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U.S. Widens Offensive In Far Western Iraq

By John Ward Anderson

BAGHDAD, Nov. 14 -- The U.S. military broadened its offensive in western Iraq on Monday, launching a major attack on insurgent positions in the town of Ubaydi near the Syrian border and killing about 50 insurgents in precision airstrikes and house-to-house street fighting, according to news reports and the U.S. military.

U.S. and Iraqi troops reportedly faced stiff resistance from machine-gun and small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades.

U.S. airstrikes hit five targets, the U.S. military reported. "The insurgents were engaging Coalition Forces with small arms fire at the time of the strikes," a U.S. military statement said.

A statement attributed to the insurgent group al Qaeda in Iraq was posted on mosques in Ramadi, about 140 miles away, saying 19 of its fighters had been killed. The group is led by Jordanian-born Abu Musab Zarqawi.

"This is a fight all the way through the city," said Col. Stephen Davis, commander of Marine Regimental Combat Team 2, describing the fighting, according to CNN, which had a producer embedded with U.S. troops. Davis said that his forces were encountering "significant resistance" and that they had found three buildings wired with explosives and numerous roadside bombs and car bombs. U.S. officials said about two dozen insurgents had been captured.

"Insurgent fighters have been battling with Iraqi and Coalition Forces since the operation began at dawn," a military statement said. "A suspected car bomb placed in the advance of Iraqi Forces was engaged with a round from an M1A1 tank. The blast from the tank initiated a secondary explosion powerful enough to throw the car onto the roof of a nearby building."

The fighting opened a new phase in Operation Steel Curtain, an offensive that began Nov. 5 in the border town of Husaybah, about 200 miles west of Baghdad. The offensive involves about 2,500 U.S. troops and 1,000 Iraqi army soldiers and is intended to rid the border area of havens for foreign insurgents, particularly members of al Qaeda in Iraq.

The U.S. military also is trying to smash a smuggling network used by al Qaeda to bring foreign fighters, money and weapons from Syria into the Iraqi heartland via the Euphrates River valley, which runs from the border almost to Baghdad, U.S. officials said.

At least two Marines have been killed in the operation and nine have been wounded, according to official reports.

In May, the U.S. military conducted a similar offensive, called Operation Matador, to clean insurgents out of Ubaydi, which is on the banks of the Euphrates about 15 miles from Syria. At least nine Marines were killed and 40 wounded in the operation, but insurgents apparently returned to the town afterward.

U.S. officials highlighted increased participation by Iraqi forces in the new offensive.

"Operation Steel Curtain differs from Matador in the respect that a permanent presence of Iraqi and U.S. forces will be established in the city," the military said in a statement Monday.

The U.S. military has not released comprehensive information about civilian casualties from the 10-day-old Steel Curtain offensive. U.S. military officials challenged a report by a Red Crescent Society official, quoted in The Washington Post last week, that 29 civilians were killed in the first three days of the operation. On Monday, CNN journalists embedded with U.S. troops filmed people picking through the rubble of a house where neighbors said 17 people had been killed in an airstrike, apparently several days ago.

In other violence Monday, a roadside bomb killed two South African security contractors in downtown Baghdad, a U.S. Embassy spokeswoman said. The contractors, who worked for Reston-based DynCorp International, a State Department security contractor, were killed when the bomb exploded near an Iraqi police checkpoint close to the fortified Green Zone, which houses the Iraqi government and U.S. diplomatic personnel. The spokeswoman said three people were injured in the blast.

Three other people were killed by a roadside bomb in eastern Baghdad, police said. In the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi, 60 miles west of the capital, three people were killed and 16 wounded when a roadside bomb exploded near a bus. Hamza Dulaimi, a manager at Ramadi Hospital, said the target of the bombing was apparently a U.S. military convoy traveling behind the bus, which he said was carrying students and employees of Anbar University.


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Yard by yard in Iraq
The US has set benchmarks for political progress in Iraq. It must do so
for military progress. The Monitor's View
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1115/p08s01-comv.html?s=hns
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Bush Goes on the Offensive Against Critics of War in Iraq
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At a Veterans Day rally, he says Democrats' 'baseless attacks' are undermining troops.

By Warren Vieth and James Gerstenzang
Times Staff Writers

November 12 2005

TOBYHANNA, Pa.; President Bush, on the defensive over allegations that he manipulated intelligence in order to build support for invading Iraq, launched an unusually sharp attack on Democratic lawmakers and other critics Friday for trying to "rewrite the history" of how and why the war began.

The complete article can be viewed at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na...a-home-politics
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Bush Swipes at Iraq Critics on Way to Asia
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At a stop in Alaska, the president says Democratic senators who had supported the war are 'speaking politics now.'

By Peter Wallsten
Times Staff Writer

November 15 2005

KYOTO, Japan; With his approval ratings slipping at home, President Bush on Monday flew overseas for the second time this month — but not before taking a parting shot at critics of his Iraq policy.

The complete article can be viewed at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...=la-home-nation
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Iraqi, U.S. Officials Talk of Withdrawal
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Authorities signal that foreign troops could start pulling out in the next two years.

By Paul Richter and John Daniszewski
Times Staff Writers

November 15 2005

WASHINGTON; Despite President Bush's effort to halt such talk, top Iraqi and American officials continue to suggest that U.S. and British troops in Iraq could begin substantial withdrawals as soon as next year.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wo...-home-headlines
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New York Times

November 15, 2005
U.S.-Iraqi Assault Meets Resistance Near Syrian Border
By KIRK SEMPLE and EDWARD WONG

CAMP AL QAIM, Iraq, Nov. 14 - Two marines were killed and at least nine wounded in ambushes and fierce street battles on Monday as thousands of American and Iraqi troops stormed Ubaydi, a riverside town near the Syrian border that American commanders say has become a haven for foreign jihadists.

At least one Iraqi Army soldier and two Iraqi civilians were also wounded in the clashes, officials said.

The operation was a continuation of a sweep in the area that began Nov. 5 and resistance appeared to be as stiff as anything the Americans have faced in western Anbar Province. The Marine-led forces faced steady resistance throughout the day and encountered an array of mines and hidden bombs in the town's houses and dusty streets. More than 70 guerrillas were killed and more than 100 people suspected of being insurgents were detained, said Col. Stephen W. Davis of the Marine Corps, who was commanding the operation from this base south of Ubaydi.

In Ubaydi, armored vehicles rolled through the streets and helicopters and fighter jets roared overhead as the battle unfolded from dawn until well into the night. Marine commanders said the majority of American casualties on Monday were caused by hidden bombs that detonated as troops were searching streets and buildings while simultaneously responding to small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenade attacks.

The assault - involving about 1,500 American troops and 500 Iraqi Army soldiers - was the latest in the American military's campaign to ferret out insurgents who use Euphrates River towns in Anbar Province to smuggle in fighters and matιriel from Syria. Ubaydi, which is split between a new sector and an old sector, is about 10 miles east of the Syrian border in a heart-shaped bend in the river.

The operation follows a similar one last week to clear the towns of Husayba and neighboring Karabila, further west along the Euphrates. All three towns had become insurgent strongholds, military officials said, as well as command centers for the smuggling pipeline from Syria. Marines tried an offensive in the Ubaydi area last May, but insurgents filtered back in once the Americans had left.

This time, the Marines intend to leave a permanent presence of American and Iraqi troops in the town.

The sweeps of Husayba and Karabila ended on Saturday, and permanent garrisons are being built there to house American and Iraqi troops.

"Allowing the people not to be controlled by insurgents and allowing them to live freely and not in the grip of fear is what will beat the insurgency," said Capt. Conlon Carabine, commander of Company I of the Third Battalion, Sixth Marines, after his marines had finished clearing the last house in their area of Karabila this weekend.

In Baghdad on Monday, a suicide car bomber rammed into a convoy of security contractors near the heavily fortified Green Zone, killing at least two people and injuring three others, American Embassy officials said. The two killed were South Africans, and those injured were South African, Iraqi and American, they said. The contractors were working for DynCorp, an American company that has suffered many casualties here and in Afghanistan.

A roadside bomb that exploded next to an Iraqi Army convoy killed three civilians and injured four others, the Interior Ministry official said. Another roadside bomb killed an Iraqi police officer and injured two others when it exploded near a police patrol. An imam and an Iraqi military intelligence officer were gunned down in separate incidents in Baghdad, and a police colonel was killed in a town south of the capital.

The mystery surrounding the fate of Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, a senior aide to Saddam Hussein and one of the most wanted men in Iraq, deepened as a Web site that had posted a message Saturday announcing Mr. Ibrahim's death took it down. The American military said Sunday that it was still hunting for Mr. Ibrahim, 63, because the Web site posting the death announcement had proved unreliable in the past. Another Web site claiming to speak for the Baath Party also said on Sunday that the original posting had been wrong.

Residents of Dour, the northern hometown of Mr. Ibrahim, said American and Iraqi troops descended on the area on Monday to search for Mr. Ibrahim, according to news agencies.

