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lawnorder
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Just Prove It: A National Campaign
(Kos)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/18/183833/04

Alan Waldman, in today's Orlando Weekly, [guess he didn't get the `blackout memo'] reminds all of us:

"Election results are not final until electors vote on Dec. 12. There is still time to find the truth."

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/Story.asp?ID=4688

I am advocating a National Campaign: "Prove To Me My Vote Was Counted, Now"

Simple message:

American citizen, do you know if your vote was counted as you intended it to be.

American citizen, do you know that 30 % of you used a technology that has no verifiable record of how you intended to vote.

American citizen, would you put your money in a bank or use a credit card that didn't verify, penny by penny, the status of your account.

American citizen, pick up the phone and call your friends, your Congress representatives, your newspapers, your TV/radio stations, your President and ask `Prove to me my vote was counted the way I intended it to be; Just Prove it.'

Can we mobilize at dKos and all other responsible blogs and organizations like MoveOn, Common Cause, etc., to broadcast that message -- "Just Prove It."

Have them create ads, with appropriate imagery, and get them on during 'prime time' and 'early morning radio.'

Call/email, Oprah and Larry King and Olbermann and.....and, request that they take 5 min during their program and ask those questions just once.

We an get the vote counted, verifiably, now.

We can, if we want to.

This Is Our Nation, remember; It's time we start acting like we mean it.
brossignol
QUOTE(lawnorder @ Nov 18 2004, 11:32 PM)
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I like the spirit of it. I mean, honestly, I voted absentee, always do. I like to be able to research local issues as I vote. This election was the first time I even hand delivered my ballot. But what happened to it then? How do I know if it was counted?
Activisms
I back this initiative.
KenL007
This is a great idea. I think local is the way to start it. i.e. take it to your State Representative/Senator.
EvelyninTexas
This sounds good. When I was reading about the tallies in some of the smaller counties in Ohio and Florida, with precincts with about 600-1000 votes cast, with lists of who voted, it occured to me that it would be a relatively simple task to sample those areas, ask them, in the case of Ohio, if they meant not to choose a candidate for President (5-27% in certain precincts.) If you remember, in 2000, in Florida, that was one of the "untold" stories, the "undervotes". I remember seeing a little gray haired lady on TV, saying "why in the hell would I have gone to vote and not chosen a Presidential candidate??" Voters don't throw away their votes..........
Activisms
QUOTE(EvelyninTexas @ Nov 19 2004, 12:14 AM)
This sounds good.  When I was reading about the tallies in some of the smaller counties in Ohio and Florida, with precincts with about 600-1000 votes cast, with lists of who voted, it occured to me that it would be a relatively simple task to sample those areas, ask them, in the case of Ohio, if they meant not to choose a candidate for President (5-27% in certain precincts.)  If you remember, in 2000, in Florida, that was one of the "untold" stories, the "undervotes".  I remember seeing a little gray haired lady on TV, saying "why in the hell would I have gone to vote and not chosen a Presidential candidate??"  Voters  don't throw away their votes..........
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Hey unless you're Katherine Blackwell and Ken J Harris!!! lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif
The Judged
This has been suggested before, and it is not too late to audit the vote by giving people from the suspect precincts who voted a random, unique ID number and having them call in their votes to a telephone based tabulator.

If the tally is off, then call each of these voters into Congress to testify, in closed session, to their votes and the fact that the totals offered by Election officials are absolutely wrong.
Activisms
QUOTE(The Judged @ Nov 19 2004, 12:29 AM)
This has been suggested before, and it is not too late to audit the vote by giving people from the suspect precincts who voted a random, unique ID number and having them call in their votes to a telephone based tabulator.

If the tally is off, then call each of these voters into Congress to testify, in closed session, to their votes and the fact that the totals offered by Election officials are absolutely wrong.
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Should mail that suggestion straight into the activists groups, its a very good one!
The Judged
It has been brought up by me at least four or five times between the old forum and this one, yet it hasn't caught on yet.
tomahawk
OH, MY GOD!!!! brossignol, KenL007, and activisms, ALL THREE ACTUALLY AGREED ON SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (IS THE WORLD ABOUT TO END -- WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?) rolleyes.gif
Buster0001
LOL, tomahawk, HISTORY WAS MADE TODAY!

That must mean that this is a GREAT IDEA.
lawnorder
QUOTE(tomahawk @ Nov 19 2004, 10:30 AM)
OH, MY GOD!!!!  brossignol, KenL007, and activisms, ALL THREE ACTUALLY AGREED ON SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (IS THE WORLD ABOUT TO END -- WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?) rolleyes.gif
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Locusts returned to Egypt too, just yesterday
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JILLinaz
QUOTE(tomahawk @ Nov 19 2004, 09:30 AM)
OH, MY GOD!!!!  brossignol, KenL007, and activisms, ALL THREE ACTUALLY AGREED ON SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (IS THE WORLD ABOUT TO END -- WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?) rolleyes.gif
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too funny - I was going to write the same thing after I got done reading the posts :D :D :D :D :D

miracles do happen!!!
KenL007
I dont really ever disagree with Activisms, we both think like the rest of the posters on this board. I think bros was tired or something.....

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Buster0001
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I think bros was tired or something.....


Another LOL!
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