Out of the two handguns made by Glock, model 19 and 23, which would you buy? Why?

There's a place here in AZ that sells them for the same price. Like you probably know, the 19 is a 9mm and the 23 is a 40 cal.

I'm going to be buying one pretty soon and wanted any advice anyone would like to give. Thanks.

I'm sure someone here will know a lot more than me. All I can tell you is from personal experience since my husband has both.

We like the 19 because it uses standard military ammuntion, ie 9mm. Less recoil, back on target quicker. It's got the glock clip with a +2 so 17 rounds. You can get the larger clip, too. We use the 115 loads in it.

The 23 has more recoil/take down power which should be expected, ammunition is more expensive -at least here.

For a quick comparison of your weights, velocity and energy check this:

Muzzle Velocity

Personally, I prefer the Browning 9mm / 13 shot. I'm far more accurate with it than the glock.

I guess it depends on what your looking to do with it.

Oh, be very careful with the safetys on the Glock, tricky things they are.

Wow, Terra, i had no idea you were this knowledgeable with guns.

How much more are the bullets for the 23 over the 19?

Thanks for the info.

:cough: Hard to live with a Montana man, survivalist for 20+ years and not have some of it rub off.

We can pick up boxes of the 9mm/50 per box for between $8-9. It's been awhile since we've bought the other, but it's about the same price but 25 per box. So about double the price, give or take. Anytime you go with military issue that's been around since WW2 there is a huge abundance so the price is cheaper. Many years back we used to reload everything, because the price was high. Now days it's not worth the time to reload.

Think about this, you can go through a lot of ammo with a semi-automatic. You'll spend more time reloading your clips than you will "target practicing".

Glock makes a fine weapon...both 9mm and 40...

But, forgive me...as an old wheel-gun enthusiast...
who can speed-load 357-magnum or 44-magnum
cylinder about as fast as 9mm and 40 cal. shooters
can slap a mag...if you want stopping power...look
to S&W the American standard. Spray your way
our stand through the spray and find the way...

Can you put one or two on target? And, if so,
how much punch do you need?

What if there is a slide jam? Can you clear and slap
as fast as I can can empty and twist a speed loader?

I find cover as important in the contest as mag loading...
it's all about combat function. Know your own ability...
it will define your best machine.

(I always liked the H&K as the best 9mm, BTW)

I'm with you Indianhead. For thirty years I packed a sidearm and it was always an automatic. I still pack one around the farm to take care of any coyotes who have lost their way but now it's a Model 15 S&W 38 Special.

Folks might say it's a pipsqueak when compared to a 357 or 44 magnum and it don't lay down the firepower of an automatic but it does do one thing which makes all them arguments lame. It will put a round where I want it to hit and that's all that really counts.

I got my first Rugar when I was 24 and I just had to have the Redhawk 44 mag. I took it to the range and could'nt hit the side of a barn with it and it kicked like a mule.

For home protection, I say get a 12 Guage pump action. Saw it off and load it with dum dums.

I'm still a rookie, Indianhead. Haha.

This is going to be my first "Real" gun. I've owned numerous BB guns in my past, but never a "Real" gun. I like both styles that you're talking about; but, as of right now, i would prefer to purchase a Glock. I hear they're very reliable and easy to maintain. Also, i hear that it'll do well for what i want it for.

This definitely isn't going to be my last gun purchased; so, maybe my second will be a 357 or a 44. Who knows. Although, what i would prefer over any of them, is a Bushmaster M4A3. But, 425 is a much more realistic price than 900 (Or, i've even heard 700) for me right now.

make sure you dont cut the barrel below 18 inches or you will be a criminal. I wouldnt worry about "dum dum" bullets, but you could load it with double ought buckshot and slugs and you will drop any "person who thinks laws dont apply to them" IE Criminals

An improved cylinder choke with goose loads will give someone a hell of a lot to think about too.

But then I keep my pump winchester load for the first two shots with #9 pidgeon loads followed by 4 double ought buckshot loads. I figure if getting stung by the pigeon loads don't discourage them the 00 buck certainly will.

Besides at really close quarters that pigeon load will make a hell of a mess.

My man is exactly right here. The length must be 18".
I've never worried more than 00 Buck or slugs could handle.

If you are going to buy a Glock semi I'd go with the 40 mm
just because it is the most popular and is bigger. Most the
cops I know have gone to the Glock...ammunition and
parts will be more available and improved upon as time
goes on. Those composite guns just seem weird to me...
I guess I'm old fashion, cause I want a hand full of steel.

I also like the .38 charge better than the 9mm.
When I was starting out with a handgun I had a
.38 S&W wheel gun...start with a six-inch barrell
for accuracy and recoil control. They are still the
tried and true pistol. Magnums come in for stopping
power, but the .38 Special is still all you need for
personnel. And, I'd suggest learning in a good course.

Sight picture, firm grip, solid stance, breath control, squeezing
off the round, staying on target...are extremely important.
Learn correctly, practice that way, realize the paper you punch
will be a man, stay focused and serious, and you'll be a shooter.

My pump shotgun is also a Winchester. Model 1000, 12-gauge,
and I usualy have 6-shot, 00 and slugs. I want a Remington 870
too....are you listening Santa?

My neighbor (A Cop) said the small shot was the way to go but he likes the Mossberg brand shotgun. I used an 870 when I live dIn Manvel.

You get two advantages when you use a smaller shot with no choke the pattern will be bigger and you don't have to worry so much about killing the kid in the apartment next door. The disadvantage is as range increases stopping power rapidly decreases.

I served on a jury once where the perpetrator shot a fellow with a 20 guage shotgun loaded with #7 1/2 shot. #7 1/2 shot is what most people would hunt dove, quail, squirels, or rabbits with. I would imagine that's what Cheney shot the lawyer with in South Texas. Let me tell you from the distance of seven or eight feet #7 1/2 shot will make a hell of a mess out of a human beings chest. The coroner said death was almost instaneous.

Very true...ain't it strange how some are hit multiple times
with assault rounds and live and others take one in the inner thigh
of through the eye with a small round and thier ticket is punched.
Sometimes I think there's something to your number being up...or not.

On thing for sure...when you go to guns...it's for all the marbles.
Get your head is around the probable result before your
finger around a trigger.

BTW FD: Glock ain't American-made. Just an afterthought.

My Grand Dad was what they called the Town Marshal way back in the 1920s and 30s in a little community down in Central Texas. Most of what made up his job was locking up the drunks an Friday and Saturday nights.

Since that little town was also an oil boom town they had some pretty rough rowdies available for him. I can remember him making a statement when I was a litle kid that if you draw a gun on someone you better be ready to kill them. He never fired a shot but everyone who knew him knew he meant business, he meant what he said, and he wasn't bluffing.

I still got the old single action .41 caliber Colt Peacemaker he used to tote. Still in shooting condition but .41 caliber Colt ammunition has been out of production for about 65 years. The five rounds I got are the only five I have been able to find and I've been looking for about 25 years.

If you're relatively new to semi-automatic handguns, I would suggest the 9mm. for a variety of reasons. It is an easier caliber to become proficient with because of the milder recoil impulse. It is also less expensive thus allowing you to practice more. With today's variety of loads, you will find that the 9mm. will not leave you "under-gunned” in a self defense scenario.