The battle in Ubaydi began at dawn, as the American-led troops streamed in from the desert and through rocky scrubland on the outskirts. As they approached the town, Super Cobra helicopters and Hueys swooped in and hit suspected insurgent hideouts with machine-gun fire and Hellfire missiles. Tanks positioned on the edge of town fired a barrage of rounds and F-18 fighter jets dropped 500-pound bombs.

The aerial assault ebbed after about an hour, giving way to a day of sporadic gun battles and the dangerous task of breaking into homes and scouring them for insurgents and munitions. Troops were slowed by hidden bombs but managed to cover about two-thirds of the town, Colonel Davis said.

Most of the residents had already fled before the siege. Of those who remained, many walked out of town in groups throughout the day, carrying white flags.

Kirk Semple reported from Camp Al Qaim for this article, and Edward Wong from Baghdad. Johan Spanner contributed reporting from Ubaydi.





Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company
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http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1312282

EXCLUSIVE: Former Iraqi Detainees Allege Torture by U.S. TroopsMen Say Repeated Beatings, Mock Execution, Sexual Humiliation Were Prevalent
By JAKE TAPPER and GEORGE GRIFFIN

Nov. 14, 2005 — Two former Iraqi detainees tell ABC News in an exclusive interview that they were repeatedly tortured by U.S. forces seeking information about Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction.

Thahee Sabbar and Sherzad Khalid are two of eight men who, with help from the American Civil Liberties Union and the group Human Rights First, are suing Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. The men claim they were tortured for months, in violation of the U.S. Constitution and international law.


Torture has been the center of controversy lately. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. — himself a victim of torture during the Vietnam War — has sparked a heated debate after his proposed amendment to ban torture was reportedly the subject of intense lobbying by Vice President Dick Cheney, who sought an exemption for CIA officers.


When asked about it, President Bush said, "Our country is at war, and our government has the obligation to protect the American people … Any activity we conduct, is within the law. We do not torture."


But after the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal — according to the Pentagon's own investigations — it is irrefutable that U.S. forces have tortured detainees, many of whom claim they had no involvement at all with al Qaeda or the insurgency in Iraq, but were nonetheless arrested by U.S. soldiers and physically abused.


Sabbar and Khalid say they are two such men.


Khalid — a 34-year-old married father of four children — says he worked in the grocery business until July 17, 2003, when U.S. soldiers interrupted a business meeting he was having with Thahee Sabbar, who sold sugar and bananas. U.S. soldiers, they say, interrupted their meeting and arrested them.


"I was very surprised when they arrested me," Khalid told ABC News through a translator. "They did not give any reason why they were taking me. And we asked them, but no answer. The only answer was severe beating."


Khalid says U.S. soldiers tied his hands behind his back, put a hood over his head, and beat him to the point of breaking his tooth and bloodying his nose. Sabbar claims he suffered similar treatment, with soldiers dislocating his shoulder.


Threatened With Lions, Mock Execution

Khalid told ABC News that U.S. soldiers at one point threatened him with live lions.


"They took us to a cage — an animal cage that had lions in it within the Republican Palace," he said. "And they threatened us that if we did not confess, they would put us inside the cage with the lions in it. It scared me a lot when they got me close to the cage, and they threatened me. And they opened the door and they threatened that if I did not confess, that they were going to throw me inside the cage. And as the lion was coming closer, they would pull me back out and shut the door, and tell me, 'We will give you one more chance to confess.' And I would say, 'Confess to what?'"


Inside the Republican Palace — the site of Saddam's former office — Sabbar says troops taunted him with a mock execution.


"I found the other prisoners who had come before me there in the line beside me mocking, in a way as to make it a mock execution," he said. "They all stood up, those of us who could stand up. They directed their weapons towards us. And they shot, shot towards our heads and chests. And when the shots sounded, some of us lost consciousness. Some started to cry. Some lost control of their bladders. And they were laughing the whole time."


After a night in jail at the Republican Palace, Khalid says he was taken to the prison at the Baghdad airport where the torture continued.


"They put us in individual cells," he said. "And before entering those cells, they formed two teams of American soldiers — one to the right, one to the left — about 10 to 15 each American soldiers. And they were holding wooden sticks. It was like a hallway, like a passage. And they made us go that hallway while shouting at us as we were walking through and hitting us with the wooden sticks. They were beating us severely."


Khalid says U.S. soldiers deprived him of food, water, and sleep. He claims he began to suffer from stomach ulcers, but was denied medical care.


All the while, Khalid says, soldiers routinely asked for information about Saddam's whereabouts: "I said to him, 'How would I know where Saddam is?' And I thought that he was kidding me. And that's why I laughed. And he beat me again."


Khalid refuses to talk about one other allegation. In his legal complaint, he holds U.S. soldiers responsible for "Sexually assaulting and humiliating [him] … by grabbing his buttocks and simulating anal rape by pressing a water bottle against the seat of his pants; putting a hand inside [his] … pants and grabbing his buttocks during a severe beating … (and) brandishing a long wooden pole and threatening to sodomize him on the spot and every night of his detention."


According to Sabbar, U.S. soldiers used Taser guns and rubber bullets to control detainees.


"They had another kind of torture using electrical shocks, pointing a hand gun towards you that shocks you and causes you to lose consciousness for a while," he said. "That was one of the methods at the airport [jail]. Or use rubber bullets that end up hurting or burning the area where it hits you, and very painful ones."

Mistreatment at Abu Ghraib

Sabbar ended up at Abu Ghraib, the detention center where the abuse of detainees was captured in the now-infamous photographs that shocked the world. However, he was not held inside one of the cell blocks, but rather outside in a courtyard.

"We entered Abu Ghraib and there the behavior of the soldiers was different — a different type of torture. They put us in different groups. The lack of food — we could not eat as much as we did before. And if they gave us food, it certainly is spoiled most of the time, so either you die from not eating, or you have to be taken to the emergency [room]."

Sabbar also alleges troops mistreated the Koran, an egregious affront to Islam.

"They would give us Korans as well as the holy Bible, and they would come on purpose to walk or step on the holy Koran, and we opposed or — protested that. Or they would take it … and throw it away in front of everybody, the holy Koran. And this was painful to us."

Khalid — who says he still suffers severe back pain — was released in September 2003; Sabbar in January 2004. As is the case with many detainees, no charges were filed against them.

As for the torture allegations, both men know it is basically their word against the U.S. military.

"What I am telling you is not from imagination," said Sabbar. "This is my reality, and my pain that I suffered."

"There's some serious allegations in there," said retired Lt .Col. Robert Maginnis, now an Army consultant. "If those, in fact, took place, investigations should ensue and the appropriate people should be punished. … I don't doubt that we made many mistakes. That's characteristic of the fog [of war] and the confusion of the battlefield."

Human Rights First and the ACLU — the groups bringing the lawsuit on their behalf — allege such torture was part of the Pentagon playbook.

"They were basically told that this was a different type of war, and the rules didn't apply anymore," said ACLU executive director Anthony Romero.

"What we have done here is undermining our efforts to win hearts and minds and undermining our efforts to gather strategic intelligence so we can successfully fight and win, not only the current counter-insurgency, but the war on terror at large ," said Deborah Pearlstein of Human Rights First. "This is against our national security interests in the most immediate way."

Both the Pentagon and the Justice Department acknowledged the two men were prisoners but refused to comment on their allegations.

When the lawsuit was first filed, the Pentagon said in a written statement, "We vigorously dispute any assertion or implication that the Department of Defense approved of, sanctioned, or condoned as a matter of policy detainee abuse," but it did not address the specific allegations.

Some conservative legal scholars question if the case as a question of law has much standing. "The facts that they allege really do not tie these horrific events — these instances of torture and beating and sleep deprivation and dietary manipulation — to the secretary of defense," says Douglas Kmiec, a professor at Pepperdine Law School and a former Justice Department official in the Reagan administration.

Also problematic, Kmiec says, are the notions of non-Americans suing for rights violated under the U.S. Constitution, or trying to enforce international treaties in a U.S. court. "As a matter of legal theory it's a very difficult case to prove and to convince a court that it has the jurisdiction to actually rule on the question in the first place."

Khalid and Sabbar say they believe their case will prevail, because they say they believe in the U.S. justice system.

"Because it's truth," Khalid said. "And when the American courts will hear my case & I am sure that the American justice [system] will believe that."

Avery Miller and Camille Elhassani contributed to this report.

