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piccadilly
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 11 2005, 09:01 AM)
I thought I'd give you a brief update on 1st Sgt Brad Kasal.
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He is such an inspiring individual.

There's obviously nothing I can add to this. Semper Fi.
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And which accomplishments of 1st Sgt Brad Kasal inspire you so much, Marine ?
Desron
QUOTE(big sky brad @ Jun 9 2005, 11:57 PM)
The Marines have missed their recruiting goal for 5 straight months.

What do you think the reason for that could possibly be?
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The Marines missed their goal in the first four months but met it in May.

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The Marine Corps slightly exceeded its goal, getting 61 more recruits than the 1,843 it had set as May's goal.


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8172384/
Marine
QUOTE(picadilly @ Jun 11 2005, 07:29 PM)
And which accomplishments of 1st Sgt Brad Kasal inspire you so much, Marine ?
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Every one of the stories of the Marines I've posted on this board I find inspiring duck. This thread is about real Marines sounding off, I have a few more Marines wanting to voice their opinions so excuse me.
big sky brad
QUOTE(Desron @ Jun 11 2005, 08:27 PM)
The Marines missed their goal in the first four months but met it in May.

Absolutely not true!

The Marines met their reduced goal for the month of May.

The Army and the Army National Guard didn't even do that!
Desron
QUOTE(big sky brad @ Jun 12 2005, 01:50 PM)
Absolutely not true!

The Marines met their reduced goal for the month of May.

The Army and the Army National Guard didn't even do that!
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I've read many articles on this and not one said the Marines reduced their recruitment goals. Do you have a link to a site that would support your statement?

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Unlike the Army, the Marine Corps, with a smaller share of the Iraq ground troops, exceeded its May recruiting goal and was 2 percent ahead of its year-to-date target toward an annual goal of 39,150 recruits. The Navy and Air Force also were on target.


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N10648244.htm
Desron
I know that I've said on many occasions that I had served in the Navy. If you had been following this particular issue closely, why did you then make this false statement?

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The Marines have missed their recruiting goal for 5 straight months.

What do you think the reason for that could possibly be?


When I qouted sites that said the Marines met their goal in May, you changed your statement to this:

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Absolutely not true!

The Marines met their reduced goal for the month of May.

The Army and the Army National Guard didn't even do that!


When I asked you for a link to a site that would verify your claim that the Marines reduced their goal in May, you say you can't come up with one. So how did you get your info?
big sky brad
I saw it on teevee. It's not a false statement.
Marine
QUOTE(big sky brad @ Jun 13 2005, 09:49 AM)
I saw it on teevee. It's not a false statement.
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Well brad I saw on teevee the Marines exceeded their goal by 2%.

You want to read about some more real Marines sounding off about Iraq? I got a bunch more to post when you've caught up reading the fifty or sixty I already posted.
Desron
QUOTE(big sky brad @ Jun 13 2005, 11:49 AM)
I saw it on teevee. It's not a false statement.
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Is it your arguement that what you heard or may have heard on TV is without question factual?
big sky brad
Desron, it was on teevee last week. What you choose to believe is up to you.
Sandra
I've edited the topic title from

Real Marines Sound Off About The Iraq War to

Marines Sound Off About The Iraq War.

The reason for doing this is simple...in keeping with the rules of the U.S. Military Issues forum, we intend to end this ongoing debate about who is and who is not a "Real" Marine. There is no way to know, nor is it any of our business to have the proof of anyone's service to our country. This forum is open to all -- Military and non-Military -- to discuss military issues which affect ALL Americans. As stated above, disparaging comments about others' service to our country and personal attacks are not welcomed, nor will they be tolerated.

Thank you,
The Administrators
big sky brad
This thread was started by a Marine about Marines!

You couldn't have picked a better example of a real Marine to diss on your forum!
Acebass
QUOTE(big sky brad @ Jun 13 2005, 11:11 PM)
This thread was started by a Marine about Marines!

You couldn't have picked a better example of a real Marine to diss on your forum!
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Sorry Brad I don't think you'll win this one. Just let it ride, you know who you are and thats what matters.
big sky brad
Yeah, I know, you say it's not your forum all the time.


But, as an administrator of this forum you are just as responsible for the content of this forum as the owner.
big sky brad
QUOTE(Acebass @ Jun 13 2005, 10:28 PM)
Sorry Brad I don't think you'll win this one. Just let it ride, you know who you are and thats what matters.
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I was willing to let it ride, Ace.

But, when someone comes out here and publicly trashes me I think you should be aware that sh*t is not going to sit well with me.
Marine

Lance Cpl. Peter W. Duffy is reposnsible for preparing almost 1,000 Marines for the possibility of a chemical attack. The North Hampton, Mass. native trains the Marines of 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment for defense against nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Conducting training exercises like this one is just one part of his job against the war on chemical weapons. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Shawn C. Rhodes

U.S. Marine Corps
Cpl. Peter W. Duffy

High School Chemist Now Helps Marines
Survive Chemical Attacks


By Cpl. Shawn C. Rhodes / Combat Correspondent
CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C., Feb. 8, 2005 – Playing with chemicals has always been a passion of Lance Cpl. Peter W. Duffy. He never could have imagined that his love for chemistry in high school would bring him to Iraq, where he would use his interest in science to protect more than 1,000 Marines from chemical weapons.
“A lot of countries have chemical weapons and the means to use them,” said Duffy. “It’s my job to make sure the Marines here understand and are prepared for that.”

The soft-spoken 20-year-old from North Hampton, Mass. added, “There isn’t a lot of time for infantrymen to think about chemical threats when they’re out there fighting, so I make sure they’re prepared before they leave for the fight.”

While deployed to Iraq last summer, Duffy’s actions earned him a Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal with a combat distinguishing device.

Preparing the Marines of 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment is a full-time job. Duffy, with the help of another lance corporal and a chief warrant officer, is responsible for educating and training 1,000 Marines.

“There’s a lot to know about chemical weapons and things are always changing in that field. I have to keep on top of it so my Marines can too,” he said.

The most hands-on many Marines get with chemical weapons is an annual trip to the gas chamber, where they are exposed to orto-chlorobenzylidene-malononitrile (tear gas).

This chemical causes severe burning sensations on the skin, eyes and throat. It is necessary for the Marines’ safety despite its physical discomfort.

“It’s a confidence exercise. We do this so the Marines know what it’s like to be exposed to a chemical agent,” Duffy said.

Once inside the chamber, only Duffy’s 5-foot-11-inch frame can be seen through the fog of gas. His hazel eyes stare out from the lenses of his gas mask as he runs Marines through the drills in the chamber numerous times a year.

“Duffy is good at reading a crowd, so he can figure out the best way to grab their attention,” said Lance Cpl. Austin B. Glover, a nuclear, biological and chemical specialist with the unit. The native of Los Gatos, Calif. added, “That comes in handy when the platoon you’re talking with just finished a five-mile hike and all they want to do is sleep.”

It’s important that Marines pay attention inside the chamber. Panic can take hold of a Marine in an instant, which is why Duffy and the unit’s corpsmen are always ready to offer assistance.

“Duffy definitely knows what he’s doing. He’s very forthcoming with his knowledge because he realizes the threats against his Marines,” Glover said. “He’s good at his job because he loves the subject.”

Duffy plans on taking his experience in the NBC field to a profitable job someday.

“I plan on majoring in engineering and I can take that degree and work for Homeland Security as a consultant,” Duffy said. “But until then, my job is here, preparing Marines for what they could face.”
big sky brad
I have to go to Specialist Carrie French's funeral tomorrow, Sandra.

I'm not going to debate the fact that she was killed in the Iraq War with anyone here.

I have to go to Lance Cpl. Dustin V. Birch's funeral next week after his body is returned to the States.

I won't debate the fact that he was killed in the Iraq War with anyone here, either.
Desron
QUOTE(big sky brad @ Jun 14 2005, 12:06 PM)
I have to go to Specialist Carrie French's funeral tomorrow, Sandra.

I'm not going to debate the fact that she was killed in the Iraq War with anyone here.

