Are the media part of the checks and balances that keep government honest? Of course. However, in a one-party government, with the media owned by the same people as that party and only reporting what that party approves, this country resembles some other kind of government than a democracy. What if the media ignores this fact? What if the media ignores the fact that Bush put those school children into danger on Sept. 11, 2001? What if the media ignores voter fraud in the 2004 election? What if the media ignores the organized crime suits brought against Bush, Cheney, et al, for their part in 9/11? What else has the media been ignoring? A country without truthful media is without freedom of speech.

The Internet seems to be such a good place to discuss things, but you can't show your opinions to those opposed to you. I think that we should be calling on some of the larger organizations to take out full-page ads and full minute prime-time (during sports games and favorite shows) commercials about these concerns. We need those charts and graphs which explain the concerns. If the media won't report on it, we can explain that they won't, and that these messages are paid for.

It is very cynical, to say the least, on the part of the media to tell only the story that they are paid to tell, but if that is the only way this story can be reported, then it must be reported by paying for it. I am hoping that some of the organizations which helped in the 2004 election will help in this.

I think this is a great idea, because I was thinking of the same earlier!
But I was thinking more along the lines of letting the public know what was hiding in those bills that were passed over the last few day - abortion, $ cut for college,
Bush's yacht.... and who knows what else?!!

If we could find an organization to be in charge, and if we all committed $5.00 a month... we could get our word out to the mainstream media.

Or get togehter enough resources to take out a full page add in the NYT or WSJ.

Well, I can tell you that a full page, black & white ad in the WSJ runs about $198,000.

I can also honestly say that people with the resources to bankroll this sort of thing (or at least the majority of it) are well.... I will not use the word 'conservative'... how about 'cautious', 'prudent'?

They are not going to jump in with both feet if all that is brought to them is conspiracy theories. And worse: if they are called names if they do not immediately agree with you.

Think of how *I* have been treated here.

In all honesty, I could put together a group of 10 or 15 people who could fund this sort of project (likely in both papers) tomorrow. But, like I said, take a look at how you have already treated someone who asks questions, who wants to make sure things are 'ship shape' and who does not come right out and agree with the majority here......

You have a point Bross. To get a corporate sponsor or phianthropic venture capital like folks, a more prudent message would be needed. Not coming out of the gate with "The damn thing was stolen" Rather a citation perhaps that lists some of the facts ( like the 23 felony charges of the 5 Diebold developers and vice president) ( or something) that merely creates a call to action a test of teh legitimacy of this election and future elections.

I think the berkeley study sums it up for those folks:

http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/

They want this national study and they want this, and start printing it all over their papers....

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/Story.asp?ID=4688
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

Because it shows where the Diebold employees were even criminals and former felons.

No matter what I think personally about anybody, my point is that we need some "charts and graphs" listing the frauds being investigated, the lawsuits against Bush & Cheney concerning 911, how Bush didn't stop reading to those children on 9/11/01 to protect their safety even if he did not care about his safety, etc.

Not too wordy, but very visual. (I saw a funny chart the other day showing that Bush has given much more money to Planned Parenthood than any other President, with the figures listed.)

I've seen a number of great websites; the only trouble with them is that they are websites and not something that everybody in the world sees. I know that some organizations out there could do a good job with this. The Thanksgiving Day Parade is coming up, and the football game! I know that is expensive media, but aren't there some people out there who are able to do this, and fast?

When did George Soros go over to the "dark side"?

what about moveon.org?

Make them use the charts from Berkeley:

http://ucdata.berkeley.edu

That's more than enough right there....Covers all their fences

That is the way it should be done perhaps.... but I keep coming back to Swift Boat ads, the McCain ads BushCo put out and the ones who declared the amputee who fought in Vietnam unpatriotic, while those who did not serve were the ones trashing, and I have to disagree.

Plenty of investors LIE!

If you need media coverage at cost I have ways to get a full page

NY Times for under $50,000 WSJ would be on quote and day

I buy half page ads every week

Why don't you start a fund with the activists and buy page columns for the regular week end news start getting the word in front page?

Ha! Yes, bross's little insinuation that the "conservatives" are all the ones with the cash is hysterical. There are plenty of filthy rich liberals in this world. And I'm sure they would be more than happy to help bankroll ads that are written, how shall I put this..."creatively" and "intelligently" and "with finesse".

As someone who has spent my whole career in newspaper advertising.... I say "thank you" for your business! Yeck, we've probably even negotiated ad rates before and didn't even know it!