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Senate Urges Bush to Report Progress on Ending War Bloomberg
The Senate today called on President George W. Bush to explain his strategy for ending the war in Iraq and report every three months on progress until all US troops stationed there are redeployed. The measure, passed 79-19, is one of several attached to a major defense bill that reflect unease within the president's own party as polls show increasing public impatience with the conflict and Democrats step up criticism.
US Senate votes to require progress reports on Iraq Forbes
Republicans defeat Senate measure for Iraq timetable Newsday
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Bush urged to end Iraqi war News24
The Republican-controlled Senate rejected a Democratic demand for a timetable to withdraw United States troops from Iraq but urged President George W Bush to outline his plan for "the successful completion of the mission." The watered-down bill reflected growing bipartisan unease with Bush's Iraq policies. The overall measure, adopted 98-0 on Tuesday, shows a willingness to defy the president in several ways. It would restrict the techniques used to interrogate terror detainees, ban inhuman treatment of them and tell the administration to provide quarterly reports on the status of operations in Iraq. The Bush administration has threatened to veto any bill that includes language about the treatment of detainees, arguing it would limit the president's ability to prevent terrorist attacks. Bush never has vetoed a bill. Bush, travelling in Japan, said he was happy to keep congress informed of his plan to bring democracy to Iraq. "It is important that we succeed in Iraq ... and we're going to," Bush said Wednesday during a media conference with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi. "The only way that we won't succeed is if we lose our nerve and the terrorists are able to drive us out of Iraq by killing innocent lives." The bill was not without victories for the president, including support for military tribunals with which Bush wants to try detainees at the prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. That was tempered, however, with language letting the inmates appeal to a federal court their designation as enemy combatants, and their sentences. The bill includes provisions that, taken together, mark an effort by congress to rein in some of the wide authority it gave the president after the September 11 2001 terror attacks. Reflecting senators' anger over recent leaks of classified information, the bill also contains provisions that would require details of purportedly secret CIA prisons overseas and strip security clearances of federal government officials who knowingly disclose national security secrets. The Senate's votes on Iraq showed a willingness even by Republicans to question the White House on a war that's growing increasingly unpopular with Americans. Polls show Bush's popularity has tumbled in part because of public frustration over Iraq, a war that has claimed the lives of more than 2 070 American troops.
Senate Presses Administration for Iraq Plans New York Times
Bush Welcomes Senate Action on Iraq Voice of America
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WHAT KERRY SAID Financial Times
White House-released quotes claiming to show that leading Democrats backed removing Saddam Hussein.

The quote:
Senator John Kerry, December 2001: "I think we have to keep the pressure on terrorism globally. This doesn't end with Afghanistan by any imagination. . . Terrorism is a global menace. It's a scourge. And it is absolutely vital that we continue, for instance, Saddam Hussein."

What was left out:
Larry King, CNN: "We should go to Iraq?" Kerry: "Well that - what you do and how you choose to do it, we have a lot of options. Absent smoking-gun evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the immediate events of September 11, the president doesn't have the authorisation to proceed there."
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Iraq Says Abused Detainees From All Sects Guardian Unlimited
A top Interior Ministry official said Wednesday the 173 malnourished prisoners found by US forces included all Iraqi sects, playing down allegations of a campaign by Shiite-led security forces to suppress Sunni Arabs ahead of next month's election. The Shiite-led government sought to dampen Sunni outrage over revelations Tuesday by Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari that 173 detainees, some showing signs of torture, were found last weekend by U.S. troops at an Interior Ministry lockup in the capital. Most were believed to be Sunni Arabs, the leading group in the insurgency. But the deputy interior minister, Maj. Gen. Hussein Kamal, said the detainees also included Shiites, Kurds and Turkomen. He gave no breakdown.
Torture bunker busted Melbourne Herald Sun
Iraqi group urges prison abuse inquiry Aljazeera.net
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3 U.S. Soldiers and One Marine Among 11 Killed In Continuing Violence:

Three Iraqi policemen from the Facility Protection Service, a government-run security force, were killed by gunmen in Mosul
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/KAM641404.htm
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5 Marines Killed as U.S. Pushes Sweep in Western Iraq :

Five Marines were killed and 11 were wounded this morning while they searched a house on the outskirts of this town in western Anbar Province
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11025.htm
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US raid finds 200 victims in secret Iraqi 'torture' jail:

UP TO 200 starving Iraqis bearing signs of torture have been found in an apparently secret jail in Baghdad in circumstances reminiscent of Saddam Hussein’s regime.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11026.htm
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Iraqi PM and US forces had been told about 'torture cells' months ago:

US troops were stunned by what they found - many of the prisoners appeared to have been brutally beaten and most had been malnourished for weeks. There are also rumors of several dead bodies in the cell that showed signs of severe torture.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1116/dailyUpdate.html
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We Do Torture:

Failures require more spin than normal, but where does the president get off daring to speak for “we”? 60% of Americans no longer believe he’s honest, let alone justified in wasting American lives in Iraq.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11036.htm
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We Do Torture:

Failures require more spin than normal, but where does the president get off daring to speak for “we”? 60% of Americans no longer believe he’s honest, let alone justified in wasting American lives in Iraq.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11036.htm
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Republicans want exit strategy:

Republicans are growing increasingly anxious about the turn of public opinion against the war ahead of mid-term congressional elections next year.
http://tinyurl.com/7sjhz
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Senators send Bush message, seek strategy for exit from Iraq:

The resolution, which passed with broad bipartisan support, 79-19, calls for 2006 to be "a period of significant transition to full Iraqi sovereignty," which would create conditions for "the phased redeployment of United States forces from Iraq."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/poli...nateiraq16.html
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UK puts finishing touches to Iraq exit strategy:

According to several senior sources, the policy under discussion with Washington envisages the replacement of the current Iraqi prime minister Ibrahim Jaafari with a more effective successor.
http://tinyurl.com/cwvwe
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Israel wants US to pull out from Iraq:

Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak today called upon the United States to reduce its forces in Iraq, saying Washington had ''made mistakes'' and its continued presence in that country would complicate the problem with fallout in the entire West Asia.
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetai...64415&cat=India
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U.S. admits using phosphorus as weapon in Iraq:

U.S. troops used white phosphorus as a weapon against insurgents in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, a spokesman for the U.S. military has admitted.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11023.htm
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UK used white phosphorus in Iraq :

UK troops have used white phosphorus in Iraq - but only to create smokescreens, Defence Secretary John Reid has said.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11024.htm
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Marines Quiet About Brutal New Weapon:

It proved highly effective in the battle for Fallujah.
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001944.html
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Bush Gang Swore Saddam Was Behind 9/11 In Lawsuit :

The debate over who was most responsible for convincing the nation that there was a link between Saddam and 9/11 will probably continue for years but an important piece of the puzzle can be found by zeroing in on a woman by the name of Laurie Mylroie, that most people have probably never heard.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11030.htm
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051116/pl_nm/iraq_usa_dc

Senate pushes for speedier handover in Iraq By Vicki Allen and Charles Aldinger
Tue Nov 15,11:01 PM ET



Showing mounting discontent among Republicans over the Iraq war, the U.S. Senate resolved on Tuesday that Iraqis should start taking the lead in their own security next year to allow a phased withdrawal of U.S. troops.

But the Republican-led Senate rejected Democrats' demand for Republican President George W. Bush to submit a plan and an estimated timetable to withdraw U.S. forces, a step Bush has vehemently opposed.

The Senate's 79 to 19 vote came days after Bush, facing waning support for the war and the lowest job approval ratings of his presidency, launched an aggressive counteroffensive against Democratic critics who say he misled the country by hyping prewar intelligence on Iraq to justify the 2003 invasion.

The Senate demand, and with it the stirrings of Republican revolt, was another blow to Bush, who is reeling over a string of setbacks including his administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, controversy over Supreme Court nominees and high gas prices.

But Bush, meeting Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi in Kyoto, told reporters he saw the Senate action as positive because senators rejected a withdrawal timetable.

"It is important that we succeed in Iraq... The only reason we won't succeed is if we lose our nerve and the terrorists are able to drive us out of Iraq by killing innocent lives, but I view this as positive developments on (Capitol) Hill," he said.

The Senate resolution said 2006 "should be a period of significant transition to full Iraqi sovereignty, with Iraqi security forces taking the lead for the security of a free and sovereign Iraq, thereby creating the conditions for the phased redeployment of United States forces from Iraq."

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada called the resolution a rejection of Bush's Iraq policy.

"Today you saw a vote of no confidence in the Bush administration's policy on Iraq. Democrats and Republicans acknowledged that staying the course is not the way to go."

The Republican resolution, sponsored by Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee and Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner of Virginia, largely mirrored a Democratic resolution, except for Democrats' key requirement for a withdrawal plan.

Senators defeated the Democrats' resolution 58-40 before backing the other.

Texas Republican John Cornyn said the Senate "chose not the cut-and- run option but the stay-and-fight option -- and to win -- and then to bring our troops home as soon as possible."

DEFENDING 'THE MISSION'

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was pressed by reporters on whether the vote signaled a growing impatience with the Iraq war similar to that sparked more than three decades ago by the U.S. war in Vietnam.

"Oh, I wouldn't go down that road myself," Rumsfeld, who has rejected any direct comparison between the two wars, told a Pentagon news conference.

Bush has argued that setting a timetable for pulling out the nearly 160,000 U.S. troops in Iraq would send a green light to insurgents.

"While the American people understandably want to know when our forces can leave Iraq, I believe they do not want to leave until the mission is complete," Rumsfeld said.

The resolution's purpose is "to clarify and recommend changes" in U.S. policy in Iraq, and it requires progress reports to Congress every 90 days.

Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record), Republican of Nebraska and a member of the Senate foreign relations and intelligence oversight committees, said the resolution gave Congress more of an oversight role in the progress of the war and suggested it should have acted earlier.

"We in the Congress also should be assigned some blame. We let this all unfold right in front of our eyes with very little questioning, very little oversight. I think it was a straight up-or-down Republican deal," he said in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations.

