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so angry I could spit
from worshipping at the alter of mediocrity

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Two Ohio state representatives recently introduced bills that would restrict access to abortion in the state, including legislation that would ban all abortions, the AP/Ohio News Network reports. State Rep. Tom Brinkman ® on April 28 introduced a bill (HB 228) that would ban all abortions in the state (McCarthy, AP/Ohio News Network, 5/8). Under the measure, individuals who perform abortion procedures could face a felony charge with up to a 15-year prison sentence. The bill also would make it illegal to transport a woman to another state to receive an abortion, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports. The bill does not contain any exceptions for the health or life of a pregnant woman. Brinkman acknowledges that the bill would be ruled unconstitutional but said he hopes it might become the case that overturns Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision that invalidated state abortion bans. "We're just positioning the state for the future," he said. It is "unclear" if the bill will receive a hearing in the state House, according to the Plain Dealer (Theis, Cleveland Plain Dealer, 4/30). The bill, which has 17 co-sponsors, has not been assigned to a committee.


There ought to be a law against introducing a bill you know is unconstitional just to create a SCOTUS case.
Cloudy
Coming soon everywhere.
winston smith
QUOTE(so angry I could spit @ May 10 2005, 05:39 PM)
from worshipping at the alter of mediocrity
There ought to be a law against introducing a bill you know is unconstitional just to create a SCOTUS case.
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One problem... that law would be unconstitutional! dancing.gif
so angry I could spit
QUOTE(winston smith @ May 10 2005, 08:51 PM)
One problem... that law would be unconstitutional! dancing.gif
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They know that, it's why they're proposing it - they figure it would get them in front of SCOTUS to overturn Roe v Wade.
searchingforsanity
Sure let's go back in time to illegal abortions and self-inflicted ones. Don't these people have anything else to do?
Cloudy
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"Women's right to choose is at greater risk than it has ever been since the Supreme Court's landmark decision of Roe v. Wade in 1973.  Pro-choice victories of the past are under attack by the most activist anti-choice Administration of the post-Roe era and a largely anti-choice Congress. The President has placed anti-choice officials at the helm of important agencies, reinstated the global gag rule, and proposed restrictions on contraceptive funding and access.  He has also supported new laws, passed by an anti-choice Congress, defining legal "personhood" as beginning at the time of conception, barring certain safe and legal abortion procedures, and allowing for a sweeping right of refusal for all health care entities, which could dramatically undermine federal, state, and local laws that protect a woman's right to choose.  The Center is pursuing a multi-faceted strategy to preserve the full range of health services, unencumbered by religious refusals, in our Religious Restrictions Project.

Perhaps most grave is President Bush's declared intent to fill any Supreme Court vacancy with an avowedly anti-choice jurist.  Such a move would put Roe at serious risk. In 2000, the Court upheld the Roe decision by a narrow 5-4 margin. President Bush has stated that his model for future justices are Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, two of the most ardent opponents of abortion on the Court. In fact, many of President Bush’s nominees to the lower federal courts are anti-choice advocates. Thus, if President Bush is able to replace just one justice, which seems likely with Justice Rehnquist extremely ill, the result may be that Roe is overturned and the right to choose lost. "
http://www.nwlc.org/display.cfm?section=re...ral%20materials
so angry I could spit
I don't think replacement of Rehnquist with a conservative justice would turn the balance on Roe (I believe Rehnquist is anti-choice), it's the rumors about O'Connor (especially with the loons and threats against non-conservative judges) being replaced in the near future that would do damage.
amy
Has a female ever introduced a bill targetting abortions? dontknow.gif
wundermaus
Wives, Mothers, Sisters, Daughters: get out of O-HI-O !!!
And Don't Stop until you see "ARBEIT MACHT FREI" in your rear view mirror!
dee60
QUOTE(amy @ May 11 2005, 10:39 PM)
Has a female ever introduced a bill targetting abortions?  dontknow.gif
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Good question!! idea.gif Anyone know?
Got to be a bit of a smarta** here notme.gif
But really if these men ever went through childbirth..do you think they would fight so hard in taking birth control methods away?
amy
QUOTE(dee60 @ May 11 2005, 08:51 PM)
Good question!! idea.gif  Anyone know?
Got to be a bit of a smarta** here notme.gif
  But really if these men ever went through childbirth..do you think they would fight so hard in taking birth control methods away?
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Wouldn't it be more "gender specific" if these male legislators intoduced laws that would punish men for impregnating women "out of wedlock" and for failing to use condoms to prevent unwanted preganacies within the confines of wedlock? In other words tell men to "zip up, or shut up" about women's reproductive rights! idea.gif
wundermaus
QUOTE(amy @ May 11 2005, 06:04 PM)
Wouldn't it be more "gender specific" if these male legislators intoduced laws that would punish men for impregnating women "out of wedlock" and for failing to use condoms to prevent unwanted preganacies within the confines of wedlock? In other words tell men to "zip up, or shut up" about women's reproductive rights! idea.gif
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Ooooo I like that! 20 years Mandatory jail sentence for impregnating any woman that is not your wife. No Exceptions! With genetic testing now it would be a slam dunk for women to prosecute men.
amy
QUOTE(wundermaus @ May 11 2005, 09:08 PM)
Ooooo I like that! 20 years Mandatory jail sentence for impregnating any woman that is not your wife. No Exceptions! With genetic testing now it would be a slam dunk for women to prosecute men.
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I imagine the abortion rates would drop dramatically! Yep, society seems to so concerned about abortions and premarital sex - let the men pay the price for their "irresponsible" sexual activity. How about one strike you're out" legislation for the males: impregnate out of wedlock once and mandatory castration! That ought to take care of a lot of our "cultural problems! whistling.gif
heritage
Tom Brinkman, Jr. ®

