Where in the world is Geronimo's skull?


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The Skull and Bones Society allegedly robbed grave


MOUNT GRAHAM, Ariz. - The Skull and Bones Society admitted to Apache leaders 17 years ago that they had a skull they call "Geronimo’s" in their secret cult museum in New Haven, Conn. Still, his remains have not been returned.

Raleigh Thompson, former San Carlos Apache tribal councilman for 16 years, said it is time to bring Geronimo home to be buried in the mountains that he loved.

"Geronimo left his rifle and peace pipe here when they took him away," Thompson said.

"When Geronimo was taken from this land, he wanted to come back and be buried on San Carlos in the Triplet Mountains."

During an interview at the Mount Graham Sacred Run, Thompson said he was present in New York when the Skull and Bones Society admitted that it held Geronimo’s remains in 1986.

"They dug up Geronimo’s body in 1918. His body is at the Skull and Bones Museum. Grandfather Prescott Bush dug it up," Thompson said.

The grave robbing was exposed when Apache leaders received a photo and information in the 1980s. The informant, fearing for his life and never identified, provided Apache leaders with a photo of the cult museum’s display of Geronimo’s remains in a glass cage. The informant also provided a copy of a Skull and Bones Society log book, in which the 1918 grave robbery was recorded.

According to the Skull and Bones log book entry, Prescott Bush, grandfather of George W. Bush, and five other officers at Fort Sill, Okla., desecrated Geronimo’s grave.

After receiving the information, San Carlos Chairman Ned Anderson, Thompson and tribal attorney Joe Sparks were in an Apache tribal delegation which met with the Society. During a series of meetings, they met with Skull and Bones officials and Jonathan Bush, George Bush’s brother, in New York City in 1986.

However, Thompson said the skull that the Skull and Bones Society offered to return to the Apache delegation was that of a young boy, not Geronimo, and the Apache leaders refused it.

"They admitted that they called this skull Geronimo. They gave us the skull, but the skull was so small that it looked like a young boy’s skull." Thompson said.

"Based on that, we didn’t want to take the skull. I think they switched the skull on us."

Thompson said the Skull and Bones Society has other items of Geronimo’s, including one of Geronimo’s elbow bones and his horse’s bridle bit and straps. They have been on display in a museum cage in the secret society’s "tomb," as shown in the photograph the Apache leaders received.

In the 1980s, Anderson pressed Arizona congressmen, including Republican Senator John McCain, for assistance in retrieving Geronimo’s remains. However, Skull and Bones did not return the remains.

Anderson gave congressmen a copy of the Skull and Bones Society’s internal history, "Continuation of the History of Our Order for the Century Celebration," written June 17, 1933, by The Little Devil of D’121."

This log book states that the attack on Geronimo’s grave was in May 1918, at Fort Sill. One of the grave robbers advised the others to proceed with caution. He is quoted as saying, "Six army captains robbing a grave wouldn’t look good in the papers."

Skull and Bones members are referred to as "patriarchs" in the early log book. The reference to Prescott Bush is written as "Patriarch Bush."

The log book states, "The ring of pick on stone and thud of earth on earth alone disturbs the peace of the prairie. An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb, and Pat[riarch] Bush entered and started to dig. We dug in turn, each on relief taking a turn on the road …"

"We quickly closed the grave, shut the door and sped home to Pat[riarch] Mallon’s room, where we cleaned the Bones. Pat[riarch] Mallon sat on the floor liberally applying carbolic acid. The Skull was fairly clean, having only some flesh inside and a little hair. I showered and hit the hay ... a happy man ..."

Although Jonathan Bush and Society members admitted they have a skull they call Geronimo’s during the 1986 meetings in New York, the Society’s attorney denies it.

Attorney Endicott P. Davison, attorney for the Skull and Bones Society, denies that the society had Geronimo’s skull. He claimed the log book describing the grave robbing was a hoax.

Meanwhile, since learning of the robbing of Geronimo’s grave, Anderson and Thompson have struggled with frustration to bring Geronimo’s remains home.

Speaking to Mount Graham runners, Thompson compared the telescopes that scar Mount Graham to the desecration of Geronimo’s grave.

The Bush family’s involvement in the Skull and Bones Society and the Trilateral Commission, a joint commission of world leaders accused of seeking world domination, is no secret.

