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BlackBear Standing
A deal has been struck between the municipality of Monitor Township in northeastern lower Michigan and a water bottling corporation called Premier Manufacturing that will suck an estimated 3 million gallons per week from the Great Lakes and ship it to Iraq. Premier Manufacturing has a $30 million military contract with Halliburton.

Premier Manufacturing's deal is yet another theft of the people of Michigan's water in order to make a buck from the misfortune of others. This is a shameless act of war-profiteering. The majority of people of Michigan stand firmly opposed to diversion of water from the Great Lakes.

There has been a protracted legal battle with Nestle, owner of Perrier and Ice Mountain, for several years over its bottling operation here. Please boycott both of these products. A Michigan judge ordered the shut down of the Nestle plant last year on the basis of severe environmental damage to surrounding lakes and properties, but was overturned on appeal. Eco-terrorists later planted explosives at the gate of the Nestle plant, but the explosives were discovered before any damage was done. No way Perrier!

A link below to an article from the Bay City Times, of Bay City Michigan provides further info on the Premier Manufacturing deal. This article was later deleted from the Bay City Times website.

http://michiganimc.org/newswire/display_any/6975

Governor Granholm of Michigan has not acted. Let her know what you think.
gmanders777
Are they paying the state or local govt for the water?

Look into the politicians did they have some deal?
j2inMi
QUOTE(BlackBear Standing @ Nov 14 2004, 07:41 PM)
A deal has been struck between the municipality of Monitor Township in northeastern lower Michigan and a water bottling corporation called Premier Manufacturing that will suck an estimated 3 million gallons per week from the Great Lakes and ship it to Iraq.  Premier Manufacturing has a $30 million military contract with Halliburton.

Premier Manufacturing's deal is yet another theft of the people of Michigan's water in order to make a buck from the misfortune of others.  This is a shameless act of war-profiteering.  The majority of people of  Michigan stand firmly opposed to diversion of water from the Great Lakes. 

There has been a protracted legal battle with Nestle, owner of Perrier and Ice Mountain, for several years over its bottling operation here.  Please boycott both of these products. A Michigan judge ordered the shut down of the Nestle plant last year on the basis of severe environmental damage to surrounding lakes and properties, but was overturned on appeal.  Eco-terrorists later planted explosives at the gate of the Nestle plant, but the explosives were discovered before any damage was done.  No way Perrier!


A link below to an article from the Bay City Times, of Bay City Michigan provides further info on the Premier Manufacturing deal.  This article was later deleted from the Bay City Times website.

http://michiganimc.org/newswire/display_any/6975

Governor Granholm of Michigan has not acted.  Let her know what you think.
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What an outrage. Thanks for the info.

I am not giving any of our beautiful Great Lakes to Halliburton.
Gov. Granholm will hear from me, too.

This administration has to be stopped!!!
I can't believe their ignoring global warming, drilling in Alaska, planting nuclear waste in Nevada, and now eyeing the Great Lakes. God, help us.
Marine
QUOTE(j2inMi @ Nov 14 2004, 05:51 PM)
What an outrage.  Thanks for the info.

I am not giving any of our beautiful Great Lakes to Halliburton.
Gov. Granholm will hear from me, too. 

This administration has to be stopped!!! 
I can't believe their ignoring global warming, drilling in Alaska, planting nuclear waste in Nevada, and now eyeing the Great Lakes.  God, help us.
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This is awful, someone needs to stop this now!!!!

This water isn't fit for human consumption, why are they sending it to be drank by out troops.
http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/image/viz_iss2.html
http://www.mindfully.org/Air/Air-Toxics-Significant.htm
http://www.lakemichigan.org/elimination/balance.asp
Sparkle
Keep us posted and updated please as I have heard nothing about this issue. Is there a way we can help stop it?... besides boycotting ...since the water is going to Iraq that makes it difficult.


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BlackBear Standing
FBI seeks evidence from couple in water bottling plant attempted bombing

(Mecosta County-AP, November 11, 2003, 10:30 a.m.) The FBI is seeking DNA evidence from a couple in its probe of an attempted bombing at a west Michigan water bottling plant.

Marie Mason and her husband, Frank Ambrose, say they'll fight the FBI subpoenas. They say they're targets of a federal campaign of intimidation meant to silence environmental protesters. The Detroit residents deny any involvement in the bomb case.

The time bomb was discovered and disarmed September 22 in an unstaffed pumping station in Mecosta County. The plant taps an underground spring for Ice Mountain bottled water. No arrests have been made.

(Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
speed
Isn't there a compact with Canada that forbids exporting great lake water?

