Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators By Jason Leopold
TRUTHOUT | Report
Saturday 13 May 2006
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.
During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.
Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, did not return a call for comment. Sources said Fitzgerald was in Washington, DC, Friday and met with Luskin for about 15 hours to go over the charges against Rove, which include perjury and lying to investigators about how and when Rove discovered that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative and whether he shared that information with reporters, sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said.
It was still unknown Saturday whether Fitzgerald charged Rove with a more serious obstruction of justice charge. Sources close to the case said Friday that it appeared very likely that an obstruction charge against Rove would be included with charges of perjury and lying to investigators.
An announcement by Fitzgerald is expected to come this week, sources close to the case said. However, the day and time is unknown. Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the special prosecutor was unavailable for comment. In the past, Samborn said he could not comment on the case.
The grand jury hearing evidence in the Plame Wilson case met Friday on other matters while Fitzgerald spent the entire day at Luskin's office. The meeting was a closely guarded secret and seems to have taken place without the knowledge of the media.
As TruthOut reported Friday evening, Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.
Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House, where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.
Speaking on condition of anonymity Friday night, sources confirmed Rove's indictment was imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove's situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on "wildly speculative rumors."
Rove's announcement to President Bush and Bolten comes more than a month after he alerted the new chief of staff to a meeting his attorney had with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in which Fitzgerald told Luskin that his case against Rove would soon be coming to a close and that he was leaning toward charging Rove with perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, according to sources close to the investigation.
A few weeks after he spoke with Fitzgerald, Luskin arranged for Rove to return to the grand jury for a fifth time to testify in hopes of fending off an indictment related to Rove's role in the CIA leak, sources said.
That meeting was followed almost immediately by an announcement by newly-appointed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten of changes in the responsibilities of some White House officials, including Rove, who was stripped of his policy duties and would no longer hold the title of deputy White House chief of staff.
The White House said Rove would focus on the November elections and his change in status in no way reflected his fifth appearance before the grand jury or the possibility of an indictment.
But since Rove testified two weeks ago, the White House has been coordinating a response to what is sure to be the biggest political scandal it has faced thus far: the loss of a key political operative who has been instrumental in shaping White House policy on a wide range of domestic issues.
Rove testified that he first found out about Plame Wilson from reading a newspaper report in July 2003 and only after the story was published did he share damaging information about her CIA status with other reporters.
However, evidence has surfaced during the course of the two-year-old investigation that shows Rove spoke with at least two reporters about Plame Wilson prior to the publication of the column.
The explanation Rove provided to the grand jury - that he was dealing with more urgent White House matters and therefore forgot - has not convinced Fitzgerald that Rove has been entirely truthful in his testimony and resulted in the indictment.
Some White House staffers said it's the uncertainty of Rove's status in the leak case that has made it difficult for the administration's domestic policy agenda and that the announcement of an indictment and Rove's subsequent resignation, while serious, would allow the administration to move forward on a wide range of issues.
"We need to start fresh and we can't do that with the uncertainty of Karl's case hanging over our heads," said one White House aide. "There's no doubt that it will be front page news if and when (an indictment) happens. But eventually it will become old news quickly. The key issue here is that the president or Mr. Bolten respond to the charges immediately, make a statement and then move on to other important policy issues and keep that as the main focus going forward."
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Jason Leopold spent two years covering California's electricity crisis as Los Angeles bureau chief of Dow Jones Newswires. Jason has spent the last year cultivating sources close to the CIA leak investigation, and is a regular contributor to t r u t h o u t. He is the author of the new book NEWS JUNKIE. Visit www.newsjunkiebook.com for a preview.
Full Version: Truthout.com BREAKING NEWS
QUOTE(winston smith @ May 13 2006, 10:49 PM)
Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators By Jason Leopold
TRUTHOUT | Report
Saturday 13 May 2006
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.
During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.
Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, did not return a call for comment. Sources said Fitzgerald was in Washington, DC, Friday and met with Luskin for about 15 hours to go over the charges against Rove, which include perjury and lying to investigators about how and when Rove discovered that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative and whether he shared that information with reporters, sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said.
