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shawneedaughter
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadshow/tips/indian_art.html



Ethical issues have been raised about Indian artifacts.


Collectors with an eye for beauty and history have long been lured by the power of Native American artifacts. People have brought examples of these to ANTIQUES ROADSHOW, including pre-historic objects once placed in ancient graves as burial offerings, such as Southwest Anasazi pots.

While Indian artifacts old and new are among the most sought-after collectibles on the market today, the controversial selling of funereal objects leads ANTIQUES ROADSHOW appraiser Bruce Shackelford, an independent San Antonio appraiser and consultant who deals with Indian art and culture, to call it "a dangerous field to collect in." That's because laws on the books—and ethical issues brought to the fore by Native American groups—have raised important legal and moral issues about collecting Native American objects. Here we've put together a simple primer on the laws governing Native American collecting to help new and seasoned collectors alike navigate legally and ethically in this field.

Illegal Goods

Pots are highly sought Native American artifacts.


A series of laws passed in 1906, 1966, 1979, and 1992 forbid the taking of Native American artifacts from federal land, including national forests, parks and Bureau of Land Management land, unless granted a permit to do so. Over the years, states have passed their own laws that restrict the taking of Native American objects from state land, echoing the federal laws. There are also laws that deal with pre-Columbian art and taking native works out of other countries.

Ed Wade is senior vice president at the Museum of Northern Arizona, a private institution in Flagstaff that has a repository of over 2 million Native American artifacts. Ed explains that these laws were enacted to restrict "pot hunting," the illegal excavation and sale of Native American objects. Under these laws, those who dig up artifacts from federal or state lands can be fined hundreds of thousands of dollars and can also be prosecuted and sent to jail.

If someone knowingly or even unknowingly purchases these illegally excavated objects, Ed says federal or state officials might seize them without giving any financial compensation.

Expensive Art Breeds Shady Sellers

These Anasazi bowls were excavated before laws were passed to protect them.


Bruce says that enforcement of these laws has been stepped up in recent years because the potential to make money from these archaeological treasures has expanded. "Pieces that have once sold for $50 now sell for thousands," Bruce says. "There's a large market for Indian artifacts in the decorator crowd. A lot of people who grew up with little Anasazi bowls on the coffee table now want bigger bowls to fill up large Southwest-style houses."

Ed notes that prices on Indian artifacts above $5,000 are commonplace, with some of the rarest objects selling routinely for half-a-million dollars. Unfortunately, jacked up demand for these beautiful objects has created an incentive for people to excavate them illegally.

Grave Robbing

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Pot hunters know that they are likely to find the best objects at Indian graves. "Pieces from the graves tend to be the more spectacular ones," Bruce says. "Native Americans buried their better pieces in graves, so they are often protected from use and tend to survive in a more complete state." At the Austin ANTIQUES ROADSHOW Bruce saw two Anasazi pots that were between 800 and 1,200 years old. One of the pots had what is called a "kill hole," made in a pot when it was buried in order to release the spirit from the pot. The existence of this hole in a pot indicates that it was ritually buried.

If artifacts such as the two Anasazi pots were to be dug up on federal lands today, under existing law, it would certainly be illegal to sell them. But even if bought prior to the 1906 passage of the first federal law restricting removal of Indian property from federal lands—as these were in the late 1800s—it should not be assumed that such artifacts are legally marketable today. In many cases they are not. Legal or illegal, moreover, buying and selling artifacts that were originally taken from burial sites also raises serious ethical issues.

"All cultures have taken part in grave robbing," Ed explains. "The question is, 'Is it ethical?' If we saw people digging in our family plots we'd probably be very upset." Ed adds that by digging up the burial grounds we're "damaging someone's last wish" and also interfering with the Native American expectation that they will "arrive at a better place."

How To Protect Yourself

Bruce recommends being careful to do business only with reputable dealers.


Whatever one decides is ethical, collectors need to protect themselves from the law. Bruce recommends you check the laws with your local museum, if it has a major Native American collection, or with reputable dealers, scholars and appraisers before you make a purchase. Ed suggests buyers always make sure to get a letter of certification that authenticates where an object came from and when it was found.

"That way, if someone lies, you can sue them," says Ed, who emphasizes that it is worth getting these for less expensive objects as well, because they will inevitably appreciate in value. "If your son inherits a piece and wants to sell it in 20 years," Ed explains. "A museum won't be able to take it if there's no documentation." Ed says that buying these objects blind is the equivalent of "buying a car or a house without a title."

