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noonanda
What To Do If You Happen Upon A Peace Rally

1. Approach the person talking about peace and saying there should be 'no
retaliation.'

2. Have brief conversation; ask if military force is appropriate.

3. When they say 'no,' ask 'Why not?'

4. When they say, 'Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which
would be awful, and we should not cause more violence' - punch him in the face
... hard.

5. When he gets up to punch you back, point out that it would be a mistake and
contrary to his values to punch you because he would be increasing the violence.

6. When he agrees that he has pledged not to commit violence, punch him in the
face again ... harder this time.

7. Repeat steps 4 through 6 until he understands that, sometimes, it is
necessary to punch back.

Funny but also true, there are times when violence is neccessary.
flydangler
Methinks you'd best be prepared for some heavy duty incoming, but at least there'll be some juices flowing here most ricky tick, eh?
DrWolfy
Really, what we do with all the money, guns, and soldiers if people stopped killing each other? Imagine the nerve of some people.
The_Bammo
QUOTE(flydangler @ Mar 10 2005, 10:01 AM)
Methinks you'd best be prepared for some heavy duty incoming, but at least there'll be some juices flowing here most ricky tick, eh?
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"Methinks" the mate has already started flowing some juice ! Aye, matey, Yo Ho Ho and a bottle of rum! "Methinks" that is the heavy duty incoming the mate refers to, Aye!! LOL Hang Tough -
Kjustme061
Its people like you who make it so that peace isn't an option. You're part of the problem.
The_Bammo
noonanda

What To Do If You Happen Upon A Peace Rally

1. Approach the person talking about peace and saying there should be 'no
retaliation.'

Times have changed from turn the other cheek peace-nik days, you have to be careful who the hel_ you approach nowadays Bro' - never know what you might encounter

2. Have brief conversation; ask if military force is appropriate.

Yeah that may go down or the person may tell you to fudge off -- or take a free-kin hike - Or put a Uncle Henry in your belly -- you never know!

3. When they say 'no,' ask 'Why not?'

Again the person protesting might just say, "None of your free-kin business, get the message punk then commence to kick some azz or get his kicked !

4. When they say, 'Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which
would be awful, and we should not cause more violence' - punch him in the face
... hard.

Some just might like a good brawl or kick azz fight, let me ask you this, ready for some jail time and maybe being made an azz out of by loosin' some teeth - you never know what will go down these days.

5. When he gets up to punch you back, point out that it would be a mistake and
contrary to his values to punch you because he would be increasing the violence.

This person might not listen to any free-kin reason and want to kick some azz--never know (LOL)

6. When he agrees that he has pledged not to commit violence, punch him in the
face again ... harder this time.

If this person agrees with you on this issue he deserves an azz kickin' --for sure.

7. Repeat steps 4 through 6 until he understands that, sometimes, it is
necessary to punch back. LOL

Now your talking plainly about a Man or Woman who is a devout christian type ---rare these days. Sounds like this is like being a cowardly bully -- pickin' on someone that will not stand up for what is theirs- Not the cool thing to do.

Funny but also true, there are times when violence is neccessary.

"Could not agree with that statement more - 100% on target -- Thats why you never know who you just might run into with such BS! LOL
Kjustme061
Good point Bammo. I'm a very peaceful person and do my best to spread that peace around. But, if this poster punched me in the face, we'd be rolling on the ground and he'd realize he should have just shut up and kept walking.
noonanda
Well like I stated, this was partially a joke, and partially true, it was a joke, but I would also expect someone to protect themselves, that is self defense. As to the member who got butthurt by it, I apologize but it was a joke.
TheRestofUs
I once saw this "joke" played out for real.

It was in the 60's in Greenwhich Village. A large guy was beating up on a smaller guy with short hair. He seemed to be a vet. He kept saying to the bully that he didn't want to fight, that he believed in peace.

The bully wouldn't stop, so the smaller guy finally took all he could and proceeded to hand the bullies ass to him.

After he had knocked the bully to the ground and in no condition to fight, the smaller guy apologized for having to hurt him and offered to help him to a hospital.