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record) said he opposed the resolution on the grounds it would send the wrong signal to the Iraqi insurgency.

The Republican resolution was attached to a bill authorizing $491.6 billion in defense programs that the Senate passed unanimously.

Bush has twice in recent days ripped into Democrats who have accused the Republican president and other top administration officials of manipulating prewar intelligence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. No such weapons were found.

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Bill Clinton Calls Iraq 'Big Mistake'

By LARA SUKHTIAN

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- Former President Clinton told Arab students Wednesday the United States made a "big mistake" when it invaded Iraq, stoking the partisan debate back home over the war.

Clinton cited the lack of planning for what would happen after Saddam Hussein was overthrown.

"Saddam is gone. It's a good thing, but I don't agree with what was done," Clinton told students at a forum at the American University of Dubai.

"It was a big mistake. The American government made several errors ... one of which is how easy it would be to get rid of Saddam and how hard it would be to unite the country."

Clinton's remarks came when he was taking questions about the U.S. invasion, which began in 2003. His response drew cheers and a standing ovation at the end of the hour-long session.

Clinton said the United States had done some good things in Iraq: the removal of Saddam, the ratification of a new constitution and the holding of parliamentary elections.

"The mistake that they made is that when they kicked out Saddam, they decided to dismantle the whole authority structure of Iraq. ... We never sent enough troops and didn't have enough troops to control or seal the borders," Clinton said.

As the borders were unsealed, "the terrorists came in," he said.

Clinton said it would have been better if the United States had left Iraq's "fundamental military and social and police structure intact."

Democrats are accusing President Bush of having misled the American public about the urgency of the Iraqi threat before his order to invade, and Bush on Monday threw back at Democratic critics the worries they once expressed about Saddam.

"They spoke the truth then and they're speaking politics now," Bush charged.

On Tuesday, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld continued Bush's attack, citing the words of Clinton and others from his administration as saying Saddam was a security threat to the United States and its allies.

At a Pentagon news conference, Rumsfeld noted the Iraq Liberation Act that Congress passed in 1998 had said it should be U.S. government policy to support Saddam's removal from power. He noted that Clinton signed the act and ordered four days of bombing in December 1998.

Recent opinion polls show Bush as having the lowest approval rating of his presidency. In AP-Ipsos polling, a majority of Americans say Bush is not honest and they disapprove of his handling of foreign policy and the war on terrorism.


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Sunni Detainees in Government Prison Tortured
By Alisha Ryu
Baghdad
16 November 2005



In an incident that is likely to further aggravate sectarian tensions in Iraq, the country's Shi'ite-led government officials acknowledged Tuesday that nearly 170 mostly Sunni detainees discovered by American troops Sunday inside a Baghdad facility run by the interior ministry have been tortured and abused.

Iraq's Deputy Interior Minister Hussein Kamal says he was stunned by the discovery of the prisoners, living in filthy, cramped conditions and in poor health inside an interior ministry building in the Jadriyah district of Baghdad.

Mr. Kamal says all of the detainees had been treated very badly and some showed clear signs of having been brutally beaten, starved and tortured.

The prisoners were discovered Sunday by American troops, who went to the facility to search for a missing 15 year-old boy, who had been seen inside the prison. The U.S. military says the troops had permission to search the facility, nicknamed "the bunker" because it served as a nuclear bomb shelter during Saddam Hussein's regime.

Officials at the facility initially told the soldiers that there were holding only 40 prisoners. But behind one locked room, the Americans found 165 blindfolded men, most in dire need of medical help. In another windowless room, no bigger than a small bedroom closet, the soldiers found three more men who said they had been locked up in there for at least four months.

VOA was at the facility late Monday when U.S. soldiers transferred the prisoners to another holding facility, to be given medical care while legal teams reviewed their cases. At least a dozen of the prisoners appeared to be severely emaciated and had trouble walking. Others had deep bruises and cuts on their faces, arms, and legs.

Of the 168 prisoners, all but three men were Sunni Arabs, who the interior ministry says were arrested for carrying out terrorist activities and supporting the insurgency.

But Iraq's interior ministry is largely controlled by Shi'ite officials with strong links to the Badr Brigade. The Badr Brigade is a feared Shi'ite militia, whose members received training in Iran to fight against Saddam's Sunni-led regime and to serve as the armed wing to the country's largest Shi'ite political party, the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq.

The interior ministry's ties with the Badr organization has long prompted outrage and complaints from Sunnis that the ministry's security forces were detaining, torturing and killing Sunni Arabs purely for sectarian reasons.

Falah al-Naqib is a Sunni parliament member and former interior minister under the previous interim administration of Iyad Allawi. He says he believes the detention center in Baghdad was a secret prison run by the Badr Brigade, which has infiltrated deep into the interior ministry.

"If you ask anybody in the streets of Baghdad, they would tell you that many people have been brought to this facility," Mr. al-Naqib said. " They have been tortured. They have been killed. Exactly who is running this? I know there is somebody called Engineer Ahmed, which is the guy who runs this facility and is the deputy assistant for intelligence. I believe he is a Badr person."

Iraq's Shi'ite Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari says he has formed a committee to look into the allegations of prisoner abuse and torture. The United States says it is providing technical assistance, including support from U.S. law enforcement agencies, in the investigation.
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Incendiary weapons: The big white lie Independent
US finally admits using white phosphorus in Fallujah - and beyond. Iraqis investigate if civilians were targeted with deadly chemical. The Iraqi government is to investigate the United States military's use of white phosphorus shells during the battle of Fallujah - an inquiry that could reveal whether American forces breached a fundamental international weapons treaty. Iraq's acting Human Rights minister, Narmin Othman, said last night that a team would be dispatched to Fallujah to try to ascertain conclusively whether civilians had been killed or injured by the incendiary weapon. The use of white phosphorus (WP) and other incendiary weapons such as napalm against civilians is prohibited. The announcement came as John Reid, the Secretary of State for Defence, faced mounting calls for an inquiry into the use of WP by British forces as well as what Britain knew about its deployment by American troops. Mr Reid said that he would look into the matter. The move by the Iraqi government and the growing concern at Westminster follows the Pentagon's confirmation to The Independent earlier this week that WP had been used during the battle of Fallujah last November and the presentation of persuasive evidence that civilians had been among the victims. The fresh controversy over Fallujah, which has raged for a full 12 months, was initially sparked last week by a documentary by the Italian state broadcaster, RAI, which claimed there were numerous civilian casualties. A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday he would "not be surprised" if WP had been used by US forces elsewhere in Iraq. Lt-Col Barry Venable said the incendiary shells were a regular part of the troops' munitions. "I would not rule out the possibility that it has been used in other locations." The Pentagon's admission of WP's use - it can burn a person down to the bone - has proved to be a huge embarrassment to some elements of the US government. In a letter to this newspaper, the American ambassador to London, Robert Tuttle, claimed that US forces "do not use napalm or WP as weapons" . Confronted with the Pentagon's admission, an embassy spokesperson said Mr Tuttle would not be commenting further and "all questions on WP" should be referred to the Pentagon. The US embassy in Rome had issued a similar denial. The size or scale of the inquiry to be undertaken by the Iraqi government is unclear, and it is not known when its investigators will arrive in Fallujah. An official with the human rights ministry said that while it was also not known how long the inquiry would take, "the people of Fallujah will be fully consulted". The Pentagon says the use of incendiary weapons against military targets is not prohibited. But the article two, protocol III of the 1980 UN Convention on Certain Weapons bans their use against civilians. Perhaps of crucial importance to the Iraqi investigators, the treaty also restricts their use against military targets "inside a concentration of civilians except when such military objective is clearly separated from the concentration of civilians". Mr Reid confirmed yesterday that British troops had used WP in Iraq, though he said the shells had only been used to make smoke to obscure troops movements, which experts say is their primary function. "Neither it nor any other munitions are used against civilians. It is not a chemical weapon," he said. Speaking at a Nato training exercise in Germany, where he was visiting British troops bound for Afghanistan, Mr Reid said the US's use of WP was a "matter for the US". However, last week Mr Reid indicated that he would raise the issues contained within the RAI documentary if presented with evidence. But last night MPs were openly dismissive of Mr Reid's comments and called for an inquiry, saying they had previously been misled about the US's use of napalm in Iraq. The US had drawn a distinction between conventional napalm and updated Mk 77 firebombs, which experts say are virtually identical. Mike Gapes, the Labour chairman of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, said: "I think there is an issue here about whether the chemical weapons convention should be strengthened to include this particular substance because it is defined as an incendiary not a chemical weapon, therefore it is excluded from certain definitions." Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, said: " The use of this weapon may technically have been legal, but its effects are such that it will hand a propaganda victory to the insurgency. The denial of use followed by the admission will simply convince the doubters that there was something to hide." So far, the fall-out in the US over the revelation has been minimal. But the former president Bill Clinton yesterday told students at the American University of Dubai that he did not agree with invasion of Iraq. The battle of Fallujah, an insurgent stronghold, took place over two weeks last November. It led to the displacement of 300,000 people. Reports from refugee camps and from an Iraqi doctor who stayed in the city during the fighting suggest numerous civilians suffered burns and "melting skin" . Photographs show rows of bodies charred almost beyond recognition.