I have to go to Lance Cpl. Dustin V. Birch's funeral next week after his body is returned to the States.

I won't debate the fact that he was killed in the Iraq War with anyone here, either.
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A couple of comments about Specialist Carrie French and Lance Cpl. Birch:

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French's family has declined to speak with the media, but have released a statement saying, "Carrie was a fun-loving young woman with a warm heart and a desire to serve. She was loved by everyone who knew her and she will be dearly missed."


http://www.pigstye.net/iraq/article.php/FrenchCarrieL

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"He was very happy to serve his country," Oveson said. "He was just glad to be part of it."


http://www.idahostatesman.com/apps/pbcs.dl...EWS01/506110332
real_democrat
Hmmm, its not all Flowers and love in Iraq for us?
'Good and honest' Iraqis fighting US forces
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A senior US military chief has admitted "good, honest" Iraqis are fighting American forces.

Major General Joseph Taluto said he could understand why some ordinary people would take up arms against the US military because "they're offended by our presence".

In an interview with Gulf News, he said: "If a good, honest person feels having all these Humvees driving on the road, having us moving people out of the way, having us patrol the streets, having car bombs going off, you can understand how they could [want to fight us]."

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He said: "There is a sense of a good resistance, or an accepted resistance. They say 'okay, if you shoot a coalition soldier, that's okay, it's not a bad thing but you shouldn't kill other Iraqis.'"
Marine

Marine Cpl. Justin Morris, with the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force Headquarters Group, waits for the next group of servicemembers to check in at the military's registration desk at the Ambassador City Jomtien hotel in Pattaya, Thailand. Morris has deployed to Thailand to participate in support of the military's efforts in the disaster relief operation. Photo by Samantha L. Quigley

U.S. Marine Corps
Cpl. Justin Morris
Movie Influences Marine's Decision to Enlist

By Samantha L. Quigley / American Forces Press Service
UTAPAO, Thailand, Jan. 21, 2005 — "I made the decision to come in (to the Marines) in 10th grade," said Cpl. Justin Morris of the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force Headquarters Group. "But they wouldn't take me until I was a senior."

The influence that drove Morris to join the Corps is a bit unusual.

"I saw 'Born on the Fourth of July,'" Morris said. The movie flipped a switch. "It was something in Tom Berenger's speech at the beginning of the movie." The 1989 film was about a paralyzed Vietnam War veteran who became an anti-war activist.

Currently stationed at Okinawa, Morris, originally from the Pittsburgh area, is on orders to Thailand to assist in the tsunami relief effort. Oddly enough, Thailand is part of the Marine's favorite memory of his service. He was sent here in 2003.

"I'd never been out of the country," Morris said. "(The military) sent me to Okinawa and then Thailand. It blew my mind."

But his favorite part of his job as an administrative clerk is "the Marines I work with," he said, noting it's "just the atmosphere that's provided being there."

While Morris has decided not to make the Marine Corps a career -- he's due to separate in July -- he said it's given him great opportunities to develop his interests.

"You spend a lot of time by yourself," he said. And he's used that time to write. He is planning on attending Bowling Green State University in Ohio beginning in August. Morris said he chose that school in particular because it has a good creative writing program.
Marine
Many of the stories are provided with an e-mail address of the Marine or the writer of the story, feel welcome to write them and express your displeasure.

Be sure to explain very carefully that it is much more important to hate George Bush than it is to show support the United States so they will understand your motives. Otherwise they might just think you to just be an anti-American shrill.
heart
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 15 2005, 08:45 PM)
Be sure to explain very carefully that it is much more important to hate George Bush than it is to show support the United States so they will understand your motives.  Otherwise they might just think you to just be an anti-American shrill.
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clap.gif clap.gif Not much I can add to that! clap.gif clap.gif
piccadilly
Let's see...

Memorial Day remembered in Iraq
Submitted by: 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story Identification #: 2005530141030
Story by Cpl. C. Alex Herron
herronca@acemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil*

First sergeant remembered on Memorial Day in Iraq
Submitted by: 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story by: Computed Name: Cpl. C. Alex Herron
Story Identification #: 200553171820

Cobras strike in support of border fight
Submitted by: 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story Identification #: 2005530142150
Story by Cpl. Rocco DeFilippis
defilippisrc@acemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil

Somerton native sets standard for Marines in Iraq
Submitted by: 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story Identification #: 2005630234
Story by Cpl. Rocco DeFilippis

Houston native drives, strives for success
Submitted by: 2nd Force Service Support Group
Story by: Computed Name: Cpl. C. J. Yard
Story Identification #: 200567134149
For more information about the Marines or news reported in this story, contact by e-mail cssemnfpao@cssemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil.


"Many" is actually 5 found in the flood of second hand account stories, written by PA reporters. I don't blame the PA reporters, what they were ordered to report about has as much factual value as if I were to tell you about my cats.

If any Marines in Iraq have any personal stories to report about, they can sign up on CGCS. I have several sponsored accounts already paid for, open and waiting.

Second, I've been wanting to ask you Marine, wouldn't your time be better spent if you posted these stories on neocon and Repub boards to remind them THEY sent the troops in Iraq, and that there are US troops in stinking Iraq who don't want to be there and think they shouldn't be there in the first place ?

You see, the problem is you only post stories of those who WANT TO BE IN IRAQ and we can't do much for them because they already got what they want.
QUOTE
Be sure to explain very carefully that it is much more important to hate George Bush than it is to show support the United States so they will understand your motives. 

????
If anybody does what you suggest, those poor Marines will end up as confused as I am right now. The best is to keep the lunatic Chimp out of this.
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Otherwise they might just think you to just be an anti-American shrill.
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Yeah, that's a bugger, ain't it, bet they get bored real fast. But can it really get you bored faster than a flood of US Marine's Public Affairs reports some supremacist shrill keeps posting on CGCS ?
Marine
QUOTE(picadilly @ Jun 16 2005, 02:48 AM)
Many of the stories are provided with an e-mail address of the Marine or the writer of the story, feel welcome to write them and express your displeasure. 

Let's see...

Memorial Day remembered in Iraq
Submitted by: 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story Identification #: 2005530141030
Story by Cpl. C. Alex Herron
herronca@acemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil*

First sergeant remembered on Memorial Day in Iraq
Submitted by: 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story by: Computed Name: Cpl. C. Alex Herron
Story Identification #: 200553171820

Cobras strike in support of border fight
Submitted by: 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story Identification #: 2005530142150
Story by Cpl. Rocco DeFilippis
defilippisrc@acemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil

Somerton native sets standard for Marines in Iraq
Submitted by: 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story Identification #: 2005630234
Story by Cpl. Rocco DeFilippis

Houston native drives, strives for success
Submitted by: 2nd Force Service Support Group
Story by: Computed Name: Cpl. C. J. Yard
Story Identification #: 200567134149
For more information about the Marines or news reported in this story, contact by e-mail cssemnfpao@cssemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil.
"Many" is actually 5 found in the flood of second hand account stories, written by PA reporters. I don't blame the PA reporters, what they were ordered to report about has as much factual value as if I were to tell you about my cats.

If any Marines in Iraq have any personal stories to report about, they can sign up on CGCS. I have several sponsored accounts already paid for, open and waiting.

Second, I've been wanting to ask you Marine, wouldn't your time be better spent if you posted these stories on neocon and Repub boards to remind them THEY sent the troops in Iraq, and that there are US troops in stinking Iraq who don't want to be there and think they shouldn't be there in the first place ?

You see, the problem is you only post stories of those who WANT TO BE IN IRAQ and we can't do much for them because they already got what they want.

????
If anybody does what you suggest, those poor Marines will end up as confused as I am right now. The best is to keep the lunatic Chimp out of this.

Yeah, that's a bugger, ain't it, bet they get bored real fast. But can it really get you bored faster than a flood of US Marine's Public Affairs reports some supremacist shrill keeps posting on CGCS ?
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No picadilly , my time is well spent here. There are a bunch of folks on this board who have bought in to the proposition that fighting terrorism is supporting George Bush. Hating George Bush should not over ride the security of the United States.

