Since the Clinton error crime rates have dropped I am not sure conservatism is the way to go. Some may convince you but the truth is since liberalism has been around crime has hit a record low. Go to the UCR to look. The gun issue well go ahead I am talking about autmatic weapons crime has dropped since it was banned. I belive you should own a gun but not just any gun. The UN says countries with more guns are prone to crime. I respect everyones right but thats the facts. I am not for changeing the constituition so certain peole can get their way. We are not taken constituition rights by regulated guns. Regulation is often confused with a ban. Even the media is regulated. And they are covered by the constituition.

Thanks... I respect your opinion respect mine cause its fact not opinion.

First off, the assault weapons ban didn't affect ANY automatic weapons. Only semi-auto weapons that basically "looked" scary. All of those weapons were still being sold, just under different names and without all the "scary" impliments that made them so-called assault weapons. Crimes with such weapons was below 5% with handguns being far prevalent.

Number 2. The UK and Australia... two countries with draconian crime bans have a HIGHER per capita crime victimization rate than the U.S. In fact, we are 14th in the world last I heard. Also, gun crimes in the UK are RISING... not falling which shows that excessive laws don't work... unless disarming you law abiding citizens is the goal. As the UK has proven, it just makes then easy prey to criminals.

Liberalism has nothing to do with it. Socialism doesn't seem to be working either when you look at crime rates in socialist countries. If you also look at the data, states with conceal carry laws are also seeing a definite slide in violent crime. The bottom line is that guns aren't the problem... people are.

I really recommend that Inanna and Revenge, you both watch or revisit 'Bowling for Columbine'.

Revenge, you talk of 'crimes in the UK and Australia' not murder with guns. There is a language gap there. Crimes can include things I would not call a crime, like absent minded shop lifting, even real shop-lifting if you are starving. Think of those with mental or with anxiety problems - not that I have done it - but I have been close and I understand how it can happen.

Also in socialist countries crimes may be higher than in capitalist countries, but when Russia freed itself of Communism it took a step back towards poverty, a huge one, and after that Russia terrorized Chechnyans with its state terrorism in fear that they would lose oil rights. That continued and worsened due to Putin being part of the 'war on terror' so-called.

Statistics are lies, because they can prove anything you like as long as you use them carefully, 5 percent drop in crimes. Does 9/11 count as one crime or 3000? (do you see my point) How are they arriving at the statistics - I would like to know where they come from and how they reached them. I think you could prove exactly the opposite point using a different method.

Does 'crimes and criminality' count in all the thousands of blacks in jails in America probably because of their color. Go to a British jail and I bet the statistics of black population and black criminals are almost the same. People do not target people for their color in Britain, it is illegal.

Granted, statistics aren't fool proof... but then neither is Micheal Moore.

My point is, there is NO fool proof system. Systems are designed by humans. Humans are not perfect and therefore neither will any system they create be perfect. The best we can do is find ways to get the most good out of a system while causing the least ammount of harm in the process.