This is a joint effort of ACTIVISMS & PAINEINTHEARSE.

Earlier today, Activisms posted a story about voter fraud in the Tampa area – see target='_blank'>


http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/for...wtopic=4570&hl=

I did not see a link and wanted to read the story at the source, so I Google news’d the reporter’s byline: “By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer” and got nine hits, none of which were Activism’s story.

(by the way, I emailed Mr. Dennis additional information from BlackBox.Org to use in the future)

The nine hits:

Results 1 - 9 of 9 for BRADY DENNIS Times Staff Writer. (0.22 seconds)

Lowry Park to ask City Council to increase zoo's admission prices ...
St. Petersburg Times, FL - 7 hours ago
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Soon patrons might have to reach deeper into their wallets for a stroll around Lowry Park Zoo. ...

Saluting his hero, his son
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 11, 2004
Gregg Garvey isn't going to wait to honor the memory of those who died in Iraq, and is working to ensure no one does. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer.

Fall drops hints and temperatures
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 5, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - When autumn finally arrives in Florida, it announces itself with a whisper rather than a shout. ...

In Tampa, Kerry blasts Bush
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 18, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. Sen. John Kerry, on a campaign swing through Florida, scolded President Bush for his "arrogant ...

A slice of relief
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 30, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. PENSACOLA - A cool, perfect autumn evening, and yet so many people walking the midway look weary. ...

Long-gone hurricanes threaten voter turnout
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 1, 2004
Storm-ravaged areas that went for the president in 2000 are still recovering, adding to election uncertainty. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. ...

Campaigning with Leonardo DiCaprio
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 20, 2004
He wanted to talk about the environment in Tampa. His adoring fans had other ideas. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Just ...

Crews making last pass to pick up storm debris
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 22, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Slowly but surely, the piles of debris are disappearing. So are the chances to get them picked up for free. ...

Beautiful noise
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 20, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. They meet every evening in the yard of the old abandoned house on St. Louis Street. Boys come ...

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Activism’s original story:

Florida results are clear off the chart..., Massive tabulator tampering in Escambia

By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer
Published November 16, 2004

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Like the hurricane that plowed through in September, the news that Escambia County had posted the highest voter turnout in the state on Nov. 2 lasted barely a day.

In the wake of the election, records showed that 84.9 percent of the storm-ravaged county's 189,833 voters cast ballots, well above the average state turnout of 72 percent.

Not true.

A problem with the way tabulation machines feed information into the computer system caused an inaccurate number, said Bonnie Jones, Escambia's supervisor of elections.

While the machines accurately counted the number of absentee votes, they began feeding an incorrect result into the office's computers, she said.

"It skewed the total vote," Jones said.

Elections officials noticed the problem almost immediately when the system showed that no one had voted yes on Amendments 7 and 8. That, she said, was a glaring error.

After they figured out the problem, workers manually added the absentee totals into the reporting system, Jones said, and she called the state Division of Elections to report what had happened.

The final result: 75.6 percent, or 143,559, of the county's voters actually turned out for the election, still above the state average. That seemed more normal.

"I had said 75 to 80 percent (would turn out)," Jones said.

As of Monday, the honor that Escambia County once held fell to Flagler County, according to state records. There, 81.9 percent of the 47,068 registered voters cast ballots.

Sarasota County came in a close second at 81.6 percent turnout among its 240,592 registered voters."

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The story is still at the newspaper’s site - http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/16/State/Es...ers_had_a.shtml

SOMETHING SMELLS IN THE LAND OF GOOGLE NEWS!

Search “massive tabulator tampering in Escambia” and get “Your search - Massive tabulator tampering in Escambia - did not match any documents….”

Search “Florida results are clear off the chart” and get “Your search - “Florida results are clear off the chart” - did not match any documents.”

Search any of the text and get similar results.

Questions - Why are other (and more recent) stories by Mr. Dennis searchable in Google News?

I have sent the information and a request for assistance to the newspaper.

If we have any members in the greater Tampa area who could visit Mr. Brady and show him this information, perhaps he would be willing to do a little investigation on Google covering-up news.

The SP Times contact info - http://connect.sptimes.com/contactus/

(727) 893-8111

St. Petersburg Times
490 First Ave. S, St. Petersburg, FL 33701
(727) 893-8111.

