We know very well that the world has many easily solvable problems. Starvation, genocide, wars, global-warming. We know that our leaders are not interested in solving them. We know that NASA can afford to use hard-earned tax-payers dollars to fund their all important Space Mission. One day, who knows, they may find another planet to send the elite bloodlines to so that they can survive after they have destroyed this planet, against Biblical teachings. We know they are both cunning and ruthless.

We know they believe in torture and unfair trade. We know their aims: reduce the world's population by two thirds, take away your rights to defend yourselves, bring on a One World Government, have everyone living in cities except a few fat farmers with big subsidies and large machines, have a One World Currency, ignore your votes and put in the people they want, take away every single countries Sovereignty, 'take out' dissenters by suiciding them, crashing their planes, or causing traffic accidents.

Let me say I am a Faithful Catholic, though a sinner. I believe in Christ. They aim to to make us disillusioned because our religions are complicit in mass murder and conspiracies. They will try and bring all denominations together by renouncing Canon Laws and the Catekism (sp?) - Church Teaching.

They aim to prove that Christ did not exist, or that Christians are responsible for all the holocausts in the world. They aim to have us Muslims Jews and Christians mutually destroy each other - that is why they always get rid of moderate leaders everywhere and allow (even help) extremists.

They aim to make us all doubt our various faiths and decide to worship someone or some thing that is not God. Something that is not good. They already have our young men and women murdering Iraqis and selling their souls to the devil.

Now, just bare with me for a second. If they aim to go and live on another planet, then we have to reassess the theories of human development from Evolution or the Creation theory. We have to consider the possibility that certain highly developed, extremely clever people did this on a distant planet some time ago. This has to be a logical theory in the light of all the above. Which means that UFOs, the X-files and a totally different theory of our origins MUST BE CONSIDERED AN OUTSIDE POSSIBILITY AT LEAST.

The Catholic Church already, many years ago, forsook the story of Creation for the probability that Genesis was a myth. This is not to say that the other historical books were myths at all. But Jesus used parables, stories with a message to explain what was too difficult for the poor, illiterate people He talked to.

We have to believe that the aim of NASA is to discover planets so that the species can survive when the elite families of this world have destroyed it, whether by Global warming or by Nuclear war: whichever comes first.

We have to be like charismatic Christians, or Buddhists, and realize how tiny and insignificant our planet is compared to the size of the Universe - which always make me go loopy to think about. But we also have to realize that some of us still have our souls and will never surrender to the evils that we are being asked to accept.

HEY!!! Even 3 and 5 year olds act better then that

Wasn't this the theme of one of the Star Trek: TNG movies? I know I enjoyed watching it, whatever it was.

The fear I see among some concerning a NWO and the UN always seem to me as people that have watched either too much (I fit in here) or too little Star Trek and its hope for the future.

Hollywood is great at giving the show away. But they do not go the whole way...and talk about the very real possibilities that aliens have actually landed on our planet either recently or long, long ago. I find it hard to accept evolution. The reason is that only man's interference with nature - through pollution of water - has had any visible effect on creatures. I don't think this planet is as old as they say it is. All theories are just that - theories. I am not a great Star Wars fan, because I love true stories. But when I did see Star Wars 2 (I think) - I noticed the similaritiy to the Bible in it. Perhaps Hollywood copies reality and is not fiction - I think the producers of films always know more than they let on. Perhaps they are not allowed to tell the audience the ACTUAL truth, even in parody, or satire. Look up JFK SUBLIMINALS. It is interesting.

Now why do you think those crazies and power-grabbing manipulators want to shut down Hollywood and made Hollywood Liberal with creative talents and imagination disintigrate into thin air? Dumbing down human creatures and brain-washed them into behaving like robots - gullible and mass-thinkers with braincells connected to the the fundamentalits' one-way channel wavelength.

It's really shocking to think that thinking persons could ever believe everything coming out of the condescending American Family Association, those consevatives like Coulter, Pat Robertson, Dobson, Donohue, Limbaugh, Scarborough, and Hannity squealing. They really know how to train human beings into mass-behaving robots!

Don't you agree television also achieved that? Hollywood probably is a kind of opium to keep the masses happy with their lot. You could also say the Harry Potter books and the Da Vinci Code were to keep intelligent people off thinking about reality and why things are as they are. (Dan Brown says on the internet that the Illuminati do not exist!!! No wonder because he is in a secretive and elitist society himself.)

