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70sliberalism
Today the Al Franken show had a discussion about the latest talking point bot-phrase of the rabid right-wing reactionaries......"criminalization of politics". The talking heads and guest commentators of FOX have a new phrase.....soon to be part of the dialogue of, all cable all night and day...... They have come out waving the "victimhood" flag for the Necon criminals with cries of "the criminalization of politics"......please!

I have one thought on this: Going after Delay and Rove is not criminalizing politics....Newt's contract on America started the criminalization of politics and now politics is full of criminals...to wit...Delay, Rove, Scooter Libby.....


http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/18/fox-criminalization/


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/17/31244/628

here they are at work:
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In today's polarized climate, both parties have contributed to the criminalization of politics. But Democrats, losers in both elections and the world of ideas, have turned to using the criminal process over the last two decades. That means depicting DeLay not as a mere reactionary politician but the cause of national corruption. This resolve was furthered by the reckless DA in Texas and a retreat by House Republicans.
- http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publi..._27261014.shtml
Indianhead
I like the phrase...sounds like
an admission that the neo-cons criminalized politics.
They didn't remember that their snappy slogans must
be easily understood. They out smarted themselves.

Remember George you were elected by
the morons of this country.
You are too small to drive this vehicle.

rox63
The right is attributing all of this to a 'vast left-wing conspiracy'. Hey BushCo, Karma sure is a b**ch, isn't she? haha.gif tongue.gif

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commen...,1393843.column

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Suddenly, it's a vast left-wing conspiracy

Jonathan Chait
October 21, 2005

I'VE BEEN waiting for quite a while now for conservatives to come up with a theory to explain why large chunks of the Republican Party are, or soon will be, under indictment. The argument I've been anticipating has finally arrived, in the form of a long lead editorial in the latest edition of the influential conservative magazine the Weekly Standard.

The editorial, written by Standard Editor William Kristol and longtime conservative activist Jeffrey Bell, begins by acknowledging the uncomfortable fact that "the most prominent promoters of the conservative agenda of the Bush administration" are facing legal troubles of one kind or another. It cites the legal imbroglios of Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Tom DeLay and Bill Frist. It neglects to mention David Safavian, the chief of staff at the General Services Administration in the Bush administration; conservative activist/superlobbyists Jack Abramoff and Michael Scanlon; and Reps. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Rancho Santa Fe) and Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio), and perhaps some others I'm forgetting.

Anyway, one conclusion you could draw from all these examples is that the Republican Party has gotten a bit corrupt. The Standard does not, however, draw this conclusion. Another possibility is that it's all just a coincidence. The Standard doesn't conclude that, either. Instead, the editorial declares, "a comprehensive strategy of criminalization had been implemented to inflict defeat on conservatives who seek to govern as conservatives."

The wording here is instructive. The authors have obviously chosen to use the passive voice to avoid having to spell out just who has implemented this comprehensive strategy of criminalization. That's because answering that question would expose just how silly their theory is.

DeLay is being pursued by Texas Dist. Atty. Ronnie Earle. Frist is being pursued by the Securities and Exchange Commission. Rove and Libby are in trouble with Republican prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. So apparently disparate elements of the criminal justice system are working in concert to undermine conservatives. That sure is a comprehensive strategy.

When I first read this editorial, the argument sounded vaguely familiar. And then it hit me. An old "Simpsons" episode featured a Rush Limbaugh-like talk show host bemoaning the conviction of attempted murderer and Republican loyalist Sideshow Bob. "My friends, isn't this just typical? Another intelligent conservative here, railroaded by our liberal justice system," he tells his listeners in disgust.

When it appeared on "The Simpsons," this line of reasoning was self-evident parody. Now it's being put forward in complete earnestness by one of the leading intellectual journals of the right.

More comic still is the Standard's effort to explain away the underlying alleged offenses. Rove and Libby could be indicted for allegedly leaking the name of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame. But the editorial complains, "Is the identity of Valerie Plame the most consequential leak of the last four years? … Do no employees of the Central Intelligence Agency (almost universally anti-Bush and anti-conservative) ever leak anything?"

To answer the questions: No, the Plame leak is not the most consequential one, and yes, CIA staffers leak information. The point is that the Plame leak, unlike most Washington leaking, was illegal. Allegedly.

The principle here is a phrase the Standard and other conservatives used endlessly during the Clinton administration: "rule of law." Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky wasn't consequential, either. But the Standard insisted that didn't matter. The rule of law, it heatedly insisted, required that Clinton be impeached, however inconsequential the underlying offense.

Now, as a criminal-coddling liberal, I happen to believe that the rule of law ought to allow for some consideration of proportionality. (For that matter, I think that Frist — who indicated a desire to sell his family stock before the company learned its value would drop — may well be innocent of insider trading.) So I'm not certain that the whole top echelon of the GOP should be led off to prison merely because they broke a law. Allegedly.

But what about the right? I don't want to say they've abandoned their principles en masse when they've become inconvenient. I'll just suggest that a comprehensive strategy of principle abandonment has been implemented.
USA#1
Hannity was using it yesterday --- It's in their lexicon for sure.

I guess that's why they call them "Ditto Heads"

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Eugeenie
My fondest wish is that one day all their chubby little fists will be wrapped around the iron bars surrounding him as they implore their cellmates to join them in their latest talking point as they gasp in unison, "Look -- they've criminalized crime!"
Salute_Liberty
First-class historical examples of the criminalization of politics can all be found in the following link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...?referrer=email

Stay in denial and you'd only be subscribing to the Criminal Conspiracy! roflmao.gif
Indianhead
They'd better get ready, because as this top-heavy
system breaks down they are gonna find so many
"criminals" after their scalps they are gonna have to
keep screaming snappy phrases all the way to the
gallows. They are setting up the next American Revolution.
70sliberalism
QUOTE(rox63 @ Oct 21 2005, 09:29 AM)
The right is attributing all of this to a 'vast left-wing conspiracy'. Hey BushCo, Karma sure is a b**ch, isn't she?   haha.gif  tongue.gif

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commen...,1393843.column
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rox, don't tell evryone just yet, but in actuality I am part of a left wing conspiracy...the open conspiracy for transparency in government policy and actions. :hexe:
MushroomCloud
"Criminalization of politics" isn't going to work as a Republican catch-phrase, I think. It's too easy to throw it right back at them, just like during the campaign when Bush tried to say "we're turning the corner" and Kerry said "and it's a U-turn." That was the last anyone heard about turning any corner from Bush until he was reselected.

Now how 'bout "culture of corruption." That's one I'm hearing more and more. Has a nice ring to it, yes?

The Bush Regime's Culture of Corruption. I like it. Republicans: A culture of corruption. I like that even more.
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