I'll never forget that event.
The_Bammo
QUOTE(noonanda @ Mar 10 2005, 11:13 PM)
Well like I stated, this was partially a joke, and partially true, it was a joke, but I would also expect someone to protect themselves, that is self defense. As to the member who got butthurt by it, I apologize but it was a joke.
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noonanda

I took your post as a joke, LOL - and thought it had some merit Bro'. No harm at all on what you posted Bro' - A lot of people out there think that their way or the highway, they do not respect anyones freedoms (that are left) except their own - at all Bro'.

Your post was a good example on what a lot of people that call themselves Americans think and try to practice. Had no problem with your post at all Bro' - noonanda - hang tough
Acebass
It's just your sense of humor I have a problem with.
Cyndi
QUOTE(noonanda @ Mar 10 2005, 08:47 AM)
What To Do If You Happen Upon A Peace Rally

1. Approach the person talking about peace and saying there should be 'no
retaliation.'

2. Have brief conversation; ask if military force is appropriate.

3. When they say 'no,' ask 'Why not?'

4. When they say, 'Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which
would be awful, and we should not cause more violence' - punch him in the face
... hard.

5. When he gets up to punch you back, point out that it would be a mistake and
contrary to his values to punch you because he would be increasing the violence.

6. When he agrees that he has pledged not to commit violence, punch him in the
face again ... harder this time.

7. Repeat steps 4 through 6 until he understands that, sometimes, it is
necessary to punch back.

Funny but also true, there are times when violence is neccessary.
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What if you are quick enough to dodge every punch till the other guy gets tired and just gives up trying to punch you?
random_dana
Kinda funny, but there are of course many people who object to the Iraq war who are not pacifists. Although I believe pacifism to be immoral, I think there are a wide variety of reasons one might conclude that any given war is a bad idea. I'm a republican and active duty military officer, and I thought that the Iraq war was contrary to our national interest, for example.
The_Bammo
QUOTE(random_dana @ Mar 13 2005, 06:33 PM)
Kinda funny, but there are of course many people who object to the Iraq war who are not pacifists.  Although I believe pacifism to be immoral, I think there are a wide variety of reasons one might conclude that any given war is a bad idea.  I'm a republican and active duty military officer, and I thought that the Iraq war was contrary to our national interest, for example.
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ramdon_dana



I got to admit, I thought noonanda's post was worth a laugh. LOL Trust me I am not a pacifist, been called a lot of things Bro' but never that. Against the "SHRUB'S" war - he_l yeah - 100%. Would I protest against this war? Already have and will continue.

Bro' one other thing - that post above of yours is straight, honest and could not explain your views any better. Respect that - for sure. Might not agree but respect your rights and your honesty. Hang tough-
Acebass
QUOTE(random_dana @ Mar 13 2005, 05:33 PM)
  Although I believe pacifism to be immoral,
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Interesting. What do you base this on?
The_Bammo
QUOTE(Cyndi @ Mar 11 2005, 04:05 PM)
What if you are quick enough to dodge every punch till the other guy gets tired and just gives up trying to punch you?
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Cyndi

If one can do whats in your post, one belongs on the "Contender" with Sly and Sugar Ray.

I think someone had a name for what you described above - Muhammid Ali - "Rope a Dope"! LOL Hang Tough-
The_Bammo
QUOTE(Acebass @ Mar 14 2005, 03:15 PM)
Interesting. What do you base this on?
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Ace

random_dana, think you owe the Ace an answer. LOL

Now that there should be interesting as well.

Ace, like that Avator - sharp as a razor Bro' ! Hang Tough -
vfguenley
random, come back here and explain how pacifism is immoral.
heart
My Response: Go get a truckload of chickens and another truck of chicken feathers and bring them back to roost....right on those people!
heart
Pacifism is immoral because the pacifist refuses to defend people's liberty, and because of this the tyrants of the world who do not subscribe to pacifism will be able to oppress more and more people. That's immoral. There are "sins" of omission and "sins" of comission. Allowing someone to subjegate, ethnically cleanse, terrorize or commit genocide against a population is a "sin" of omission and for each time you stood idly by and did nothing and the Zarkawis' of the world behead one or twelve more people, you are to blame...especially when they use your own words, your own protesting to justify their cause of terror. When Saddam started his genocide against the Kurds, he specifically said in the 4 tons of documents obtained, that the world didn't do anything when he started doing it in 1983, so they were not going to do anything about the chemical gassing either. He was right and a couple of hundred thousand people died because no one acted.
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