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Snuffysmith
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Bush Accepts Iraq-Vietnam Comparison
George Stephanopoulos Interviews President Bush on Iraq, the Midterms and His Legacy

By ED O'KEEFE

WASHINGTON, Oct. 18, 2006 — President Bush said in a one-on-one interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos that a newspaper column comparing the current fighting in Iraq to the 1968 Tet offensive in Vietnam, which was widely seen as the turning point in that war, might be accurate.

Stephanopoulos asked whether the president agreed with the opinion of columnist Tom Friedman, who wrote in The New York Times today that the situation in Iraq may be equivalent to the Tet offensive in Vietnam almost 40 years ago.

"He could be right," the president said, before adding, "There's certainly a stepped-up level of violence, and we're heading into an election."

"George, my gut tells me that they have all along been trying to inflict enough damage that we'd leave," Bush said. "And the leaders of al Qaeda have made that very clear. Look, here's how I view it. First of all, al Qaeda is still very active in Iraq. They are dangerous. They are lethal. They are trying to not only kill American troops, but they're trying to foment sectarian violence. They believe that if they can create enough chaos, the American people will grow sick and tired of the Iraqi effort and will cause government to withdraw."

Bush said he could not imagine any circumstances under which all U.S. troops would be withdrawn from Iraq before the end of his presidency.

"You mean every single troop out? No," he told Stephanopoulos.

Bush also had some tough words for Democrats, saying that pulling troops from Iraq would be the equivalent of surrender.

"If we were to leave before the job is done, in my judgment, the al Qaeda would find a safe haven from which to attack. This is exactly what they said," Bush said. The president insisted he was not disparaging his opponents.

"It's not questioning their patriotism. I think it's questioning their judgment," he said.

When asked whether the midterm elections are a referendum on Iraq, the President replied, "I think they're a referendum, from my perspective, which is kind of like your perspective, which is the Washington perspective, based upon: who best to secure this country from further attack and who best to help this economy continue to grow. The truth of the matter is, as you well know, most elections are very local elections. Sometimes those issues are salient, but sometimes there's other issues at the local level as well."

"I'm not on the ballot," Bush said. "This set of elections is much different from a presidential election year."

Stephanopoulos pointed out that 72 Democrats running for the House had used Bush in their campaign ads.

"Are they saying good things?" Bush joked. "Look, maybe that strategy will work; maybe it won't work. I've always found that when a person goes in to vote, they're going to want to know what that person's going to do. What is the plan for a candidate on Iraq? What do they believe?"

Bush said he reads "every casualty."

"The hardest part of the presidency is to meet with families who've lost a loved one," he said.

October is shaping up to be one of the bloodiest months in Iraq since the war began, and the president assessed the situation somberly: "I'm patient. I'm not patient forever. But I recognize the degree of difficulty of the task, and therefore, say to the American people, we won't cut and run."

On the issue of North Korea, said bluntly that if the rogue nation sold nuclear missiles to Iran or al Qaeda, "They'd be held to account."

Stephanopoulos noted that after last week's latest nuclear missile test out of North Korea, the president referred to the country as a "grave threat," a phrase Bush has used only once during his six years in office, in reference to Iraq before the U.S. invasion of that country. He asked the president what he means by that phrase now.

"Well, time they find out, George," Bush said. "One of the things that's important for these world leaders to hear is, you know, we will use means necessary to hold them to account.

"If we get intelligence that they're about to transfer a nuclear weapon, we would stop the transfer, and we would deal with the ships that were taking the — or the airplane that was dealing with taking the material to somebody," he said.

"My point is that I want the leader to understand — the leader of North Korea to understand that he'll be held to account," Bush said. "Just like he's being held to account now for having run a test."

Bush also suggested that China may be more committed to the recent round of U.N. sanctions than it has let on in public statements.

"I'm getting a little different picture from Condi [Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice]," he said. "They don't particularly want to board ships. But, on the other hand, if there's good intelligence, they'll work with us on that intelligence. They're inspecting cargoes coming across their border."

He insisted China was not "half committed" to the sanctions.

Moving away from the controversial issues likely to play a critical role in the 2006 midterms, Stephanopoulos asked the two-term incumbent which personal quality is going to be important for the next president.

"Determination and compassion," Bush said. When asked what advice he might have for his successor, Bush told ABC News, "Stand on principle."