It used to be fashionable to be a war protestor, not since some people came here and crashed airplanes into buildings. One of these days the anti-war people will realize things have changed, they are out of style, and last year's dress isn't this year's fashion.
Marine
U.S. Marine Corps
Sgt. Chad W. Small and
Cpl. Dmitry Petrenko

On the Road to Recovery: Noncommissioned Officers Lead Supply Convoys in Iraq

By U.S. Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Jim Goodwin
1st Force Service Support Group

CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq, Dec. 20, 2004 — Marine Sgt. Chad W. Small just missed his three-year-old daughter's birthday. He's missed a few special days, not to mention the holidays, with his wife, Erin, and daughter, Faith, back in southern California.

"Every time I would come home from work, I would take my daughter swimming," said Small, reflecting on his last days at Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Calif. "I understand she's doing pretty good in the pool now."

It's been a while since Small took his daughter swimming. In fact, the last time he saw his family was when he kissed them goodbye and headed to Iraq, where he's been for nearly four months along with the rest of his unit, Combat Service Support Company 115.

The 22-year-old Phoenix, Ariz., native leads daily military supply convoys to Marine and Iraqi military posts near Fallujah. He is one of four convoy commanders for the company, a role traditionally filled by a more senior Marine, such as a staff noncommissioned officer, or a junior officer.

Today, Small is riding in a Humvee mounted with a machine gun, leading a convoy of vehicles carrying supplies, such as food and water, to Marines who have spent the past month ridding Fallujah of insurgents.

"The more insurgents they kill, the more weapons they find, decreases the threat against my Marines and every Marine driving a truck out here," said Small.

It's a cloudy, cold day. Small sips coffee from a tin mug in the passenger side of his Humvee. The sun is still rising as his Humvee pulls into a gravel lot across from the base chow hall, followed by the rest of the convoy's vehicles, 7-ton and flatbed trucks.

As a convoy commander, his mission is to ensure the supplies are delivered to their destinations on time.

As a non-commissioned officer, he is responsible for both the success of the mission and the safe return of the Marines under him.

Due to the frequent requests for supplies to Marine and Iraqi forces operating in Fallujah, the unit relies on its small-unit leaders — noncommissioned officers like Small — to take charge of the shorter, more local convoys.

"We could not function at the operational tempo we are at without them. There's just no way," said 1st Lt. Alexandria S. Plucinski, a platoon and convoy commander for the unit.

The responsibility of convoy commanders is great, according to Plucinski.

"You have to know what gear to bring, your convoy route, where to offload, and what your battle space is," said the 27-year-old Chicago native.

Prior to departing the base, Small allows his Marines to stop and eat breakfast.

"It's the most important meal of the day," he said, standing outside his Humvee in the cold. He watches the vehicles and supplies while his Marines go inside the heated chowhall to eat.

Once on the road, they stop only to drop off their loads - pallets of Meals, Ready to Eat, thousands of bottles of water, 10,000 gallons of additional water, and fuel.

CSSC-115, a subordinate unit of Combat Service Support Battalion 1, provides supplies, such as food and ammunition, even toothpaste to cigarettes, and everything in between, to Marine units operating in and around Fallujah. Small, along with the rest of the Marines in his platoon, worked 16-19 hour days during the first several weeks of combat, making three to four daily runs to Marine bases around the city.

Even though combat operations are slowly dying down in the combat-ridden "City of Mosques," Small knows contact with the enemy is always a possibility.

Perhaps the most infamous of these threats are IEDs, or improvised explosive devices, roadside bombs set up by terrorists to destroy and disrupt convoys.

"It's always in the back of my mind," said Small, tucking a pinch of cherry-flavored tobacco under his bottom lip. "Everyone knows the risks, but without us, the forward units wouldn't have supplies.

Since arriving in Iraq in August, CSSC-115 has suffered one IED attack. Two Marines were injured and one truck damaged during the logistical convoy.

"I was thanking God that those Marines came out of there alive," said Small, who converted to Catholicism just six months ago. "I feel it's a strong religion. Catholics confess their sins, which makes you strong with God, which makes you think about your actions more thoroughly."

In the left breast pocket of his digital pattern camouflage uniform, Small keeps a small religious medallion embossed with the face of the Pope. "It's for good luck. I always do prayers before convoys," said Small. He also has a set of wooden rosary beads which he had blessed by a Roman Catholic Cardinal during a port stop last year on ship to Rome.

"Faith in Gods helps, especially when you've had a bad day," he said.

As his Marines begin to "mount up" in their vehicles, Small walks around to each vehicle in line to make sure everyone is ready to go. Placing his Kevlar helmet on his head, he gives the thumbs up to the truck driver behind him, jumps into his Humvee, and gives the word for the convoy to depart.

Armed with an array of heavy-caliber machine guns and rifles, the Marines take no chances on Iraq's open roads. A convoy commander must know when to fend off potential threats - whether to employ their weapons to take out the enemy, and when to use flares to deter civilians driving too fast and close to the convoy.

Such decisions lie in the hands of the convoy commander.

"They have to know when to shoot," said Plucinski. "We're not there to make the decisions for them."

After providing fuel and water to a nearby Iraqi military training camp, Small's convoy makes a short trek to Camp Baharia, the headquarters base for one of the Marine infantry units that has sustained a number of casualties during heaving fighting in Fallujah.

Small watches closely as his assistant convoy commander, Cpl. Dmitry Petrenko, directs one of the convoy's truck drivers where to place a 20-foot metal container filled with bottled water.

Petrenko is a 20-year-old reserve Marine from Queens, N.Y. A truck driver and vehicle commander during last year's push to Baghdad, Petrenko volunteered to return to Iraq.

"I think I would have had more regrets if I stayed home," said Petrenko, who migrated with his parents from Ukraine to the United States 10 years ago.

As Petrenko guides the truck into the muddy, open field next to dozens of other supply containers, Small nods in approval, only assisting when called upon. "I expect them to be able to do my job," said Small of his subordinates.

He emphasizes the importance of accountability to the Marines under his charge: "Leaving someone behind out here is a mistake you can't afford."

Graduating from Moon Valley High School in Glendale, Ariz., Small enlisted in the Marine Corps four years ago. He says he's wanted to be a Marine since the ninth grade, when he first saw the Marine recruiter in dress blues at his school. He wanted to be a "real warrior," like the recruiter. His participation in his school's Naval Junior Recruit Officer Training Corps program also helped spur his interest in military life, he said.


U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Chad W. Small is a 22-year-old Marine currently deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. The Phoenix, Ariz., native leads daily military supply convoys to Marine and Iraqi military posts near Fallujah. Small is one of four convoy commanders for Combat Service Support Company 115, a role traditionally filled by a more senior Marine. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Staff Sgt. Jim Goodwin



U.S. Marine Corps Cpl. Dmitry Petrenko, an assistant convoy commander and military truck driver, gives an early morning brief to Marines of Combat Service Support Company 115 prior to heading out on a supply convoy to various Marine and Iraq military posts near Fallujah, Iraq, Dec. 17, 2004. Petrenko is a 20-year-old reserve Marine from Queens, N.Y. A truck driver and vehicle commander during last year's push to Baghdad, Petrenko volunteered to return to Iraq with the Camp Pendleton, Calif.-based CSSC-115. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Staff Sgt. Jim Goodwin



As a newly promoted lance corporal several years ago, Small was placed in charge of about 20 Marines within the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, based out of Camp Lejeune, N.C. He's been placed in leadership positions ever since, he said.

"When I'm not running my own show, I feel kind of ridiculous," he said.

He prides himself on his "can do" attitude, and expects nothing less of his Marines.

"One thing I can't stand is when someone tells me, 'It can't be done,'" said Small. "I'll find a way to get it done."

After dropping off the water, Small, Petrenko and several other Marine truck drivers within the convoy spend nearly two hours waiting for another truck to finish replenishing various water points around the camp.

It takes only a few minutes before the Marines are joking around with one another, quoting lines from favorite comedies, talking about historical events and who has yet to purchase a copy of "Halo 2," a popular video game the Marines play together in their off-time.