It was still unknown Saturday whether Fitzgerald charged Rove with a more serious obstruction of justice charge. Sources close to the case said Friday that it appeared very likely that an obstruction charge against Rove would be included with charges of perjury and lying to investigators.
An announcement by Fitzgerald is expected to come this week, sources close to the case said. However, the day and time is unknown. Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the special prosecutor was unavailable for comment. In the past, Samborn said he could not comment on the case.
The grand jury hearing evidence in the Plame Wilson case met Friday on other matters while Fitzgerald spent the entire day at Luskin's office. The meeting was a closely guarded secret and seems to have taken place without the knowledge of the media.
As TruthOut reported Friday evening, Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.
Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House, where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.
Speaking on condition of anonymity Friday night, sources confirmed Rove's indictment was imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove's situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on "wildly speculative rumors."
Rove's announcement to President Bush and Bolten comes more than a month after he alerted the new chief of staff to a meeting his attorney had with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in which Fitzgerald told Luskin that his case against Rove would soon be coming to a close and that he was leaning toward charging Rove with perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, according to sources close to the investigation.
A few weeks after he spoke with Fitzgerald, Luskin arranged for Rove to return to the grand jury for a fifth time to testify in hopes of fending off an indictment related to Rove's role in the CIA leak, sources said.
That meeting was followed almost immediately by an announcement by newly-appointed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten of changes in the responsibilities of some White House officials, including Rove, who was stripped of his policy duties and would no longer hold the title of deputy White House chief of staff.
The White House said Rove would focus on the November elections and his change in status in no way reflected his fifth appearance before the grand jury or the possibility of an indictment.
But since Rove testified two weeks ago, the White House has been coordinating a response to what is sure to be the biggest political scandal it has faced thus far: the loss of a key political operative who has been instrumental in shaping White House policy on a wide range of domestic issues.
Rove testified that he first found out about Plame Wilson from reading a newspaper report in July 2003 and only after the story was published did he share damaging information about her CIA status with other reporters.
However, evidence has surfaced during the course of the two-year-old investigation that shows Rove spoke with at least two reporters about Plame Wilson prior to the publication of the column.
The explanation Rove provided to the grand jury - that he was dealing with more urgent White House matters and therefore forgot - has not convinced Fitzgerald that Rove has been entirely truthful in his testimony and resulted in the indictment.
Some White House staffers said it's the uncertainty of Rove's status in the leak case that has made it difficult for the administration's domestic policy agenda and that the announcement of an indictment and Rove's subsequent resignation, while serious, would allow the administration to move forward on a wide range of issues.
"We need to start fresh and we can't do that with the uncertainty of Karl's case hanging over our heads," said one White House aide. "There's no doubt that it will be front page news if and when (an indictment) happens. But eventually it will become old news quickly. The key issue here is that the president or Mr. Bolten respond to the charges immediately, make a statement and then move on to other important policy issues and keep that as the main focus going forward."
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Jason Leopold spent two years covering California's electricity crisis as Los Angeles bureau chief of Dow Jones Newswires. Jason has spent the last year cultivating sources close to the CIA leak investigation, and is a regular contributor to t r u t h o u t. He is the author of the new book NEWS JUNKIE. Visit www.newsjunkiebook.com for a preview.
TRUTHOUT | Report
Saturday 13 May 2006
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.
During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.
Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, did not return a call for comment. Sources said Fitzgerald was in Washington, DC, Friday and met with Luskin for about 15 hours to go over the charges against Rove, which include perjury and lying to investigators about how and when Rove discovered that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative and whether he shared that information with reporters, sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said.
It was still unknown Saturday whether Fitzgerald charged Rove with a more serious obstruction of justice charge. Sources close to the case said Friday that it appeared very likely that an obstruction charge against Rove would be included with charges of perjury and lying to investigators.
An announcement by Fitzgerald is expected to come this week, sources close to the case said. However, the day and time is unknown. Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the special prosecutor was unavailable for comment. In the past, Samborn said he could not comment on the case.