Chemical legitimately used or a WMD?
What is white phosphorus?
White phosphorus is a highly flammable incendiary material which ignites when exposed to oxygen, and will burn human skin until all the oxygen is used up. A doctor from Fallujah described victims in the US siege "who had their skin melted". White phosphorus, known as WP or Willy Pete in the military, flares in spectacular bursts with a yellow flame when fired from artillery shells and produces dense white smoke. It is used as a smokescreen for troop movements and to illuminate a battlefield.

Is it a chemical weapon?
No. White phosphorus has thermal properties which burn by heating everything around it, rather than chemical properties which attack the body's life systems . It therefore does not fall under the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention. But protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Conventional Weapons bans its use as an incendiary weapon against civilian populations.

So what is all the fuss about?
The US ambassador to London, Robert Tuttle, said in a letter to The Independent that "US forces do not use napalm or phosphorus as a weapon. " The US position was that white phosphorus used as a smokescreen was legitimate - a position outlined by John Reid, the Defence Secretary, yesterday. But a Pentagon statement on Tuesday appears to have shifted the argument. It said that US troops had used the white phosphorus as a weapon against insurgents. The State Department meanwhile corrected a statement, according to which white phosphorus was "fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters". Now the argument focuses on whether those being targeted were insurgents or civilians, and, of course, in a place like Fallujah, this grey area gives the US more of a get-out clause. Humanitarian law distinguishes between combatants and non-combatants. If the white phosphorus was used against insurgents they qualify as combatants and there has been no protocol breach. Both the US and the UK have signed the convention, but Washington declared at the time of the signing of protocol III in 1995 that its military doctrine would abide by the protocol's provisions. These stipulate that the military distinguishes between military and civilian targets.

If it turns out that civilians were killed, what legal recourse is there?
If an Iraqi investigation provides evidence that civilians were killed by white phosphorus as a weapon, there is no recourse under the Conventional Weapons Convention. However, the 1977 first protocol to the Geneva Conventions could be invoked. The United States has signed but not ratified the protocol which relates to the 4th Convention which considers the treatment of civilians. Article 35 of the protocol makes it clear that the use and methods of use of "weapons of warfare are not unlimited." Any weapon or use of weapon that causes "superfluous or unnecessary suffering" is outlawed. The indiscriminate use of phosphorus on a civilian population would be covered. Breaches of the Geneva Conventions are brought by individual countries and are usually heard by the United Nations at Security Council level, or in the International Court of Justice. Peter Carter QC, an expert in international law and chairman of the Bar's human rights committee, said the latest US admissions raised serious concerns about whether white phosphorus was indiscriminately used against civilians. He called for an independent inquiry, possibly through the United Nations, into the use of white phosphorus in Iraq.

Why has all this come out so long after the Fallujah siege?
An Italian television documentary last week, accused the US of using white phosphorus in a "massive and indiscriminate way" against civilians at Fallujah. This was denied by the Pentagon, but witnesses in the US military's Field Artillery magazine described firing '"shake and bake" missions at insurgents and high explosive shells to "take them out". The Independent's coverage of the RAI documentary and fallout prompted a letter from Ambassador Tuttle.

What does the US ambassador say now?
No comment. He referred all questions to the Pentagon.
Anne Penketh and Robert Verkaik

BUSH'S ARSENAL
The allegation
Napalm/Mark 77s
Widespread reports during the initial US-led invasion in March 2003 suggested marines had dropped incendiary bombs over the Tigris river and the Saddam canal on the way to Baghdad.

Cluster bombs
33 civilians, including many children, were reportedly killed in a US cluster bomb attack on Hilla, south of Baghdad. Reports of attacks on Basra were also widespread.

White Phosphorus
Coalition troops were reported to have used WP indiscriminately against civilians and insurgents during the Fallujah offensive of November 2004.

What the US said
Napalm/Mark 77s
The Pentagon denied reports it had used napalm, saying it had last used the weapon in 1993 and destroyed its last batch in 2001. "We don't even have that in our arsenal."

Cluster bombs
General Richard Myers, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said coalition forces dropped nearly 1,500 cluster bombs during the war and only 26 fell within 1,500ft of civilian areas.

White Phosphorus
"[WP was used] very sparingly in Fallujah, for illumination. They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters." US State Department

How the UK backed them up
Napalm/Mark 77s
"The US have confirmed to us they have not used Mk 77 firebombs, essentially napalm canisters, in Iraq at any time." Adam Ingram, Armed Forces minister, January 2004

Cluster bombs
The MoD said it supported the use of cluster bombs against legitimate military targets to protect British troops and civilians, insisting care was taken to avoid populated areas.

White Phosphorus
"Use of phosphorus by the US is a matter for the US," Tony Blair's spokesman said yesterday.

How the US came clean
Napalm/Mark 77s
It took five months for the US to admit its marines had used Mk 77 firebombs (a close relative of napalm) in the invasion. The Pentagon said their functions were "remarkably similar".

Cluster bombs
General Myers admitted: "In some cases, we hit those targets knowing there would be a chance of collateral damage." It was "unfortunate" that "we had to make these choices".

White Phosphorus
Pentagon spokesman Lt-Col Barry Venable said this week that WP had been used, "to fire at the enemy" in Iraq. "It burns... it's an incendiary weapon. That is what it does."

How the UK came clean
Napalm/Mark 77s
"First of all they didn't use napalm. They used a firebomb. It doesn't stick to your skin like napalm, it doesn't have the horrible effects of that. " John Reid, Defence Secretary

Cluster bombs
Adam Ingram, Armed Forces minister, said: "There were troops [and] equipment in and around built-up areas, therefore bombs were used to take out the threat to our troops."

White Phosphorus
The Government maintains it used WP in Iraq only to lay smoke screens. " We do not use white phosphorus against civilians," the Defence Secretary John Reid said.
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Cheney Scolds War Critics as 'Dishonest' Los Angeles Times
Vice President Dick Cheney on Wednesday lashed out at Democrats who accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war , saying such critics were spreading "one of the most dishonest and reprehensible charges ever aired" in Washington. Cheney also suggested that the Democratic attacks could undermine troop morale. "The saddest part is that our people in uniform have been subjected to these cynical and pernicious falsehoods day in and day out," Cheney said in a speech in Washington to a conservative think tank. "American soldiers and Marines are out there every day in dangerous conditions and desert temperatures … and back home a few opportunists are suggesting they were sent into battle for a lie," Cheney said. The vice president's tough words escalated a bitter partisan dispute over the origins of the Iraq war that has become a daily barrage of charges and counter-charges between Senate Democrats and top Bush administration officials, including the president. In two recent speeches, President Bush disputed Democratic charges that the White House had manipulated the available intelligence to build support for invading Iraq. The president said Democrats now leveling accusations had access to the same intelligence he did before they voted to authorize military force in Iraq. On Wednesday evening, Cheney picked up where Bush left off. "What we are hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war," the vice president told the Frontiers of Freedom Institute. Democrats quickly responded to Cheney's speech. "It is hard to name a government official with less credibility on Iraq than Vice President Cheney," said Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.). "The vice president continues to mislead America about how we got into Iraq and what must be done to complete the still unaccomplished mission." Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) joined the criticism. "In the last 24 hours, 10 of our brave soldiers have been killed in far-off Iraq," Reid said. "On such a night, you would think Cheney would give a speech that honors the fallen and those still fighting by laying out a strategy for success. Instead we have the vice president of the United States playing politics like he's in the middle of a presidential campaign." Recent polls show plummeting public support for the war and a parallel slide in Bush's job approval ratings, now at the lowest level of his presidency. The controversy over prewar intelligence has returned the spotlight to the vice president, because it was Cheney who often led the way in presenting the prewar case that Iraq's then-president, Saddam Hussein, presented a threat to the United States. In his speech, Cheney said Democrats had departed from the tradition of adhering to "some basic measure of truthfulness and good faith in the conduct of political debate," adding: "The suggestion that's been made by some U.S. senators that the president of the United States or any member of this administration purposely misled the American people on prewar intelligence is one of the most dishonest and reprehensible charges ever aired in this city." Bush chimed in from his weeklong trip to Asia to support Cheney's aggressive language. Asked during an appearance in South Korea who was right — Cheney for calling the war criticism reprehensible or Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) for saying that questioning one's government is patriotic — Bush appeared perturbed and fired back: "The vice president." "It's irresponsible to use politics," he said. "This is serious business, winning this war. But it's irresponsible to do what [the Democrats have] done."
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Incendiary weapons: The big white lie
US finally admits using white phosphorus in Fallujah - and beyond. Iraqis investigate if civilians were targeted with deadly chemical
Andrew Buncombe in Washington Kim Sengupta in Baghdad and Colin Brown
Published: 17 November 2005
The Iraqi government is to investigate the United States military's use of white phosphorus shells during the battle of Fallujah - an inquiry that could reveal whether American forces breached a fundamental international weapons treaty.

Iraq's acting Human Rights minister, Narmin Othman, said last night that a team would be dispatched to Fallujah to try to ascertain conclusively whether civilians had been killed or injured by the incendiary weapon. The use of white phosphorus (WP) and other incendiary weapons such as napalm against civilians is prohibited.

