mixed, varied not so
monolothic, or predictable as usually seen said veterans of multiple
elections. However, the pentagon, which for some reason took over
from the state department, the handling of ballots, was criticized
for registration websites not working, unequal mishandling of the
CivilianVote, absentee ballots mailed late in 8 of 15 swing states,
ballots hard to get, too many hoops to jump through and doubts
whether they would get back in time, count and be honored fairly as
a private firm owned by a republican donor and of the reelection
team, was handling ballots historically counted at local levels.
Typically 8% of absentee votes are discarded, with Bush possibly
winning the popular vote by 2-3%, HOW assured at Legit can we be?
when you also ADD the percents lost of provisionals thrown out, the
undervotes thrown out, unequal distribution of election hardware,
not random in the stunting of turnout toward one of the choices,
including GAINS from unreal certification of results with more
votes than voters, when the long lines were in the democratic
precints!. Registration going up, up, UP Machines going DOWN, down,
down, dOH! What level of fraud is sufficient to BeSmirch
Confidence? Reports below abound of systemic pre-election
suppression and NOW BlackOut and silence of OverSeas results are
Signs of a Sinister Scandal. These OverSeas American's are ambassadors, this
vote should not be treated cavalierly but be traceable, honored and
COUNTED, foreigners, frontlines in someone elses HomeLand, they
REALLY understand Vote or Die. I asked my roomate for a historical
quote which could speak to this unseemly realization, scenario
we've allowed to happen? She said there is NONE, because it has
never happened before. So I say, an UNprecendented, UNheard of,
UNfair, UNacceptable, UNnatural Results can only be Remedied,
Adjudicated, Balanced by SomeThing that hasn't happened before a
NewVote to Ameliorate this WaterShed MoMent! POST AS COMMENTS WHAT
YOU'VE HEARD, FOUND OUT, RESEARCHED ON THE ACCURACY & VALIDITY OF
OVERSEAS VOTE COUNTS. NO SoldiersVote Left Behind.
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WARNING:
31 It should be clear that more is at stake than the presidency
itself. Use of computerized vote counting
will only increase, as mandated by law. Vote counting is the
bedrock protocol of a democracy and
meaningful reform of a broken counting system is dependent on an
expression of public will ultimately
exercised at the ballot box and fairly, accurately, and honestly
tabulated. If the system has broken down
and is no longer counting accurately and honestly, there is no
effective democratic mechanism to bring
pressure upon a governing majority to reform a vote counting status
quo which is seen to work in its favor.
This is, as may be seen, a potentially crippling catch-22 for a democracy.


full rePort= http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/01/307897.shtml

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FOUND THIS BY ACCIDENT AND MOVED IT TO THE FRONT OF THIS REPORT!

November 08, 2004
Can I still vote? It depends...
A highly unusual email sent from the Pentagon to Voting Information
Officers at US military installations around the world ON ELECTION
DAY contained a very specific reminder that it was not too late to
vote in OHIO, clearly explained why, and encouraged one last bit of
taxpayer-funded GOP GOTV. Is this criminal? It should be. It is
certainly unpatriotic and un-American.

http://www.aokerry.com/aok/2004/11/can_i_still_vot.html#more


PLUTOCRATS DID NOT GIVE THEIR MOM'S THE RIGHT TO VOTE TILL 1920

RESIST The Privatizing of Truth!
edowling
QUOTE(spacebuddy008 @ Jan 17 2005, 03:28 PM)


Americans living overseas being denied the right to vote is just typical. Each and every person who blocked the right to vote before or on election day should be prosecuted, because it should be a felony to deny a person their Constitutional right to vote. Think about how many people are in prison for taking drugs; taking away the dignity of the vote is just as bad. It should be a Federal crime, and they should do Federal time.
Dichotomy
QUOTE(edowling @ Jan 17 2005, 04:40 PM)
...because it should be a felony to deny a person their Constitutional right to vote...
There is no Constitutional right to vote in the US. There is only equal protection clause which means they can deny accepting your vote as long as they would do it to anybody else under the exact same circumstances.
Dichotomy
This allows for Geographical differences, as it is considered your decision (or fault) to live where you want.
spacebuddy008
here is a post from the 14th with hmmmm results from jersey!

Jan 14 2005, 01:54 PM Post #1


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This is from DU. Thread contains links to specific counties.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...id=283934&page=


QUOTE
emcguffie (241 posts) Fri Jan-14-05 12:03 PM
Original message
The military vote in NJ

Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 12:04 PM by emcguffie
S0 far, none of the counties have anything posted in the line for the overseas/military vote. But Monmouth County posted theirs:

Kerry 275
Bush 72


emcguffie (241 posts) Fri Jan-14-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #5

8. Sorry, here's the link.

www.state.nj.us/lps/elections/
04_Municipality_pdf%27s/presidential_monmouth_co_2004.pdf

Is that a link that will work? Gee, how do you post it so it doesn't get cut off?

I had to put it on two lines to get the whole thing in.

Would some kind soul enlighten me?


genieroze (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-14-05 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #8

29. Look at this in Ocean County

http://www.state.nj.us/lps/elections/04_Municipality_pd...

I guess none of the blacks voted in the borough of South Toms River because * won there even though is predominately black, as is Manchester. * made a few "cough" trips to Ocean County to secure? the vote. Very interesting stats.


emcguffie (241 posts) Fri Jan-14-05 12:43 PM
Response to Original message

12. In Morris County ==

-- which is one of the few counties where Bush won, that I have seen so far (maybe the second), -- well, take a look.

In Morris County, the final vote tally was

Kerry 98,066 Bush 135,241

But the overseas/military vote was:

Kerry 489 Bush 230


emcguffie (241 posts) Fri Jan-14-05 12:49 PM
Response to Original message

13. another one

Sussex County. Kerry lost 98,066 to 135,241 for Bush.

But, overseas/military vote:

Kerry...71
Bush....28




Any news from other states?
edowling
QUOTE(Dichotomy @ Jan 17 2005, 03:47 PM)
There is no Constitutional right to vote in the US. There is only equal protection clause which means they can deny accepting your vote as long as they would do it to anybody else under the exact same circumstances.
*


Wait a minute... there is no place where the right to vote is at least "construed" to be a right? The earlier version of the Constitution states that every adult male may vote, and the later version includes women and minorities, and still later includes those 18 years old and older. Does the U.S. Constitution state that they must pay taxes but not be represented?
wpshreve
Contact Marvalene, votescamusa04@yahoo.com and see if she has anything on the military vote for Missouri.

I've pointed out that this is quite important, but traveling to the various precincts is not my field of expertise.

I know I've heard of Kerry winning the military vote big somewhere else and am very curious as to what happened in the rest of the country. If only those figures, even just a few from a few areas, could get out to the media and be picked up nationally, it would be a KO. I'd try KOlbermann and local unbiased newspapers first, then contact all other major media outlets. If the info stays only on the internet it's easily discounted and is worthless.
wpshreve
And I hope the people who have proof of the military vote are getting busy and informing the media. I'm not talking about the internet media.
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