Hey, Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code and the Harry Potter films are meant to be fiction. No case to dispute unless they claim them to be documentaries. I hope we are not getting so dumb as not to be able to separate fiction from documented facts, and vice versa. Besides movies belong to the Entertaining industry to entertain viewers. It's our News media that are confusing viewers and making their brains incapable of separating news from entertainment, and vice versa. Hollywood has never, ever claimed that films ever been classified as "NEWS". As far as I can remember, they all come under the Entertainment industry. Let's not be as confused as those so-called authorities on news reports and can't separate entertaining from news.

My whole idea of going to movies is to take time off and be entertained, nothing more, nothing less. And I did enjoy reading Brown's fiction book "Da Vinci Code" a lot. Fun reading, so much so I can't wait to watch the film. Besides, I've found Tom Hank's and Audrey Tautou's performances very entertaining in pretty much all the films they were in.

Yes, I realized that Da Vinci Code was fiction, as, of course, are Harry Potter books, but there were a lot of people who believed Dan Brown so much that they went/go on holiday to the places mentioned. By the way, I have not read either. But I heard that Salman Rushdie (no comment) thought that the Da Vinci Code was so badly written that it ''made bad books look good''. (See wikipedia of Da Vinci Code at the bottom.) The Harry Potter books were supposed to make children keen on reading and apparently worked, or was it the tremendous publicity she got? Anyway they also have the affect of making children feel good about magic etc. which I would argue is not such a good thing. (But I would never ban them for a child of mine.) The thing that Dan Brown is not honest about is the secret society stuff. He writes about the Illuminati, in fact if you google illuminati - his essay is about no. 1. He says that they were officially closed by some king or someone in Bavaria and no longer exist. This is not true. Conspiracy theories may wildly differ on a lot of things but they all seem to agree that the illuminati are alive and well and making use of secret societies or secretive societies like the freemasons and the Knights and the Old Boys' Clubs and possible the elite Lords and Life peers of Britain, etc. etc.

I tried to read one of the Harry Potter books but it was not written so wonderfully that I could be bothered to finish it. It made me wonder if mass hysteria was being practised, as in Princess Diana's death, or the Japanese fads that they have for various products that hit the market. :do

Oh yes, and JFK and many other films DO claim to be true, numerous ones. I wonder if this is a way of COVERING the truth, especially when the authorities won't even go so far as JFK went. They never admitted to CIA involvement in JFK's death, which is what the film clearly sites as the actual truth, and most people believe the film.

Believe me -- if they had the technology to travel to a planet around some distant star and colonize it, they would have the technology to fix most of our problems right here on earth. I don't think you have any concept of how hugely expensive space travel is -- even in our extremely limited form of just circling our earth a few times in the shuttle. It probably costs a million dollars a pound to get something into orbit.


I think Paul Simon had it right when he said "a loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires"... No vast conspiracy -- just a bunch of smaller ones as the big boys continually jockey for position.

If you've been at a Q&A with the film's Director, Oliver Stone, or have heard his interviews, you would understand that the script was based on Jim Garrison's book, "On the Trial of Assassins." The film's intention is clear - as with most of Stone's films: to realize that we are all vulnerable and gullible and that we all live in a society that does typically cover up truths, and that facts are really hard to retrieve. As a result, speculation - Stone's point really - inherently runs wild. There's not a single remark in the film that it represents the truth or that the contents are factual. Stone is a genius for provoking up controversies with his creativity to stir up debates in order that people actually would start searching for real facts, rather than rely on given 'brain-washing' materials. His film has certainly spurred up interest not to treat JFK's assasination as a closed case - something that Stone must have hoped would happen - just being at his Q&A session. Because of his film, we're still hearing of on going investigations. Film-makers entertain the viewers with ideas, but not facts. We have to keep searching for the facts! They inspire one to think and not accept anything or everything as gospel truth. That's what creative minds do... make you think, not force you to be gullible.

