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Activisms
I have seen email now that the Kerry daughters will be on Larry King Live tonight talking about the serious issue of fraud in public finally, and what many of us know and believe, that there has not been a more important time to stand up.

Whoever inside these corporations is at the source of this dark deed and helped hackers and fellow criminals instigate it needs to be exposed in front of the whole world.....
marie
thanks.....
dennisjames
I have seen email now that the Kerry daughters will be on Larry King Live tonight talking about the serious issue of fraud in public finally, and what many of us know and believe, that there has not been a more important time to stand up.

Whoever inside these corporations is at the source of this dark deed and helped hackers and fellow criminals instigate it needs to be exposed in front of the whole world.....



What time is it on?
Activisms
Airs in one hour, time is ticking down...
Activisms
She's talking about it and nailing the issue into the ground....Great speech


And they aren't suggesting the election will be overturned....Kerry is always careful about choosing his words, good work!
katethedem44
Gosh, it's so sad to watch them. They should be First Daughters instead of those cocked monkies there now. sad.gif
dee60
watching right now---these young ladies are pure class like their father.
JILLinaz
I don't know about the rest of you, but Vanessa Kerry won my heart during the campaign, the girl is brilliant! And the love for her father lit up her whole face...I thought about her after 'he lost', thinking how crushed she must've been. Kerry should be proud. Just look at the outcome of the daughters - compare his to the Bush brats... that says something about good leadership right there! Can't wait to watch!
ultraist
I posted a bit ago that I wont be surprised if Alex brings up voter fraud tonight on Larry King!!! So, I hope your email is correct.

Go Alex and Vanessa!
Activisms
QUOTE(ultraist @ Nov 22 2004, 08:11 PM)
I posted a bit ago that I wont be surprised if Alex brings up voter fraud tonight on Larry King!!! So, I hope your email is correct.

Go Alex and Vanessa!
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Look at this!

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"I think it is very important to recognize the difference between what our own print media and media in general says may not at all be what is really happening, and its been demonstrated with the public now, I knew it and could feel it in New York that night. And we should not talk about the would haves and the could haves when there is a cloak over our very elections to the danger that it is, of what happened on November 2nd."


Go VANESSA!!!! You rock!!!! :o :o :o
beg1958
mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif I MISSED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOMEBODY GIVE ME SOME DETAILS sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
Activisms
QUOTE(beg1958 @ Nov 22 2004, 08:23 PM)
mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif I MISSED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SOMEBODY GIVE ME SOME DETAILS  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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Its still on, CNN larry king.
beg1958
QUOTE(Activisms @ Nov 22 2004, 09:24 PM)
Its still on, CNN larry king.
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The only part I saw was when they said good bye blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif
rox63
There will probably be a transcript available on the site tomorrow.

They didn't talk about fraud, but they did mention that the votes are still being counted.
PaineInTheArse
QUOTE(Activisms @ Nov 22 2004, 09:05 PM)
I have seen email now that the Kerry daughters will be on Larry King Live tonight talking about the serious issue of fraud in public finally, and what many of us know and believe, that there has not been a more important time to stand up.

Whoever inside these corporations is at the source of this dark deed and helped hackers and fellow criminals instigate it needs to be exposed in front of the whole world.....
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Cam Kerry was on Emily (daughter of Andy) Rooney's Boston-based "Greater Boston" this evening at 7PM.

He gave absolutely no indication that anything was in the works, other than he supported the 17,000 attorneys who were "insuring that every vote was counted".

Glad to see Activisms is back!
ultraist
Activisms: Did Vanessa say this tonight? I missed the first part!

"I think it is very important to recognize the difference between what our own print media and media in general says may not at all be what is really happening, and its been demonstrated with the public now, I knew it and could feel it in New York that night. And we should not talk about the would haves and the could haves when there is a cloak over our very elections to the danger that it is, of what happened on November 2nd."

BTW, we were all wondering where you were on the other thread and there was some speculating about this. lol.gif Something about a freeper who was stalking you and you reacting???
Activisms
QUOTE(ultraist @ Nov 22 2004, 08:34 PM)
Activisms: Did Vanessa say this tonight? I missed the first part!