http://www.house.state.oh.us/jsps/MemberDe...jsp?DISTRICT=34

email: district34@ohr.state.oh.us

Ohio Abortion Bill As Introduced H. B. No. 228

The online versions of legislation provided on this website are NOT official. The official version of bills are available from the LSC Bill Room located at the north end of the Ground Floor of the Statehouse. Enrolled bills are the final version passed by the Ohio General Assembly and presented to the Governor for signature. The official version of acts signed by the Governor are available from the Secretary of State's Office in the Borden Building, 180 East Broad St., Columbus.

Status of bill: http://lsc.state.oh.us/coderev/hou126.nsf/...28?OpenDocument

Introduced 4/28/05 (no other action yet)

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=126_HB_228

Co-sponsors: Representatives Brinkman, Hood, Buehrer, Bubp, Faber, Fessler, Gilb, Hoops, Kearns, Raussen, Reidelbach, Schaffer, Schneider, Seaver, Taylor, Uecker, Wagner, Widowfield

To amend sections 124.85, 149.43, 2151.421, 2305.11, 2307.46, 2307.52, 2307.53, 2317.56, 2505.02, 2901.01, 2903.09, 2919.12, 2919.123, 2919.13, 2919.14, 2919.24, 2950.03, 3701.341, 4112.01, 4731.22, 4731.91, and 5101.55 and to repeal sections 2151.85, 2505.073, 2919.121, 2919.122, 2919.151, 2919.16, 2919.17, and 2919.18 of the Revised Code to prohibit abortions in this state, to increase the penalties for the offenses of unlawful abortion, unlawful distribution of an abortion-inducing drug, and abortion trafficking, to enact the offense of facilitating an abortion, and to make conforming changes in related provisions.......

Section 4. Sections 1, 2, and 3 of this act shall take effect on October 29, 2005, or the earliest date permitted by law, whichever is later.
heritage
This may be why Brinkman wants the Christian right on his side:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/2005/04/oh02_open_seat.html

April 01, 2005
OH-02: Open Seat, Special Election 2005

Two Hamilton County Republicans - county Commissioner Pat DeWine and state Rep. Tom Brinkman - said Monday that they are running to replace U.S. Rep. Rob Portman.

DeWine and Brinkman are the first to commit to what's expected to be a crowded contest. Both men hustled to Pike County Monday night to introduce themselves to Republicans in the easternmost part of Portman's 2nd Congressional District, two hours east of Cincinnati. [...]

Other possible GOP candidates include former U.S. Rep. Bob McEwen, who splits his time between Hamilton County and Northern Virginia; former state Rep. Jean Schmidt of Clermont County; WLW talk-radio host Bill Cunningham; Cincinnati lawyer Bill Keating Jr.; and state Rep. Tom Raga of Warren County.

On the Democratic side, state Rep. Todd Book of Scioto County is thinking about running. State Rep. Tyrone Yates of Hamilton County says he would consider a run only if Book didn't.

Even though the election date has not been set, DeWine is kicking off his campaign today with a bus tour of the 2nd District. His father, U.S. Sen. Mike DeWine, will be among those aboard.

Brinkman said he decided to enter the race when county Commissioner Phil Heimlich, a close ally, opted to run for lieutenant governor instead of Congress. Heimlich is joining Attorney General Jim Petro in his run for governor in 2006.
heritage
Brinkman is also courting the gun owners:

http://www.ogrc.org/pages/555793/index.htm

Rep. Tom Brinkman, Jr. Set to Introduce Alaska-Style Right to Carry Bill in Ohio.