Heres something interesting: Try searching for vote fraud in various engines, and it starts to not show anything. Someone trying to "cover" their tracks?

I posted something awhile back about Google sensoring also, this topic was on slashdot.com:

Compare the following images searches Google v Yahoo on their image sites:

Abu Ghraib Images Google Search

Abu Ghraib Images Yahoo Search

Lyndie England - Google Images Search

Lyndie England - Yahoo Search

Charles Graner - Google Images Search

Charles Graner - Yahoo Search


Hmmm, Why doesn't Google want us to see the truth? Or is there a better explanation? I challenge testing of this on other search engines also.

Is Google a privately owned company now? I always thought they were public

Google never has been good.

Activisms, I am glad you are back.....missed you yesterday....keep coming with your posts..... I always enjoy reading them because you keep our hopes up

There may be a way to fix google. I, like many of you, own a small business who advertises on google. I'm going to let them know that censorship is outrageous and I'm pulling my ads. If others joined me, it would sure hurt their bottom line, PUBLICLY.

Or, could this simply be an issue with their search engine? I did not see the results of the original search alleged to have been conducted earlier today - can someone post an image of that?

So, before we just fly off the handle, as usual, why not wait and see if it shows up tomorrow? If it doesn't, then I think it is a fair question.

But, if you all want to go running wildly off into the night carrying torches and pitchforks, let me know how many ads you are all cancelling and I will buy 2 for every ad cancelled so that a potentially innocent company does not hurt financially due to more conspiracy theories.

it's no issue, i tried 3 engines, Yahoo, Google , and opera

what i found was Yahoo shows them all

Google doesn't at all

and Opera which i did a free download does a seach with google , however when you type in abu ghraib in search gives nothing, BUT when clicked on left side where it says LINK it gives you more picutes then you've ever seen on yahoo or news

But, I mean, c'mon!!! This is supposedly some vast conspiracy that now Google is in on?????

Who isn't in on it???

With that many people in on this conspiracy, do you stand a chance? (by "you", I mean the conspiracy theorists).

And, a philosophical question: if more people are in on a conspiracy than those who aren't, isn't it really the people not in on it who are actually in on their own conspiracy?

Strange....Why is Google the one to do it along with alltheweb?

Google can take up to 2 weeks to update links

it is nothing to do with them covering up anything

http://www.google.com/search?q=gmanders777...:en-US:official

try the above I posted over 700 on this site and JK

also archive which are done daily are not googled

But, if you all want to go running wildly off into the night carrying torches and pitchforks, let me know how many ads you are all cancelling and I will buy 2 for every ad cancelled so that a potentially innocent company does not hurt financially due to more conspiracy theories.

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The 9 "hits" from this morning, and duplicated later this afternoon, are in the original post.

In both cases the Tampa "fraud" story is missing.

In the afternoon search, one additional new (today) story was found.

Wait, so the proof that Google is censoring things is that there were 2 searches performed, one this morning and one this afternoon and in both cases the "fraud" story is missing?

Maybe their search engine simply hasn't spidered that site yet?

[quote=gmanders777,Nov 17 2004, 06:11 PM]
Google can take up to 2 weeks to update links

That may be true, but it does not explain why all this reporter's other stories, with the exact same byline, register, but this one story does not.

[quote=PaineInTheArse,Nov 17 2004, 04:18 PM]
[quote=gmanders777,Nov 17 2004, 06:11 PM]
Google can take up to 2 weeks to update links

That may be true, but it does not explain why all this reporter's other stories, with the exact same byline, register, but this one story does not.

[/quote]


As an accountant, something is positively fishy about a search engine(google, alltheweb, metacrawler) not updating their metatag lists for more than three seperate days......

OK, well, you go chase that down, take your time. Seriously, take a few weeks.

The paper uses yahoo for searches and google has to update every 12 hours or



ACTUALLY IT IS THERE, something wrong with the search on brady dennis


http://www.google.com/search?q=Escambia+vo...:en-US:official

Again, the key thing here is to not waste time chasing it down, but to awcknowledge the fact that certain media places may be censoring their information. Folks, no theory here, if the media clamped down to call this a "conspiracy" in wide networks, they could easily help censor where the information is coming from IE: the net. However, its a futile effort to actually censor information which is freely available to everyone.