"I think it is very important to recognize the difference between what our own print media and media in general says may not at all be what is really happening, and its been demonstrated with the public now, I knew it and could feel it in New York that night. And we should not talk about the would haves and the could haves when there is a cloak over our very elections to the danger that it is, of what happened on November 2nd."

BTW, we were all wondering where you were on the other thread and there was some speculating about this.  lol.gif Something about a freeper who was stalking you and you reacting???
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Yes she really did say that and her sister backed her up!!!! They covered the Media Blackout like it was an evil layer killing democracy and I, definitely agreed. Those exact words were used save she spent a little longer talking about New York in that paragraph.
buffbison
(OT)

to be honest, i think the kerry sisters are much better looking than the bush sisters!
vet65/69
QUOTE(Activisms @ Nov 22 2004, 09:11 PM)
Yes she really did say that and her sister backed her up!!!! They covered the Media Blackout like it was an evil layer killing democracy and I, definitely agreed. Those exact words were used save she spent a little longer talking about New York in that paragraph.
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i can't post about the f#$%^^ are his sta%^& it was deleted before gues i have watch my %^&^& rolleyes.gif
ultraist
Thanks for the info Activists---glad to see you didn't get banned for blowing up on a freeper! lol.gif
ultraist
QUOTE(vet65/69 @ Nov 22 2004, 09:17 PM)
i can't post about the f#$%^^  are his sta%^& it was deleted before gues i have watch my %^&^&    rolleyes.gif
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WHAT? blink.gif
wordslightfires
Love the look of Democracy! Way to go!
ultraist
QUOTE(wordslightfires @ Nov 22 2004, 09:25 PM)
Love the look of Democracy! Way to go!
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It's great to see spirits lifted around here too. wink.gif

Join this cause!
Sapphire
For those who may be interested -

Larry King replays every night at 4 AM Eastern; 3 AM Central; 2 AM Mountain and 1 AM Pacific on CNN

His show is the only one I ever watch on CNN - I don't always agree with Larry King, but I am ever facinated with some of the guests he brings on. A few weeks ago I was riveted by an interview he did with Jerry Lewis - amazing interview!
Acryliccalico
Thank you! Finally, Thank you!!
PaineInTheArse
QUOTE(buffbison @ Nov 22 2004, 11:15 PM)
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to be honest, i think the kerry sisters are much better looking than the bush sisters!
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Oh, please.

How does this relate to the thread?
KenL007
QUOTE(PaineInTheArse @ Nov 22 2004, 10:40 PM)
Oh, please. 

How does this relate to the thread?
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I don't know, but I'll second it. The Kerry girls are way hot......

<drool>

wink.gif
Activisms
QUOTE(PaineInTheArse @ Nov 22 2004, 09:40 PM)
Oh, please. 

How does this relate to the thread?
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Hey no harm done...Maybe some youth want to marry them someday or their cousins, who knows, either way democracy wins for all!!!! :o :o :o
gduval
QUOTE(PaineInTheArse @ Nov 22 2004, 10:40 PM)
Oh, please. 

How does this relate to the thread?
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Class man! Thems gots some class!

A friend emailed me about the Bush twins in NYC trying to get into a restaurant. The matredee ( damn spelling) told them they were going to be full for the next four years. There was applause apparently that followed.

I haven't been able to confirm this report. But that would be interesting.... while one pair are being given respect of the airwaves, the other pair's self-entitlement is not respected. wink.gif
Buster0001
SHOOT, I missed it. It is replayed at 11:00 CENTRAL, though.
And I was going to bed early tonight. NOT.
Smartcor
It will be on again in a half hour, at midnight ET. So, get ready. I missed it earlier as well so I am taping this one in case I fall asleep. :D

Then, they will repeat it 3 hours later, 3AM ET.
PaineInTheArse
CNN LARRY KING LIVE

Interview With Vanessa, Alexandra Kerry; Interview With Rick Warren

Aired November 22, 2004 - 21:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight, exclusive: John Kerry's daughters, Vanessa and Alexandra Kerry, in their first interview since the election.
And then, Reverend Rick Warren. His huge best-seller, "The Purpose-Driven Life," has sold more than 20 million copies through 38 printings, and he's launched a worldwide phenomenon. What is the purpose-driven life? And can non-Christians lead one? Reverend Rick Warren. He'll take your calls, too. It's all next on LARRY KING LIVE.

