revenge
Nov 5 2004, 10:53 AM
They did what Bush said now that they have been used up he will be geting rid of them. If they spoke up they are gone.
Its intresting Ashcroft and the Haliburton investigation now a new AG. Thats a way to beat the rap.
faith
Nov 5 2004, 11:46 AM
QUOTE(revenge @ Nov 5 2004, 05:53 AM)
They did what Bush said now that they have been used up he will be geting rid of them. If they spoke up they are gone.
Its intresting Ashcroft and the Haliburton investigation now a new AG. Thats a way to beat the rap.
what a surprise, if you don't fall in step right behind w, you're of no use to him. This man is sick.
Dogday
Nov 5 2004, 11:48 AM
Heard a rumour that Ashcroft could be appointed to SC..... Anyone else heard this, and lord help us all if this turns out to be true...........
nnrecrut
Nov 5 2004, 12:16 PM
QUOTE(revenge @ Nov 5 2004, 04:53 AM)
They did what Bush said now that they have been used up he will be geting rid of them. If they spoke up they are gone.
I may be wrong, but I think it is more like Ashcroft is leaving the admin by choice.
Ashcroft suffered pancreatitas (sp?)and the grueling job has taken a toll. I think Ashcroft wants to resign.
Gabrielle
Nov 5 2004, 12:36 PM
Will Rumsfeld be replaced?
jrcarlsen
Nov 5 2004, 01:20 PM
JUST RELEASED ON YAHOO 4 MINUTES AGO!!!!!!!!!!
Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes
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By JOHN McCARTHY, Associated Press Writer
COLUMBUS, Ohio - An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush (news - web sites) 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said.
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Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites)'s 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct. Bush's total should have been recorded as 365.
Bush won the state by more than 136,000 votes, according to unofficial results, and Kerry conceded the election on Wednesday after saying that 155,000 provisional ballots yet to be counted in Ohio would not change the result.
Deducting the erroneous Bush votes from his total could not change the election's outcome, and there were no signs of other errors in Ohio's electronic machines, said Carlo LoParo, spokesman for Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell.
Franklin is the only Ohio county to use Danaher Controls Inc.'s ELECTronic 1242, an older-style touchscreen voting system. Danaher did not immediately return a message for comment.
Sean Greene, research director with the nonpartisan Election Reform Information Project, said that while the glitch appeared minor "that could change if more of these stories start coming out."
In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost in this election because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did.
And in San Francisco, a malfunction with custom voting software could delay efforts to declare the winners of four races for county supervisor.
In the Ohio precinct in question, the votes are recorded to eight memory locations, including a removable cartridge, according to Verified Voting Foundation, an e-voting watchdog group. After voting ends, the cartridge is either transported to a tabulation facility or its data sent via modem.
Kimball Brace, president of the consulting firm Election Data Services, said it's possible the fault lies with the software that tallies the votes from individual cartridges rather than the machines or the cartridges themselves.
Either way, he said, such tallying software ought to have a way to ensure that the totals don't exceed the number of voters.
County officials did not return calls seeking details.
Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, told The Columbus Dispatch that on one of the three machines at that precinct, a malfunction occurred when its cartridge was plugged into a reader and generated a faulty number. He could not explain how the malfunction occurred.
Damschroder said people who had seen poll results on the election board's Web site called to point out the discrepancy. The error would have been discovered when the official count for the election is performed later this month, he said.
The reader also recorded zero votes in a county commissioner race on the machine.
Other electronic machines used in Ohio do not use the type of computer cartridge involved in the error, state officials say.
Meanwhile, in San Francisco, a glitch occurred with software designed for the city's new "ranked-choice voting," in which voters list their top three choices for municipal offices. If no candidate gets a majority of first-place votes outright, voters' second and third-place preferences are then distributed among candidates who weren't eliminated in the first round.
When the San Francisco Department of Elections tried a test run on Wednesday of the program that does the redistribution, some of the votes didn't get counted and skewed the results, director John Arntz said.
"All the information is there," Arntz said. "It's just not arriving the way it was supposed to."
A technician from the Omaha, Neb. company that designed the software, Election Systems & Software Inc., was working to diagnose and fix the problem.
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WAY TO GO GUYS!!!!!
now we need the media to look into other cases, as well as the optical scanner discrepancies in FL
EVDebs
Nov 5 2004, 02:00 PM
jr
Check out the pop density of OH at
http://130.166.124.2/atlas.us1/US0001.GIFmap site. Franklin county is in middle of state and not as densely populated...weird. Did they do their dirty work in counties that were mainly 'red' ? To avoid detection ?
cheri
Nov 5 2004, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(Gabrielle @ Nov 5 2004, 05:36 AM)
Will Rumsfeld be replaced?
I was wondering that as well.
InAWorldGoneMad
Nov 5 2004, 02:04 PM
If When Bush is impeached, can we include his whole cabinet?
MN Norske
Nov 5 2004, 02:05 PM
QUOTE
JUST RELEASED ON YAHOO 4 MINUTES AGO!!!!!!!!!!
Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes
9 minutes ago
By JOHN McCARTHY, Associated Press Writer
Thank you Jeeeee-suuus!(No insult intended to true Christains.)
Diebold Must Die
Nov 5 2004, 02:42 PM
QUOTE(cheri @ Nov 5 2004, 09:01 AM)
I was wondering that as well.
That would be too good to be true. If he survived Abu Ghraib and Al Qaaqa, I don't think Rumsfeld is going anywhere very soon. To my very great regret. It wasn't only that I wanted Bush gone. I was SOO looking forward to having a decent cabinet!
This morning, I opened my e-mail, and felt a terrible pang. For the first time in many, many weeks, there was NO email from the Kerry campaign, or MoveOn. How sad is that?
Hi all, I was shiral14 over at the johnkerry.com forum. I'm good and mad about those damned dingity machines, especially Diebold Gems. SAT tests are scored more reliably!
Melissa
revenge
Nov 5 2004, 02:49 PM
QUOTE(nnrecrut @ Nov 5 2004, 06:16 AM)
I may be wrong, but I think it is more like Ashcroft is leaving the admin by choice.
Ashcroft suffered pancreatitas (sp?)and the grueling job has taken a toll. I think Ashcroft wants to resign.
I believe thats part but not why at the time? If he is that sick step down now give a reason.
grammydidi
Nov 6 2004, 09:53 AM
QUOTE(revenge @ Nov 5 2004, 08:49 AM)
I believe thats part but not why at the time? If he is that sick step down now give a reason.
Maybe he wants to go to Europe and fund a stem-cell reseach lab. He could be their first lab rat.

(Geeeezzzzzz, I need another cup of coffee!!!)
4Kerry&Edwards
Nov 6 2004, 01:09 PM