Yes, you are probably right. But at one time, I think, in good ol' England, they executed people who said the earth was round. That was a bit harsh. Also, I would be able to live with the fact that say in the 50's or whenever it was, UFOs landed in the USA and it was covered up by NASA because it might shake peoples' belief in God. We, Christians and the many other faiths, managed to survive with the planet being round and Evolution. Any other surprises? Who knows? Why does George Bush look like Prince Charles. ? Same sticky out ears, same close together blue eyes - same bloodline? Maybe all these wars in the world are actually wars between competing blood lines going back to the Pyramids.

Which brings me right back to the beginning. The fact is that there is a conspiracy to keep Africa poor, it is a fact that is apparent when you read many articles saying that there is enough food to feed the world and enough money to go around if it was fairly divided up. (Basically you can call me a Marxist if you like, although I am not). The fact that easily solvable problems are not solved, in fact they conspire to make wars (Psalm 2) which make further problems and cover up the genocides going on elsewhere by diverting the media's attention.

There was this word on the tip of my tongue but I could not recall it, then I remembered it came up when I was looking up about Beslan for my thread. Blood feud. So I googled North Ossetia blood feud and got this really interesting history of modern man by a chap writing on his eXile website. It is really interesting and sounds very like it is true history. (This has nothing to do with anything - I just thought it a very good site.)

Before that I came to another site 'Gendercide.org' by googling 'blood killings'. Go down past the horrible bit about honour killings (unless you want to feel sick) to blood feud and it talks about Kosovo.

All this makes you think a lot. When NATO goes and bombs indiscriminately - men, women, children, they really are poking a hornet's nest. It makes you understand that the Beslan massacre was REALLY intended to start a war of the West versus Russia. The West would, of course, win. Only Putin's endurance and hardness has saved his country.

Not that anyone will probibly watch it but there is a Q&A type interview with Oliver Stone I found on google video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=74...62&q=conspiracy

Easily solved from a technical viewpoint. I take it you are too young to have ever been in a company meeting of any type, where 10 adults can't even decide on what kind of donuts to order, and each has a vested interest in defending his or her own turf.

Some people have never been in a company meeting at all.
Don't mean they don't know what they are talking about though. Some of the people down here in the salt mines actually see things as they are. Instead of looking at life as the television dictates most people to think. I don't watch much television anymore. I remember a long time ago when the older folkes talked about how television was the start of the Moral Downfall of Society.
Ya know what ?
They were right.

MR Jim, I only went to a church meeting which I was invited to, to discuss Renewal. I cycled three quarters of an hour to the station to catch two trains to get there. Once there I realized I had been invited to let me know who was boss. I was hardly given the chance to speak, when I did get to speak what I had to say was not very nice, I was trying to tell them that a female from a different country to them was entitled to speak. I was absolutely disgusted. It was like I had intruded on their Magic Circle. They are controlling the Church and we need to fight to get it back. I mean groups like Knights of Malta and Opus Dei. It is all done through these various networks. Not everyone in them realizes what the real purpose of these groups is.

By contrast, if you have taught in a school, they always welcome peoples' input at staff meetings. They also manage to get things done because the Head tells them what to do and leaves it to the staff to carry it out. The problems of this world are not solved because their is no will to solve them from the bottom of the social pyramid. Supposing 100 people in your area wrote to their Representative and complained about a thing. That representative might think. If this was repeated all over the country, the government might act. At least, they might bring up the problem to the other representatives, and we could soon see who the obstructers, as I call them, are.

Simple Solution lazyboy,
Call them out to the floor and tell them what's right and wrong.
Then , denounce them all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organised Religion is A Scam !!!!!!!!!!!
Another "wedge" to drive between People.
If your religious , read your bible!
Let No Man Decieve You For many will come in my name (Bush).

Wolves in Sheeps clothing.

Christians can open their Bible at any page and see that George W amBush is not a Christian. The very thing that all the prophets said was happening in those days is happening today - the injustice, the denial of basic rights, the torture, the bombing, the invading of countries that were no threat to the USA, the cabal that makes all the decisions in White House, the plotting, the lying, the disgraceful lack of respect to sovereignty from 1992 onwards, the hypocrisy of not intervening to help in Ruanda and Darfur whilst at the same time invading and killing innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan and Iraq, the jailing of innocent Muslim leaders, their lawyers and interpreters for simply existing....just open your Bible people...anywhere...it is all going on and Judah and Israel (Britain and USA claim to be these) will be PUNISHED BADLY.
God does not want SHOWA (holocausts) but MERCY.