Half a world apart from loved ones, many of the Marines who work for Small are also his friends - relationships built over the past few months from spending hours on, and off, the road together.

At Camp Fallujah, Marines work, eat, and live together. It's not uncommon for three to four Marines to share a single trailer, similar to roommates in a college dorm room.

"The only personal time you have is when you're taking a shower, or lying in bed at night thinking about home," said Small.

On the road, monotony can set in, leading to complacency. A common credo for Marines in Iraq is "Complacency Kills," a message posted on various wooden signs throughout the base.

Small drills this into his Marines, not just by telling them, but by conditioning them to stay alert and keep aware of their surroundings at all times.

Two truck drivers on this particular convoy, Lance Cpl. Cory S. Henderson, a 19-year-old native of San Bernardino, Calif., and Lance Cpl. Ruston E. Franklin, a 22-year-old Tennessean from Nashville, listen to music CDs in a portable DVD player mounted to his truck's dashboard between supply drop-off points.

"Music's my motivation," said Henderson, a tall Marine who wants to break into the heavy metal music industry when he gets out of the Marine Corps. "But you have to stay alert out here."

"The roads can get kind of scary," chimes in Franklin, in a deep voice as he drives with the rest of the convoy past an Iraqi town, stray dogs wandering around the roadsides. "It's just like the signs say, 'complacency kills.' You just have to keep your eyes open."

Still immersed in conversation about movies and video games, the remaining supply truck rejoins the rest of the convoy at the staging area at Camp Baharia.

One more stop separates Small's convoy from a "mission complete" status. They must return to the Iraqi military post and link up with a truck left there to finish refueling the base's large fuel tanks.

Helmets on their heads, the Marines clamber inside their vehicles, some retaking their positions behind the belt-fed machine guns atop the vehicles. Like a set of railroad cars tailing behind a steam engine train, the convoy cuts through a dirt road leading off the base, and out onto the highway to their destination.

Upon their arrival, Iraqi national guardsmen carrying AK-47s halt the line of vehicles at the post's front gate. Small signs a clipboard, and the convoy continues its journey.

When time permits, the Marines interact with the Iraqis, at least as much as the language barrier will allow.

On a different convoy, the Marines spent several minutes talking with Iraqi soldiers at another training compound not far from Fallujah.

Petrenko gave a copy of Maxim Magazine to one of the soldiers, who held it up to show the other Iraqis.

"They're pissed off because of what's been done to their country," said Small, matter-of-factly. "But they want us here. They appreciate what we're doing."

Last month, CSSC-115 was tasked with transporting insurgent detainees from Fallujah to other holding areas in addition to transporting supplies to Marine units.

While Small is optimistic about the progress made in Fallujah, he hears about the pockets of resistance Marines are still fighting in the war-torn city.

"Overall, the threat has decreased, but they can still get more weapons, and more (fighters)," he said. "If they still have pockets of resistance, they can still set up IEDs."

By late afternoon, the convoy has returned to Camp Fallujah. After stopping to refuel the vehicles for tomorrow's convoy, the Marines pull into the company's large, gravel lot to park their vehicles.

The machine guns are dismounted, cleaned, and returned to the unit's armory, the Marines are debriefed and dismissed. Small heads to the little, wooden shack, which serves as the company's operations center, where convoys are planned and monitored.

Carrying his M16 rifle, helmet, armored vest and his coffee mug, and not quite as talkative as he was earlier in the day, Small looks out into the open lot, which was hit by a rocket when the unit first arrived to Iraq.

Standing there, he may have been thinking about the next day's convoy, or perhaps the cruise he and his wife will take as a vacation when he comes home. Or perhaps he was simply thinking about another mission completed, another day he and his Marines can cross off their calendars as time served in Iraq.

"Well, I have to start getting ready for the class on Sunday," he said, responding to a question.

On Sundays, Small teaches a motor vehicle operator's class on one of the unit's large convoy trucks - something he does to help keep his unit trained for the road.

"I just try to stay as busy as possible out here," he said, shrugging. "Stay focused on the job and the mission. That's it. Busy makes the time go by."
Marine

03/01/05 - U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Alberto Sanchez Jr. entertains El Salvadorian children with a pinata filled with candy in the town of El Tortuguero on March 1, 2005. DoD photo by Staff Sgt. Reynaldo Ramon, U.S. Air Force.
piccadilly
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 16 2005, 06:53 AM)
No picadilly , my time is well spent here.  There are a bunch of folks on this board who have bought in to the proposition that fighting terrorism is supporting George Bush.  Hating George Bush should not over ride the security of the United States.

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Fighting terrorism, in Iraq ? We deliberately invaded Iraq, unprovoked, so how can you possibly expect no resistance ?

And how exactly do you expect these sterilized PA reports to convince these folks that our troops are IN FACT fighting terrorism and not doing some special, hazardous training camp in the mideast ?

When I read those reports you post, I read a lot about glorified military life, but nothing about War. Read the reports Marine, where is the war in those reports ? They even picture gunfights as some kind of accident !
Marine
QUOTE(picadilly @ Jun 16 2005, 10:26 AM)
Fighting terrorism, in Iraq ? We deliberately invaded Iraq, unprovoked, so how can you possibly expect no resistance ?

And how exactly do you expect these sterilized PA reports to convince these folks that our troops are IN FACT fighting terrorism and not doing some special, hazardous training camp in the mideast ?

When I read those reports you post, I read a lot about glorified military life, but nothing about War. Read the reports Marine, where is the war in those reports ? They even picture gunfights as some kind of accident !
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Well picadilly, gunfights usually are some kind of accident. If you can think of ultimate chaos, you can think of war.

Even when you are looking for the enemy he isn't going to be where you want him to be; if someone tells you where he is at, he will have moved before you can get there; and when you least suspect it is when something will happen.

Yeah, we are fighting terrorism in Iraq, if we weren't Iran and Syria wouldn't be helping Jihadist to get there. Have you looked at who the suicide bombers are? They're not Iraqis.
amy
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 16 2005, 02:31 PM)
Well picadilly, gunfights usually are some kind of accident.  If you can think of ultimate chaos, you can think of war.

Even when you are looking for the enemy he isn't going to be where you want him to be; if someone tells you where he is at, he will have moved before you can get there; and when you least suspect it is when something will happen.

Yeah, we are fighting terrorism in Iraq, if we weren't Iran and Syria wouldn't be helping Jihadist to get there.  Have you looked at who the suicide bombers are?  They're not Iraqis.
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But there were no terrorists in Iraq before the war, so it's good that there are now? Oh, I get it-Bush wants to "contain the terrorists" as best as possible in one area, drawing them to Iraq so the fight can be fought in Iraq rather than in the U.S. You know, keep the terrorist orgs busy in Iraq so they don't have much time to plan another attack on U.S. soil. I wonder if the Iraqi people gave Bush permission to draw terrorists to their soil? My guess would be, no they did not.
Marine
QUOTE(amy @ Jun 16 2005, 01:03 PM)
But there were no terrorists in Iraq before the war, so it's good that there are now? Oh, I get it-Bush wants to "contain the terrorists" as best as possible in one area, drawing them to Iraq so the fight can be fought in Iraq rather than in the U.S. You know, keep the terrorist orgs busy in Iraq so they don't have much time to plan another attack on  U.S. soil. I wonder if the Iraqi people gave Bush permission to draw terrorists to their soil? My guess would be, no they did not.
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Maybe then we should hand the keys back to Saddam would be a your choice then? I don't see that as very good thinking.

I think you keep forgeting the reason we invaded Iraq was because we feared they had WMD which would be made available to terrorist, remember that little detail? I think the intelligence community screwed that up.

So what do we do now, throw our hands up and say "so-long you're on your own now, we didn't find the WMD, sorry, we screwed up, you do what ever you want with your country". Now, how responsible would that be?

Iran and Syria allow foreign fighters into Iraq because they know as soon as we are not busy in Iraq, they are next on the agenda.
heart
QUOTE(picadilly @ Jun 16 2005, 02:48 AM)
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"Many" is actually 5 found in the flood of second hand account stories, written by PA reporters. I don't blame the PA reporters, what they were ordered to report about has as much factual value as if I were to tell you about my cats.