QUOTE(BlackBear Standing @ Nov 14 2004, 07:41 PM)
A deal has been struck between the municipality of Monitor Township in northeastern lower Michigan and a water bottling corporation called Premier Manufacturing that will suck an estimated 3 million gallons per week from the Great Lakes and ship it to Iraq.  Premier Manufacturing has a $30 million military contract with Halliburton.

Premier Manufacturing's deal is yet another theft of the people of Michigan's water in order to make a buck from the misfortune of others.  This is a shameless act of war-profiteering.  The majority of people of  Michigan stand firmly opposed to diversion of water from the Great Lakes. 

There has been a protracted legal battle with Nestle, owner of Perrier and Ice Mountain, for several years over its bottling operation here.  Please boycott both of these products. A Michigan judge ordered the shut down of the Nestle plant last year on the basis of severe environmental damage to surrounding lakes and properties, but was overturned on appeal.  Eco-terrorists later planted explosives at the gate of the Nestle plant, but the explosives were discovered before any damage was done.  No way Perrier!

A link below to an article from the Bay City Times, of Bay City Michigan provides further info on the Premier Manufacturing deal.  This article was later deleted from the Bay City Times website.

http://michiganimc.org/newswire/display_any/6975

Governor Granholm of Michigan has not acted.  Let her know what you think.
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piccadilly
3,000,000 gallons per week

= 11,356 m3 per week ( 1 m3 = 264 US gallons )
= 156,000,000 gallons per year = 590,512 m3 per year ( 1 year = 52 weeks )
= 208,661 tonnes per year (1 gross shipping ton = 2.83 m3 = 100 cubic feet)

( Capacity of biggest oil tankers in the world = 500,000 tonnes )
( Capacity of biggest "Suez" oil tankers = 140,000 tonnes )

= less than 1/2 the capacity of the biggest oil tanker in the world
= 1.5 x the capacity of a "Suez" oil tanker

For comparaison:

In 2003, the average USA oil consumption was:

20.0 million of barrels per day (MMBD)

= 1,000,000,000 tonnes per year
( 1 barrel per day (b/d) = 50 tonnes per year )
= 2,000 x the capacity of biggest oil tanker in the world
= 7,150 x the capacity of a "Suez" oil tanker

( http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usa.html )


BUT, it takes 1,851 gallons (7,000 liters) of water to refine one barrel of crude oil,
or
7 m3 of water to refine 0.15899 m3 of crude oil
or
44 m3 of water to refine 1 m3 of crude oil
or
44 gallons of water to refine 1 gallon of crude oil

( 1 US barrel = 0.15899 m3 )
http://www.greatlakesdirectory.org/articles/0603_bottled.htm

Unit conversion
http://www.eppo.go.th/ref/UNIT-OIL.html
http://amchouston.home.att.net/tankers.htm
piccadilly
Great Lakes Water Export/ Water Diversion/ Great Lakes Water Privatization/
Dropping Water Levels/Global Water Crisis


http://www.greatlakesdirectory.org/great_l...ater_export.htm
winger
You guys/gals really need to read the article before flying off the handle. In the article - it specifically states:

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Shay Water will clean the bottles, fill them with purified Bay City municipal water, cap the bottles and ship them.


This is not going to empty the great lakes. It is coming from the CITY.

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grammydidi
QUOTE(winger @ Nov 15 2004, 01:39 PM)
You guys/gals really need to read the article before flying off the handle.  In the article - it specifically states:
This is not going to empty the great lakes.  It is coming from the CITY.

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Where does the city get it????????????
Marine
QUOTE(grammydidi @ Nov 16 2004, 06:37 AM)
Where does the city get it????????????
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From the list of all of the pollutants, heavy metals, chemical compounds, etc. which the EPA publishes, I hope they aren't pumping it out of Lake Michigan.

Water from Lake Michigan isn't fit for human consumption.
http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/image/viz_iss2.html
http://www.mindfully.org/Air/Air-Toxics-Significant.htm
http://www.lakemichigan.org/elimination/balance.asp
farmerTom
I don't care if the lake level is dropping. The people of Iraq are dying of thirst, you need to learn to share, or all thirsty people of the world can move up there with you. :D Find an alternative source and post that, the water isn't yours it belongs to all the life forms on this planet. If you are concerned about the water level then start rationing your water so people in Iraq can at least have water to drink and clean with. What's the matter with you? Is compassion a learned thing or is it inate?
anomie_inc
QUOTE(Marine @ Nov 16 2004, 08:43 PM)
Water from Lake Michigan isn't fit for human consumption.


i wonder if it's fit for refining crude oil? because i don't think it's really INTENDED for human consumption in the 1st place...

you'll have to pardon my skepticism, but Halliburton's involvement brings that out in me. i'll believe it's for drinking when i see a picture of the bottles.
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