The grand jury hearing evidence in the Plame Wilson case met Friday on other matters while Fitzgerald spent the entire day at Luskin's office. The meeting was a closely guarded secret and seems to have taken place without the knowledge of the media.
As TruthOut reported Friday evening, Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.
Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House, where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.
Speaking on condition of anonymity Friday night, sources confirmed Rove's indictment was imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove's situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on "wildly speculative rumors."
Rove's announcement to President Bush and Bolten comes more than a month after he alerted the new chief of staff to a meeting his attorney had with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in which Fitzgerald told Luskin that his case against Rove would soon be coming to a close and that he was leaning toward charging Rove with perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, according to sources close to the investigation.
A few weeks after he spoke with Fitzgerald, Luskin arranged for Rove to return to the grand jury for a fifth time to testify in hopes of fending off an indictment related to Rove's role in the CIA leak, sources said.
That meeting was followed almost immediately by an announcement by newly-appointed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten of changes in the responsibilities of some White House officials, including Rove, who was stripped of his policy duties and would no longer hold the title of deputy White House chief of staff.
The White House said Rove would focus on the November elections and his change in status in no way reflected his fifth appearance before the grand jury or the possibility of an indictment.
But since Rove testified two weeks ago, the White House has been coordinating a response to what is sure to be the biggest political scandal it has faced thus far: the loss of a key political operative who has been instrumental in shaping White House policy on a wide range of domestic issues.
Rove testified that he first found out about Plame Wilson from reading a newspaper report in July 2003 and only after the story was published did he share damaging information about her CIA status with other reporters.
However, evidence has surfaced during the course of the two-year-old investigation that shows Rove spoke with at least two reporters about Plame Wilson prior to the publication of the column.
The explanation Rove provided to the grand jury - that he was dealing with more urgent White House matters and therefore forgot - has not convinced Fitzgerald that Rove has been entirely truthful in his testimony and resulted in the indictment.
Some White House staffers said it's the uncertainty of Rove's status in the leak case that has made it difficult for the administration's domestic policy agenda and that the announcement of an indictment and Rove's subsequent resignation, while serious, would allow the administration to move forward on a wide range of issues.
"We need to start fresh and we can't do that with the uncertainty of Karl's case hanging over our heads," said one White House aide. "There's no doubt that it will be front page news if and when (an indictment) happens. But eventually it will become old news quickly. The key issue here is that the president or Mr. Bolten respond to the charges immediately, make a statement and then move on to other important policy issues and keep that as the main focus going forward."
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Jason Leopold spent two years covering California's electricity crisis as Los Angeles bureau chief of Dow Jones Newswires. Jason has spent the last year cultivating sources close to the CIA leak investigation, and is a regular contributor to t r u t h o u t. He is the author of the new book NEWS JUNKIE. Visit www.newsjunkiebook.com for a preview.
Just found out: 24 hours means 24 BUSINESS DAY hours, starting Monday. That would put it at Wednesday.
QUOTE(EvelyninTexas @ May 14 2006, 03:56 PM)
Even though there are 7 different threads now with this story
KEEP YELLING IT FROM THE ROOFTOP THE MINUTE ITS OFFICIAL!!!
YEEEEEEHAAAAAAA
KEEP YELLING IT FROM THE ROOFTOP THE MINUTE ITS OFFICIAL!!!
YEEEEEEHAAAAAAA
QUOTE(graham4anything @ May 14 2006, 04:02 PM)
Even though there are 7 different threads now with this story
KEEP YELLING IT FROM THE ROOFTOP THE MINUTE ITS OFFICIAL!!!
YEEEEEEHAAAAAAA
KEEP YELLING IT FROM THE ROOFTOP THE MINUTE ITS OFFICIAL!!!
YEEEEEEHAAAAAAA
Graham, when it's announced, we expect you to buy the virtual champaign- a New York vintage will do just fine. VMaus, the pate foi de grasse is your responsibility, and I'll bring the caviar. I've ordered 8 boxcars- should be enough...