Tune in to "Nightline," "Good Morning America" and "This Week," and check back at www.abcnews.com for more of George Stephanopoulos' one-on-one interview with President Bush.
Marine
Well, well, well. I watched that interview and he's right. The insurgents in Iraq have stepped up their activities to influence the US elections. Seems they think they'll get a better deal if they change the team they have to deal with.

Personally, I don't care who controls congress, but is the democrats win and if the democrats decide cut and run is what they ought to do, I'll have the permanent dilema of not being able to trust the democratic party to do what's best for this country.
Snuffysmith
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/print...A/10076003.html


Bush makes Iraq admission
http://archive.gulfnews.com/world/U.S.A/10076003.html

10/19/2006 04:08 PM | Agencies

Washington: US President George W Bush has admitted for the first time that there could be a similarity between the violence in Iraq and the Vietnam war.

He said that claims that the current level of killing could be compared with the infamous Tet Offensive in Vietnam "could be right".

The Tet Offensive was a series of sustained attacks launched by the North Vietnamese in 1968 which is largely thought to have helped turn public opinion against the war.

Bush told ABC News that insurgents were trying to inflict so much damage that the US forces would leave Iraq.

He added: "There's certainly a stepped up level of violence.

"First of all, Al-Qaeda is still very active in Iraq. They are dangerous. They are lethal. They are trying to not only kill
American troops, but they're trying to foment sectarian violence.

"They believe that if they can create enough chaos, the American people will grow sick and tired of the Iraqi effort and will cause
(the) government to withdraw."

After the interview, the White House clarified the president's comments, saying the comparison was about the propoganda war waged in the Tet offensive, and that "the enemy is trying to shake our will".

The comparison between Iraq's recent rise in violence and the Tet Offensive was raised by New York Times and Gulf News columnist Thomas Friedman.

He described the current situation as "the jihadist equivalent of the Tet offensive."

In his column he said: "Total US troop deaths in Iraq this month have reached 53, putting October on a path to be the third deadliest month of the entire war for the US military. Iraqis are now being killed at the rate of 100 a day now...

"The jihadists want to sow so much havoc that Bush supporters will be defeated in the midterms and the president will face a revolt from his own party, as well as from the Democrats, if he does not begin a pullout from Iraq."

Thomas Friedman's column can be found in the October 19 print edition of Gulf News.
Snuffysmith
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americ...icle1904953.ece

Echoes of the Tet offensive, when US became 'mired in a stalemate'
By Andrew Gumbel
Published: 20 October 2006
The Tet offensive marked the moment when what had been seen as a relatively manageable overseas conflict involving the United States turned into something much more messy.

The assaults launched by the Viet Cong against the South Vietnamese and their US military allies in early 1968 - coinciding with the Tet festival, or lunar new year -- were a military fiasco. But the size of the offensive, the dramatic increase in US troop numbers it triggered, and the consequent loss of life on all sides, weighed heavily on US public opinion and led to Lyndon Johnson's refusal to seek re-election in that year's presidential race.

The Viet Cong attacked on six specific targets in Saigon, including the American embassy, the National Broadcasting Station and the office of President Nguyen Van Thieu. None was successful, but television images of US General William Westmoreland in front of a devastated embassy strewn with bodies had a jolting effect on public perceptions at home.

The offensive also involved a long, draining battle for the Khe Sanh airstrip, used as a US Marine base south of the demilitarised zone separating North and South Vietnam. Khe Sanh became a symbol of the war's futility, abandoned as it was in June 1968, deemed to be of no strategic worth.

The Tet offensive gave so much life to the anti-war Democratic presidential candidate, Eugene McCarthy, that he came close to scoring an upset victory over the President in the New Hampshire primary. That inspired Bobby Kennedy to enter the race, and prompted Mr Johnson to withdraw.

Perhaps the iconic moment was in late February when Walter Cronkite, the revered CBS Evening News anchor, visited Vietnam and told his viewers the US was "mired in a stalemate" and needed to get out.

The Tet offensive marked the moment when what had been seen as a relatively manageable overseas conflict involving the United States turned into something much more messy.

The assaults launched by the Viet Cong against the South Vietnamese and their US military allies in early 1968 - coinciding with the Tet festival, or lunar new year -- were a military fiasco. But the size of the offensive, the dramatic increase in US troop numbers it triggered, and the consequent loss of life on all sides, weighed heavily on US public opinion and led to Lyndon Johnson's refusal to seek re-election in that year's presidential race.