New Concealed Carry Legislation Will Repeal Anti-Gun Mandates in H.B. 12 Gun Law; Brinkman Bill Will Allow Law-Abiding Gun Owners to Opt-Out of Permit System. {this bill has also recently been introduced}

Here is another abortion type bill from Brinkman in 2001:

http://www.kaisernetwork.org/Daily_reports....cfm?DR_ID=6325

[Aug 10, 2001]
Ohio state Rep. Tom Brinkman ® is preparing to introduce legislation that would require women who seek to terminate their pregnancies using mifepristone to obtain the approval of a psychiatrist before receiving the drug, the AP/Cincinnati Enquirer reports. The bill, which will be introduced when the Legislature returns on Sept. 11, would "make it so difficult to obtain the pill that it would effectively prohibit its use," Brinkman said, adding, "If it becomes an effective ban, people aren't using [mifepristone] and babies aren't dying." Brinkman is working with lawyers to make sure the bill will "stand up under the U.S. and Ohio constitutions" and said nearly a third of the 99-member state House has signed on to co-sponsor the bill.

Elizabeth Cavendish, legal director for the National Abortion Rights Action League, called Brinkman's proposal "very condescending to women and women's decision-making," likening the bill to laws that mandate a 24-hour waiting period for abortions. However, Brinkman's bill "goes a step farther because it assumes the existence of post-abortion trauma syndrome that doesn't actually exist," she said, adding that "[m]edical literature" has shown that women who were depressed after undergoing an abortion were most likely depressed before the procedure.

Mark Lally, legal director for Right to Life of Ohio, declined to comment on Brinkman's proposal and a spokesperson for Gov. Bob Taft ®, an abortion-rights opponent, said that the governor "had not been briefed on the legislation and would need to research its constitutionality" before commenting. The bill, the "only one of its type," is one of 20 bills introduced in state legislatures nationwide that attempt to restrict access to mifepristone.

Cavendish said she does not foresee a "new wave" of restrictions on the drug, which induces abortion by blocking progesterone, a hormone necessary to maintain the uterine lining, because mifepristone is "already covered" by most abortion legislation. "Most state lawmakers are well aware that the public's support for women's right to choose is earliest in the pregnancy. If they attack [mifepristone] too strongly, the public will understand they are attacking women," she said (McCarthy, AP/Cincinnati Enquirer, 8/9).

[Now the pharmacists are refusing to sell this drug to women]
Cloudy
Ohhh Amy, I'm loving your ideas here. Wonder if we can get someone or group to draft som legislation along those lines, maybe some advocate organization.
Cloudy
Brinkmen: Regulate women, not guns.
heritage
Pat) DeWine, Brinkman To Run For Congress (Ohio 2nd District, Rob Portman's seat)
WLWT-TV, Cincinnati ^ | March 29, 2005

....Primaries could be held as early as May with a special election possible in August. Gov. Bob Taft will set the date once after Portman vacates his seat.

The 2nd District covers the east side of Hamilton County, southern Warren County, all of Clermont, Brown, Adams and Pike counties and eastern Scioto County.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1373110/posts
heritage
Taft Schedules Election For Portman's Seat Tue May 3, 5:28 PM ET

The special election to replace Rep. Rob Portman (news, bio, voting record) will be held Aug. 2, Gov. Bob Taft declared Tuesday.

The primary elections will be held June 14......

Whoever wins the Republican primary will be odds-on favorite to win the seat. Portman and his predecessor, Willis Gradison, held it for 31 years. No Democrat ever came close to beating Portman......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wlky/20050503/lo_w...01661&printer=1
amy
QUOTE(Cloudy @ May 11 2005, 10:02 PM)
Ohhh Amy, I'm loving your ideas here. Wonder if we can get someone or group to draft som legislation along those lines, maybe some advocate organization.
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Can you imagine the uproar if a female legislator drafted a bill along those lines-targetting men for irresponsible sexual reproduction? What is happening in Ohio is an example of why some women don't want ANY abortions legally abolished-they know all too well that give them an inch and they'll take a mile. I really believe our nation is in a period of cultural regression-it won't last forever, but it's going to be a bumpy ride for quite a while. We don't just need Dems in office-we need female Dems in office- for balance and sanity.
heritage
http://www.citybeat.com/2002-09-12/news.shtml
Vol 8, Issue 44 Sep 12-Sep 18, 2002

Some voters might not like what State Rep. Tom Brinkman Jr. stands for, but at least they can count on him to be consistent. .....

Brinkman, the one and only

Brinkman isn't afraid to go it alone, even when it irritates his own party. In 2000 he called Gov. Bob Taft, a fellow Republican, a "liar." Brinkman complained that Taft had changed his stance on concealed weapons.