George W. Bush, in his 1999 campaign autobiography, "A Charge to Keep," speaks of his membership in Skull and Bones. "My senior year I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret I can’t say anything more."

Now, there is also a new book exposing the secrets of the Skull and Bones Society. Alexandria Robbins, formerly of the staff of the New Yorker, is author of "Secrets of the Tomb." Robbins, a Yale graduate and award-winning journalist, interviewed more than 100 Bonesmen for the book and includes information on Geronimo.

Based on her research, Robbins believes the grave robbing incident took place, the log entry is authentic and the skull belongs to Geronimo.

"Almost 90 years later, that skull still sits in the Tomb. It sits in a glass case and the members still call it Geronimo," Robbins said in an interview with the women’s Guerilla News Network.

The Skull and Bones Society was founded by Yale student William H. Russell in the early 1800s. Russell, from a wealthy family, was influenced during his travels to a German secret society.

The Society, founded with Alphonso Taft, the future Secretary of War and father of future President William Howard Taft, is considered the most powerful secret society the United States has ever known.

New members are selected from the junior class at Yale University and then initiated in the "tomb," a dark windowless crypt in New Haven, Conn.

They are given new names, "Knight X" of the Order, and introduced to the artifacts.

These tomb items include Hitler’s silverware and dozens of skulls, including those of Geronimo and Pancho Villa. There are coffins, skeletons and innards.

Skull and Bones members are threatened with blackmail in order to ensure loyalty. They must tithe the Society and are guaranteed financial security for life. Bonesmen are offered jobs at investment banks and law firms owned by fellow Bonesmen, and granted access to the Society’s island on the St. Lawrence River. Robbins said Bonesmen have been senators, Supreme Court justices and dominate the financial world.

At Yale, the Skull and Bones corporate shell, the Russell Trust Association, owns much of the university’s real estate and a large portion of the land in Connecticut.

While the Skull and Bones Society is now exposed, no action has been taken for the return of the remains of Geronimo.

"The white man destroys the oceans, kills the water and fishes with oil and he contaminates the soil with uranium," Thompson told runners at Mount Graham.

"Indians see the hearts of the tree, beauty of the mountain. It is a living mountain," Thompson said.

"Now, the white man has come and cut the trees on this holy mountain. It is the same way as when they dug up Geronimo’s grave and put it in their museum."


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William Huntington Russell (1809-85): Graduated Yale 1833. Founder of Skull and Bones Society (or Russell Trust Association), which came to dominate Yale. Founded prep school for boys, 1836. His secret organization spread in the 1870s to Phillips Academy (AUV and the secret societies), the Andover, Massachusetts prep school.


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from a Skull and Bones Society internal history, entitled Continuation of the History of Our Order for the Century Celebration, 17 June 1933, by The Little Devil of D'121.

From the war days [W.W. I] also sprang the mad expedition from the School of Fire at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, that brought to the T[omb] its most spectacular ``crook,'' the skull of Geronimo the terrible, the Indian Chief who had taken forty-nine white scalps. An expedition in late May, 1918, by members of four Clubs [i.e. four graduating-class years of the Society], Xit D.114, Barebones, Caliban and Dingbat, D.115, S'Mike D.116, and Hellbender D.117, planned with great caution since in the words of one of them: ``Six army captains robbing a grave wouldn't look good in the papers.'' The stirring climax was recorded by Hellbender in the Black Book of D.117: ``... The ring of pick on stone and thud of earth on earth alone disturbs the peace of the prairie. An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb, and Pat[riarch] Bush entered and started to dig. We dug in turn, each on relief taking a turn on the road as guards.... Finally Pat[riarch] Ellery James turned up a bridle, soon a saddle horn and rotten leathers followed, then wood and then, at the exact bottom of the small round hole, Pat[riarch] James dug deep and pried out the trophy itself.... We quickly closed the grave, shut the door and sped home to Pat[riarch] Mallon's room, where we cleaned the Bones. Pat[riarch] Mallon sat on the floor liberally applying carbolic acid. The Skull was fairly clean, having only some flesh inside and a little hair. I showered and hit the hay ... a happy man....''



