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MN Norske
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Bush advisor claims climate change conspiracy
Monday 08 November 2004
An advisor to President George W Bush has reportedly claimed that global warming is a fallacy created to disrupt the American economy, in an interview on Radio 4. Myron Ebell, from the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), claimed that the notion of climate change through man-made emissions was “ridiculous and unrealistic”.

The views of the UK’s chief scientist Sir David King – who stated that global warming posed a bigger threat to the planet than terrorism – were dismissed by Ebell as ‘a ridiculous claim’, and Sir David an ‘alarmist’. The European Commission was also accused by Ebell of targeting the American economy through efforts to develop an international climate change strategy.

Environmentalists responded by calling the CEI spokesperson’s claims “idiocy”.
Beamer
This guy is a nut case!! I don't know what else to say. It's maddening that we are being governed by a bunch of jerks.
heritage
Climate change forum is now running on C-span2. Taped earlier today. See also on http:// www.c-span.org
Gabrielle
Myron Ebell

MN Norske
QUOTE(heritage @ Nov 8 2004, 09:12 PM)
Climate change forum is now running on C-span2. Taped earlier today. See also on http:// www.c-span.org
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Thanks for the heads up. Going there now.
vickifri
Bush is an enemy of the environment. It was one of my biggest complaints with Bush, and really says who and what he cares about. He is ruining our air, water, and earth in order to do the bidding of big money. Ask Bobby Kennedy. He has been fighting Bush for the last four years. Hopefully he will want to keep fighting for the next four.
heritage
This is on again -FYI
There is global warming!

QUOTE(heritage @ Nov 8 2004, 08:12 PM)
Climate change forum is now running on C-span2. Taped earlier today. See also on http:// www.c-span.org
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progressivephoenix
Sad reality -- it may take a major crisis to cause people to realize what is going on . The EPA was only finally established in 1970 after the Cuyahoga River in Ohio caught fire.
belgiangoth
The only people in the world who don't believe that global warming is a FACT live in america.
sagehen
I'd like to see the progressives and moderates start talking in terms of Conservation. For too long now the Republicans have been castigating those interested in the environment as "tree huggers" and "owl lovers." They've created the false option that a vote for ecological sanity is a vote against jobs. The Democratic and other progressive candidates need to be seen as the champions of Conservation, as opposed to the current administration's policy of Exploitation. As for the false choice: a vote for Bush administration policies is a vote against small businesses experimenting with new ecological technologies, and against every employee of businesses that produce everything from heat pumps to hybrid engines. This argument is about jobs. Do we want to promote jobs for the future, or the same old jobs in the same old energy business that's been doing the polluting since the turn of the last century?
MN Norske
QUOTE(sagehen @ Nov 10 2004, 01:45 PM)
I'd like to see the progressives and moderates start talking in terms of Conservation.  For too long now the Republicans have been castigating those interested in the environment as "tree huggers" and "owl lovers."  They've created the false option that a vote for ecological sanity is a vote against jobs.  The Democratic and other progressive candidates need to be seen as the champions of Conservation, as opposed to the current administration's policy of Exploitation.  As for the false choice: a vote for Bush administration policies is a vote against small businesses experimenting with new ecological technologies, and against every employee of businesses that produce everything from heat pumps to hybrid engines.  This argument is about jobs.  Do we want to promote jobs for the future, or the same old jobs in the same old energy business that's been doing the polluting since the turn of the last century?
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You're right.

I like the site where this article was originally posted. Do you have any other recommendations of good online conservation sites?
sagehen
Consider the source! Myron Ebell is speaking for the CEI, which is funded in part by Exxon/Mobil. The CEI is an excellent example of the relatively incestuous connections between right wing think tanks and funding sources. No surprise: The CEI receives major funding from the Koch Family Foundations, the Lynde & Harry Bradley Foundations, the Sarah Scaife Foundation (Richard Scaife) and the John M. Olin Foundation. Also of note is that CEI received support from Pete Coors' Castle Rock Foundation in 2002.
The Board of Directors of CEI also demonstrates the connections: William Dunn (Dunn Capital Management), Michael Greve (American Enterprise Institute), Leonard Liggio (Atlas Economic Research Foundation), Thomas Moore (Hoover Institute), Frances Smith (Consumer Alert), and CEI founder Fred L. Smith.

For more information on the CEI and other groups that are promoting the polluter's agenda see: Mediatransparency.ore, and Opensecrets.org
sagehen
Sites on which you may find useful information about conservation issues:

http://www.sierraclub.org/
http://www.sierraclub.org/globalwarming/
http://www.envirowatch.com/
http://nature.org/

And to keep an eye on the CEI, their webpage is located at :http://www.cei.org/sections/section1.cfm
Alexander38
QUOTE(sagehen @ Nov 10 2004, 07:45 PM)
I'd like to see the progressives and moderates start talking in terms of Conservation.  For too long now the Republicans have been castigating those interested in the environment as "tree huggers" and "owl lovers."  They've created the false option that a vote for ecological sanity is a vote against jobs.  The Democratic and other progressive candidates need to be seen as the champions of Conservation, as opposed to the current administration's policy of Exploitation.  As for the false choice: a vote for Bush administration policies is a vote against small businesses experimenting with new ecological technologies, and against every employee of businesses that produce everything from heat pumps to hybrid engines.  This argument is about jobs.  Do we want to promote jobs for the future, or the same old jobs in the same old energy business that's been doing the polluting since the turn of the last century?
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And i can only be glad on my own countrys behalf as we develop alternate energy sources and power reception/storage, and has earned (And is earning) hundres of millions of $ each year and have more than 8000 fulltime wellpaid jobs in that sector (we only have half the population of NJ).
And heres a fun fact, The US federal budget is more than 60 times as big as my own countrys federal budget, but we uses more in real money (Fusion exceptet) than the feds those in development, support, subzidezing by tax breaks to the common man, in support of alternative fuels!!
sagehen
European nations, like Denmark, in general have done a better job of financing alternative fuel sources, and the US could do more to create jobs using new fuel technologies that have fewer global warming consequences.

There is the false argument that to do something about global warming would cost jobs when a recent report by the Sierra Club indicates otherwise.

"A new report released by the Sierra Club, the United Steel Workers, UNITE/HERE, and SEIU shows that a clean energy policy would create 1.4 million new American jobs while saving consumers an average of $1,275 on their energy bills in 2025. " (see the Sierra Club website shown above.)
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