The announcement came as John Reid, the Secretary of State for Defence, faced mounting calls for an inquiry into the use of WP by British forces as well as what Britain knew about its deployment by American troops. Mr Reid said that he would look into the matter.

The move by the Iraqi government and the growing concern at Westminster follows the Pentagon's confirmation to The Independent earlier this week that WP had been used during the battle of Fallujah last November and the presentation of persuasive evidence that civilians had been among the victims.

The fresh controversy over Fallujah, which has raged for a full 12 months, was initially sparked last week by a documentary by the Italian state broadcaster, RAI, which claimed there were numerous civilian casualties. A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday he would "not be surprised" if WP had been used by US forces elsewhere in Iraq.

Lt-Col Barry Venable said the incendiary shells were a regular part of the troops' munitions. "I would not rule out the possibility that it has been used in other locations." The Pentagon's admission of WP's use - it can burn a person down to the bone - has proved to be a huge embarrassment to some elements of the US government.

In a letter to this newspaper, the American ambassador to London, Robert Tuttle, claimed that US forces "do not use napalm or WP as weapons" .

Confronted with the Pentagon's admission, an embassy spokesperson said Mr Tuttle would not be commenting further and "all questions on WP" should be referred to the Pentagon. The US embassy in Rome had issued a similar denial.

The size or scale of the inquiry to be undertaken by the Iraqi government is unclear, and it is not known when its investigators will arrive in Fallujah. An official with the human rights ministry said that while it was also not known how long the inquiry would take, "the people of Fallujah will be fully consulted". The Pentagon says the use of incendiary weapons against military targets is not prohibited.

But the article two, protocol III of the 1980 UN Convention on Certain Weapons bans their use against civilians.

Perhaps of crucial importance to the Iraqi investigators, the treaty also restricts their use against military targets "inside a concentration of civilians except when such military objective is clearly separated from the concentration of civilians".

Mr Reid confirmed yesterday that British troops had used WP in Iraq, though he said the shells had only been used to make smoke to obscure troops movements, which experts say is their primary function.

"Neither it nor any other munitions are used against civilians. It is not a chemical weapon," he said. Speaking at a Nato training exercise in Germany, where he was visiting British troops bound for Afghanistan, Mr Reid said the US's use of WP was a "matter for the US".

However, last week Mr Reid indicated that he would raise the issues contained within the RAI documentary if presented with evidence.

But last night MPs were openly dismissive of Mr Reid's comments and called for an inquiry, saying they had previously been misled about the US's use of napalm in Iraq. The US had drawn a distinction between conventional napalm and updated Mk 77 firebombs, which experts say are virtually identical.

Mike Gapes, the Labour chairman of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, said: "I think there is an issue here about whether the chemical weapons convention should be strengthened to include this particular substance because it is defined as an incendiary not a chemical weapon, therefore it is excluded from certain definitions."

Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, said: " The use of this weapon may technically have been legal, but its effects are such that it will hand a propaganda victory to the insurgency. The denial of use followed by the admission will simply convince the doubters that there was something to hide." So far, the fall-out in the US over the revelation has been minimal. But the former president Bill Clinton yesterday told students at the American University of Dubai that he did not agree with invasion of Iraq.

The battle of Fallujah, an insurgent stronghold, took place over two weeks last November. It led to the displacement of 300,000 people. Reports from refugee camps and from an Iraqi doctor who stayed in the city during the fighting suggest numerous civilians suffered burns and "melting skin" . Photographs show rows of bodies charred almost beyond recognition.

Chemical legitimately used or a WMD?
What is white phosphorus?

White phosphorus is a highly flammable incendiary material which ignites when exposed to oxygen, and will burn human skin until all the oxygen is used up. A doctor from Fallujah described victims in the US siege "who had their skin melted".

White phosphorus, known as WP or Willy Pete in the military, flares in spectacular bursts with a yellow flame when fired from artillery shells and produces dense white smoke. It is used as a smokescreen for troop movements and to illuminate a battlefield.

Is it a chemical weapon?

No. White phosphorus has thermal properties which burn by heating everything around it, rather than chemical properties which attack the body's life systems . It therefore does not fall under the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention. But protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Conventional Weapons bans its use as an incendiary weapon against civilian populations.

So what is all the fuss about?

The US ambassador to London, Robert Tuttle, said in a letter to The Independent that "US forces do not use napalm or phosphorus as a weapon. " The US position was that white phosphorus used as a smokescreen was legitimate - a position outlined by John Reid, the Defence Secretary, yesterday.

But a Pentagon statement on Tuesday appears to have shifted the argument. It said that US troops had used the white phosphorus as a weapon against insurgents. The State Department meanwhile corrected a statement, according to which white phosphorus was "fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters". Now the argument focuses on whether those being targeted were insurgents or civilians, and, of course, in a place like Fallujah, this grey area gives the US more of a get-out clause.

Humanitarian law distinguishes between combatants and non-combatants. If the white phosphorus was used against insurgents they qualify as combatants and there has been no protocol breach.

Both the US and the UK have signed the convention, but Washington declared at the time of the signing of protocol III in 1995 that its military doctrine would abide by the protocol's provisions. These stipulate that the military distinguishes between military and civilian targets.

If it turns out that civilians were killed, what legal recourse is there?

If an Iraqi investigation provides evidence that civilians were killed by white phosphorus as a weapon, there is no recourse under the Conventional Weapons Convention.

However, the 1977 first protocol to the Geneva Conventions could be invoked. The United States has signed but not ratified the protocol which relates to the 4th Convention which considers the treatment of civilians.

Article 35 of the protocol makes it clear that the use and methods of use of "weapons of warfare are not unlimited." Any weapon or use of weapon that causes "superfluous or unnecessary suffering" is outlawed. The indiscriminate use of phosphorus on a civilian population would be covered.

Breaches of the Geneva Conventions are brought by individual countries and are usually heard by the United Nations at Security Council level, or in the International Court of Justice.

Peter Carter QC, an expert in international law and chairman of the Bar's human rights committee, said the latest US admissions raised serious concerns about whether white phosphorus was indiscriminately used against civilians. He called for an independent inquiry, possibly through the United Nations, into the use of white phosphorus in Iraq.

Why has all this come out so long after the Fallujah siege?

An Italian television documentary last week, accused the US of using white phosphorus in a "massive and indiscriminate way" against civilians at Fallujah.

This was denied by the Pentagon, but witnesses in the US military's Field Artillery magazine described firing '"shake and bake" missions at insurgents and high explosive shells to "take them out". The Independent's coverage of the RAI documentary and fallout prompted a letter from Ambassador Tuttle.

What does the US ambassador say now?

No comment. He referred all questions to the Pentagon.

Anne Penketh and Robert Verkaik

BUSH'S ARSENAL
The allegation

Napalm/Mark 77s

Widespread reports during the initial US-led invasion in March 2003 suggested marines had dropped incendiary bombs over the Tigris river and the Saddam canal on the way to Baghdad.

Cluster bombs

33 civilians, including many children, were reportedly killed in a US cluster bomb attack on Hilla, south of Baghdad. Reports of attacks on Basra were also widespread.

White Phosphorus

Coalition troops were reported to have used WP indiscriminately against civilians and insurgents during the Fallujah offensive of November 2004.

What the US said

Napalm/Mark 77s

The Pentagon denied reports it had used napalm, saying it had last used the weapon in 1993 and destroyed its last batch in 2001. "We don't even have that in our arsenal."

Cluster bombs

General Richard Myers, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said coalition forces dropped nearly 1,500 cluster bombs during the war and only 26 fell within 1,500ft of civilian areas.

White Phosphorus

"[WP was used] very sparingly in Fallujah, for illumination. They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters." US State Department

How the UK backed them up

Napalm/Mark 77s

"The US have confirmed to us they have not used Mk 77 firebombs, essentially napalm canisters, in Iraq at any time." Adam Ingram, Armed Forces minister, January 2004

Cluster bombs

The MoD said it supported the use of cluster bombs against legitimate military targets to protect British troops and civilians, insisting care was taken to avoid populated areas.

White Phosphorus

"Use of phosphorus by the US is a matter for the US," Tony Blair's spokesman said yesterday.

How the US came clean

Napalm/Mark 77s

It took five months for the US to admit its marines had used Mk 77 firebombs (a close relative of napalm) in the invasion. The Pentagon said their functions were "remarkably similar".

Cluster bombs

General Myers admitted: "In some cases, we hit those targets knowing there would be a chance of collateral damage." It was "unfortunate" that "we had to make these choices".

White Phosphorus

Pentagon spokesman Lt-Col Barry Venable said this week that WP had been used, "to fire at the enemy" in Iraq. "It burns... it's an incendiary weapon. That is what it does."

How the UK came clean

Napalm/Mark 77s

"First of all they didn't use napalm. They used a firebomb. It doesn't stick to your skin like napalm, it doesn't have the horrible effects of that. " John Reid, Defence Secretary

Cluster bombs

Adam Ingram, Armed Forces minister, said: "There were troops [and] equipment in and around built-up areas, therefore bombs were used to take out the threat to our troops."

