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anomie_inc
QUOTE(noonanda @ Nov 18 2004, 12:30 PM)


Support our troops, right?

MY idea of supporting our troops is to make sure that these young men & women who are ready to fight and die for our freedoms are only sent into harm's way when it's NECESSARY. not when a cabal of zealots like PNAC decides it's politically advantageous.

North Korea has nuclear technology, and missles capable of reaching California. Any serviceman/woman with family on the West Coast had more to fear from N. Korea than from Iraq. and yet we got 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' instead...

is the world better off without Saddam in power? sure, why not. but isn't the list a little bit longer than that? would the world be better off without Robert Mugabe in charge of Zimbabwe? without Kim Jung-Il in charge of N. Korea? without the murderous government in Khartoum in charge of Sudan? by NOT deposing these leaders, are we saying that we approve of them? that seems to be the logic behind the 'support the Iraq war or you're a Saddam apologist' argument.

i wonder what would've been the result if we'd polled the Iraqi people before the invasion, and asked them one question:

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given a choice between:

(a) having your hand chopped off by a Ba'athist, or

(b) having your home destroyed, some family members killed, and your entire country (except the Oil Ministry) bombed to hell & occupied by a foreign power,

which would you prefer?
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we went into Iraq for 4 reasons:
WMD
Saddam
Uday
Qusay

no WMD, and Saddam's out, Uday & Qusay are dead. why are we still there? we're not in Iraq because the 'insurgents' are attacking, the 'insurgents' are attacking because we're in Iraq. and as long as we're there, we, and anyone who's seen working with us, are targets.

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS - BRING THEM HOME

anomie, inc.
anomie_inc
btw, noonanda - a quick point about your sig:

War hasn't ended slavery - it's still thriving around the world.

War hasn't ended communism - we do tens of Billions of $$$ in trade with Communist China every year.
lengould
Support Our Troops???

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Veterans

Bush touts the importance of veterans medical care at Walter Reed Army Hospital [1/17/03]

“Having been here and seeing the care that these troops get is comforting for me and Laura. We are -- should and must provide the best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way.” – Bush, 1/17/03

Bush's visit came on the same day that the Administration announced it is immediately cutting off access to its health care system approximately 164,000 veterans [W. Post, 1/17/03].
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prettyflower1976
QUOTE(anomie_inc @ Nov 18 2004, 01:01 PM)
Support our troops, right?

MY idea of supporting our troops is to make sure that these young men & women who are ready to fight and die for our freedoms are only sent into harm's way when it's NECESSARY.  not when a cabal of zealots like PNAC decides it's politically advantageous.

North Korea has nuclear technology, and missles capable of reaching California.  Any serviceman/woman with family on the West Coast had more to fear from N. Korea than from Iraq.  and yet we got 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' instead...

is the world better off without Saddam in power? sure, why not.  but isn't the list a little bit longer than that?  would the world be better off without Robert Mugabe in charge of Zimbabwe?  without Kim Jung-Il in charge of N. Korea?  without the murderous government in Khartoum in charge of Sudan?  by NOT deposing these leaders, are we saying that we approve of them?  that seems to be the logic behind the 'support the Iraq war or you're a Saddam apologist' argument.

i wonder what would've been the result if we'd polled the Iraqi people before the invasion, and asked them one question:

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given a choice between:

(a) having your hand chopped off by a Ba'athist, or

(cool.gif having your home destroyed, some family members killed, and your entire country (except the Oil Ministry) bombed to hell & occupied by a foreign power,

which would you prefer?
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we went into Iraq for 4 reasons:
WMD
Saddam
Uday
Qusay

no WMD, and Saddam's out, Uday & Qusay are dead.  why are we still there?  we're not in Iraq because the 'insurgents' are attacking, the 'insurgents' are attacking because we're in Iraq.  and as long as we're there, we, and anyone who's seen working with us, are targets.

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS - BRING THEM HOME

anomie, inc.
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I agree, Love the flag. smile.gif
InAWorldGoneMad
Support our Troops, Impeach BushCo.

Guns don't kill people, BushCo does.

There is no plan to leave Iraq. There never was. BushCo lied, can you believe it? What is the total number of permenant mulit-million dollar military bases being built in Iraq, 12-17? Would we really build these bases, and hand the keys over to whatever unstable puppet regime we would be leaving in power?

This war is wrong. I support the troops by not accepting the lies. I support our troops by not signing onto the BushCo partyline. BushCo does not care about the Iraqis, the soldiers, their families or international laws. This ENRON style of government is only interested in the lining of the pockets of their elitist backers.

Change will come, but at what cost?
ultraist
I don't think the question should be, Is the world better off without Sadaam? We had him contained. The question is:

Is Iraq, the US, and the rest of the world better off having the US waging war on Iraq and occupying their country? 100,000 dead and counting...I'd say not. Billions of American tax dollars and counting...I'd say not.

Would the world have been better off had we followed through with the inspections, discovered NO WMD, and then watched some insurgents take down Sadaam?
anomie_inc
QUOTE(prettyflower1976 @ Nov 18 2004, 02:19 PM)
I agree, Love the flag. :)
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thanks flower, you're sweet.
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