Welcome to another edition of LARRY KING LIVE. We begin tonight for the first two segments with two of our favorite people, the Kerry sisters. Vanessa is in London. She is the daughter of John Kerry and his first wife, Julia Thorne. She's on leave, by the way, from Harvard Medical School and is a Fulbright scholar in London.

And in New York is Alexandra -- Alex Kerry. Also, the daughter of John and Julia, has a graduate degree from the American Film Institute. She is a filmmaker and actress. We thank them both. This is their first interview since the election.

How tough was it for you? We'll start with Vanessa.

VANESSA KERRY, JOHN KERRY'S DAUGHTER: It was an interesting evening, certainly. And it was sad. But I have to be very honest. I really felt just the greatest sadness for all the people we'd met along the trail, who had given up their hopes, who had given up their prayers, their real desire for change. When you see somebody and you have someone cry on your shoulder and say, "I do not know what I am going to do if your dad does not get elected," it's kind of hard not to think about them as the evening passes, and for everybody who volunteered. It was -- the effort, the time, I think it's just hard that you suddenly go different ways.

KING: Alex, when we had those exit polls that turned out to be wrong, but you saw them in the afternoon. What was that like for you? And then were you up and then down?

ALEXANDRA KERRY, JOHN KERRY'S DAUGHTER: There was a moment of excitement, but I think we have learned from my father, in the sense that you don't -- you hold your breath until the end. So everybody was waiting and really waiting to see what was going to happen with the rest of the votes. My dad was doing satellite up until the last minute through the night. We were doing radio calls. Vanessa did some television. So everyone was really working until the late hours of the night.

KING: Did it feel, Alex, like somewhat of a roller coaster?

A. KERRY: The entire experience? Or just that night?

KING: Just that night.

A. KERRY: Yeah. There was a roller coaster. I mean, the whole campaign had been a roller coaster. I hear my sister laughing in my ear. So she obviously thinks I'm underestimating what happened. I definitely ...

V. KERRY: I'm in agreement with you.

A. KERRY: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's definitely -- you just didn't know what was happening, and it's just one day that you worked so hard for, and I think we concentrated so much on the process of the experience, about reaching out to people and talking to people that it was mostly a surprise that it all comes down to this 24-hour period.

KING: Now, Vanessa, what are you shaking your head about?

V. KERRY: I guess, you know -- is it a roller coaster? It is. It's an incredible experience, though. And I think that you live these great emotions. There are moments of just extraordinary joy. And I remember being in Bloomer, Wisconsin standing on a stage with fireworks going and these huge crowds and just feeling so proud of dad and so proud of what I felt was happening in the country. And then, you know, you have these other moments when you are so tired and you're so exhausted and you are staring at a health econ book, and you know you can't read another sentence. And you are trying to fight for something you believe in, and you're thinking, "I can't take another step, I can't do this." But you want to, and you do, and then you find yourself waking up a week after it's all over saying, "What just happened and where am I and what's next?"

And it's just been an incredible journey and one that I am so thankful for. It was amazing to have this time with my family. I'm actually going to see Andre tonight, which is really nice, and it just -- you -- I just learned not to take a single thing for granted, and I think it just is extraordinary. And I'm so, so proud of my father, my step-mother, my sister, all of us. And of this country for what we created as a country for the number of people who voted.

I mean, it's extraordinary when you look at the numbers who went out to vote, and I think that that gave me a great deal of encouragement and excitement.

KING: Alex, was there a moment when you knew that your dad had lost?

