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Snuffysmith
THE WORLD ACCORDING TO RUMMY - FROM A SECRET MEMO TITLED "ILLUSTRATIVE NEW 21ST CENTURY INSTITUTIONS AND APPROACHES" OBTAINED BY JOURNALIST BOB WOODWARD (WASHINGTON POST, OCTOBER 8): "Strategic communications ... A new U.S. agency for global communication could serve as a channel to inform, educate and compete in the battle for ideas. ... Today the centers of gravity of the conflict in Iraq and the global war on terror are not on battlefields overseas. Rather, the center of gravity of this war are on the centers of public opinion in the U.S. and in the capitals of free nations."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...0601384_pf.html
Marine
So if it's a secret memo why is it in the Washington Post?

Is this a competition with the New York Times to see which newspaper can become al Qaida's main intelligence source?
Snuffysmith
Don Rumsfeld Bats Both Ways

By Chris Floyd

The nuclear blast test that North Korea conducted this week is not only the result of the Bush Administration's incompetent and sinister diplomatic philosophy – which seems to consist solely of provoking unfriendly regimes into countermeasures which can then be used as excuses for war-profiteering "regime change" assaults – but also stems from the overwhelming lust for loot that lies behind the noble rhetoric of the third-rate goons of the Bush Gang.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15254.htm
winston smith
QUOTE(Marine @ Oct 10 2006, 11:13 AM)
So if it's a secret memo why is it in the Washington Post?

Is this a competition with the New York Times to see which newspaper can become al Qaida's main intelligence source?
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huh? blink.gif
flydangler
QUOTE(winston smith @ Oct 10 2006, 11:20 PM)
huh?
SFC_White
Reading the article; I agree with Mr Rumsfeld that there is a battle ragging in the public media. One in which the US government is ill prepared nor set up to fight.

I disagree with him that this is worthy of pursuit by our Government in what I infer from reading may include covert publications and government sponsered communication "experts".

I can honestly say that no one read papers in Iraq; and those that did held everything they read as suspect (call it a learned response from the Saddam era). Why we are (or were) bumbling around setting up media outlets... is a good question.

Most of the communication happens in first person and then is only re-enforced by the news media.

The only way to beat that is with up front and personal face time; face time on the street, in local counsel, religous leaders and village elder meetings.

There is quite a bit of mis information out there:

http://www.defenselink.mil/home/dodupdate/correct-record/

All in the name of selling papers.

I equate public opinion to an angry mob were people file like wingless birds off the cliff.

I would like to see us raise the bar; and see the opinion polls, public opinion and the mob for what it is. ... but that will never happen.

From my self learned ground guide leader hand book:

In general you have two choices in almost any situation --- Polarize or mediate; unless your have power in the form of money, position (a gun) or a larger mob; Mediate

MSG White
cardinal
QUOTE(SFC_White @ Oct 11 2006, 11:37 AM)
Reading the article;  I agree with Mr Rumsfeld that there is a battle ragging in the public media.  One in which the US government is ill prepared nor set up to fight.

I disagree with him that this is worthy of pursuit by our Government in what I infer from reading may include covert publications and government sponsered communication "experts".

I can honestly say that no one read papers in Iraq; and those that did held everything they read as suspect (call it a learned response from the Saddam era).  Why we are (or were) bumbling around setting up media outlets... is a good question.

Most of the communication happens in first person and then is only re-enforced by the news media. 

The only way to beat that is with up front and personal face time; face time on the street, in local counsel, religous leaders and village elder meetings.

There is quite a bit of mis information out there: 

http://www.defenselink.mil/home/dodupdate/correct-record/

All in the name of selling papers.

I equate public opinion to an angry mob were people file like wingless birds off the cliff. 

I would like to see us raise the bar; and see the opinion polls, public opinion and the mob for what it is. ... but that will never happen. 

From my self learned ground guide leader hand book:

In general you have two choices in almost any situation --- Polarize or mediate;  unless your have power in the form of money, position (a gun) or a larger mob;  Mediate

MSG White
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Intersting, just the opposite of how we tend to get our information here only the news is supplemented by blogs or forums or are you referring to the US? The end result appears to be about the same, much speculation and little in the way of facts and by that I mean that move beyond the obvious.
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