Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being interviewed is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff.
Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole ® and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to get this information out to people. READ THE REST OF THE STORY AND YOU DECIDE!!! GO TO http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm

Considering everything up to today. I would have to say it is possible and probable

I have from day 1 = 911 believed Bushinc ordered this, facilitated it in some way, far more than just an oversight on the intel.

Reasons: I will never forget as I watched the tv that day, after first plane hit, I said "where's the military birds in the air to intercept"...more especially so when enough time passed and 2nd plane hit. I was a kid when my father was stationed at SAC in Omaha, but know enough to know that the absence of miitary defense is a good indicator of something else going on.

I will never forget look on GW's face that day, didn't need Farenheit 911 to remind me, it registered in me the day of 911

The buildings came down in implosion style, not realistic, in my mind of how it would have gone down if it was the jet fuel only.

Not unlike the JFK assassination, there are things that register at gut level that no amount of spin explanations can explain away.

Nothing scientific in what I'm posting, just my gut feelings. Will be curious to see what others have to say.

Welp...damn if I know...

I know one thing for sure... God knows, and if he did have something even in the slightest to do with this, he'll get what he deserves one day. Karma is soooo cool especially when you know you're okay... you just sit back and watch.. better than the movies, IMO.

Lets hope it is real soon and not later, like tomorrow!

I can't say whether Bush actually ordered it, but I do believe Cheney was deeply involved in the planning and execution of the attacks.

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""CROSSING THE RUBICON: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil"" -- New Society Publishers
by Michael C. Ruppert is the book you should be reading !
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/...y_rubicon.shtml

In fact, he makes the charge directly against Cheney (which may explain his 'cold' yesterday !).

"Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
Concerns Raised by the Vatican"
by WAYNE MADSEN

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen04222003.html

contains the following:

""...Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs, and his constant references to "evil doers," in the eyes of many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations - the anti-Christ. People close to the Pope claim that amid these concerns, the Pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations. John Paul II has always believed the world was on the precipice of the final confrontation between Good and Evil as foretold in the New Testament. Before he became Pope, Karol Cardinal Wojtyla said, "We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of the American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel." The Pope, who grew up facing the evils of Hitler and Stalin, knows evil when he sees it. Although we can all endlessly argue over the Pope's effectiveness in curtailing abuses within his Church, his accomplishments external to Catholicism are impressive.

According to journalists close to the Vatican, the Pope and his closest advisers are also concerned that the ultimate acts of evil - the September 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon - were known in advance by senior Bush administration officials. By permitting the attacks to take their course, there is a perception within the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy that a coup d'etat was implemented, one that gave Bush and his leadership near-dictatorial powers to carry out their agenda.""

I absolutely believe that our own government is responsible for 911! What a perfect opportunity for them to take over while making it seem that it is in our best interest to "temporarily" erase our freedoms and rights.
I think this bunch will stop at absolutely nothing to attain their goals. The fact that now they feel they've won a mandate in the election means that they will no longer even pretend to use reins on their agenda.
I can even believe that Bush is the Anti-Christ! I see nothing but pure evil there.
He is obviously using the cloak of religion to fool the blind into believing him.
I am not some wild-eyed lunatic....I'm a senior citizen who is scared witless by what I see happening to our country...with the apparent enthusiastic approval of the everage voter who is unable to think straight.

I remember absolutely flipping in my office when I saw the footage of Bush being told what had happenned. I swear I saw a small smile and insisted that he knew, in that instant, that this was the best thing that could possibly happen for his presidency. This being said, I can not believe he/his administration would have intentionally planned this or intentionally allowed it to occur. The man is arrogant and overbearing, but is he really a soul-less sociopath? If so, he's the best damned actor ever!

Nothing would surprise me with these people. I remember reading, it was either in Phillips' American Dynasty or Dean's Worse than Watergate, that one of the Bush brothers - Marvin or Neil -was responsible for the security of the Twin Towers. There was an implication of complicity there. It seemed like a wild theory, but look at what has happened since then.

These are power-hungry evil people with no conscience whatsoever. The only thing that motivates them - AND IT'S NOT RELIGION - is money. I hope to god that all of this catches up with them. There has to be retribution in this life. Or like someone said above, karma.

I think he's a hollow shell - a patsy. Cheney is the soul-less sociopath.