If any Marines in Iraq have any personal stories to report about, they can sign up on CGCS. I have several sponsored accounts already paid for, open and waiting.

Second, I've been wanting to ask you Marine, wouldn't your time be better spent if you posted these stories on neocon and Repub boards to remind them THEY sent the troops in Iraq, and that there are US troops in stinking Iraq who don't want to be there and think they shouldn't be there in the first place ?

You see, the problem is you only post stories of those who WANT TO BE IN IRAQ and we can't do much for them because they already got what they want.

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If anybody does what you suggest, those poor Marines will end up as confused as I am right now. The best is to keep the lunatic Chimp out of this.

Yeah, that's a bugger, ain't it, bet they get bored real fast. But can it really get you bored faster than a flood of US Marine's Public Affairs reports some supremacist shrill keeps posting on CGCS ?


If you like I can provide those "first hand accounts from letters, posts, and other supporters that do NOT come from any PR site, but would that change your mind? Absolutely not!

You are saying that these people should sign up here Duck? Well...I doubt they would be interested in hearing all of this crap after they served their country and were happy to do so. We are not even particularly important enough for people to "convince" since so many here seem to disregard the mulititude of similar reports from Iraq. Scraping the bottom to find every possible anti-military drudge is no more, nor less, that PR for those against the war.

Your suggestion that someone's time would be better spent posting to Republican websites about this is problematic. You see, DEMOCRATS are supporting our troops and their desire to accomplish their mission, their belief in their mission and the good they are doing in the world. It is not a REPUBLICAN issue no matter how much you might want it to be. I do not think that Marine or myself should have to go stand with the Republicans, or leave the title of "progressives, moderates, and democrats" to those who are against the war or who will not, or do not want to listen, to any possible good coming out of our troops service in Iraq. That is just as much McCarthyism as when Republicans will not allow anyone to challenge the job in Iraq.

Furthermore, no one said that work had to please you, or anyone who posts in this forum did they? Some people feel the need to do the good work as they see it, irrrespective of whether or not it is appreciated by others...it's a dharma type thing.

There are many people who read this forum, and others who read this part of the forum, but do not post here. While I'm sure it would be in the interests of some highly partisan anti-war activist to hear only one side of the story (the bad side), other people feel differently...other people would like to hear both sides and that balanced view is sorely missing here. I for one, do not want to present a picture to the world that DEMOCRATS are all against the war, and do not have any appriciation for the troops and their work. I am sure that many would agree, including many on this forum.

Those who want to be in Iraq deserve to have us hear their story too. Those who want to be in Iraq make up the largest segment of the soldiers there (in as much as anyone wants to be away from home and in a war zone). There have been many wars, and many interventions, and soldiers do not pick which war they serve in, nor who their commander in chief is do they? When a Democrat sends them to a battle (like say Kosovo) I saw Democrats backing our military and Republicans carping about "wag the dog", so the tables can turn at any time, and it's important to remember that we need to represent our soldiers with just as much fairness now, as we did then, and as we would in the future. I'm sure there was some section of those who served in Kosovo that did not believe in their mission, and were unhappy to go, but in fairness to our military, they went anyway and did their jobs...the least we could do is support them as equally, across time, as they have the US.

The truth about the "letters to the soldiers" is that they only hear from Republicans these days...and this alone is more alarming to me Picadilly than any other factor at hand. This war will end. These soldiers will come home. We always talk about the Republicans capturing all three branches of government....but what defends and protects those branches? The law...some what yes...but the military does too, and we are slowly losing all of the military personnel to the Republicans (particularly since they get out of the military and go into front line emergency work, like police, fire and government). There may come a day Duck, when that military will have to choose whether or not to turn their guns on us. If that day comes, it would be much better if they were NOT all on the other side!

Sure we can discuss the war, and sure we can talk about the pros and cons of Iraq...but how does it profit any of us to hear only the bad news (sifted just as carefully for the bad side as the you claim Marine sifts for the good side) or to hear only the news that reinforces our own pre-established beliefs. Overall, how does it profit us, in the long run, to listen ONLY to those stories from Iraq that speak to the worst, and to never respect and honor our troops for their real accomplishments?

Oh, and for eveyone's information....there are not many more than 5 people who post in this forum either, so if 5 is not representative, than WE are not either!
amy
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 16 2005, 03:44 PM)
Maybe then we should hand the keys back to Saddam would be a your choice then?  I don't see that as very good thinking.

I think you keep forgeting the reason we invaded Iraq was because we feared they had WMD which would be made available to terrorist, remember that little detail?  I think the intelligence community screwed that up.

So what do we do now, throw our hands up and say "so-long you're on your own now, we didn't find the WMD, sorry, we screwed up, you do what ever you want with your country".  Now, how responsible would that be?

Iran and Syria allow foreign fighters into Iraq because they know as soon as we are not busy in Iraq, they are next on the agenda.
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The intelligence community apparently very badly screwed up the info they gave to the White House. But my point has always been, Marine,that I do not believe the White house was willing to really consider opposing evidence (or lack of evidence) about WMD. I realize that you are saying that Bush did not want to take the chance that the intelligence was accurate; that the stakes were too high too ignore if the intelligence was correct. I understand that level of concern.BUT Marine, think about this. If 9/11 had not occurred would Bush have invaded Iraq? Apparently intelligence indicated that Saddam had WMD and the means for delivering them to our doorstep, whether 9/11 happened or not.We knew the terrorists were not from Iraq, we knew that there were no Al queda training camps in Iraq. So I'm supposed to believe that since terrorists had the audacity to fly planes into the WTC, Saddam was thinking that it was time for him to jump on the "we hate America" bandwagon and send missiles to our shores or start
funding terrorist activities against the U.S.? Post 9/11 Saddam is an immediate problem but not an imminent threat pre 9/11? 9/11 was an excuse for invading Iraq and I believe the invasion has a lot more to do with oil and permanent U.S.military bases in Iraq. And remember Marine inspectors would have been able to determine the threat level of the supposed WMD in Iraq. Allowing inspectors to continue on would have saved thousands of lives and billions of American dollars.
amy
[quote=heart,Jun 16 2005, 04:53 PM]
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Those who want to be in Iraq make up the largest segment of the soldiers there (in as much as anyone wants to be away from home and in a war zone). The truth about the "letters to the soldiers" is that they only hear from Republicans these days...and this alone is more alarming to me Picadilly than any other factor at hand. We always talk about the Republicans capturing all three branches of government....but what defends and protects those branches? The law...some what yes...but the military does too, and we are slowly losing all of the military personnel to the Republicans. There may come a day Duck, when that military will have to choose whether or not to turn their guns on us. If that day comes, it would be much better if they were NOT all on the other side!

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Just curious Heart, how do you know that the largest segment of the soldiers in Iraq want to be there?

And I'm wondering what you mean when you say that there may come a day when our military, the majority of whom are republicans, will have to choose whether or not to turn their guns on us? What are you talking about!
real_democrat
QUOTE(heart @ Jun 16 2005, 03:53 PM)
Your suggestion that someone's time would be better spent posting to Republican websites about this is problematic.  You see, DEMOCRATS are supporting our troops and their desire to accomplish their mission, their belief in their mission and the good they are doing in the world.  It is not a REPUBLICAN issue no matter how much you might want it to be.  I do not think that Marine or myself should have to go stand with the Republicans, or leave the title of "progressives, moderates, and democrats" to those who are against the war or who will not, or do not want to listen, to any possible good coming out of our troops service in Iraq. 
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Marine certainly has the right to post all the pro-war stuff he wants, but that does not mean the rest of us has to pretend there is any possable good coming out of this war. Most Americans oppose the war, and the majority of Democrats are against the war, not in spite of the soldiers who fight, but in large part because we do support their service. We know it is wrong to ask other people to risk their lives for us when we were not threatened, and that goes for Kosovo too. The majortiy of rank and file Democrats are against the war and always have been, and we should be proud of that. Everyday Democrats are by a huge majority antiwar, even if our DLC crafted leadership does not get it. If people get the impression from reading this forum most Democrats oppose the war, it is because we do.