A. KERRY: Not until my uncle came in the next morning and said that he was going to concede. I am not sure how much I slept that night, but I went to bed at 3 a.m., and we were still hopeful. And since the beginning of this campaign, my father and John Edwards said that they were going to count every vote, which they are still doing, out of respect for the people that they made promises to, and so I think we were still going to fight until the last minute.

And Vanessa alluded to this earlier, but they're still fighting. Not, maybe, in the sense of an active campaign for the presidency, but in terms of fighting for people, and I think it's so important.

I mean, I'm in New York right now, which is in an obvious state of mourning, and I think it's so important that people realize that there is hope, and if we move on with that hope and still believe that there's a fight to be had that even though it might not be in the structure of the presidential race, that people still need to respect what they believed in and what we believed in and to please push forward and move on. So there was that losing moment, and of course, the speech, which was incredibly moving. And I think he did such a good job at that, where you -- it spins by you -- I mean, I use film terms because I'm a filmmaker, but it's sort of like this reel of the entire year going through with the voice-over of his speech, and I think that was a very powerful moment. But my dad got up the next day and kept working, and that's what's important, I think.

KING: Vanessa, is there at all a woulda-shoulda-coulda about it? Have you had moments when you said, "Maybe an extra day in Ohio or maybe we should have done this?"

V. KERRY: No. I mean, was the outcome what we wanted? No. But the truth is that I think the most important thing and the place that we have all come to, and I think came to pretty quickly, is that there are a huge number -- there are millions of Americans that gave out the hope and belief in us and fought alongside us and were a part of something incredible. And I think we created something incredible as a Democratic group, as a platform, as an effort to make a change in the country, and I think we did change this country. And I think we will continue to, and I know that my father is not going to stop fighting.

You know, he is back in the Senate now, and he is going to be doing work on health care, and he is going to be doing work for the American people across the board. For him, he is still carrying this story, he is still carrying that hope. We are as a family.

And I think for me, and I think I speak for my sister when I say this, there are so many young people who got involved in this process for the first time, and I think it's important that even if they cast their vote for our father or whoever they cast their vote for, they continue to keep their idealism and their real beliefs that they can be a part of change. Because that's what this is about.

I, for one, am actually still incredibly idealistic, and I still can credibly or very strongly believe that you have to keep fighting for what you believe in, because it's only when you stop that you've truly lost. And I just -- you know, I am looking forward to the next months and even years ahead. I might be doing it through a health policy angle, but that's what's important to me and that's how I keep fighting. And I think we're all going to pick our battles and keep going forward.

KING: Alex, what about the stories about the inner fighting -- "Newsweek" ran that long story about people were saying this and blaming your stepmother, and how do you react to all of that?

A. KERRY: I didn't actually read that article, and it's a hard one for me. I'm not going to -- the campaign is over, and I am now coming back into my own being, in a sense, and representing my own opinions in some sense, but I also feel I am here representing my dad. And I think that the press has a great challenge ahead of them in the next four years, in terms of really looking at how they affect the world and how they speak their truth, and I think that I'm sure there are mistakes that we made on our campaign, but I think it's very important to be responsible to actually what really happens and what didn't happen, and I think it's very dangerous when you start to believe everything you read.

After experiencing something historical, I have now been able to look at -- to juxtapose what goes into print and what one actually experiences, and it was very interesting for me. I think I would second what my sister said earlier about looking at the could'ves and the should'ves in the past, and it's so important not to do that. I mean, philosophically in life it's so important not to do that, and I think in the case of the campaign it's so important not to do that.

Everyone worked together, they worked positively, and they worked for one cause. And I think it was very unified.

KING: We'll take a break and be back with some more moments with Vanessa Kerry and Alexandra Kerry on this edition of LARRY KING LIVE, and then Rick Warren, author of the runaway best-seller, "The Purpose- Driven Life." Right back with the Kerry sisters after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: We owe so much to our families. They're here with us today. They were with us every single step of the way. They sustained us. They went out on their own and they multiplied our campaign all across this country. No one did this more with grace and with courage and candor that I love than my wife, Teresa. And I thank her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KING: We're back. Vanessa Kerry is in London. Alexandra Kerry is in New York. Vanessa, would you want to go through it again? Would you want your dad to try again?