Cheney is also Bush's insurance against impeachment.

Think about it - no matter WHAT we eventually have on Bush, we MUST have equally as much on Cheney, and bring those proceedings FIRST. It's the ultimate poison pill!

And if we DID get Cheney out, Bush gets to appoint another vp - we'd have to impeach both simultaneously, and then we'd get Dennis Hastert!

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I am pretty sure at least some high up people knew about it and adjusted their stocks accordingly. If I were to guess what Bush was thinking, I would say he believed there needed to be an event to bring the non-Christians to their knees.

I couldn't agree more on the proposition that GWB may very well be the anti-Christ, and thus capable of any kind of horror imaginable. Apparently the Skull and Bones society uses the terms Gog and Magog in their naming of new initiates, and George Bush qualified for the name Magog by describing the most sexual encounters of any new initiate the year he joined. Any Biblical scholar can tell you that Magog is a term related to Revelation and the end of time. In addition, translating the Roman alphabet letters for George Bush into the Hebrew, and then adding the numeric values of the Hebrew letters, leads to a total numeric value of 666 for Bush's name. Bush is the son of an earthly ruler (rather than a Heavenly one), his power derives from the Middle East (oil), he came to power in the year that Nostradamus predicted the Anti- Christ would rise , he came to power by illigitimate means, and he's used his Presidency to solidify the most extreme control over the civil rights of American citizens that has ever occurred in the history of this country. And, he came to power after the creation of the nation of Israel (a must in all predictions of Revelations), he is the first world ruler since the creation of that country to have the absolute ability, through our military arsenal, to control the entire planet. I really don't know what other evidence is needed, especially when added to the fact that he's done nothing positive for mankind since he entered the white House. He's been totally anti environment (God's creation), his policies are intended to keep the poor poor, the sick without medical care, and the world in a constant state of warfare.
That he could plan 911 is no surprise to me- I've suspected it all along. This guy is a monster, and the world will be better off when Americans figure that out, though I'm beginning to doubt they ever will.

I read this interview, and I felt a chill going down my spine. I've told other
e-mail pals about this article; I felt it was worth sharing. I encourage other
forum members to circulate this article to others that they know.

Oh my G-d, I'm sitting here waxing poetic in memory of the days when a Dole presidency was my biggest fear

Why all the stonewalling if they didn't have anything to hide. Think about it.

I don't know if Bush ordered it but here is something that sort of fits in. That OBL tape just before the election might have been saying something like: " You are responsible for your own security. If you elect Kerry and he comes after me, I will attack you. Keep Bush and we will both be secure." Bush has not been aggressive in going after Bin Laden and hence, the choice may be relative security from attacks now in exchange for a really bigger one later on - -a little like pay me now or pay me later. This scenario Moore pointed out with the Bush family connection to the Saudi's and Bin Ladens is fascinatng. It could make for an interesting movie.

Anyway, I think the OBL tape threw the election to Bush since it got people thinking of where they were more secure. And that is what Bin Laden wanted.

Seemed Rovian, Hail Mary to me, just like the Dan Rather tape (which when shown fake, absolved Bush of content).

And if we DID get Cheney out, Bush gets to appoint another vp - we'd have to impeach both simultaneously, and then we'd get Dennis Hastert!

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...and Vice President Rice (and I don't mean Jerry).

Osama bin Laden was by far the most predicted October Surprise. They appear to have outfoxed us with the tape rather than the often predicted capture.

They are guilty, but the they is what I haven't concluded. There is soooo much information available that is not so much incriminating as it is complex and inter-connected. The whole thing with the euro, the Saudi's, the necessity of 9-11 to enable Iraq, the voting electronics....it's too overwhelming, and there seems to be no opposition...that's the part I don't get.

that's what Nixon thought!

I believe they were and are just hiding incompetence. The conspiracy stuff can be debunked quite a bit by reading the 911 commision reports, and basic common sense. If Bush were to stage an attack on US it wouldn't be in a financial district, he would have hit something less damaging to economy. He wouldn't take out WTC, he would pick a civilian target but not one that pretty much assures a bad financial setting for first four years of presidency. The economic damage of this hit was far more then destruction and clean up. It was the center of trade!! He would have hit broadway or a stadium or a differenet populated area. The theory isn't sensible. The economic damage actually hurt his supporters wallets!! Id be willing to bet if it was inside plan, theyd do something that would actually cause profit opportunities, rather then cost billions in economic damage.