White Phosphorus

The Government maintains it used WP in Iraq only to lay smoke screens. " We do not use white phosphorus against civilians," the Defence Secretary John Reid said.

The Iraqi government is to investigate the United States military's use of white phosphorus shells during the battle of Fallujah - an inquiry that could reveal whether American forces breached a fundamental international weapons treaty.

Iraq's acting Human Rights minister, Narmin Othman, said last night that a team would be dispatched to Fallujah to try to ascertain conclusively whether civilians had been killed or injured by the incendiary weapon. The use of white phosphorus (WP) and other incendiary weapons such as napalm against civilians is prohibited.

The announcement came as John Reid, the Secretary of State for Defence, faced mounting calls for an inquiry into the use of WP by British forces as well as what Britain knew about its deployment by American troops. Mr Reid said that he would look into the matter.

The move by the Iraqi government and the growing concern at Westminster follows the Pentagon's confirmation to The Independent earlier this week that WP had been used during the battle of Fallujah last November and the presentation of persuasive evidence that civilians had been among the victims.

The fresh controversy over Fallujah, which has raged for a full 12 months, was initially sparked last week by a documentary by the Italian state broadcaster, RAI, which claimed there were numerous civilian casualties. A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday he would "not be surprised" if WP had been used by US forces elsewhere in Iraq.

Lt-Col Barry Venable said the incendiary shells were a regular part of the troops' munitions. "I would not rule out the possibility that it has been used in other locations." The Pentagon's admission of WP's use - it can burn a person down to the bone - has proved to be a huge embarrassment to some elements of the US government.

In a letter to this newspaper, the American ambassador to London, Robert Tuttle, claimed that US forces "do not use napalm or WP as weapons" .

Confronted with the Pentagon's admission, an embassy spokesperson said Mr Tuttle would not be commenting further and "all questions on WP" should be referred to the Pentagon. The US embassy in Rome had issued a similar denial.

The size or scale of the inquiry to be undertaken by the Iraqi government is unclear, and it is not known when its investigators will arrive in Fallujah. An official with the human rights ministry said that while it was also not known how long the inquiry would take, "the people of Fallujah will be fully consulted". The Pentagon says the use of incendiary weapons against military targets is not prohibited.

But the article two, protocol III of the 1980 UN Convention on Certain Weapons bans their use against civilians.

Perhaps of crucial importance to the Iraqi investigators, the treaty also restricts their use against military targets "inside a concentration of civilians except when such military objective is clearly separated from the concentration of civilians".

Mr Reid confirmed yesterday that British troops had used WP in Iraq, though he said the shells had only been used to make smoke to obscure troops movements, which experts say is their primary function.

"Neither it nor any other munitions are used against civilians. It is not a chemical weapon," he said. Speaking at a Nato training exercise in Germany, where he was visiting British troops bound for Afghanistan, Mr Reid said the US's use of WP was a "matter for the US".

However, last week Mr Reid indicated that he would raise the issues contained within the RAI documentary if presented with evidence.

But last night MPs were openly dismissive of Mr Reid's comments and called for an inquiry, saying they had previously been misled about the US's use of napalm in Iraq. The US had drawn a distinction between conventional napalm and updated Mk 77 firebombs, which experts say are virtually identical.

Mike Gapes, the Labour chairman of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, said: "I think there is an issue here about whether the chemical weapons convention should be strengthened to include this particular substance because it is defined as an incendiary not a chemical weapon, therefore it is excluded from certain definitions."

Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, said: " The use of this weapon may technically have been legal, but its effects are such that it will hand a propaganda victory to the insurgency. The denial of use followed by the admission will simply convince the doubters that there was something to hide." So far, the fall-out in the US over the revelation has been minimal. But the former president Bill Clinton yesterday told students at the American University of Dubai that he did not agree with invasion of Iraq.

The battle of Fallujah, an insurgent stronghold, took place over two weeks last November. It led to the displacement of 300,000 people. Reports from refugee camps and from an Iraqi doctor who stayed in the city during the fighting suggest numerous civilians suffered burns and "melting skin" . Photographs show rows of bodies charred almost beyond recognition.

Chemical legitimately used or a WMD?
What is white phosphorus?

White phosphorus is a highly flammable incendiary material which ignites when exposed to oxygen, and will burn human skin until all the oxygen is used up. A doctor from Fallujah described victims in the US siege "who had their skin melted".

White phosphorus, known as WP or Willy Pete in the military, flares in spectacular bursts with a yellow flame when fired from artillery shells and produces dense white smoke. It is used as a smokescreen for troop movements and to illuminate a battlefield.

Is it a chemical weapon?

No. White phosphorus has thermal properties which burn by heating everything around it, rather than chemical properties which attack the body's life systems . It therefore does not fall under the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention. But protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Conventional Weapons bans its use as an incendiary weapon against civilian populations.

So what is all the fuss about?

The US ambassador to London, Robert Tuttle, said in a letter to The Independent that "US forces do not use napalm or phosphorus as a weapon. " The US position was that white phosphorus used as a smokescreen was legitimate - a position outlined by John Reid, the Defence Secretary, yesterday.

But a Pentagon statement on Tuesday appears to have shifted the argument. It said that US troops had used the white phosphorus as a weapon against insurgents. The State Department meanwhile corrected a statement, according to which white phosphorus was "fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters". Now the argument focuses on whether those being targeted were insurgents or civilians, and, of course, in a place like Fallujah, this grey area gives the US more of a get-out clause.
Humanitarian law distinguishes between combatants and non-combatants. If the white phosphorus was used against insurgents they qualify as combatants and there has been no protocol breach.

Both the US and the UK have signed the convention, but Washington declared at the time of the signing of protocol III in 1995 that its military doctrine would abide by the protocol's provisions. These stipulate that the military distinguishes between military and civilian targets.

If it turns out that civilians were killed, what legal recourse is there?

If an Iraqi investigation provides evidence that civilians were killed by white phosphorus as a weapon, there is no recourse under the Conventional Weapons Convention.

However, the 1977 first protocol to the Geneva Conventions could be invoked. The United States has signed but not ratified the protocol which relates to the 4th Convention which considers the treatment of civilians.

Article 35 of the protocol makes it clear that the use and methods of use of "weapons of warfare are not unlimited." Any weapon or use of weapon that causes "superfluous or unnecessary suffering" is outlawed. The indiscriminate use of phosphorus on a civilian population would be covered.

Breaches of the Geneva Conventions are brought by individual countries and are usually heard by the United Nations at Security Council level, or in the International Court of Justice.

Peter Carter QC, an expert in international law and chairman of the Bar's human rights committee, said the latest US admissions raised serious concerns about whether white phosphorus was indiscriminately used against civilians. He called for an independent inquiry, possibly through the United Nations, into the use of white phosphorus in Iraq.

Why has all this come out so long after the Fallujah siege?

An Italian television documentary last week, accused the US of using white phosphorus in a "massive and indiscriminate way" against civilians at Fallujah.

This was denied by the Pentagon, but witnesses in the US military's Field Artillery magazine described firing '"shake and bake" missions at insurgents and high explosive shells to "take them out". The Independent's coverage of the RAI documentary and fallout prompted a letter from Ambassador Tuttle.

What does the US ambassador say now?

No comment. He referred all questions to the Pentagon.

Anne Penketh and Robert Verkaik

BUSH'S ARSENAL
The allegation

Napalm/Mark 77s

Widespread reports during the initial US-led invasion in March 2003 suggested marines had dropped incendiary bombs over the Tigris river and the Saddam canal on the way to Baghdad.

Cluster bombs

33 civilians, including many children, were reportedly killed in a US cluster bomb attack on Hilla, south of Baghdad. Reports of attacks on Basra were also widespread.

White Phosphorus

Coalition troops were reported to have used WP indiscriminately against civilians and insurgents during the Fallujah offensive of November 2004.

What the US said

Napalm/Mark 77s

The Pentagon denied reports it had used napalm, saying it had last used the weapon in 1993 and destroyed its last batch in 2001. "We don't even have that in our arsenal."

Cluster bombs

General Richard Myers, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said coalition forces dropped nearly 1,500 cluster bombs during the war and only 26 fell within 1,500ft of civilian areas.

White Phosphorus

"[WP was used] very sparingly in Fallujah, for illumination. They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters." US State Department

How the UK backed them up

Napalm/Mark 77s

"The US have confirmed to us they have not used Mk 77 firebombs, essentially napalm canisters, in Iraq at any time." Adam Ingram, Armed Forces minister, January 2004

Cluster bombs

The MoD said it supported the use of cluster bombs against legitimate military targets to protect British troops and civilians, insisting care was taken to avoid populated areas.

White Phosphorus

"Use of phosphorus by the US is a matter for the US," Tony Blair's spokesman said yesterday.

How the US came clean

Napalm/Mark 77s

It took five months for the US to admit its marines had used Mk 77 firebombs (a close relative of napalm) in the invasion. The Pentagon said their functions were "remarkably similar".

Cluster bombs

General Myers admitted: "In some cases, we hit those targets knowing there would be a chance of collateral damage." It was "unfortunate" that "we had to make these choices".