V. KERRY: I have to say, I think despite the outcome, this was the most incredible experience I've had to date in many, many ways. It was a real honor and a real privilege to be a part of this campaign, to meet the people, to hear the stories, to work with everyone. I for one, just to address sort of the last question, we're so proud of everybody on this campaign for how hard they fought, for fighting for what they believe in. And I think that everybody I watched be a part of this, I thought they did extraordinary jobs. And whether it's my family or people involved in this campaign, and I personally would do it again in a heartbeat.

Do I need a rest? Yes. But it was really an incredible experience, and I thank this country, and I thank everybody I worked with for helping to be a part of it.

KING: Alex, were you with your dad when he called President Bush?

A. KERRY: No, I was not. I wasn't with him then.

KING: How did he take it personally when you were together? You know, the first time you saw him the next morning?

A. KERRY: That's a good question. To tell you the truth, it's all a little bit of a blur to me now. He dealt with the whole thing with the most incredible dignity and honor. I don't think I ever would have been able to do that, or imagine such a moment or task, but it's the same person that I saw throughout the entire campaign. And it's so interesting. I think I said this the last time we were on the show, you grow up with someone and you know their strengths, you know their attributes and you know their potential, and I was constantly surprised by this person who is my father, in terms of his leadership and his dignity throughout the process. Not because I didn't expect it, but because he always upped the ante and it was always -- you know, he was getting better and better and better throughout the entire process, and I think that that really, in a way, came together with that incredible sense of leadership and incredible sense of dignity on that final day on November 3rd.

And he just -- I can't say it enough, that he just kept working and that he's still working for the country.

KING: Vanessa, I know that your father had prostate cancer. Your mom, a very private person, completed a course for cancer treatment. Have you spoken to Elizabeth Edwards, and what do you hear?

V. KERRY: I talked to Kate quite a bit in the beginning of all of that, and you know, I certainly try to continue to lend my support. It is never a fun position to be in, and I just -- our prayers are with them, and we will be there fighting alongside them through all this. And I -- if there is ever a woman who has a great deal of strength and a great deal of fight and a great deal of just hope and courage, it is Elizabeth Edwards, and I feel very confident that she is going to come through this with flying colors, and she certainly has all of our thoughts and prayers.

KING: What, Alex, didn't you like about the campaign? You can't like everything. We know you were exhilarated. We know you liked the people. What didn't you like about a presidential political campaign?

A. KERRY: I always get this question, so I should be well- practiced in it. I -- you know, the hours, being removed from your normal life, your friends, having a life at all. It's very grueling. It's very taxing. It's like a constant performance. Not in the sense that you are being someone other than yourself, but that you are constantly on. And for someone who enjoys some private time, that was definitely a challenge for me, personally.

KING: Vanessa, is there any bitterness over some of the things that occurred? There always is in campaigns. The swift boat issue and that kind of thing. Do you bear any lingering anger?

V. KERRY: No. I mean, to be honest, I bear some frustration at the outcome, and sort of, you know, maybe I would say that's it. But there's one lesson I learned from my father through this. And I learned actually a lot -- well, no, not one, I learned a lot of lessons from my father, and we talked about this and I said to him -- I wanted to tell him sort of privately what I had learned just from watching who he was through this process.

But one of the things I learned is that when you fight for something you believe in and you tell the truth and you do your best, you can always hold your head up high and no one can take that away from you. And I think that -- I feel that my father, as my sister said, just fought with the greatest dignity. This whole campaign did. And I -- you know, when you're a part of something you really believe in and you're a part of something that's so much bigger than you -- and it never was about my father, it was never about us. This was always about the American people, and returning hope, and bringing them help, and created a change that really fought for this country.

And I think that, for example, this president said when he won that he wants to really unite this country and bring together all the 53 million that voted -- or the 56 million that voted for my father, you know, along with the 59 who voted for him, and I think I hope he does that, because that's what this was about, about uniting this country and creating a better future.