Anyone want to bring something- buffalo wings, potato salad...
Hey Winston,
What is pate foi de grasse? Can I bring the "Potatoe" Salad?
What is pate foi de grasse? Can I bring the "Potatoe" Salad?
QUOTE(wundermaus @ May 14 2006, 06:13 PM)
Hey Winston,
What is pate foi de grasse? Can I bring the "Potatoe" Salad?
What is pate foi de grasse? Can I bring the "Potatoe" Salad?
Well, I guess you might be confused since I misspelled it:Pate de foie gras
It's a spread you use for crackers- like bean dip- made of goose livers.
Bring bean dip if you want- no one will know the difference...
Yum.
Sounds really good, Winston... I just love liverwurst... but I'm a little on the "poor" side so maybe I can do this instead...
Mock Pate de Foie Gras Recipe
If you cannot afford expensive goose liver foie gras pate, try this version using chicken livers.
INGREDIENTS:
* 1/2 pound chicken livers, trimmed
* 1-1/4 teaspoons salt
* 1/2 cup butter, at room temperature
* 2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
* 1 teaspoon mustard
* 1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
* 1/4 teaspoon cloves
* 1/8 teaspoon cayenne
* 2 tablespoons onion juice
PREPARATION:
In a small saucepan, cover chicken livers with water to cover, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat immediately and simmer about 15 minutes. Add salt and simmer another 5 minutes until tender. Cool to room temperature in the stock.
Place cooked chicken livers, butter, Worcestershire sauce, mustard, nutmeg, cloves, cayenne pepper, and onion juice into the bowl of a food processor fitted with the metal blade. Process, adding enough of the reserved cooking stock to make a smooth paste. Taste and adjust seasonings.
Scrape into a greased crock and cover with plastic wrap, letting the wrap touch the surface of the pate. Refrigerate at least 24 hours before serving. Chicken liver pate may be stored under refrigeration up to 4 weeks.
Yield: 1 cup
http://homecooking.about.com/od/appetizerr...s/r/blapp31.htm
Mock Pate de Foie Gras Recipe
If you cannot afford expensive goose liver foie gras pate, try this version using chicken livers.
INGREDIENTS:
* 1/2 pound chicken livers, trimmed
* 1-1/4 teaspoons salt
* 1/2 cup butter, at room temperature
* 2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
* 1 teaspoon mustard
* 1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
* 1/4 teaspoon cloves
* 1/8 teaspoon cayenne
* 2 tablespoons onion juice
PREPARATION:
In a small saucepan, cover chicken livers with water to cover, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat immediately and simmer about 15 minutes. Add salt and simmer another 5 minutes until tender. Cool to room temperature in the stock.
Place cooked chicken livers, butter, Worcestershire sauce, mustard, nutmeg, cloves, cayenne pepper, and onion juice into the bowl of a food processor fitted with the metal blade. Process, adding enough of the reserved cooking stock to make a smooth paste. Taste and adjust seasonings.
Scrape into a greased crock and cover with plastic wrap, letting the wrap touch the surface of the pate. Refrigerate at least 24 hours before serving. Chicken liver pate may be stored under refrigeration up to 4 weeks.
Yield: 1 cup
http://homecooking.about.com/od/appetizerr...s/r/blapp31.htm
QUOTE(winston smith @ May 14 2006, 10:30 PM)
Well, I guess you might be confused since I misspelled it:Pate de foie gras
It's a spread you use for crackers- like bean dip- made of goose livers.
Bring bean dip if you want- no one will know the difference...
It's a spread you use for crackers- like bean dip- made of goose livers.
Bring bean dip if you want- no one will know the difference...
That is so nasty! I don't see how people can stand to eat fish eggs and ground up goose livers. Blech!!!
Potato salad sounds good to me. 