QUOTE(heart @ Jun 16 2005, 03:53 PM)
There may come a day Duck, when that military will have to choose whether or not to turn their guns on us.  If that day comes, it would be much better if they were NOT all on the other side! 
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They already are, do you really believe they are suddenly going to move to the left?
real_democrat
Stan Goff, a veteran tells it...

An Open Letter to US Troops in Afghanistan and Iraq


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Since they'd made up their minds, they didn't want to hear anything except rosy scenarios for their plans, because these reptile-minded, preppy gangsters are like spoiled children who can't abide anyone "expletive deleted"ing up their toy-emperor fantasies.

But when those fantasies did get "expletive deleted"ed up, by the realities they ran so hard to escape, they continued to pursue their grim agenda in spite of the mounting consequences, because they don't pay those consequences.

If I had my way, we would issue the whole shriveled, manicured lot of them their assault rifles, put them aboard an Air Force transport, tighten the leg straps on their static line parachutes, and boot their sorry asses out from 800 feet right over the middle of Ramadi ­ where they could drop their harnesses in the street and explain democracy to the locals.

But that's just ranting, because I do so despise them. I hate people who get away with "expletive deleted" just because they have money and power. And I hate people who sacrifice the lives of others to amplify or protect that power.


And it sounds even better when the expletive's are un-deleted! The site automatically sanitizes them away, like some cyber-FCC.
flydangler
BTW heart, methinks I saw someplace that the majority of folks in our military are neither registered Republican or Democrat, but that they tend to vote more for Republicans by a pretty healthy margin. Not exactly sure where I saw it, but methinks 'twas on tee vee, eh?

As to the assertions that there were no terrorists in Iraq while Saddam was in power, what about Abu Nidal? Also doubt that Salman Pak was a Girl Scout camp, eh?

One last thing. Why do people here tend to forget Saddam's proven direct support for Al Queda related groups actions that resulted in the deaths of Americans overseas like Abu Sayef's October 2002 terrorist bombing in Zamboanga or the Moro Islamic Lliberation Front's February 2003 terrorist bombing in Davao, and the fact Iraqi diplomats like Hassan Hussain were deported for their complicity in them? 'Tis a puzzlement!
amy
QUOTE(flydangler @ Jun 16 2005, 10:15 PM)
BTW heart, methinks I saw someplace that the majority of folks in our military are neither registered Republican or Democrat, but that they tend to vote more for Republicans by a pretty healthy margin. Not exactly sure where I saw it, but methinks 'twas on tee vee, eh?

As to the assertions that there were no terrorists in Iraq while Saddam was in power, what about Abu Nidal? Also doubt that Salman Pak was a Girl Scout camp, eh?

One last thing. Why do people here tend to forget Saddam's proven direct support for Al Queda related groups actions that resulted in the deaths of Americans overseas like Abu Sayef's October 2002 terrorist bombing in Zamboanga or the Moro Islamic Lliberation Front's February 2003 terrorist bombing in Davao, and the fact Iraqi diplomats like Hassan Hussain were deported for their complicity in them? 'Tis a puzzlement!
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Did Bush name the names you give here as evidence of Saddam's support of terrorists and Al Queda related groups?
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flydangler
QUOTE(amy @ Jun 16 2005, 10:31 PM)
Did Bush name the names you give here as evidence of Saddam's support of terrorists and Al Queda related groups?
Methinks some of his mouthpieces mighta mentioned Abu Nidal and the terrorist training camp at Salman Pak. To be honest I don't recall anybody from the administration ever bringing up Abu Sayeff or the MILF and I could never figure out why, eh? Not too smart methinks!
amy
QUOTE(flydangler @ Jun 16 2005, 10:38 PM)
Methinks some of his mouthpieces mighta mentioned Abu Nidal and the terrorist training camp at Salman Pak. To be honest I don't recall anybody from the administration ever bringing up Abu Sayeff or the MILF and I could never figure out why, eh? Not too smart methinks!
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flydangler,
The White House should put you on its payroll-you know information that not even Bush could find to put in his "call to arms" speeches!
Marine
QUOTE(amy @ Jun 16 2005, 04:47 PM)
The intelligence community apparently very badly screwed up the info they gave to the White House. But my point has always been, Marine,that I do not believe the  White house was willing to really consider opposing evidence (or lack of evidence) about WMD. I realize that you are saying that Bush did not want to take the chance that the intelligence was accurate; that the stakes were too high too ignore if the intelligence was correct. I understand that level of concern.BUT Marine, think about this. If 9/11 had not occurred would Bush have invaded Iraq? Apparently intelligence indicated that Saddam had WMD and the means for delivering them to our doorstep, whether 9/11 happened or not.We knew the terrorists were not from Iraq, we knew that there were no Al queda training camps in Iraq. So I'm supposed to believe that since terrorists had the audacity to fly planes into the WTC, Saddam was thinking  that it was time for him to jump on the "we hate America" bandwagon and send missiles to our shores or start
funding terrorist activities against the U.S.? Post 9/11  Saddam is an immediate  problem but not an imminent threat pre 9/11? 9/11 was an excuse for invading Iraq and I believe the invasion has a lot more to do with oil and  permanent U.S.military bases in Iraq. And remember Marine inspectors would have been able to determine the threat level of the supposed WMD in Iraq. Allowing inspectors to continue on would have saved thousands of lives and billions of American dollars.
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I remember Hans Blitz coming back with the story the Iraqis were not as forth coming with the inspectors as he expected for them to be.

I also remember Saddam playing catch me if you can games with the inspectors.

Personally I believe Saddam played games when it wasn't going to be tolerated to play games and he paid the price for it.

Had 9/11 not happened I doubt if Iraq would have been invaded. The world changed forever on 9/11/2001.
flydangler
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 16 2005, 10:41 PM)
Since every response I have received on the Downing Street memo has consisted of nothing but posturing and hyperbole I conclude the Downing Street memo to be the figment of somebody's imagination and/or wishful thinking.
Oh, it exists alright but methinks Michael Kinsley's most recent piece probably puts a bit of a different perspective on the subject. At least 'twould seem to put it inna light many here don't seem ta wanna consider, eh?
QUOTE(amy @ Jun 16 2005, 10:43 PM)
flydangler,
The White House should put you on its payroll-you know information that not even Bush could find to put in his "call to arms" speeches!
Nah, methinks my dislike for rhetoric and hyperbole would not hold me in good stead or make folks feel warm and fuzzy 'bout me, eh? If his folks couldn't find this info then they didn't look very hard. Methinks we covered most of it in links listed in this thread a while back.
Marine

U.S. Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Darrell D. Coleman clears his M 249 Squad Automatic Weapon after firing at numerous targets at a squad defense range at Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif. The Dinwiddie, Va., native prepares with his fellow Marines for their upcoming deployment to Iraq in support of the Global War on Terrorism. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Athanasios L. Genos


U.S. Marine Corps
Lance Cpl. Durrell D. Coleman

Motivation, high morale keep Marine ready
for anything as he trains for an upcoming deployment to Iraq.

By U.S. Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Athanasios L. Genos
2nd Marine Division

MARINE CORPS AIR GROUND COMBAT CENTER, TWENTYNINE PALMS, Calif.— Sighting on the mounds of dirt in front of him, the Dinwiddie, Va., native eagerly awaits for targets to appear so he can fire his machine gun, eliminating targets as quickly as possible.

Motivation and high morale keeps U.S. Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Durrell D. Coleman, a field wireman attached to the Personal Security Detail of Headquarters and Service Company, 3rd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, ready for anything as he trains for an upcoming deployment to Iraq.

“Having high morale helps keep us focused on our jobs,” the 2003 Dinwiddie High School graduate explained.

With a cool, early morning breeze blowing around them, Coleman and his fellow Marines mounted the 7-ton vehicles ready to begin their training.

He began singing along with a few other Marines as others looked on in amazement at the sight they saw. Singing all different kinds of songs is a normal routine for them, whether doing regular duties or in the field training.