Brinkman is determined about saving tax money. In 2000, he says, he thought he was being elected with a bunch of conservatives who would get the state budget under control. He found out he was wrong.

"There's not a huge crowd up there at this point, because the money was so fun to spend for 10 years," he says.

Last year the state legislature increased spending on "odds and ends" programs that added up to $30 million, according to Brinkman. He says he was the only House member who voted against it.

In another case, Brinkman says, environmental activists got together with the non-fossil fuel aggregate industry -- such as limestone quarries and gravel pits -- to find better ways of monitoring its environmental impact. He chose the unpopular route and voted against the proposal because it would have meant the state, rather than the industry, picking up the additional cost of inspections.

"The fee should have gone up -- not keep the fee the same and put the burden on the Ohio taxpayer," Brinkman says.

To balance the state budget, Taft wanted the authority to make cuts to libraries and local government funds and increase taxes. Brinkman voted against the bill.

"I'm not going to vote for any tax increases," he says. "I never have. I never will."

Brinkman, who is the father of six and owns a printing business, says he believes it will take a maverick to turn the state around.

"The governor is a decent guy," he says. "He really is. But he doesn't have what the state needs to lead us into the future. I wouldn't say we're all the way gone, but we're so far behind it's phenomenal.".....

Extremism and core principles

The Republican leadership in the Ohio House of Representatives is so aggravated with Brinkman that they've said anything with his name on it will get killed, according to Schaff. [his opponent in 2002]

"I can pick up the telephone and call my Republican friend and get something done," he says. "Tom Brinkman can't even pick up the telephone and call his fellow Republicans to get anything done."

Brinkman, 44, says that many times when he votes against something he doesn't think is right, other political figures tell him they wish they could do it, too. But, they tell him, you have to go along to get along.

"Screw that," Brinkman says. "I will not do that. That's why when the lobbyists and political insiders rank me, they rank me last, because I won't play ball with them. I see people crack all the time under the pressure."

Brinkman's positions aren't necessarily predictable. For example, he doesn't take a hard-line approach to drug crimes.
"We have prisons that are too full," he says.

Some people in prison who committed victimless crimes should be let out to save money, according to Brinkman. Taxpayer money would be saved by sending addicted people to drug intervention at a cost of about $4,000 per year rather than warehousing them in jail at the rate of about $22,000 a year, he says.

"People who are addicted, we need to help them, we don't need to punish them," he says.

When asked to compromis principles, Brinkman says his reponse is, "Screw that."

Brinkman even encouraged Cincinnati City Council to pass a resolution against the death penalty.

"I'm 100 percent pro-life," he says. .....

Brinkman introduced a bill to allow concealed weapons, requiring no training and no cards. That goes too far, according to Schaff.

"I actually support 'concealed carry,' but I don't support this extreme version that doesn't require any training, doesn't require any registration for guns," he says.

But for Brinkman, the issue is clear. He said he would support allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons -- just as the governor once did.

"People have to believe when you say you're going to do something," Brinkman says. "You have to do it. If you don't have some core principles, people can't trust you're going to do the right thing." ©
heritage
Ohio House Passes Bill Regulating RU-486

On June 25, 2003, the Ohio House of Representatives passed H.B. 126 by a vote of 79-20. H.B. 126, which is sponsored by Rep. Tom Brinkman (R, Cincinnati), would create state criminal penalties for providing RU-486 to another to induce an abortion without complying with the requirements of federal law governing the use of RU-486. The bill also requires any physician who provides RU-486 to report any serious complications to the state medical board.....

http://www.loraincountyrighttolife.org/ru486.htm
heritage
Brinkman is also anti-Union

Article published Saturday, September 21, 2002

RIGHT-TO-WORK BILL
Democrats overjoyed by volatile legislation
By JAMES DREW
BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU CHIEF

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...09210064&Ref=AR

COLUMBUS - It's the political equivalent of throwing gasoline on a fire.

A conservative Republican legislator has introduced a "right-to-work" bill. If adopted, no worker would be required to join a union or pay union dues as a condition of employment.

Although the bill sponsored by state Rep. Tom Brinkman (R., Cincinnati) has only six co-sponsors in the 99-member House - making it dead on arrival - his decision to introduce the measure six weeks before the Nov. 5 election had Democrats thanking their lucky stars.

"It is one of those defining issues to motivate labor in the final weeks of the campaign," said state Rep. Chris Redfern (D., Catawba Island).....

Yesterday, a day after Mr. Brinkman introduced the bill, Republicans were quick to distance themselves from the proposal.....
so angry I could spit
QUOTE(amy @ May 11 2005, 07:39 PM)
Has a female ever introduced a bill targetting abortions?  dontknow.gif
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I'm sure there are quite a few right wing women who have (the phyllis schafly types)
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