George Bush's crowning as a Bonesman was intensely, personally important to him. These men were tapped for the Class of 1948:

Thomas William Ludlow Ashley

Lucius Horatio Biglow, Jr.

George Herbert Walker Bush

John Erwin Caulkins

William Judkins Clark

William James Connelly, Jr.

George Cook III

David Charles Grimes

Richard Elwood Jenkins

Richard Gerstle Mack

Thomas Wilder Moseley

George Harold Pfau, Jr.

Samuel Sloane Walker, Jr.

Howard Sayre Weaver

Valleau Wilkie, Jr.


Bush's Own Bones
Among the traditional artifacts collected and maintained within the High Street Tomb are human remains of various derivations. The following concerns one such set of Skull and Bones.

Geronimo, an Apache faction leader and warrior, led a party of warriors on a raid in 1876, after Apaches were moved to the San Carlos Reservation in Arizona territory. He led other raids against U.S. and Mexican forces well into the 1880s; he was captured and escaped many times.

Geronimo was finally interned at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. He became a farmer and joined a Christian congregation. He died at the age of 79 years in 1909, and was buried at Fort Sill. Three-quarters of a century later, his tribesmen raised the question of getting their famous warrior reinterred back in Arizona.

Ned Anderson was Tribal Chairman of the San Carlos Apache Tribe from 1978 to 1986. This is the story he tells@s8:

Around the fall of 1983, the leader of an Apache group in another section of Arizona said he was interested in having the remains of Geronimo returned to his tribe's custody. Taking up this idea, Anderson said that the remains properly belonged to his group as much as to the other Apaches. After much discussion, several Apache groups met at a kind of summit meeting held at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. The army authorities were not favorable to the meeting, and it only occurred through the intervention of the office of the Governor of Oklahoma.

As a result of this meeting, Ned Anderson was written up in the newspapers as an articulate Apache activist. Soon afterwards, in late 1983 or early 1984, a Skull and Bones member contacted Anderson and leaked evidence that Geronimo's remains had long ago been pilfered--by Prescott Bush, George's father. The informant said that in May of 1918, Prescott Bush and five other officers at Fort Sill desecrated the grave of Geronimo. They took turns watching while they robbed the grave, taking items including a skull, some other bones, a horse bit and straps. These prizes were taken back to the Tomb, the home of the Skull and Bones Society at Yale in New Haven, Connecticut. They were put into a display case, which members and visitors could easily view upon entry to the building.

The informant provided Anderson with photographs of the stolen remains, and a copy of a Skull and Bones log book in which the 1918 grave robbery had been recorded. The informant said that Skull and Bones members used the pilfered remains in performing some of their Thursday and Sunday night rituals, with Geronimo's skull sitting out on a table in front of them.
Outraged, Anderson traveled to New Haven. He did some investigation on the Yale campus and held numerous discussions, to learn what the Apaches would be up against when they took action, and what type of action would be most fruitful.

Through an attorney, Ned Anderson asked the FBI to move into the case. The attorney conveyed to him the Bureau's response: If he would turn over every scrap of evidence to the FBI, and completely remove himself from the case, they would get involved. He rejected this bargain, since it did not seem likely to lead toward recovery of Geronimo's remains.

Due to his persistence, he was able to arrange a September 1986 Manhattan meeting with Jonathan Bush, George Bush's brother. Jonathan Bush vaguely assured Anderson that he would get what he had come after, and set a followup meeting for the next day. But Bush stalled--Anderson believes this was to gain time to hide and secure the stolen remains against any possible rescue action.

The Skull and Bones attorney representing the Bush family and managing the case was Endicott Peabody Davison. His father was the F. Trubee Davison mentioned above, who had been president of New York's American Museum of Natural History, and personnel director for the Central Intelligence Agency. The general attitude of this Museum crowd has long been that ``Natives'' should be stuffed and mounted for display to the Fashionable Set.

Finally, after about 11 days, another meeting occurred. A display case was produced, which did in fact match the one in the photograph the informant had given to Ned Anderson. But the skull he was shown was that of a ten-year-old child, and Anderson refused to receive it or to sign a legal document promising to shut up about the matter.

Anderson took his complaint to Arizona Congressmen Morris Udahl and John McCain III, but with no results. George Bush refused Congressman McCain's request that he meet with Anderson.