Winston, do not forget the frog walk image !
here's a diff one for your enjoyment:
and some music, too:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...6lr%3D%26sa%3DN
(click on The Mark Foutch Brass Band)
QUOTE(Pie @ May 14 2006, 09:45 PM)
Potato salad sounds good to me. Winston, do not forget the frog walk image !
here's one for your enjoyment:
and some music, too:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...6lr%3D%26sa%3DN
(click on The Mark Foutch Brass Band)
(found a nice, big one suitable for framing)
QUOTE(winston smith @ May 14 2006, 09:06 PM)
Graham, when it's announced, we expect you to buy the virtual champaign- a New York vintage will do just fine. VMaus, the pate foi de grasse is your responsibility, and I'll bring the caviar. I've ordered 8 boxcars- should be enough...
Anyone want to bring something- buffalo wings, potato salad...
Anyone want to bring something- buffalo wings, potato salad...
How about guacamole? It'll be roughly the shade of the repubs faces if this news is true....(besides, I make yummy guacamole...)
QUOTE
BREAKING NEWS .. ROVE INDICTED
Until it's here:http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/index.html
it ain't real.
Looks like a good recipe! If you get the chance try making it with part turkey liver, amazing flavor but it can be hard to get.
QUOTE(wundermaus @ May 14 2006, 08:08 PM)
Sounds really good, Winston... I just love liverwurst... but I'm a little on the "poor" side so maybe I can do this instead...
Mock Pate de Foie Gras Recipe
If you cannot afford expensive goose liver foie gras pate, try this version using chicken livers.
INGREDIENTS:
* 1/2 pound chicken livers, trimmed
* 1-1/4 teaspoons salt
* 1/2 cup butter, at room temperature
* 2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
* 1 teaspoon mustard
* 1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
* 1/4 teaspoon cloves
* 1/8 teaspoon cayenne
* 2 tablespoons onion juice
PREPARATION:
In a small saucepan, cover chicken livers with water to cover, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat immediately and simmer about 15 minutes. Add salt and simmer another 5 minutes until tender. Cool to room temperature in the stock.
Place cooked chicken livers, butter, Worcestershire sauce, mustard, nutmeg, cloves, cayenne pepper, and onion juice into the bowl of a food processor fitted with the metal blade. Process, adding enough of the reserved cooking stock to make a smooth paste. Taste and adjust seasonings.
Scrape into a greased crock and cover with plastic wrap, letting the wrap touch the surface of the pate. Refrigerate at least 24 hours before serving. Chicken liver pate may be stored under refrigeration up to 4 weeks.
Yield: 1 cup
http://homecooking.about.com/od/appetizerr...s/r/blapp31.htm
Mock Pate de Foie Gras Recipe
If you cannot afford expensive goose liver foie gras pate, try this version using chicken livers.
INGREDIENTS:
* 1/2 pound chicken livers, trimmed
* 1-1/4 teaspoons salt
* 1/2 cup butter, at room temperature
* 2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
* 1 teaspoon mustard
* 1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
* 1/4 teaspoon cloves
* 1/8 teaspoon cayenne
* 2 tablespoons onion juice
PREPARATION:
In a small saucepan, cover chicken livers with water to cover, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat immediately and simmer about 15 minutes. Add salt and simmer another 5 minutes until tender. Cool to room temperature in the stock.
Place cooked chicken livers, butter, Worcestershire sauce, mustard, nutmeg, cloves, cayenne pepper, and onion juice into the bowl of a food processor fitted with the metal blade. Process, adding enough of the reserved cooking stock to make a smooth paste. Taste and adjust seasonings.
Scrape into a greased crock and cover with plastic wrap, letting the wrap touch the surface of the pate. Refrigerate at least 24 hours before serving. Chicken liver pate may be stored under refrigeration up to 4 weeks.
Yield: 1 cup
http://homecooking.about.com/od/appetizerr...s/r/blapp31.htm
so far...nothing...
QUOTE(graham4anything @ May 15 2006, 03:03 PM)
so far...nothing...
Yeah, I know...
TruthOut blog:
How Accurate Was the 'Rove Indicted' Story?
By Marc Ash,
Mon May 15th, 2006 at 02:04:04 PM EDT :: Bush
(111 comments)
On Saturday afternoon, we ran a breaking story titled, "Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators." We assumed that we were well ahead of the mainstream media and that we would be subsequently questioned. Right on both counts.