I have a hard time getting my head wrapped around their direct co-ordinating involvement as well, but its kind of like a jigsaw puzzle with a few pertinent missing pieces...and you know its there.

I disagree with this. GWB could care less about what happens to this country financially. Look at what he is doing to the economy with his fake war. Look at how much money he is probably making over there while the country suffers and people die.

It is too sad, and bush only cares about himself. Choosing a financial target gives him the excuse to point at something outside of himself and divert the blame to that instead of taking responsibility for his actions.

I posted this on another thread:


On 9/11, I lived just below the City on the Jersey Coast. So many of us went to the beach becuse we could see the towers and the smoke and the collapse. I was sitting inside at a friend's business having coffee and spoke with a 30's aged man who is Russian. He lived in the Turtle Bay section of NYC, near the UN. His father, who is a retired Russian diplomat called the son on the Friday before 9/11 and told his son he and his mother would be in NYC on Sunday and to make reservations at a hotel away from the City, that is why they were in Jersey. I sat on a bench with this man's father and he was in shock, he told me 'if they accomplish everything they plan to do today, your country will never be the same'. My answer to him 'You don't understand Americans, we may differ among ourselves but we are individually and collectively a strong people'.

The son told me that it was known that this event, 9/11, was going to occur. After spending hours sitting with these people, at the beach and in a hotel lobby watching what was unfolding, the mother, when the first building collapsed, came and sat next to me and held my hand. She was in panic as if she was bracing for more. I have no doubt that our government knew.

I am one of those people who paid to see Fahrenheit 9/11 and then bought the movie. I watched GW sitting in the chair in that classroom in Florida, his focus on a goat. SAD

I will never believe that we have been told the truth about 9/11!

I had thought he said something to the effect it made no difference, he'd go after whoever went after him, but maybe I misheard. Anyone have a link to the full text?

In any respect, I thought the most telling part of the OBL tape was when he said he'd pretty much bankrupt us from our "war on terror" This is how we won the "cold war."

Who wants to believe that our President, (whether we happen to like him or not), would be behind an attack on this country, or our VP or any of them for that matter. I can't wrap my mind around that either.

I think there are plenty of facts to look at without having to go into conspiracy theories at all, and those facts are bad enough.

Al-Qada attacked us, BinLaden, and we started off attacking the right country (Afghanistan) to get the bad guys, but then we invaded one that had nothing to do with it, no WMD's, no ties to Al-Qada. What the heck? To put us in more debt for war when we were already in trouble after the stock market tanked, with no WMD's, and no existing danger or threat to us (don't tell me about possible ones, that and a dime won't buy you a cup of coffee), what is the rationale behind that? I consider that incompetent.

I think the spending habits of GWB have to make most moderates and true believers in fiscal conservatism (like me) break out in hives. The war debt and tax cut debts are huge, but hey, we still have the social security transition debt, more tax cut debts, and God knows what else. People who live in the condition this country is in usually end up out in the street.

He has not done one damn thing to encourage companies to keep jobs here, and continues to reward them for sending them elsewhere, while simultaneously making it easier to insource more people on visas to take more of our jobs.

That is start, but I could go on and on. There are so many evident, tangible things about our President that show the huge damage he is doing to this country, why do we need conspiracy theories?

The facts are enough of a horror show!

This is not true at all. The amount of taxpayer money that will go into the rebuilding of the freedom tower + the sales of military equipment will be worth far more than the so-called "economic loss." But putting the world on a war footing, they have now good reason to increase the size of the military and place greater control on the civil rights of all people, while shirking their responsibilities for health insurance and social security. Not only increasing the size of the military here in the US, but every nation will start having to purchase more military equipment. Now, even nations like Brazil have nuclear reactors that could produce nuclear weapons....

SH seems to think the planes were remote controlled.
Then how does he explain the phone calls by people on the planes being hijacked? The only thing I have noticed is that those people didn't mention Mid-Easterners or Arabs or Saudis being the hijackers. I wonder why?

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Please read "Crossing the Rubicon" by Michael Ruppert of www.fromthewilderness.com Well documented and you don't need a tinfoil hat either.

