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Beamer
I guess this means that the San Diego Regional Airport Authority may have to find another favored spot for San Diego's new airport, which I don't think we need.


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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...-home-headlines

Pentagon Seeks Closure of Scores of Bases Nationwide
By Tony Perry
Times Staff Writer

7:15 AM PDT, May 13, 2005

The Los Angeles Air Force Base, the language facility at Monterey, and major Navy and Marine Corps bases in San Diego were spared in the Pentagon's list unveiled today of bases proposed for closure.

"California has done very well in this round" of closures, Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Alpine), the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee said today.

Defense Secy. Donald Rumsfeld was scheduled to unveil the complete list of 150 closures this morning.

California's biggest job loss appears to be the Naval Surface Center in Corona, which employs 900 workers, and is listed for closure.

Several smaller installations in California, however, were today slated for closure or realignment.

The weapons station at Seal Beach and a Naval support facility in Corona should be closed, and Beale Air Force Base near Yuba City will be realigned. Also, the Naval Base Ventura is slated for realignment, with a possible loss of 1600 jobs.

Military finance and accounting offices in Concord, San Bernardino, San Diego and Seaside would be closed. Also the Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Centers in Los Angeles and Encinio and the Onizuka Air Force Station.

Numerous California bases will receive additional personnel, including Edwards Air Force Base, Fort Hunter-Liggett, the Marine Corps Reserve Center in Pasadena, Naval Air Station in Lemoore, and Vandenburg Air Force Base.

An estimated 1600 personnel at the Naval Medical Center in San Diego's Balboa Park will be shifted to other facilities.

For months the acronym BRAC (pronounced "brack") has struck fear into officials in communities near military bases coast to coast.

Nowhere has that apprehension been higher than in California, which has more military facilities than any other state. The Golden State also led the nation in bases closed and jobs lost in four previous post-Cold War rounds of the Base Realignment and Closure process.

In an effort to save as many bases as possible, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in November formed the California Council on Base Support and Retention, whose co-chairman was longtime Washington insider Leon Panetta, a former member of Congress.

In the cutbacks of 1988, 1991, 1993 and 1995, local officials complained of a lack of support from Sacramento. The council was meant to provide a "united front" for the state.

California has 30 major bases and dozens of smaller installations, spread from the Sierra Army Depot in Lassen County to the massive Navy and Marine Corps installations in San Diego.

The state has nearly 200,000 military and civilian employees of the Department of Defense. Defense spending tops $40 billion a year in California.

For months, civic officials, politicians, and lobbyists have prowled the corridors of Washington to plead the case to save California's bases.

Boosters attempting to save the Los Angeles Air Force Base spent more than $1 million on consultants and lobbyists. In San Diego, the figure was $800,000.

"This is a significant development for national security and great news for California's economic health and well-being," said Redondo Beach Councilman John Parsons, co-chairman of a group that fought to convince the Pentagon to leave the Los Angeles Air Force Base untouched.

The base employs 4500 civilian and military workers and pumps $8 billion a year into the regional economy. Officials in Colorado had tried to convince the Pentagon to move the base to their state where the base's parent command is located.

Only one community, Concord, east of San Francisco, took the opposite approach: Advocating that its base, the semi-closed Concord Naval Weapons Station be closed entirely so that the property can be used for residential and commercial development and a greenbelt.

Although the Pentagon's list is meant to be only the beginning of the process, 85% of bases targeted by the Pentagon in the past have been closed

The nine-member Base Realignment and Closure commission plans hearings across the country on the Pentagon list.

Headed by former Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi, the commission has until Sept. 8 to forward a list to President Bush. Bush must either accept or reject the list in its entirety by Sept. 23.

If Bush accepts the list, the issue goes to Congress which must act within 45 legislative days. If Congress disagrees with Bush, both houses must enact a joint resolution of disapproval, if not the list becomes law.

If Bush rejects the commission's list, the commission can submit a revised list.

Previous cutbacks have emphasized cost savings. But for this round, issues of military value top the list of priorities being used by the Pentagon to develop its list.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said that he wants a leaner, faster military, although officials have sometimes found his comments hard to interpret.