For instance why would the national MSN corporate media censor their information from the search engines, when nearly the whole world goes to their homepage first anyway www.msn.com ?

Can you imagine the kind of idiots in charge? Fascism created by 10 year olds, some of these dolts decided to claim a "warning" was sent to them when they locked down the election offices in florida......

5:20PM EST update.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/16/State/Escambia_voters_had_a.shtml - story is alive and well on the SP Times website.

Google search for "By BRADY DENNIS Times Staff Writer" results in 9 stories, does NOT include "Escambria...":

Results 1 - 9 of 9 for By BRADY DENNIS Times Staff Writer. (0.16 seconds)

Lowry Park to ask City Council to increase zoo's admission prices ...
St. Petersburg Times, FL - 13 hours ago
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Soon patrons might have to reach deeper into their wallets for a stroll around Lowry Park Zoo. ...

Saluting his hero, his son
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 11, 2004
Gregg Garvey isn't going to wait to honor the memory of those who died in Iraq, and is working to ensure no one does. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. ...

Fall drops hints and temperatures
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 5, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - When autumn finally arrives in Florida, it announces itself with a whisper rather than a shout. ...

In Tampa, Kerry blasts Bush
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 18, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. Sen. John Kerry, on a campaign swing through Florida, scolded President Bush for his "arrogant ...

A slice of relief
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 30, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. PENSACOLA - A cool, perfect autumn evening, and yet so many people walking the midway look weary. ...

Long-gone hurricanes threaten voter turnout
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 1, 2004
Storm-ravaged areas that went for the president in 2000 are still recovering, adding to election uncertainty. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. ...

Campaigning with Leonardo DiCaprio
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 20, 2004
He wanted to talk about the environment in Tampa. His adoring fans had other ideas. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Just ...

Crews making last pass to pick up storm debris
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 22, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Slowly but surely, the piles of debris are disappearing. So are the chances to get them picked up for free. ...

Beautiful noise
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 20, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. They meet every evening in the yard of the old abandoned house on St. Louis Street. Boys come ...

Google News search for "Escambia voters had a great turnout"Your search - "Escambia voters had a great turnout" - did not match any documents

Yahoo News search for "Escambia voters had a great turnout" - three unrelated stories.

NEWS STORIESResults 1 - 3 of about 3 for "Escambia voters had a great turnout".Sort Results by: Relevance | Date
Fast answer could get seniors free medicine
St. Petersburg Times - Nov 15 10:23 PM
In a state settlement, Medco will give up to $300 in generic drugs to 7,500 patients. TALLAHASSEE - Eligible seniors could get up to $300 in generic prescription drugs under a settlement worth $2.3-million, Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist announced Monday.
Judge says not yet to amendment's start
St. Petersburg Times - Nov 15 10:30 PM
A judge delays its start, says the measure is too complex to take effect without input from the Legislature.
Low scores could cost schools
St. Petersburg Times - Nov 15 10:19 PM
A new state law says schools would lose money for not meeting goals, but details still are being ironed out. Until now, schools that didn't do well enough on the FCAT had to watch as the state handed reward money to schools that did.


I say it's safe to pull your advertising dollars.

Here again on a wild goose chase

Do any of you know how search engines work?

Evidentally, the tag line is broken or not linked

There is no conspiracy

So what are you trying to say?

Seriously. I tried to use my Official Secret Decoder Ring on your post, but it doesn't work.

Did you forget today's code key?

Go to the corner, sit down on the bench and ask the cloaked gentleman for a light....

I dunno.

I wondered about Google back before the election. Every time I tried search terms for John Kerry and John Edwards I got a bunch of links to Bush stories or negative Kerry stories.

Started using yahoo more after that.

I thought you read my mind

Sure seems so

Escambia voters had a great turnout
google that

Yes, they had a turnout more than who was even registered! :o :o :o

Ummmm... no. Their initial figure was 169,000 voted out of 189,000 registered. That was wrong, it was revised to 140,000+ voted out of 189,000 registered (numbers are not exact, but you get the idea).

Get the facts straight.

Actually, their *revised* numbers are nothing short of direct ballot changing by claiming the entire thing was a glitch happening in even numbered years across the board.

If the initial tampering wasn't in question, their *revisions* only raise more red flags.