Bruce emphasizes the importance of dealing with reputable dealers. He gives the lover of Native American artifacts clear advice. "If someone can't tell you where an object came from and how it was acquired, don't buy it," he says. Bruce also notes that there are plenty of beautiful—and safe—Native American materials on the market, such as clothing, or pottery made by contemporary Native American craftsmen.

If you're interested in more information about looting and the problems facing museums, collectors, scholars, and national or ethnic cultural heritage, see "Standing Up to the Smugglers," an article by Roger Atwood that appeared in the June 2000 edition of ARTnews, reprinted here with permission. There are also regular discussions on the subject in a number of popular and scholarly journals.



Editor's note: This article was updated on May 30, 2003, to clarify information in the "Grave Robbing" section about burial artifacts excavated from U.S. federal land prior to 1906.
tombstoned
[quote=shawneedaughter,Apr 30 2005, 09:10 AM]
They wonder WHY? doh.gif

THIS is disgusting. sad.gif
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadshow/tips/indian_art.html

Stealing from dead people is OK, Shawnee. The only thing you're allowed to be outraged about is when things (like votes, tax dollars, social security) are stolen from the living. sad.gif

In any other case, justified and justifiable outrage against the perpetrators of the crimes will be considered "bigotry"--unless, of course you decide to arm yourself with assault weapons, then you will be considered a "warrior" and your violent protest of wrongs will be considered "heroic".
shawneedaughter
Imagine if we went to Williamsburg and looked for some graves to rob



[quote=tombstoned,Apr 30 2005, 10:06 AM]
[quote=shawneedaughter,Apr 30 2005, 09:10 AM]
They wonder WHY? doh.gif

THIS is disgusting. sad.gif
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadshow/tips/indian_art.html

Stealing from dead people is OK, Shawnee. The only thing you're allowed to be outraged about is when things (like votes, tax dollars, social security) are stolen from the living. sad.gif

In any other case, justified and justifiable outrage against the perpetrators of the crimes will be considered "bigotry"--unless, of course you decide to arm yourself with assault weapons, then you will be considered a "warrior" and your violent protest of wrongs will be considered "heroic".
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tombstoned
QUOTE(shawneedaughter @ Apr 30 2005, 11:52 PM)
Imagine if we went to Williamsburg and looked for some graves to rob
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We'd be doing time--lots of it!
shawneedaughter
QUOTE(tombstoned @ May 1 2005, 12:04 AM)
We'd be doing time--lots of it!
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think they'll put us behind barbed wire? notme.gif
tombstoned
QUOTE(shawneedaughter @ May 1 2005, 12:25 PM)
think they'll put us behind barbed wire?  notme.gif
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Naw, but you can bet they'd have us working as barbers at Rykers if they could--we're supposed to be the scalping experts you know, but, at least according to this account and others I've heard, that was part of the alcohol, small pox, broken treaties deal and was introduced to North American from elsewhere.

http://home.comcast.net/~burokerl/scalping.htm

Scalping

Most people associate scalping with the natives of North America, but scalping is an ancient if grisly tradition. In the 5th century BC, Herodotus reported the Scythians, a nomadic people of Iranian origin, scalped their enemies as proof of a warrior's prowess (Before scalping became fashionable, warriors just hacked off the whole head).

Other races that practiced scalping were the Persians, Visigoths, Anglo-Saxons, and Francs. Scalping in North America was seen increasingly as European settlers colonized the continent and fought amongst themselves. It was practiced by many Indian tribes, though the natives also learned it from the Europeans, often adopting the practice as a means of revenge. Scalping saw its heyday during the colonial wars. French-Canadians paid extremely well for scalps, whether belonging to white or red men. Scalping in North America was seen in almost every Indian war until 1875.

Details:

People were scalped while wounded or dying. Frenchman, Captain Pierre Pouchot, described in his memoirs how the native American scalped his enemy: "As soon as the man is felled, they run up to him, thrust their knee in between his shoulder blades, seize a tuft of hair in one hand &, with their knife in the other, cut around the skin of the head & pull the whole piece away." The scalp was usually dried and preserved, and kept as a trophy.

There were people who survived scalping, with a greater chance of survival for those who had smaller portions of skin removed. Overall though, surviving a scalping was a hit or miss scenario, and even those who survived often died later of infections.
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