"You know how the secretary loves a good surprise," said John Pike, director of globalsecurity.org, a think-tank devoted to assessing military trends.
Beamer
I'm not that fond of military spending, but Camp Pendleton to the north and Miramar Marine Air Station hold vast expanses of land that developers in San Diego would love to get their hands on. So, I prefer the Marines, thank you, to major new development and a new airport right in the middle of San Diego County, which would screw up the traffic here even more than it is already.
noonanda
QUOTE(beamer619 @ May 13 2005, 08:44 AM)
I'm not that fond of military spending, but Camp Pendleton to the north and Miramar Marine Air Station hold vast expanses of land that developers in San Diego would love to get their hands on.  So, I prefer the Marines, thank you, to major new development and a new airport right in the middle of San Diego County, which would screw up the traffic here even more than it is already.
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They have been talking about that for years. Camp Pendleton is also a Federal wildlife refuge (they have some big Buffalo on the base up in the hills), If they ever gave it to the developers that would all go away, as well as the economies of oceanside, san clemente and fallbrook would all take a major hit financially.
heritage
C-span 1 just finished with the military press conference. Rep. Duncan Hunter is now on.

Also can see video later at http://www.c-span.org


Lots of reserve operations are being closed.

40 percent of soldiers in Iraq are reserve or national guard --- what are they thinking?? I guess these soldiers will be fighting wars forever so they don't need a place to come back to.
heritage
A major operation in Pittsburgh (near airport) is on the list to close. Fort Bragg in NC will pick up the slack.

Republican Rep. Melissa Hart was on KDKA today saying she and other PA republicans will try to fight the closure. The radio talk personality asked if Bush will take into consideration that Santorum is up for reelection next year.

The airport area is already financially in trouble because of US Airways bankruptcy.

C-span.org site links to the "featured links" in center of page --NY Times page that has all the base closings.
heritage
http://www.c-span.org/pdf/bracbaselist.pdf

28 pages in PDF
heritage
http://www.defenselink.mil/brac/

C-span will re-air the press briefing at 8 PM tonight
heritage
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2005/20050503_864.html

BRAC 2005: Commission Begins Work on Next Round of Base Realignments, Closures
By John D. Banusiewicz
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, May 3, 2005 – The 2005 Base Realignmnent and Closure Commission began its work here today.

Commission Chairman Anthony J. Principi, former secretary of veterans affairs, administered the oath of office to the eight commissioners who will evaluate the Defense Department's recommendations for changes in U.S. force posture.

After evaluating DoD's recommendations, the independent BRAC Commission will submit its own list to the president for review and approval, then to Congress, which must accept or reject the list in its entirety.

"The Congress and the president look to this commission to provide an unbiased, independent assessment and clear 'eye of reality check' on DoD's proposals for restructuring the base infrastructure supporting our armed forces," Principi said.

Principi said the commission's work must reflect that while the United States devotes great resources to its defense, those resources are limited. "Every dollar consumed in redundant, unnecessary, obsolete, inappropriately designed or located infrastructure is a dollar not available to provide the training that might save a Marine's life, purchase the munitions to win a soldier's firefight, or fund the advances necessary to ensure continued dominance of the air or the seas." ......
heritage
The 2005 BRAC commissioners are:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2005/20050503_864.html

[up to 15 regional meetings will be held]

Former Nevada Rep. James H. Bilbray, who was a member of House committees on foreign affairs, armed services and intelligence. He served in the Army Reserve from 1955 to 1963.

Philip Coyle of California, a senior adviser to the Center for Defense Information. He has served at DoD as an assistant secretary of defense and as director of operational test and evaluation.

Retired Navy Adm. Harold W. Gehman Jr., who served more than 35 years on active duty, including duty as NATO's supreme allied commander, Atlantic, and as commander of U.S. Joint Forces Command.

Former Utah Rep. James V. Hansen, who served on the House Armed Services Committee. He served in the Navy from 1951 to 1955.

Retired Army Gen. James T. Hill, whose 36-year career culminated with duty as commander of U.S. Southern Command.

Retired Air Force Gen. Lloyd "Fig" Newton, who served in uniform for 34 years, culminating as commander of Air Education and Training Command.

Samuel Knox Skinner, who served as President George H.W. Bush's chief of staff and as secretary of transportation. He served in the Army Reserve from 1960 to 1968.

Retired Air Force Brig. Gen. Sue Ellen Turner of Texas, a member of the American Battle Monuments Commission. She served for 30 years, most recently as the director of nursing services in the Office of the Air Force Surgeon General.
mommadona
Well, NOW we see what Rummy's been up to lately....

How's about closing down the facilities.......in SOUTH AMERICA! That might be nice.

How's about closing down the WWII facilities in ALABAMA that are arcane and delapidated...(ohhh yeahhhhhhh - kinda RED area, huh.....never mind)

How's about.....FIRING RUMMY!!!! Take away his private airforce an his SQUASHBALL COURTS....