If you were Chenney/Wolfowitz/Rumsfeld would you involve the little Bush? Of couse not! Much too risky. Bush is just the front man, selected for the job by the machine. (did you see the PBS show on Bush and Kerry's history? Interesting how little Bush was "interviewed" by George Schultz prior to being selected to run in 2000).

It is much more likely that the radical Neo-con gang knew something was coming and deliberately looked the other way (consistent with Richard Clarke's frustration at such little interest in Al Queda from the Bush admin 'principals'). There may have even been some help from this gand along the way, such as using Pakistan's CIA-equivalent organization to assist the 9-11 terrorists with finances, logistics and possibly even gave help to top Al Queda leaders in their escape from Afganistan (while the US went in strangely late and with such small force).

Also, forget all these remote-control theories, and grounding of our military planes etc. Too much risk to involve anyone other than the inner circle. And operations like these must always leave no trail and provide complete and total 'deniability'.

It may have been a payback for allowing his family out of the US after 9/11, if you want to follow Moore.

Kerry should have copied the tape and made an ad. He puts the tape in a VCR and says, Look! This is the man we should be after. He admits it. HE'S the one that killed our people at the WTC and the Pentagon, not Saddam Hussein. Bush has cost you 1200 of your sons and daughters and $200 billion to veer off and pursue his own fantasy in Iraq. This is crap! Elect me, and I will bring this bastard to justice.

But he didn't; he played it safe and pulled a Lieberman. This, plus rolling over while the swifties attacked him for a month straight, told the public that he was no warrior. And so they're following George, straight over a cliff.

http://www.rense.com

This website shows how the NeoCon coverup was done, it was likely a military plane or small missle. They didn't need to do the attack themselves when they basically called their arab "cohorts" in the other country, and staged the attack. The sick fascist Karl Rove knew he could find some glory...

It really is amazing to read the above posts suggesting that Bush and Cheney had a hand in 911. I think clearly OBL and his group did it without any help from our government. The US knew in a general way something big was about to happen in the Fall 2001 but they had no specifics.

Isn't it, though? And this has been viewed over 700 times. Has this country sunk so low that something like this manipulation could have happened? Would Bush be so heartless that he would kill potentially 10,000 civilians? Could we even in our wildest imaginations think that a Washington or Lincoln would do this? Of course not. Then why suspect Bush? Maybe the JFK murder influneces us.

I agree......I felt from day one that there was something sinister on the part of the government in regards to 9/11......Bush's whole presidency is based on that horrible attack on the United States....It has given him the excuse to preemptively attack another country, and turn his own country into a dictatorship...

sure!

(and already killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis)

I recommend reading the 9-11 comission report and reading "Imperial Hubris" by Anonymous.

What was there makes far more sense to me.

I think it is human nature for us to look some "madman" reason for these attacks; it is tough to realize that, in some sense, we brought this sort of response on ourselves (via our arrogant foreign policies).

Don't get me wrong: I think that we need to fight a war against Al-Qeda (sp) and I don't think that we are any more evil than any other country. But we ARE much more powerful and therefore our mistakes affect many more people than the mistakes made by other countries; hence given our might we need to be MORE moral and humble than other nations.

But we also need to be more humble abroad. Our response to this horrible Tsunami is a good start.

It has always made total sense to me. He's gained a lot from these attacks sick as that sounds!

I agree it was our foreign policy which brought us 911. Only changing that policy can end this endless war.

OBL attacked us primarily for two reasons: first, our military presence in Saudi Arabia, second, our support for Israel and her subjugation of the Palestinian people.

We have withdrawn our troops from Saudi Arabia. Next, we must withdraw all of our support from Israel. Then there will be a halt to AQ attacks against us, and essentially the war will end.

the OBL tape was a set up from the Bush campaign and the US swallowed it. Kerry should have been screaming that OBL hadn't been found by bush etc etc. I think our campaign was pretty spineless not to have counteracted this.

What makes you believe Bush set up the OBL tape?

Do the republicans control Al-Jazeera to?

Im sorry but Im not buying into this Bush is an evil dictator out to kill Americans for fun thing.

I think you are right!! I don't think Bush is smart enough to be a dictator. However, CHENEY IS, actually his wife is. Bush is a puppet.