Ummm, get things straight again....

We are talking about Escambia County, Florida now. The even numbered thing supposedly was in Ohio.

And, I love how errors in vote counts are suddenly clear evidence of fraud!!!

Let's see: an election takes place, the counts are found, by the election board, to be wrong, they correct them.... must be fraud.... RIIIIIIIGHT!!!

I don't believe in conspiracy theories either, but it is interesting to note how Google is generally considered the premiere search engine, but does not produce reliable results. Who knows why? Are they censoring information at the request of someone on the right? Who knows? I would expect the best results from them.

Its just interesting that you can sometimes get better results on sites that perhaps update their meta-tags faster than Google. However, the search anamoly regarding Abu Ghraib has been there for a while.

On the otherhand, this is also another interesting anamoly about Google (a left-wing conspiracy, perhaps ):

On the Google main page,
type in "miserable failure " without the quotes,
hit I'm Feeling Lucky, and check out the result.

www.google.com

9:25AM EST test.

Hit #1 - http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/16/State/Es...ers_had_a.shtml
is alive and well on the SP Times website.

GOOGLE NEWS SEARCHES:
Miss #1: Your search - "A tabulation error had nearly 85 percent of the county's" - did not match any documents.
Miss #2 - Your search - "Escambia voters had a great turnout" - did not match any documents.
Miss #3 - Results 1 - 8 of 8 for By-BRADY-DENNIS-Times-Staff-Writer. (0.56 seconds)

(Other stories by this reporter with the exact same byline)
Lowry Park to ask City Council to increase zoo's admission prices ...
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 17, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Soon patrons might have to reach deeper into their wallets for a stroll around Lowry Park Zoo. ...

Saluting his hero, his son
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 11, 2004
Gregg Garvey isn't going to wait to honor the memory of those who died in Iraq, and is working to ensure no one does. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. ...

Fall drops hints and temperatures
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 5, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - When autumn finally arrives in Florida, it announces itself with a whisper rather than a shout. ...

A slice of relief
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 30, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. PENSACOLA - A cool, perfect autumn evening, and yet so many people walking the midway look weary. ...

Campaigning with Leonardo DiCaprio
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 20, 2004
He wanted to talk about the environment in Tampa. His adoring fans had other ideas. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Just ...

Long-gone hurricanes threaten voter turnout
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Nov 1, 2004
Storm-ravaged areas that went for the president in 2000 are still recovering, adding to election uncertainty. By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. ...

Crews making last pass to pick up storm debris
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 22, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. TAMPA - Slowly but surely, the piles of debris are disappearing. So are the chances to get them picked up for free. ...

Beautiful noise
St. Petersburg Times, FL - Oct 20, 2004
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer. They meet every evening in the yard of the old abandoned house on St. Louis Street. Boys come ...

Note "our" "Escambia voters had a great turnout" story is missing.

ADS ARE PULLED!
I'm tired of the media bias.. Have we forgotten Sinclair? On my local cable service we get three major national news channels, MSNBC, FOX & CNN. Do you think ANY ISSUE that is discussed on this forum airs on those stations as os late? NOT A ONE! They are too busy repeating what the "legendary" Marth Stewart is going to have for Thanksgiving dinner, or how the merger of Sears and Kmart is going to make my life better, or maybe how GREAT we are doing in Iraq.
The issues we talk about are REAL. They are national stories, (find me one topic in this entire forum that could not be used as a platform in a presidential race, or hasn't been used for that matter), that everyone has a stake in, and apparantly Americans want to discuss or the forum would not exist.

Everyone has their right to an opinion, but some people would like to live in the bliss of ignorance. Let's face it, even if everything in America is working perfectly, this country is still about everyone out for themselves. Capitalism at it's best. No one has time to devote all their energy to looking out for your family, when it's a struggle to take care of their own. My point - Your media is not geared to make sure you are well informed with truthfull, accurate and timely information. It's geared to protect those in control of it. PERIOD!

All I can say is that 98% of the time I find exactly what I am looking for on Google

Yahoo and others take me longer to filter results. Maybe it is the search terms I use

and how it is worded.

Independent testers needed.

Please try the searches described in post #30 in this series (number in upper right) to help determine if Google News is screening this story.

Be sure to search in Google NEWS.

Use other search engines, too, if you wish.