Smiling, Coleman said, “Singing and making music have always been some of my favorite things to do.”

The Marines let their vocal cords rest as they arrived at the squad defense range. They were briefed on what training they would be participating in and how they will use it in Iraq.

The Marines with combat experience and those who have deployed before explained how important the training is by citing personal experiences.

Coleman and the other Marines were issued rounds to begin the first course of firing. After receiving their training and a safety briefs, the two relays went through the course twice while facing three different scenarios each time. Coleman fired an M16 A4 Service Rifle in the first two relays. After all relays were finished, he was one of 20 Marines who fired the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon.

“I am more comfortable firing the [Squad Automatic Weapon] than anything else,” Coleman said. “It just feels more natural to me when I’m firing machine guns.”

Coleman was sent to Haiti with his battalion just shortly after he arrived at Camp Lejeune. He was fresh out of his job training and not too familiar with his job responsibilities while in a deployed environment. He was able to learn from the situations he faced and from the guidance he received from his superiors.




U.S. Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Darrell D. Coleman fires an M 249 Squad Automatic Weapon at stationary and moving targets while training at a squad defense range at Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif. The Dinwiddie, Va., native prepares with his fellow Marines for their upcoming deployment to Iraq in support of the Global War on Terrorism. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Athanasios L. Genos


Coleman met the battalion chaplain in Haiti while on post. Establishing a good working relationship with Navy Lt. j.g. Robert E. Bradshaw, he was able to go to him with any problems or discouragements. Talking with the chaplain provided Coleman with a way to keep his morale high during their deployment.

“Just having the chaplain there to talk to, helped me with morale and keeping my motivation high,” Coleman explained.

“If you don’t know the Marines and sailors on their regular days, you can’t know then on their down days,” Bradshaw explained.

The experiences from Haiti have helped prepare Coleman for what he will face when deployed to Iraq.

“While in Haiti, I was given the chance to experience my job in the field and know what I would be facing in future deployments,” Coleman explained. “I went on convoys, patrols and provided security while I was there.”

The squad defense training, along with all previous training done during the evolution has also given him more confidence to complete his mission as a rifleman and field wireman.

All the experience Coleman gained in Haiti, along with his extensive predeployment training has prepared him for his departure from the comforts and security of home to Iraq with his battalion.
amy
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 16 2005, 10:54 PM)
I remember Hans Blitz coming back with the story the Iraqis were not as forth coming with the inspectors as he expected for them to be.

I also remember Saddam playing catch me if you can games with the inspectors.

Personally I believe Saddam played games when it wasn't going to be tolerated to play games and he paid the price for it.

Had 9/11 not happened I doubt if Iraq would have been invaded.  The world changed forever on 9/11/2001.
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Exactly. How much of a clear and present danger was Saddam, really? If he had been, the intelligence would have led to action prior to 9/11. And yes Saddam played games with the inspectors-but apparently the fact that Bush punished Saddam for his recalitrance is not frightening N.Korea or Iran into submission. So again, I ask-why are we really in Iraq?
Marine
U.S. Marine Corps
Cpl. John Cain

Corporal Loves Being a Marine
By U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Stephen D’Alessio
2nd Marine Division Combat Correspondent

MARINE CORPS BASE CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C., Dec. 10, 2004 — Most Marines relish their ‘down time' when they get back from conducting maneuvers in a field training environment or coming back from the war, but for one corporal with 2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, time away from his weapon is time wasted.

John Joseph Cain, a tall, 23-year-old from Midwest City, Okla. is a member of the battalion's Combined Anti-Armor Team. The team is basically the battalion's heavy gun platoon, reinforced with anything from machineguns to grenade launchers and even missile systems.

According to Cain, it's a tough job, but one of the best to have because of the firepower he and his team members have in their grasp.

As he cleans his medium machinegun at the regimental armory, one of the junior Marines in his charge asks if he wants anything to drink.

“I'll take a Coke,” he said, briefly looking up from the barrel of his weapon – never stopping from vigorously brushing oil on the flash suppressor. “He's a really good Marine, he continued – speaking of the private first class who just offered him the beverage. He's only 15 semester hours short of a bachelor's degree. That's the kind of men we have here.”

Cain takes immense pride in the warrior ethos that comes with being a Marine infantryman. But he also prides himself and his team members on being intelligent, unlike the stigma sometimes attached to the “grunts” that makes them seem like drones.

“It's not like that,” Cain said. “I did a lot before I joined the Corps. As a matter of a fact, I had a full ride to college, but I wanted to carry on the legacy of my family as warriors. My dad was a Marine from ‘61 through ‘68 and my uncle was an Army Ranger during the Vietnam Conflict. My other two uncles were door gunners on gun ships during that era. I wanted to fight, so I joined.”

And it couldn't have been a better time to get in the fight, said the corporal. Eight days after Sept. 11, he was shipped to boot camp to undergo one of the most vigorous basic training evolutions in the world.

When he graduated from the School of Infantry, he joined his current unit. They said there hasn't been any action since Grenada. Cain felt disappointed, but he didn't know what was in store. After all, being a Marine was something he had dreamed about since he was a child.

Cain's upbringing was not a conventional one. He was home schooled for most of his primary education and he graduated at 19. He worked as a page in the state senate house when he was 15 and 16, carrying messages and running errands




U.S. Marine Cpl. John Cain said he turned down college to carry on the legacy of his family as warriors. U.S. Marine Corps photo

for Sen. Dave Herbert.

He also held a job at a local Boy Scout camp. His volunteerism was one of the factors that led him to become a Marine and serve his country.

“I really love being a Marine,” said Cain. “I like teaching the new guys about the basics and watching them progress.”

Cain's most recent stint was with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (Special Operations Capable) as a member of the unit's battalion landing team. He fought in the battle of Al Nasiriyah as part of Task Force Tarawa in 2003.

“It was a pretty good fight there,” he said, “and I can't wait for the next.”

Now, Cain just returned from a training exercise where he received classes on the increasingly dangerous improvised explosive devices from Iraq and Afghanistan and other basic live-fire and maneuver training. He can't wait to get back to the fight though.

“I have aspirations to finish a successful tour in the Marine Corps someday and become a history teacher,” he said. “But for now, I just want to be in the fight.”
Marine
QUOTE(amy @ Jun 16 2005, 09:06 PM)
Exactly. How much of a clear and present danger was Saddam, really? If he had been, the intelligence would have led to action prior to 9/11. And yes Saddam played games with the inspectors-but apparently the fact that Bush punished Saddam for his recalitrance is not frightening N.Korea or Iran into submission. So again, I ask-why are we really in Iraq?
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Because at the time we invaded Iraq we believed Iraq had WMD. Hell, according to their debreifings Saddam's Generals even thought they had WMD to repel our invasion, Saddam lied to them to. Why, because he thought it made him look like a big man if he made everyone think he had WMD.
amy
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 16 2005, 11:16 PM)
Because at the time we invaded Iraq we believed Iraq had WMD.  Hell, according to their debreifings Saddam's Generals even thought they had WMD to repel our invasion, Saddam lied to them to.  Why, because he thought it made him look like a big man if he made everyone think he had WMD.
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Well Good Lord, Marine,
If everyone was convinced Saddam had WMD that he WAS GOING TO USE ON THE U.S., why did 9/11 have to happen for his removal? Terrorists have been around a while now, Saddam supposedly had WMD-why the Saddam hysteria post 9/11? If I had been president and I felt Saddam presented an imminent and clear danger to the U.S. I sure wouldn't have waited until a 9/11 incident to vigorously address the situation. If Saddam had been such an immediate and dire threat, the situation WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, head on before 9/11, IMHO.