You realize this was his 'specialty in "private life" - going in, cutting the flesh and bone out of a company, wiping out jobs (they just cost MONEY...YA KNOW) and then leaving with a golden bundle of mooooooolaaaaaaa.........$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Yeah, whatta PATRIOT. Yeah.....
heritage
33 Major U.S. Bases Would Close Under Plan

Updated 11:33 AM ET May 13, 2005

http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pr...513_779&src=abc

The Pentagon proposed Friday shutting about 180 military installations from Maine to Hawaii including 33 major bases, triggering the first round of base closures in a decade and an intense struggle by communities to save their facilities.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld also recommended a list of scores of other domestic installations including 29 major bases that will remain open but with thousands fewer troops. Dozens of others will gain troops from other domestic or foreign bases.

Overall, he has said his plan would save $48.8 billion over 20 years while making the military more mobile and better suited for the global effort against terrorism.

Rumsfeld's proposal calls for a massive shift of U.S. forces that would result in a net loss of 29,005 military and civilian jobs at domestic installations. Overall, he proposes pulling 218,570 military and civilian positions out of some U.S. bases while adding 189,565 positions to others, according to documents obtained by The AP.

The closures and downsizings would occur over six years starting in 2006......
heritage
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pr...513_779&src=abc

One major closure Rumsfeld seeks is Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota, home to 29 B-1B bombers, half the nation's fleet of the aircraft, and the state's second largest employer.

Republican freshman Sen. John Thune on Friday called the Pentagon "flat wrong" about Ellsworth, and he vowed to help lead the fight in the Senate to delay the entire round of closures. "We will continue to keep Ellsworth open," Thune said.

Rumsfeld also recommended closing the Naval Station in Pascagoula, Miss., which barely survived previous base closure rounds. The decision was a blow to Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., who had fought the 1995 round of closures. At stake are 844 military jobs and 112 civilian jobs.

New England took a major hit, and Connecticut suffered the biggest loss in terms of jobs with the proposed closure of the Submarine Base in New London, Conn. Shuttering the installation would result in the loss of 7,096 military jobs and 952 civilian jobs.

Another facility that barely made it through the previous rounds but showed up on the latest hit list was Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Maine, whose shutdown would affect 201 military jobs and 4,032 civilian jobs.

President Bush's home state wasn't immune from the chopping block. Texas is slated to lose 15 facilities. In addition to Naval Station Ingleside, the Red River Army Depot and several Reserve and Guard installations are on the hit list.

New Jersey's Fort Monmouth is also slated for closure, triggering an angered Democratic Rep. Rush Holt to vow to "Fight like hell to change it. I'm not about to let the Pentagon's error put the fort and the soldiers it serves in harm's way."

Pennsylvania would lose 13 facilities, including the Naval Air Station at Willow Grove, while Alabama and California the state hit hardest in the previous four rounds of closures are to see 11 installations apiece shuttered, mostly affecting Reserve and Guard units and Defense Department accounting offices. New York is to lose nine.

Base closings represent a high-stakes political fight, because they affect jobs in congressional districts.

When a U.S. military installation shuts down, its officers and their families are uprooted and relocated to facilities elsewhere, leaving holes in customer bases of local businesses.

"Affected communities will be offered support and assistance through the Office of Economic Adjustment following the completion of the process," Michael Wynne, the Pentagon's technology chief said at a briefing on the recommendations.

Nevertheless, targeted communities, with their well-being on the line, are expected to harness the efforts of lawmakers, local civic officials and hired lobbyists, as well as base commanders themselves, to try to convince the commission to keep their facilities up and running.
mommadona
QUOTE(heritage @ May 13 2005, 08:59 AM)
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pr...513_779&src=abc

One major closure Rumsfeld seeks is Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota, home to 29 B-1B bombers, half the nation's fleet of the aircraft, and the state's second largest employer.

Republican freshman Sen. John Thune on Friday called the Pentagon "flat wrong" about Ellsworth, and he vowed to help lead the fight in the Senate to delay the entire round of closures. "We will continue to keep Ellsworth open," Thune said.

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BOY! I'll betcha Daschle is sittin' in his livingroom, listening to "TOO BAD" Thune stammerin' away!!!!!