The Viet Cong attacked on six specific targets in Saigon, including the American embassy, the National Broadcasting Station and the office of President Nguyen Van Thieu. None was successful, but television images of US General William Westmoreland in front of a devastated embassy strewn with bodies had a jolting effect on public perceptions at home.
The offensive also involved a long, draining battle for the Khe Sanh airstrip, used as a US Marine base south of the demilitarised zone separating North and South Vietnam. Khe Sanh became a symbol of the war's futility, abandoned as it was in June 1968, deemed to be of no strategic worth.

The Tet offensive gave so much life to the anti-war Democratic presidential candidate, Eugene McCarthy, that he came close to scoring an upset victory over the President in the New Hampshire primary. That inspired Bobby Kennedy to enter the race, and prompted Mr Johnson to withdraw.

Perhaps the iconic moment was in late February when Walter Cronkite, the revered CBS Evening News anchor, visited Vietnam and told his viewers the US was "mired in a stalemate" and needed to get out.
Snuffysmith
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Vietnam comparisons underscore Iraq woes
President concedes spike in violence bears resemblance to Tet Offensive
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Given the U.S. military’s troubled history in Vietnam, generals and their foot soldiers in Iraq may have shuddered after they heard President Bush acknowledge a comparison with today’s Iraq and the Viet Cong’s 1968 Tet Offensive.

In an interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos, the president said a New York Times column by Thomas Friedman might be correct in drawing that analogy.

“He could be right,” the president said. “There’s certainly a stepped-up level of violence, and we’re heading into an election.”

Tet, which began in early 1968 and is seen by many as a turning point in the Vietnam war, did serious damage to President Lyndon B. Johnson’s public support. Two months after the offensive began, he announced he would not seek a full, second term in the White House.

Bush links violence to elections
The military and the Bush administration, even before the president’s comments Wednesday on ABC, had blamed the recent increase in attacks on U.S. soldiers in Baghdad and elsewhere on the insurgents’ savvy — a gamble that they could affect the vote in coming U.S. elections.

“In regards to this spike in violence ... it’s no coincidence that the surge in attacks against coalition forces and the subsequent increase in U.S. casualties coincides with our increased presence on the streets of Baghdad and the run-up to the American midterm elections,” military spokesman Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell said Thursday.

“The enemy knows that killing innocent people and Americans will garner headlines and create a sense of frustration,” he said.

As Caldwell spoke, the White House sought to clarify Bush’s remarks, to put them back into the context of ties between increased American deaths and the coming U.S. vote.

“The president was making a point that he’s made before, which is that terrorists try to exploit pictures and try to use the media as conduits for influencing public opinion in the United States,” spokesman Tony Snow said.


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Deadly month continues
Attacks in Baghdad rose 22 percent in the first three weeks of Islam’s holy month of Ramadan, Caldwell said, when compared to the previous three weeks. The month of fasting and prayers began in late September and is in its final days.

So far this month 73 U.S. troops have been killed, putting October on course to be the deadliest for American forces in Iraq since November 2004, when U.S. was in the midst of a drive to oust insurgents from their stronghold of Fallujah in Anbar province.

Caldwell dodged when questioned about Bush’s comparison of Iraq with the Tet Offensive.

“I think we’re getting far beyond my realm to start making analogies back to Vietnam War, but I would tell you that we’re obviously very concerned about what we’re seeing in the city.”

Disagreement over war strategy
As happened in Vietnam, the United States and its host government are growing increasingly at odds over specifics in how the war is being conducted.

Among other things, Washington and Baghdad may differ over an amnesty plan for insurgents — a bid to draw fighters into the political process. There were reports the White House was pressuring Iraqi authorities to give amnesty to Sunni insurgents, although that would be a surprising change for the Bush administration, which has resisted amnesty because it could potentially include those who have killed American troops.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki took office under a 24-point national unity program, which included an amnesty, but the plan soon collapsed after disputes with the United States over which insurgents could be included.

Beyond that, the country’s Shiite-dominated parliament — with no objection from fellow Shiite al-Maliki — adopted a measure last week that would allow Iraq’s 18 provinces to band together according to religious or ethnic population into autonomous or federal regions. Some fear such a move would effectively lead to the dismemberment of Iraq, but not before far more bloodshed.

The White House on Thursday came out strongly against such a plan, which reportedly shared some elements with expected recommendations of a commission exploring U.S. options in Iraq.

Snow said a division of Iraq was a “nonstarter,” suggesting a yet a fresh point of friction in the growing list of issues over which the al-Maliki government and the Bush administration appear to be at odds.

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