You know Marine, I and many Americans don't appreciate being treated as fools by the POTUS. Whether or not one agrees with the removal of Saddam and with this war in general is really not the issue for me. What the American people and Congress were told by the POTUS and others to soften us up for an invasion of Iraq is the issue. Call them lies, exaggerations, hyperbole, whatever you will, but the POTUS tried to psychologically manipulate the American people,in a post 9/11 world, to accept the need for invading Iraq. I find Bush's attempt at manipulation to be demeaning, insulting and nowhere within the acceptable parameters of a president's relationship to the people he serves. Well, I guess you know where I stand on the issue of Bush and this war!
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piccadilly
QUOTE(heart @ Jun 16 2005, 03:53 PM)
If you like I can provide those "first hand accounts from letters, posts, and other supporters that do NOT come from any PR site, but would that change your mind?  Absolutely not!

Change my mind about what, Heart ? I have many opinions.
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You are saying that these people should sign up here Duck?  Well...I doubt they would be interested in hearing all of this crap after they served their country and were happy to do so.

What crap are you talking about, Heart ? The pile where we ask that our troops be brought back home now ? In my book, I call it support of americans in danger.
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  We are not even particularly important enough for people to "convince" since so many here seem to disregard the mulititude of similar reports from Iraq.

Are you sure these reports are from Iraq ? I ask because they certainly are not about Iraq. About some glorified corporation perhaps, but NOT about Iraq.
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Scraping the bottom to find every possible anti-military drudge is no more, nor less, that PR for those against the war.

Anti-military ? Where did you find any posts here about suppressing the military ?

Actually, it's the military best interests that we get PR against war. So what's this thing that pro-war propaganda helps the military ? Please do elaborate. I really insist.
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Your suggestion that someone's time would be better spent posting to Republican websites about this is problematic.

Not anybody's. Thanks to his dedication, Marine's ought to be plenty enough.
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  You see, DEMOCRATS are supporting our troops and their desire to accomplish their mission, their belief in their mission and the good they are doing in the world.  It is not a REPUBLICAN issue no matter how much you might want it to be.

Then why is it always up to the Democrats to expose when the military are screwing up or are being misused ? When will we start hearing the repubs say the military are screwing up ?
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I do not think that Marine or myself should have to go stand with the Republicans, or leave the title of "progressives, moderates, and democrats" to those who are against the war or who will not, or do not want to listen, to any possible good coming out of our troops service in Iraq.

Heart, I made my point absolutely clear in my last post and I know you can read. So try again, will you ? I am certainly not going to go through having to deny what I did not write.
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Furthermore, no one said that work had to please you, or anyone who posts in this forum did they?  Some people feel the need to do the good work as they see it, irrrespective of whether or not it is appreciated by others...it's a dharma type thing. 

This is getting slightly annoying. Go back, read what I wrote and please quote what you are talking about.
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other people would like to hear both sides and that balanced view is sorely missing here. I for one, do not want to present a picture to the world that DEMOCRATS are all against the war,

You're right, every herd has it's black sheep.
The mic is open, let's hear it. Please tell us the good reasons for which we invaded Iraq 2 years ago, why we killed thousands of Iraqis and why dozens of iraqis and US troops are killed every month since then.
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Those who want to be in Iraq deserve to have us hear their story too.

On which moral grounds ?
Do they even know about CGCS or what CGCS stands for ?
Do they know their story is posted on CGCS ?
Have they even read the article which reports their story and do they agree with the final edit ?
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Those who want to be in Iraq make up the largest segment of the soldiers there (in as much as anyone wants to be away from home and in a war zone).

How do you know ?
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There have been many wars, and many interventions, and soldiers do not pick which war they serve in, nor who their commander in chief is do they?

And your point is ?
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I'm sure there was some section of those who served in Kosovo that did not believe in their mission, and were unhappy to go, but in fairness to our military, they went anyway and did their jobs...the least we could do is support them as equally, across time, as they have the US.

You are confusing supporting the troops, supporting the military institution in it's own job of supporting the troops, and supporting the politicians who decide to commit troops.
Marine
U.S. Marine Corps
Lance Cpl. Lyndsey Curtis

Marine Ensures Troops Get Mail
By Sgt. Stephen D’Alessio
2nd Marine Division Combat Correspondent

MARINE CORPS BASE CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C., Dec. 7, 2004 — For most Americans, taking a trip to the mailbox is no big deal. But for Lance Cpl. Lyndsey Curtis of 2nd Marine Division, mail is mission essential.

Curtis is a 2nd Marine Division Headquarters Battalion mail clerk, responsible for care and delivery of mail for nearly 4,000 Marines. And this, 21-year-old native of Pittsburgh, Pa. takes her job with the kind of zeal only the most serious Marines could relate to. After all, she literally holds the key to the Marines’ only physical communication home.

Some might say that she accomplishes more before 8 a.m. than many people do all day long. An average day for her begins 6 a.m. when she meets up with her section for physical training. Her responsibility to her fitness is foremost – especially as she is about to embark for Iraq early next year for operations in the Global War on Terrorism.

Iraq is a long way from Natrona Heights where she attended Highlands High School, but distance isn’t everything, according to Curtis.

“Bringing mail to Marines and sailors in my unit makes home a little closer,” said Curtis.

Late morning brings her to the battalion headquarters where she and another Marine sort through hundreds of pieces of mail. From boxes to bags, letters to love notes -- Curtis does it all.

Each of nearly 300 parcels and pieces of mail are stamped and sorted every day.

“Some days it’s double and triple that amount,” said Curtis. “We bring two huge bags in per day. There’s so much of it; we dream about mail.”

She and her fellow mail clerk empty out their government van and trudge up to the headquarters each carrying a large yellow bag of mail over their shoulders. As they cross the street, cars stop for them and it’s another round of sorting.

“Some people call us Mrs. Claus,” said Curtis. “That’s because most of the time, other than bills, mail is like a present. Anybody in the service relies on mail, no matter what rank. Sometimes it’s the only thing that keeps them going.

“Without mail, what would you have?”

Curtis has nearly completed her four-year tour in the Corps and plans to get out. According to her, being a postal clerk has been a huge steppingstone.

“I plan on working for the post office when I get out,” said Curtis. “I love the job because at the end of the day you know you did something for someone else. The only thing I do is pray for less mail.


Lance Cpl. Lyndsey Curtis of 2nd Marine Division sorts the mail. She is slated to deploy in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Courtesy photo



“I love mail; I love my job, but I love my one-year-old boy Michael more than anything else in the world. The job can also be frustrating at times, but you always know you’re getting someone their letters, boxes and . . . bills.

“If someone is waiting for important mail, I try to go the extra mile and give a Marine a call when his or her mail comes in. Sometimes that backfires on me though because a Marine may be deployed and their mail is some kind of food. When I walk in, there are trails of ants and cockroaches the size of my feet waiting for me. I can’t throw it away though because it’s someone’s mail.”

Being a postal clerk also has some mysterious perks. Curtis and her partner know all of headquarters personnel on a first name basis. Only some of them don’t know it yet.

“People get freaked out sometimes when they come to pick up the mail and we just hand it to them without a word,” said Curtis. “Or if I see someone’s nametape on their uniform and I know their first name and middle initial while they’ve never seen me before. What they don’t realize is that I see their name every day on their mail.”

So when the Marines of the Division deploy to Iraq early next year, they can rest assured their mail will be safely stamped, sorted and sent out by Curtis. And they’ll know that rain, sleet, snow or sandstorm won’t stop her.
big sky brad
QUOTE(flydangler @ Jun 16 2005, 08:15 PM)
As to the assertions that there were no terrorists in Iraq while Saddam was in power, what about Abu Nidal? Also doubt that Salman Pak was a Girl Scout camp, eh?

One last thing. Why do people here tend to forget Saddam's proven direct support for Al Queda related groups actions that resulted in the deaths of Americans overseas like Abu Sayef's October 2002 terrorist bombing in Zamboanga or the Moro Islamic Lliberation Front's February 2003 terrorist bombing in Davao, and the fact Iraqi diplomats like Hassan Hussain were deported for their complicity in them? 'Tis a puzzlement!
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And there is no proof of any of these half-baked assertions!

These are the same, tired, worn out excuses you posted on the old JK forum last spring for the Iraq War.

Then you posted old, dated links to pro-war, right-wing articles to try and back up these lame assertions. And all of those links to all of those articles were refuted by geewood on the JK forum.
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