What everyone is asking right now is how accurate is the story? Has Rove in fact been indicted? The story is accurate, and Karl Rove's attorneys have been served with an indictment.
In short, we had two sources close to the Fitzgerald investigation who were explicit about the information that we published, and a former high-ranking state department official who reported communication with a source who had "direct knowledge" of the meeting at Patton Boggs. In both instances, substantial detail was provided and matched.
We had confirmation. We ran the story.
How Accurate Was the 'Rove Indicted' Story?
By Marc Ash,
Mon May 15th, 2006 at 02:04:04 PM EDT :: Bush
(111 comments)
On Saturday afternoon, we ran a breaking story titled, "Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators." We assumed that we were well ahead of the mainstream media and that we would be subsequently questioned. Right on both counts.
What everyone is asking right now is how accurate is the story? Has Rove in fact been indicted? The story is accurate, and Karl Rove's attorneys have been served with an indictment.
In short, we had two sources close to the Fitzgerald investigation who were explicit about the information that we published, and a former high-ranking state department official who reported communication with a source who had "direct knowledge" of the meeting at Patton Boggs. In both instances, substantial detail was provided and matched.
We had confirmation. We ran the story.
Ah, but the corporate controlled MSM regulates what we know and "don't know". We shall see how long the media blackout lasts...
Believe me, when it comes to scandal, the media has no loyalties. This is a story that they would be all over like flies on s**t. But they obviously have not been able to confirm it yet. Normally a story like this would require two sources. Either the truthout guy's sources aren't talking to other media, or this story is dicey. We'll see.
Either that or it was practical joke time and Rove's lawyer was in on a big practical joke as were the sources
We may have been punked big time as they say these days
May we continue to pray for the health of one Chicago DA
Either that or maybe at last minute Rove gave something up in a trade?
I want Rove and Cheney, not either/or. Actually at this point I want Rove more than Cheney.
We may have been punked big time as they say these days
May we continue to pray for the health of one Chicago DA
Either that or maybe at last minute Rove gave something up in a trade?
I want Rove and Cheney, not either/or. Actually at this point I want Rove more than Cheney.
QUOTE(wundermaus @ May 15 2006, 10:32 PM)
Ah, but the corporate controlled MSM regulates what we know and "don't know". We shall see how long the media blackout lasts...
No need to be cynical on this one, VMaus. MSM would eat this up if it were in the general media. Something is rotten in DC, methinks.
would figure if the Dems once again fumbled the ball on the one yard line
The time for celebration is only afterward, not before
You gotta cross the goalline before spiking the ball
You gotta tag all bases on a home run, not run around second
You gotta have the golfball stay in the hole
The bowling pin can't wobble and stand back up
You can't say you won and forget about the yellow flag
You can't let the Bush's fall only to rise up again like Dracula
The time for celebration is only afterward, not before
You gotta cross the goalline before spiking the ball
You gotta tag all bases on a home run, not run around second
You gotta have the golfball stay in the hole
The bowling pin can't wobble and stand back up
You can't say you won and forget about the yellow flag
You can't let the Bush's fall only to rise up again like Dracula
QUOTE(graham4anything @ May 16 2006, 07:43 AM)
would figure if the Dems once again fumbled the ball on the one yard line
The time for celebration is only afterward, not before
You gotta cross the goalline before spiking the ball
You gotta tag all bases on a home run, not run around second
You gotta have the golfball stay in the hole
The bowling pin can't wobble and stand back up
You can't say you won and forget about the yellow flag
You can't let the Bush's fall only to rise up again like Dracula
The time for celebration is only afterward, not before
You gotta cross the goalline before spiking the ball
You gotta tag all bases on a home run, not run around second
You gotta have the golfball stay in the hole
The bowling pin can't wobble and stand back up
You can't say you won and forget about the yellow flag
You can't let the Bush's fall only to rise up again like Dracula
And the cliches have to start sounding original...
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