WATCH WHATCHA WISH FOR - YA JUST MIGHT GET IT!!!! NOW.....how do all those "Good Republicans" who VOTED for this fool feel as they're loading up their goods just like the folks in GRAPES OF WRATH....moving families away to unknown futures onna WING and a PRAYER......

roflmbo.gif roflmbo.gif notme.gif whistling.gif roflmbo.gif haha.gif
heritage
N.M., S.D. Towns Fight Base Closure Plans

Updated 11:20 AM ET May 13, 2005
By The Associated Press

(AP) - Lawmakers and residents in towns with military bases targeted for closure promised Friday to fight to get off the list, saying their communities would be crippled and national security would be damaged. "The battle starts today," one mayor said. ......

http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pr...8a2cblo0&src=ap
heritage
Plan Would Close Venerable Army Hospital

Updated 11:56 AM ET May 13, 2005
By ROBERT BURNS

http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pr...8a2cs9g1&src=ap

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Pentagon wants to close the Army's century-old hospital at Walter Reed Medical Center, the world-renowned facility in the nation's capital that has treated presidents and foreign leaders as well as soldiers and veterans. ....Under the plan, the shuttering of Walter Reed would involve moving some of its staff and services to an expanded health care facility on the campus of the National Naval Medical Center in nearby Bethesda, Md. The new facility would retain the Walter Reed name, officials said.....
heritage
Air Force, Army bases in region targeted for closing
Friday, May 13, 2005
By Mark Belko, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05133/504173.stm

Western Pennsylvania would lose two military facilities and a third would be downsized under a base reduction plan unveiled today by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

The Air Force's 911th Tactical Airlift Group base near Pittsburgh International Airport in Moon and operations at the Army's Chares E. Kelly Support Facility in Collier are proposed for closing.

The closings will not become official until a review is completed and Congress votes.

The 911th closing would eliminate 44 military jobs and 278 civilian jobs. The Kelly facility closing would eliminate 174 military jobs and 136 civilian jobs.

The base closing commission is also recommending realignment of the Army's 99th Regional Readiness Command in Moon. Although it would not be closed, the Reserve command would lose 119 military and 101 civilian jobs.

At a press conference this morning, U.S. Reps Tim Murphy and Melissa Hart expressed surprise and dismay at the depths of the local cuts and vowed to appeal to the commission during the review process this summer.

Final recommendations will not be made to President Bush until September, and Congress may not get the proposal until December, they said.

Murphy said the announcement was "not welcome news for a region already hit hard," including by massive US Airways layoffs. He said he "would try to show what I think is a mistake, not only for the military but for the region."

Hart said she was surprised by the closings, given the support local bases provided for operations in Afghanistan, Iraq elsewhere.

"This is not a final decision. This is simply a decision out of the Department of Defense," she said.
Magmak1
Closing the Portsmouth Naval Base does not come as a surprise; they've been talking about doing this for a while. But closing Groton too?
cutecat
Bush administration is known to use power to force voting the presidents way.
First report was defense was requesting small amount closings. Closing of bases is the largest ever.
Is the GOP and Bush administration going to use the base closings to get Senators and Congress to vote the way Bush wants them too on Bolton and Judicial nominees.
Frenchy
QUOTE(Magmak1 @ May 13 2005, 01:24 PM)
Closing the Portsmouth Naval Base does not come as a surprise; they've been talking about doing this for a while.  But closing Groton too?
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Groton has been on the chopping block since 89.
Beamer
QUOTE(mommadona @ May 13 2005, 08:06 AM)
BOY! I'll betcha Daschle is sittin' in his livingroom, listening to "TOO BAD" Thune stammerin' away!!!!!

WATCH WHATCHA WISH FOR - YA JUST MIGHT GET IT!!!!  NOW.....how do all those "Good Republicans" who VOTED for this fool feel as they're loading up their goods just like the folks in GRAPES OF WRATH....moving families away to unknown futures onna WING and a PRAYER......

roflmbo.gif  roflmbo.gif  notme.gif  whistling.gif  roflmbo.gif  haha.gif
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I know. That's too funny about Thune!
ap215
The DLC and their take on the base closings.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/5/13/175534/526
Beamer
QUOTE(ap215 @ May 13 2005, 06:07 PM)
The DLC and their take on the base closings.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/5/13/175534/526
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I don't get it.
grammydidi
I read somewhere that Rummy's closings are supposed to save $48 Billion over 20 years..............

That's really astounding following the vote for an additional $80+ Billion more for Bush's war, JUST FOR THIS YEAR!!!!

What a bunch of hypocrites! Saving money, my ___ !!!
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