And I'd like to see that happen, and I think that's a part of what we tried to create. And so for me, when you are a part of something like that, it's hard not to feel proud and to hold your head up high and to look forward and to know that you're going to keep fighting in maybe a different way, but constantly going forward to continue to achieve what you'd hoped for.

KING: Alex, you working on a film now?

A. KERRY: I am. I am. I'm working on a documentary from the campaign, and one of the things that my sister just said -- it made me think about the fact that ultimately in a campaign the goal is to win, but one of the things that I learned was that I never realized that there is very important aspects of the process that you learn about and that you see. I mean, there are 10 million more people who voted in this election, that were ignited, that were motivated, than in previous elections. There are many people that I met along the trail who came up to me and said, "I am a 54-year-old woman. I have never voted in my life. This is my first election."

I can't tell you how many people I met who said that to me, and I think those are very important things to look at where the Democratic Party is right now, who is motivated, how they were motivated, the things that grew out of this experience. And I just wanted to add that on to my sister, and I think ... KING: Well said.

A. KERRY: ... hopefully, you know, the documentary -- I mean, I don't mean this in the sense of serving myself, I'm just saying that some of that story I think is part of my experience, and hopefully will be seen in the film. And I think it's important that people look at that part of the process, also.

KING: When it's all done, you'll come back. We salute you both. Continued good luck and good health.

A. KERRY: Yes. Thank you.

KING: Nice seeing you. Vanessa Kerry in London ...

V. KERRY: Thank you.

KING: Alexandra Kerry in New York.

A. KERRY: Thank you.

KING: We thank them both for this exclusive first interview since the election.

Rick Warren has written one of the hottest books in years. It's "The Purpose-Driven Life." He is next. Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/22/lkl.01.html
PaineInTheArse
QUOTE(gduval @ Nov 23 2004, 12:05 AM)
A friend emailed me about the Bush twins in NYC trying to get into a restaurant. The matredee ( damn spelling) told them they were going to be full for the next four years. There was applause apparently that followed.

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That "gossip" was posted here this morning. Comes from some pop culture celebrity-spotting site. The tag line is "we'll have no tables for 4 years".

I'd like to believe it but sounds like an urban legend to me.

Now back to the topic at hand, voter fraud, not glitz and puff.
Smartcor
It is on right now!
lawnorder
QUOTE(gduval @ Nov 22 2004, 10:05 PM)
Class man! Thems gots some class!

A friend emailed me about the Bush twins in NYC trying to get into a restaurant. The matredee ( damn spelling) told them they were going to be full for the next four years. There was applause apparently that followed.

I haven't been able to confirm this report. But that would be interesting.... while one pair are being given respect of the airwaves, the other pair's self-entitlement is not respected. wink.gif
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It's true. It was on Daily Kos. Freeman's Restaurant confirmed it
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Gossip: Bush Twins denied seats in NY restaurant

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/19/133255/05

Oops! Forgive my gloating, but I thought this was incredibly funny... No Blue State Special for them!! I guess they'll have to go do their power drinking in a "red" state... heh.

From gawker.com :

Freemans tuesday night the 16th of nov. the bush twins along with 2 massive secret service men tried to have dinner they were told by the maitre 'd that they were full and would be for the next 4 years upon hearing the entire restaurant cheered and did a round of shots it was amazing!!!

[Ed: We're hearing that this is actually true.]

http://www.gawker.com/news/culture/stalker...-den-026053.php
Activisms
QUOTE(lawnorder @ Nov 23 2004, 02:01 AM)
It's true. It was on Daily Kos. Freeman's Restaurant confirmed it
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Wow...They reported it, now isn't that a stink bomb for the national legitimacy of the president..... :o :o :o blink.gif
Desron
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It's true. It was on Daily Kos. Freeman's Restaurant confirmed it


There was a thread over at the General Discussion forum concerning this and one poster said she called up Freeman's and they said the story was false. The thread was deleted.
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