White Phosphorus

Pentagon spokesman Lt-Col Barry Venable said this week that WP had been used, "to fire at the enemy" in Iraq. "It burns... it's an incendiary weapon. That is what it does."

How the UK came clean

Napalm/Mark 77s

"First of all they didn't use napalm. They used a firebomb. It doesn't stick to your skin like napalm, it doesn't have the horrible effects of that. " John Reid, Defence Secretary

Cluster bombs

Adam Ingram, Armed Forces minister, said: "There were troops [and] equipment in and around built-up areas, therefore bombs were used to take out the threat to our troops."

White Phosphorus

The Government maintains it used WP in Iraq only to lay smoke screens. " We do not use white phosphorus against civilians," the Defence Secretary John Reid said.
Snuffysmith
Bipartisan Consensus Emerging For Change Of Course In Iraq
http://www.spacewar.com/news/iraq-05zzzzzx.html

Washington (UPI) Nov 16, 2005 - An emerging bipartisan consensus on Iraq is designed to remove the conduct of the war from the nothing-short-of-total-victory hawks in the administration, and place an exit strategy under the control of the Senate. So spoke Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., at a special meeting of the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington on Tuesday.


Five US Marines Killed In Iraq
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Snuffysmith
10 U.S. casualties in Iraq as public swings against war :

A USA Today/CNN/Gallup poll released Wednesday said 54 percent of Americans want US troops withdrawn from Iraq within the next 12 months.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051117/wl_af...aq_051117083847
Snuffysmith
Influential House Democrat Wants Immediate Iraq Withdrawal :

An influential House Democrat called the Iraq campaign "a flawed policy wrapped in illusion" today as he called for the immediate withdrawal of United States troops. "Our military is suffering, the future of our country is at risk."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11052.htm
Snuffysmith
Bush backs Cheney: says Democratic questioning not patriotic but "irresponsible" :

President Bush says it's not patriotic for Democrats to question his use of pre-Iraq-war intelligence, it's "irresponsible."
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Snuffysmith
Among Insurgents in Iraq, Few Foreigners Are Found:

Analysis of offensive in Tall Afar suggests U.S., Iraq may be inflating foreign role in insurgency.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11040.htm
Snuffysmith
Mother blames policy for son's Iraq injuries :

"Stop-Loss is a very ugly lie," she said. "They drafted my son so he could go over there and get blown up."
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/7210522p-7122975c.html
Snuffysmith
Baghdad Burning: Iraqi Girl Blog: Conventional Terror...:

Few Iraqis ever doubted the American use of chemical weapons in Falloojeh. We’ve been hearing the terrifying stories of people burnt to the bone for well over a year now. I just didn’t want it confirmed
http://tinyurl.com/76cma
Snuffysmith
How the Pentagon Justifies Phosphorous Bombs on Fallujah:

In Post Saddam Iraq, There are No Civilians
http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff11172005.html
Snuffysmith
Torture photos fuel scandal of secret Iraqi jail :

Graphic photographs of injuries allegedly suffered by detainees in Iraqi custody surfaced today as the government attempted to dismiss international criticism over a secret torture prison.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11047.htm
Snuffysmith
Torture Photos gathered from contacts in Iraq:

- WARNING -

These pictures are very disturbing and should only be viewed by a mature audience
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11047.htm
Snuffysmith
International outcry greets allegations of police abuse :

Seif Saad, an Iraqi guard, showed no remorse yesterday for the detention and alleged abuse of 173 prisoners in Baghdad. "We placed sacks on their heads and tied their hands behind their backs," he said of their arrests, but, as far as he was concerned, they were suspected terrorists.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11050.htm
Snuffysmith
Iraqi says he was held with hundreds in secret jail:

An Iraqi man told on Thursday how he was tortured along with hundreds of other detainees in an Interior Ministry building similar to a secret bunker at the centre of a prisoner abuse scandal.
hhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11046.htm
Snuffysmith
On the spot: 'torture prison is tip of the iceberg':

Everyone knows someone to whom this has happened.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11049.htm
Snuffysmith
White House blamed for Iraq abuses :

The former US commander of Abu Ghraib prison says that she was held up unfairly as a scapegoat by "male warriors", but the real blame for the abuse scandal rests with military leaders and the White House.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FAC...E9F60AAB609.htm
Snuffysmith
American Faces Charge of Graft for Work in Iraq :

An American has been charged with paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes and kickbacks to American occupation authorities and their spouses to obtain construction contracts, according to a complaint unsealed late yesterday.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11048.htm
Snuffysmith
Saddam 'punched by court clerks' :

Saddam Hussein was attacked by two court clerks while undergoing questioning for his trial, Iraqi television has reported.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4444408.stm
theglobalchinese
Iraqi bombings kill dozens Globe and Mail
Two suicide car bombers detonated vehicles Friday near a hotel housing foreign journalists -- the second attack on international media in less than a month -- killing at least eight people and injuring 43, Iraqi police and U.S. troops said. Also on Friday, two suicide bombers detonated themselves inside a Shiite mosque in a largely Kurdish town near the Iranian border, killing at least 52 people and injuring dozens more, Iraqi army Colonel Hazim al-Sudani said. The suicide attackers targeted the Sheik Murad Shiite mosque in Khanaqin, 140 kilometres northeast of Baghdad, at 12:55 p.m. as dozens of people were attending the Friday prayers, police and the Iraqi army reported said.
2 car bombs kill at least 2 Iraqis in Baghdad Xinhua
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US House Rejects Resolution on Troop Withdrawal From Iraq Bloomberg
The US House overwhelmingly rejected a resolution on whether to immediately withdraw US troops from Iraq, a symbolic proposal made by Republicans to demonstrate the idea has scant support. Democrats called the resolution a sham and an unrealistic option. The Republican proposal called for an immediate withdrawal, a position they don't support and which Democrats said doesn't reflect a view advocated by prominent House Democrat John Murtha, a decorated Vietnam veteran who served 37 years in the Marines and Reserves. Republicans, who outnumber Democrats in the House 231-202, made the resolution just a day after Murtha said that U.S. troops should immediately begin to exit Iraq. That would give Iraqi forces an incentive to take command, he said at a Capitol Hill news conference. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California called the Republican proposal a "political stunt,'' "a disservice to our country'' and an "insult'' to Murtha. Lawmakers in both parties urged defeat of the measure as the protracted debate became a vehicle for lawmakers to deliver speeches about the war. The proposal was voted down 403-3 after more than seven hours of fervent arguments. The vote forced lawmakers to choose whether keeping U.S. troops in Iraq should "be terminated immediately.'' The aim was "to make sure that we support our troops that are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan,'' House Speaker Dennis Hastert told reporters before the vote. Under Murtha's plan, the roughly 160,000 U.S. forces in Iraq would begin to redeploy right away "consistent with the safety of U.S. forces.''

Impassioned Debate
Democrats were incensed by the Republicans' tactic. Debate on the floor of the House was animated and impassioned, with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle at times taunting their opponents and cheering their allies. There were conciliatory moments too. The chamber stood in applause several times to show support for U.S. forces stationed overseas and for Murtha. "There is no place for politics on either side,'' said Bill Young, a Florida Republican and chairman of the House defense spending committee. "In case there is any doubt we want you to vote no. This is not a good resolution.'' Murtha, 73, the first Vietnam War veteran to serve in Congress and the top Democrat on the defense spending panel, voted in favor of invading Iraq. While he's been increasingly critical of President George W. Bush's handling of the war, his impassioned call yesterday surprised members of his own party as well as Republicans and it stoked the increasingly fiery debate over conflict.

Escalating Debate
Arguments over the March 2003 invasion have escalated in recent weeks as opinion polls show a majority of Americans say the war was a mistake. The Republican-controlled Senate on Nov. 15 called on Bush to explain his strategy for withdrawing U.S. troops and report every three months on progress toward that goal. Bush today rejected calls to withdraw U.S. troops soon from Iraq, saying he relies on the "sober judgment'' of military officers who advise that leaving before the terrorists are defeated would be a mistake. "We will fight the terrorists in Iraq, and we will stay in the fight until we have achieved the victory our brave troops have fought and bled for,'' Bush said in the text of a speech he's scheduled to give later today to soldiers and airmen at Osan Air Base in South Korea. Murtha, of Pennsylvania, said yesterday that he'd introduce his troop-withdrawal measure soon and that U.S. forces could about entirely out of Iraq in as soon as six months. It would call for creation of a "quick-reaction force'' in or near Iraq as well as an "over-the-horizon presence of Marines'' and would call for the U.S. to pursue security and stability in Iraq through diplomacy.
House GOP Calls for Vote On Proposed Iraq Pullout Washington Post
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Suicide bombers hit Shi'ite mosques Mail & Guardian Online
At least 73 worshippers were killed on Friday in suicide attacks on two Shi'ite mosques in an eastern town near the border with Iran, the latest deadly strike by rebels on Iraq's majority religious group. The attack in the Shi'ite Kurdish town of Khanaqin, which came just hours after suicide bombers killed six people outside a Baghdad hotel, destroyed the two mosques, according to the interior ministry, and left 85 people wounded.
Suicide Bombers Kill 80 During Prayers at Mosques Los Angeles Times
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