Anderson wrote to Udahl, enclosing a photograph of the wall case and skull at the ``Tomb,'' showing a black and white photograph of the living Geronimo, which members of the Order had boastfully posted next to their display of his skull. Anderson quoted from a Skull and Bones Society internal history, entitled Continuation of the History of Our Order for the Century Celebration, 17 June 1933, by The Little Devil of D'121.

From the war days [W.W. I] also sprang the mad expedition from the School of Fire at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, that brought to the T[omb] its most spectacular ``crook,'' the skull of Geronimo the terrible, the Indian Chief who had taken forty-nine white scalps. An expedition in late May, 1918, by members of four Clubs [i.e. four graduating-class years of the Society], Xit D.114, Barebones, Caliban and Dingbat, D.115, S'Mike D.116, and Hellbender D.117, planned with great caution since in the words of one of them: ``Six army captains robbing a grave wouldn't look good in the papers.'' The stirring climax was recorded by Hellbender in the Black Book of D.117: ``... The ring of pick on stone and thud of earth on earth alone disturbs the peace of the prairie. An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb, and Pat[riarch] Bush entered and started to dig. We dug in turn, each on relief taking a turn on the road as guards.... Finally Pat[riarch] Ellery James turned up a bridle, soon a saddle horn and rotten leathers followed, then wood and then, at the exact bottom of the small round hole, Pat[riarch] James dug deep and pried out the trophy itself.... We quickly closed the grave, shut the door and sped home to Pat[riarch] Mallon's room, where we cleaned the Bones. Pat[riarch] Mallon sat on the floor liberally applying carbolic acid. The Skull was fairly clean, having only some flesh inside and a little hair. I showered and hit the hay ... a happy man....''@s9
The other grave robber whose name is given, Ellery James, we encountered in Chapter 1--he was to be an usher at Prescott's wedding three years later. And the fellow who applied acid to the stolen skull, burning off the flesh and hair, was Neil Mallon. Years later, Prescott Bush and his partners chose Mallon as chairman of Dresser Industries; Mallon hired Prescott's son, George Bush, for George's first job; and George Bush named his son, Neil Mallon Bush, after the flesh-picker.
In 1988, the Washington Post ran an article, originating from the Establishment-line Arizona Republic, entitled ``Skull for Scandal: Did Bush's Father Rob Geronimo's Grave?'' The article included a small quote from the 1933 Skull and Bones History of Our Order: ``An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb, and ... Bush entered and started to dig....'' and so forth, but neglected to include other names beside Bush.
According to the Washington Post, the document which Bush attorney Endicott Davison tried to get the Apache leader to sign, stipulated that Ned Anderson agreed it would be ``inappropriate for you, me [Jonathan Bush] or anyone in association with us to make or permit any publication in connection with this transaction.'' Anderson called the document ``very insulting to Indians.'' Davison claimed later that the Order's own history book is a hoax, but during the negotiations with Anderson, Bush's attorney demanded Anderson give up his copy of the book.@s1@s0

Bush crony Fitzhugh Green gives the view of the President's backers on this affair, and conveys the arrogant racial attitude typical of Skull and Bones:

``Prescott Bush had a colorful side. In 1988 the press revealed the complaint of an Apache leader about Bush. This was Ned Anderson of San Carlos, Oklahoma [sic], who charged that as a young army officer Bush stole the skull of Indian Chief [sic] Geronimo and had it hung on the wall of Yale's Skull and Bones Club. After exposure of `true facts' by Anderson, and consideration by some representatives in Congress, the issue faded from public sight. Whether or not this alleged skullduggery actually occurred, the mere idea casts the senior Bush in an adventurous light''@s1@s1[emphasis added].
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link to article:
http://www.pa56.org/skullandbones.htm

[quote=shawneedaughter,Nov 15 2004, 02:39 PM]
Where in the world is Geronimo's skull?
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Great! Interesting they say a Bush helped steal it. I wonder if they could do DNA evidence on the skull to prove it? First they admit it, then later deny it....
I don't find it amusing either way.

I find it hard to believe they have anything from his grave, it gets many visitors and has since he was buried, someone would have noticed the fresh dirt. It's far more likely that they have some bones they're stupid enough to believe are his,

"They dug up Geronimo’s body in 1918. His body is at the Skull and Bones Museum. Grandfather Prescott Bush dug it up," Thompson said.

tomhye, this happened in 1918!

