..We have about a month to put a stop to the electoral college vote and uncover the fraud that was perpertrated in Ohio (and, possibly) other states, too)

I am not privvy to the actual legalities, and laws, but THIS IS WHAT MUST BE DONE....NOW.

There have been way too many irregularities, already, uncovered in the Ohio voting. Some small, others not so small.

4,000 votes for Bush that should have gone to Kerry in one town, a difference of 93,000 votes in another area of the state when comparing registered voters to the number of actual votes cast, and more and more being exposed every day.

There are just way too many possible suggestions of , either, fraud, or error..and that being the case...with so much at stake , not just for the United States, but the entire world....

A CALL MUST BE MADE TO MAKE THE OHIO ELECTION RESULTS NULL AND VOID, AND A NEW ELECTION CALLED FOR TO DETERMINE WHO, HONESTLY, WON THE STATE, KERRY OR BUSH. THIS MUST BE DONE IMMEDIATELY.....THE CALL FOR A NEW VOTE IN OHIO......

There are way too many instances being exposed to allow the vote, as it now stands, to be considered "official"....and somewhere, some groups need to get off of the snide and begin the calls for making the tally NULL AND VOID and DEMAND a new ballot be printed and a new election be held, IN OHIO.

I am sure that some of you who read this post will think that I am some sort of wacky boob....
and while that may be true.....I believe that what I have just suggested needs to be done....we can not continue to sit on our asses and let this evil bunch of bastards steal, yet, another election and for that frickin idiot in the White House to continue to press his radical and asinine agenda on the world....

Send this suggestion, of mine, to anyone, and everyone, including Soros , with all his bucks, and get this rolling....time is of the essence..and action needs to be taken NOW.

The last I heard, thanks to the third party candidates, it is very likely to happen. They've raised about half the money. You'd think, under the circumstances, one of the Democratic organizations would fork over the cash to get the ball rolling. This has to be done ASAP.

The Green/Libertarian joint effort to recount Ohio needs $150,000 by Monday to do the whole state. They're about halfway there. http://www.votecobb.org

I keep asking this question, no one seems to know the answer. Where is the money we donated to the Dems BEFORE the election for this recount possibility?
I gave 20 bucks, not much, but I felt like it would be needed. Why isn't that being turned over to help with the Ohio vote recount???

Isn't it ridiculous that an effort to get an accurate vote count has to be privately funded? Isn't a government's legitimacy something that concerns all the people and is worthy of being paid for by tax money? The conventions are partially funded by taxpayer money because those are "educational", but a recount is not.

Well, NEM, there's that fighting spirit!

There's a lot we can do.

Donate to get the recount.

Don't let up on the media. Pick one or ten or whatever number of media sources you chose and e-mail telling them you want them to investigate the voting irregularities. That we absolutely have to have a paper trail voting system we can trust.

Question: Is it or is it not unconstitutional to have another election?

Its a constitutional right. North Carolina is having a re-vote.

This is true but unforetuneately it doesn't include the presidential election. Only the local races will get a re-vote.

Cobb and Badnarik are around 30,000 short of reaching 150,000.

So, if it is unconstitutional, what is the remedy if a true outcome cannot be determined with a recount? And if Ohio and Fla results are thrown out, and we win Colorado and NM? I guess I will have to go back to msnbc to play with the electoral vote screen to see totals, but, what IF Kerry has more electoral votes than W but neither has enough? I know what the answer was if it were a 269 to 269 tie, but what if we have the most but not enough?

That question would lie on the electoral college: Suppose the entire election was a unconstitutional lie, stripping millions of their civil rights. There would be a called for re-election or a fight in the house of represenatives. If there is enough democrats/other candidates in the house and dissenting republicans, then Bush would not be president. If there are not, than he obviously would be.

Before you criticize Kerry, read this:

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http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/for...953&#entry31953

Ummmmm, who was criticizing Kerry? Did I miss something?

Oh the possibilities ..... if Ohio and Florida are thrown out.....

This is strange......before the election I had a dream. We won without Ohio and Florida. Too strange. I believe I posted about this on the Kerry forum when it happened. What if? Hmmmmmm maybe I am wearing a tin foil hat?

You are among friends, here, Nem, wacky boob or not.

Who knows......the audits are going to take a while..

Where is Soros? Where are all these absurdly rich Hollywood movie stars who supported Kerry? Oprah alone is worth over a billion.

What if criminal acts are found and traced to Rove, Bush ??

Where are all these Anti-Bush celebs?

Absolutely not. Those states can still be won if the true votes are accurately counted.

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/st-ohio-statutes.html

Ohio recount statutes referenced here - looks like 5 days after declaration.

Good god this election hacking is obvious!

'On 11/03/04 FL Dept of State reported -

3,812,485 / Bush 52.1%
3,444,201 / Kerry 47.1%


On 11/10/04 FL Dept of State with 100% of all counties reporting -

3,956,346 / Bush 52.1%
3,575,056 / Kerry 47.1%


On 11/14/04 FL Dept of State with 100% of all counties is reporting -

3,964,522 / Bush 52.1%
3,583,544 / Kerry 47.1%


So, how can you claim that with 100% of all counties reporting you have a total of 7,531,402 votes for Bush and Kerry combined. Then on 11/14/04 you suddenly have a total of 7,548,066 votes for Bush and Kerry combined. All of a sudden 16,644 more votes have turned up and the numbers changed in almost every county but not all of them.

Funny how the total percentage for each candidate hasn't changed at all either, not even by one point in either direction? Sorry, I don't buy it at all.'

http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/DetailRpt.As...GRP=&DATAMODE=E

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu..._id=50961&page=

What in the hell were they thinking.....The percentages never altered.......At all!!!!! After more than 500,000 votes came in.....Somebody's been playing with numbers..

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