Far less likely to be true happening in 1918 than later, still many visits back then from people with reason to pay attention. If the grave was disrupted would his tribe have kept quiet? His friends? The press?(he was still a very major figure to the country then)

tomhye

I have been away at a 2 day conference on Indian Health Services issues and services. Yet, I have thought about your words on this post. I would respectfully submit that if these men quoted here are concerned about this and putting action behind their words that is 'enough'.

'Ned Anderson was Tribal Chairman of the San Carlos Apache Tribe from 1978 to 1986. After receiving the information, San Carlos Chairman Ned Anderson, Thompson and tribal attorney Joe Sparks were in an Apache tribal delegation which met with the Society.'

'Anderson took his complaint to Arizona Congressmen Morris Udahl and John McCain III, but with no results. George Bush refused Congressman McCain's request that he meet with Anderson.'

This is an interesting thought. Who is to say they had a choice in the matter? I can say from my own experience that there are ways to silence people, there are ways to deafen the ears, to still the heart. Even as I write this, I am conscious of the background music. It is rather a different emotional mood than the one I am trying to get across. But I think it is well known that these kinds of things occurred in the Native American traditions. It is really not anything new, and I am surprised that you find it so difficult to accept. This kind of thing has happened also to the Tibetan people. And it is happening within our own American society as well, albeit on a different scale. Since we don't have tribal societies in America, maybe it just happens to individuals who hold a particular power or lineage, then those people are isolated and used for political, financial and social gain. I would like for the people in power to understand what is happening so that they can correct it. But as long as we are submitting to the negative influences and false directions that we receive, we can't protect our world. And it is a world so incredibly worthy of protection. I think it is worth a lot of thought, a kind of prioritizing of issues. I am going to rely on John Kerry to lead us out of this mess.

Desert Flower

[quote=Mesmerize,Nov 15 2004, 05:12 PM]
[quote=shawneedaughter,Nov 15 2004, 02:39 PM]
Where in the world is Geronimo's skull?
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Great! Interesting they say a Bush helped steal it. I wonder if they could do DNA evidence on the skull to prove it? First they admit it, then later deny it....
I don't find it amusing either way.

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You know, they could never pin all the mob activity, murders, etc. on Al Capone. They sent him away for tax evasion. Now if we could just figure a way to hang Prescott's shenanigans around the George's necks! Look at how they hounded Clinton over Whitewater - can't Soros hire some lawyers to start filing injunctions, seeking court orders, and stuff just to make them squirm? Make them take their eye off the ball, then nail them for something current. Or at the very least, make the smug bastard uncomfortable


I WANT JUSTICE!

Every time I read that S&B story I find it so distasteful! Robbing the dead, can they sink any lower ?

I just happened on this story yesterday, and got a little upset:
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http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/for...showtopic=10199
I'm not usually so aggressive, but this is disgusting.

I too think Geronimo [ http://www.indians.org/welker/geronimo.htm ] should get to go home, and all the other Chiricahua Apache that have been in prison Fort Sill Oklahoma now for 118 years. I personally think they should be allowed to join Cochise in the mountains of their namesake.


[ http://data2.itc.nps.gov/parks/chir/ppMaps/CHIRmap2%2Epdf ]

I had a question to the Native Americans here:

I made this post on my blog about the similarities I see with the "messianic" thendencies of those "Left Behind" book series with other "messianic" movements like the Ghost Dance. I tried to identify what drives a culture to get atracted to this kind of idea.

The last thing I wanted to do is to be offensive to my Native (North) American brothers, since I have South American Native blood myself.

Would you mind reading it and giving me feedback ? Please don't be offended if I misinterpreted it!

I've seen the train with my relatives in a dream, it was scary because I knew I had just died, also the relatives on the train had been dead for some time. They looked alive and I felt good to see them, but it scared me to think about it when I woke up. Even in the bible it says all good souls will be spared revelations.




Not all people feel sad about those who have passed away, it nice to see them. Maybe this is a way to see them, at least for those that know of its secret.



It seems to me this person had the "universal" part right, but domination isn't really felt by tribal bands so much????

Thanks for the insight!

The domination was domination by an "alien" culture: