Its mild here too. But unfortunately I won't get to enjoy it. I have a dental
surgery appt. for an implant this afternoon and I'm not looking forward to it. Ugh.
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Good luck, Snuf ....
Mild up here today ....
Pleasant, actually ....
And so ....
Mild up here today ....
Pleasant, actually ....
And so ....
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Oct 18 2007, 12:58 PM) 
Its mild here too. But unfortunately I won't get to enjoy it. I have a dental
surgery appt. for an implant this afternoon and I'm not looking forward to it. Ugh.
surgery appt. for an implant this afternoon and I'm not looking forward to it. Ugh.
Ugh, is right! Hope you're not feeling too uncomfortable.
The worst part about getting an implant today is finding out that they had to do another bone graft and not getting one. Ouch. I wish they had consulted me before they proceeded with the bone graft so that I could give it some thought and decide whether I really wanted to proceed. So I'm now living in clear broth, coffee, and laying low for a day or two. Thanks for the well wishes.
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Oct 19 2007, 12:35 AM)
The worst part about getting an implant today is finding out that they had to do another bone graft and not getting one. Ouch. I wish they had consulted me before they proceeded with the bone graft so that I could give it some thought and decide whether I really wanted to proceed. So I'm now living in clear broth, coffee, and laying low for a day or two. Thanks for the well wishes.
Sorry, Snuff. How are you doing with your other health issues?
GOOD WISHES your way, Snuf ....
As for us, it is warm up here today ....
Just a tee-shirt this morning is all I need ...
Up and down goes the temperature roller coaster ...
Where it will stop, nobody knows ....
And so ...
As for us, it is warm up here today ....
Just a tee-shirt this morning is all I need ...
Up and down goes the temperature roller coaster ...
Where it will stop, nobody knows ....
And so ...
Stormy weather is moving in from the west .....
Some thunder earlier .....
A lot of restless wind ....
And so ....
Some thunder earlier .....
A lot of restless wind ....
And so ....
Stormy weather arrived in DC tonight. But it was humid all day. GRRRRRRR! I hate it when my
hair looks like a frizz ball. Yesterday was abysmal - couldn't do the implant because there wasn't
enough bone, so they did a bone graft instead. Not clear whether I will ever be able to do the
implant. C'est la guerre. In the meantime, lots of soup.
I guess I'm at the age where the bones
really do grow slow. As I watch and wait for the old collar bone to mend. At least all the motion
is now back. But I'm not aiming to climb on the back of a motorcycle anytime soon for a road trip.
I won't give up the idea of something on three or four wheels for Pawling.
hair looks like a frizz ball. Yesterday was abysmal - couldn't do the implant because there wasn't
enough bone, so they did a bone graft instead. Not clear whether I will ever be able to do the
implant. C'est la guerre. In the meantime, lots of soup.
I guess I'm at the age where the bones really do grow slow. As I watch and wait for the old collar bone to mend. At least all the motion
is now back. But I'm not aiming to climb on the back of a motorcycle anytime soon for a road trip.
I won't give up the idea of something on three or four wheels for Pawling.
Good to hear that you are getting your fighting spirit back, Snuf ...
And don't think about healing slowly ...
Just think "HEALING", with no qualifications on it at all ...
Rain didn't get here till about 9 or so last night ....
And it rained pretty good overnight ....
But it is clearing out now ....
And it should be a nice weekend ....
And so ....
And don't think about healing slowly ...
Just think "HEALING", with no qualifications on it at all ...
Rain didn't get here till about 9 or so last night ....
And it rained pretty good overnight ....
But it is clearing out now ....
And it should be a nice weekend ....
And so ....
"This battle of Manassas worthy of pay-per-view"
Washington Post
First published: Friday, October 19, 2007
WASHINGTON -- Sometimes truly American virtues arise in outlaws who -- by dint of heroic but questionable endeavors -- display the mettle of the national character.
For instance: The Dillinger Gang, robbing banks (and destroying mortgages) when banks were foreclosing on the poor.
Now a new hero has arisen.
She is none other than 75-year-old Mona "The Hammer" Shaw, who took the aforementioned implement to her local Comcast office to settle a score, and boy, did she!
This was after the company had scheduled installation of its much ballyhooed "Triple Play" service, which combines phone, cable and Internet services, in Shaw's brick home in suburban Bristow, Va.
But Shaw said they failed to show up on the appointed day, Monday, Aug. 13.
They came two days later but left with the job half done.
On Friday morning, they cut off all service.
So Mona Shaw and her husband, Don, went to the call center office in Manassas, Va., to complain.
Let's pick it up, mid-action, according to Shaw:
Mona demands to speak to a manager.
A customer service representative says someone will be right with them.
Directs them to a bench, outside.
(Remember, it's mid-August.)
Mona and Don sit.
For.
Two.
Hours.
And then -- this is the best part -- the customer rep leans out the door and says the manager has left for the day.
Thanks for coming!
As Shaw puts it, "they thought just because we're old enough to get Social Security that we lack both brains AND backbone."
So, after stewing over it all weekend, on the following Monday, she went downstairs, got Don's claw hammer and said, "C'mon, honey, we're going to Comcast."
Hammer time: Shaw storms in the company's office.
BAM!
She whacks the keyboard of the customer service rep.
BAM!
Down goes the monitor.
BAM!
She totals the telephone.
People scatter, scream, cops show up and what does she do?
POW!
A parting shot to the phone!
"They cuffed me right then," she says.
Her take on Comcast: "What a bunch of sub-moronic imbeciles."
Being a responsible newspaper, we must note that this is a crime -- a misdemeanor -- and a completely inappropriate way of handling a business dispute.
"I scared the tar out of some people, at least," she says.
By the time it was over, she recalls, there were an ambulance, two police cruisers and a sergeant's car in the parking lot.
Shaw received a three-month suspended sentence for disorderly conduct, a $345 fine in restitution and a year-long restraining order barring her from the Comcast office.
Police gave her the hammer back, and she does, finally, have phone service.
On Verizon.
Washington Post
First published: Friday, October 19, 2007
WASHINGTON -- Sometimes truly American virtues arise in outlaws who -- by dint of heroic but questionable endeavors -- display the mettle of the national character.
For instance: The Dillinger Gang, robbing banks (and destroying mortgages) when banks were foreclosing on the poor.
Now a new hero has arisen.
She is none other than 75-year-old Mona "The Hammer" Shaw, who took the aforementioned implement to her local Comcast office to settle a score, and boy, did she!
This was after the company had scheduled installation of its much ballyhooed "Triple Play" service, which combines phone, cable and Internet services, in Shaw's brick home in suburban Bristow, Va.
But Shaw said they failed to show up on the appointed day, Monday, Aug. 13.
They came two days later but left with the job half done.
On Friday morning, they cut off all service.
So Mona Shaw and her husband, Don, went to the call center office in Manassas, Va., to complain.
Let's pick it up, mid-action, according to Shaw:
Mona demands to speak to a manager.
A customer service representative says someone will be right with them.
Directs them to a bench, outside.
(Remember, it's mid-August.)
Mona and Don sit.
For.
Two.
Hours.
And then -- this is the best part -- the customer rep leans out the door and says the manager has left for the day.
Thanks for coming!
As Shaw puts it, "they thought just because we're old enough to get Social Security that we lack both brains AND backbone."
So, after stewing over it all weekend, on the following Monday, she went downstairs, got Don's claw hammer and said, "C'mon, honey, we're going to Comcast."
Hammer time: Shaw storms in the company's office.
BAM!
She whacks the keyboard of the customer service rep.
BAM!
Down goes the monitor.
BAM!
She totals the telephone.
People scatter, scream, cops show up and what does she do?
POW!
A parting shot to the phone!
"They cuffed me right then," she says.
Her take on Comcast: "What a bunch of sub-moronic imbeciles."
Being a responsible newspaper, we must note that this is a crime -- a misdemeanor -- and a completely inappropriate way of handling a business dispute.
"I scared the tar out of some people, at least," she says.
By the time it was over, she recalls, there were an ambulance, two police cruisers and a sergeant's car in the parking lot.
Shaw received a three-month suspended sentence for disorderly conduct, a $345 fine in restitution and a year-long restraining order barring her from the Comcast office.
Police gave her the hammer back, and she does, finally, have phone service.
On Verizon.
"Climate change blamed for fading foliage"
By DAVE GRAM, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 7 minutes ago
EAST MONTPELIER, Vt. - Every fall, Marilyn Krom tries to make a trip to Vermont to see its famously beautiful fall foliage.
This year, she noticed something different about the autumn leaves.
"They're duller, not as sparkly, if you know what I mean," Krom, 62, a registered nurse from Eastford, Conn., said during a recent visit.
"They're less vivid."
Other "leaf peepers" are noticing, too, and some believe climate change could be the reason.
Forested hillsides usually riotous with reds, oranges and yellows have shown their colors only grudgingly in recent years, with many trees going straight from the dull green of late summer to the rust-brown of late fall with barely a stop at a brighter hue.
"It's nothing like it used to be," said University of Vermont plant biologist Tom Vogelmann, a Vermont native.
He says autumn has become too warm to elicit New England's richest colors.
According to the National Weather Service, temperatures in Burlington have run above the 30-year averages in every September and October for the past four years, save for October 2004, when they were 0.2 degrees below average.
Warming climate affects trees in several ways.
Colors emerge on leaves in the fall, when the green chlorophyll that has dominated all spring and summer breaks down.
The process begins when shorter days signal leaves to form a layer at the base of their stems that cuts off the flow of water and nutrients.
But in order to hasten the decline of chlorophyll, cold nights are needed.
In addition, warmer autumns and winters have been friendly to fungi that attack some trees, particularly the red and sugar maples that provide the most dazzling colors.
"The leaves fall off without ever becoming orange or yellow or red."
"They just go from green to brown," said Barry Rock, a forestry professor at the University of New Hampshire.
He says 2004 was "mediocre, 2005 was terrible, 2006 was pretty bad although it was spotty."
"This year, we're seeing that same spottiness."
"Leaf peeping" is big business in Vermont, with some 3.4 million visitors spending nearly $364 million in the fall of 2005, according to state estimates.
State tourism officials reject the notion that nature's palette is getting blander.
Erica Housekeeper, spokeswoman for the state Department of Tourism and Marketing, said she had heard nothing but positive reports from foresters and visitors alike this year.
The problem is perception, Housekeeper says: Recollections of autumns past become tinged by nostalgia.
"Sometimes, we become our own worst critics," Housekeeper said.
People who rely on autumn tourism in New England are worried.
"I don't have a sense that the colors are off, but the timing is definitely off," said Scott Cowger, owner and innkeeper at the Maple Hill Farm Bed & Breakfast Inn at Hallowell, Maine.
"Some trees are just starting to change now," Cowger said Thursday.
"It used to be, religiously, it was the second week of October when they were at their peak."
"I would tell my guests to come the second week if you want to see the peak colors."
"But it's definitely the third or fourth week at this point."
People in Northampton, Mass., are still waiting on fall color.
If foliage-viewing is the goal, "I wouldn't send anybody down this way yet," Autumn Inn desk clerk Mary Pelis said this past week.
"The way things are going, the foliage season is the one sure thing for us," said Amie Emmons, innkeeper at the West Mountain Inn, in Arlington, Vt.
"We book out two years in advance."
"It's very concerning if you think the business could start to be affected."
By DAVE GRAM, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 7 minutes ago
EAST MONTPELIER, Vt. - Every fall, Marilyn Krom tries to make a trip to Vermont to see its famously beautiful fall foliage.
This year, she noticed something different about the autumn leaves.
"They're duller, not as sparkly, if you know what I mean," Krom, 62, a registered nurse from Eastford, Conn., said during a recent visit.
"They're less vivid."
Other "leaf peepers" are noticing, too, and some believe climate change could be the reason.
Forested hillsides usually riotous with reds, oranges and yellows have shown their colors only grudgingly in recent years, with many trees going straight from the dull green of late summer to the rust-brown of late fall with barely a stop at a brighter hue.
"It's nothing like it used to be," said University of Vermont plant biologist Tom Vogelmann, a Vermont native.
He says autumn has become too warm to elicit New England's richest colors.
According to the National Weather Service, temperatures in Burlington have run above the 30-year averages in every September and October for the past four years, save for October 2004, when they were 0.2 degrees below average.
Warming climate affects trees in several ways.
Colors emerge on leaves in the fall, when the green chlorophyll that has dominated all spring and summer breaks down.
The process begins when shorter days signal leaves to form a layer at the base of their stems that cuts off the flow of water and nutrients.
But in order to hasten the decline of chlorophyll, cold nights are needed.
In addition, warmer autumns and winters have been friendly to fungi that attack some trees, particularly the red and sugar maples that provide the most dazzling colors.
"The leaves fall off without ever becoming orange or yellow or red."
"They just go from green to brown," said Barry Rock, a forestry professor at the University of New Hampshire.
He says 2004 was "mediocre, 2005 was terrible, 2006 was pretty bad although it was spotty."
"This year, we're seeing that same spottiness."
"Leaf peeping" is big business in Vermont, with some 3.4 million visitors spending nearly $364 million in the fall of 2005, according to state estimates.
State tourism officials reject the notion that nature's palette is getting blander.
Erica Housekeeper, spokeswoman for the state Department of Tourism and Marketing, said she had heard nothing but positive reports from foresters and visitors alike this year.
The problem is perception, Housekeeper says: Recollections of autumns past become tinged by nostalgia.
"Sometimes, we become our own worst critics," Housekeeper said.
People who rely on autumn tourism in New England are worried.
"I don't have a sense that the colors are off, but the timing is definitely off," said Scott Cowger, owner and innkeeper at the Maple Hill Farm Bed & Breakfast Inn at Hallowell, Maine.
"Some trees are just starting to change now," Cowger said Thursday.
"It used to be, religiously, it was the second week of October when they were at their peak."
"I would tell my guests to come the second week if you want to see the peak colors."
"But it's definitely the third or fourth week at this point."
People in Northampton, Mass., are still waiting on fall color.
If foliage-viewing is the goal, "I wouldn't send anybody down this way yet," Autumn Inn desk clerk Mary Pelis said this past week.
"The way things are going, the foliage season is the one sure thing for us," said Amie Emmons, innkeeper at the West Mountain Inn, in Arlington, Vt.
"We book out two years in advance."
"It's very concerning if you think the business could start to be affected."
Well, it looks to be a beautiful day up this way today ....
The sun is shining ...
A bit on the cool side right now, but not overly so ....
Up into the 70's today, I believe ....
And tomarrow, too ...
And so ...
The sun is shining ...
A bit on the cool side right now, but not overly so ....
Up into the 70's today, I believe ....
And tomarrow, too ...
And so ...
Its beautiful in Washington today as well even though a tad warmer than I would like, at least
no humidity. Everyone is out. Art festivals in Bethesda; runners on the Mall; traffic - tons of it -
but days like this are rare in this City - and it brings the best out in everyone. Smiling faces.
No angst. Wish we had more like them.
no humidity. Everyone is out. Art festivals in Bethesda; runners on the Mall; traffic - tons of it -
but days like this are rare in this City - and it brings the best out in everyone. Smiling faces.
No angst. Wish we had more like them.
No angst is a good thing, Snuf ...
It is a fantastic, gorgeous day up here today ...
The sky is clear blue, and bright ...
I saw some beautiful orange Maple trees out there against that blue sky ...
Not a lot of color out there ....
But what there is, is certainly worth going out to see on a day like today ....
And I took the banjo along and got to pick a bit out in the sunshine ....
Breathe some nice clean fresh air ....
And so ...
It is a fantastic, gorgeous day up here today ...
The sky is clear blue, and bright ...
I saw some beautiful orange Maple trees out there against that blue sky ...
Not a lot of color out there ....
But what there is, is certainly worth going out to see on a day like today ....
And I took the banjo along and got to pick a bit out in the sunshine ....
Breathe some nice clean fresh air ....
And so ...
Well, another warm day is on tap for us up here today ...
Up into the 70's ...
And then the decline starts all over again ....
And so ....
Up into the 70's ...
And then the decline starts all over again ....
And so ....
Well, Mrs J and I just returned from a very pleasant leaf-peeping trip thru the Adirondacks. While the fall color was not as "bright" as I remember from my childhood, it was sure a lot better than what we have here in Kah-Lee-FAWN-Yah.
You can tell it's fall here because the air turns brown.
Get well Snuff.
You can tell it's fall here because the air turns brown.
Get well Snuff.
Hey jeff - Hope you aren't near the fires or the smoke from the fires. This Santa Ana is a bad one.
As for the leaves, they aren't as colorful this year in New England, but they are still pretty. Washington is now starting to turn. But we are in a drought. And its still unseasonably warm - although today is absolutely gorgeous. I was pruning my trees today.
As for the leaves, they aren't as colorful this year in New England, but they are still pretty. Washington is now starting to turn. But we are in a drought. And its still unseasonably warm - although today is absolutely gorgeous. I was pruning my trees today.
A "soft" day up here, today ....
Mild out there ....
When it could just as well be bitey ....
A real brilliant blue sky again, today ....
No clouds whatsoever ....
I live in a grove of maples ....
And the sun is low in the sky ....
So it slants in through those maple tops ....
And everything is covered in a golden glow ....
If that is all there is to heaven ....
I won't complain when I get there .....
Nor put up a fuss that it is not enough ....
And so ...
Mild out there ....
When it could just as well be bitey ....
A real brilliant blue sky again, today ....
No clouds whatsoever ....
I live in a grove of maples ....
And the sun is low in the sky ....
So it slants in through those maple tops ....
And everything is covered in a golden glow ....
If that is all there is to heaven ....
I won't complain when I get there .....
Nor put up a fuss that it is not enough ....
And so ...
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Oct 22 2007, 01:00 PM)
Hey jeff - Hope you aren't near the fires or the smoke from the fires. This Santa Ana is a bad one.
As for the leaves, they aren't as colorful this year in New England, but they are still pretty. Washington is now starting to turn. But we are in a drought. And its still unseasonably warm - although today is absolutely gorgeous. I was pruning my trees today.
As for the leaves, they aren't as colorful this year in New England, but they are still pretty. Washington is now starting to turn. But we are in a drought. And its still unseasonably warm - although today is absolutely gorgeous. I was pruning my trees today.
Believe it or not, it is not even windy here in my 'hood (Culver City). Just warm and sunny. And, oh yes, the faint smell of smoke.
Remember, we have four seasons, too:
Fire
Earthquake
Flood
Riot
Well, it's good to know that you are safe out there so far, jeffmoskin ...
As safe as anyone can be, anyway, these days ...
Pretty exciting times we live in, actually ....
Although right now, that excitment is probably more than a lot of people really care to think about ....
And so ...
Up here where I am, I guess it really is pretty dull and boring ....
Other than the WORLD-CLASS CLOWN SHOW that we are stuck with as our state government up here ...
But that is merely entertainment ....
Not excitement ...
And so ....
As safe as anyone can be, anyway, these days ...
Pretty exciting times we live in, actually ....
Although right now, that excitment is probably more than a lot of people really care to think about ....
And so ...
Up here where I am, I guess it really is pretty dull and boring ....
Other than the WORLD-CLASS CLOWN SHOW that we are stuck with as our state government up here ...
But that is merely entertainment ....
Not excitement ...
And so ....
Good Morning!
Warm and breezy here today. Remarkable weather for this late in October. It's good to know that our California members are safe from the fires and that Livy is enjoying the splendors of Autumn in his backyard. The leaves are beginning to put on their show around here...not in full color yet, but soon. What a sight when the leaves are bathed in sunlight... spectacular!
My husband and I have been busy the last few days trying to figure out how to resolve a serious conflict that has arisen between my son and his high school soccer coach. Yikes.. the wisdom of Solomon would be helpful right about now. A stubborn 15 year old and a coach who often behaves like a stubborn 15 year old does not bode well for a positive outcome.
But, we haven't given up yet...soon, but not yet. I'm off to lunch with a friend to seek counsel on this. Tylenol for my major headache has been helpful.
Listen! the wind is rising,
and the air is wild with leaves,
We have had our summer evenings,
now for October eves!
- Humbert Wolfe
Warm and breezy here today. Remarkable weather for this late in October. It's good to know that our California members are safe from the fires and that Livy is enjoying the splendors of Autumn in his backyard. The leaves are beginning to put on their show around here...not in full color yet, but soon. What a sight when the leaves are bathed in sunlight... spectacular!
My husband and I have been busy the last few days trying to figure out how to resolve a serious conflict that has arisen between my son and his high school soccer coach. Yikes.. the wisdom of Solomon would be helpful right about now. A stubborn 15 year old and a coach who often behaves like a stubborn 15 year old does not bode well for a positive outcome.
But, we haven't given up yet...soon, but not yet. I'm off to lunch with a friend to seek counsel on this. Tylenol for my major headache has been helpful. Listen! the wind is rising,
and the air is wild with leaves,
We have had our summer evenings,
now for October eves!
- Humbert Wolfe
Amy - I learned something from my late husband who literally was a track star back in the 1960s. (Four time NCAA All American Half-Miler - before my time with him) as well as from his three brothers who were also runners but not as good as he was. There is universal agreement that you never like your coach. Many years later, at a cocktail party in honor of the coach's retirement, I had the opportunity to meet him - was most curious after all of the horror stories I had heard about him. I thought he was perfectly charming. 30 years later, my brothers in law tell me - forget it, he's still a bad guy.
Its a great opportunity for your son to learn how to deal with taking life's chumps. My son went through this last year in college with the basketball coach. Many years from now, they both will have to deal with bosses in the working world they aren't going to like. And as a Mom, you begin to learn that you can't fix everything as hard as you try. Doesn't mean its not painful - it is. I know what you are going through.
The Snuff
Its a great opportunity for your son to learn how to deal with taking life's chumps. My son went through this last year in college with the basketball coach. Many years from now, they both will have to deal with bosses in the working world they aren't going to like. And as a Mom, you begin to learn that you can't fix everything as hard as you try. Doesn't mean its not painful - it is. I know what you are going through.
The Snuff
That's pretty much it, Snuf ....
Windy up here today ....
Blowing kind of fresh, someone nautical like Mr. A.B. might say ....
And so ....
No rain yet ....
But it has looked like it all day ....
Maybe tonight ....
And so ....
Windy up here today ....
Blowing kind of fresh, someone nautical like Mr. A.B. might say ....
And so ....
No rain yet ....
But it has looked like it all day ....
Maybe tonight ....
And so ....
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Oct 23 2007, 11:08 AM)
Its a great opportunity for your son to learn how to deal with taking life's chumps. My son went through this last year in college with the basketball coach. Many years from now, they both will have to deal with bosses in the working world they aren't going to like. And as a Mom, you begin to learn that you can't fix everything as hard as you try. Doesn't mean its not painful - it is. I know what you are going through.
The Snuff
The Snuff
Thanks for your input, Snuff. And for sure, our youngsters must learn to deal with difficult people and difficult situations. It took us a while to get all the "facts" but once we found out what happened between my son and his coach, we have decided to support our son in whatever decision he makes about the situation (there are only two choices). We've made him aware of potential consequences(positive and negative) of any decision he makes, so now it's up to him and we're stepping aside. This situation was the most difficult one we have had to deal with, to date. But, it's a good learning experience for our son and we don't disagree with his thinking on it. A few more gray hairs for me and my husband, though.
QUOTE(amy @ Oct 23 2007, 11:25 PM)
Thanks for your input, Snuff. And for sure, our youngsters must learn to deal with difficult people and difficult situations. It took us a while to get all the "facts" but once we found out what happened between my son and his coach, we have decided to support our son in whatever decision he makes about the situation (there are only two choices). We've made him aware of potential consequences(positive and negative) of any decision he makes, so now it's up to him and we're stepping aside. This situation was the most difficult one we have had to deal with, to date. But, it's a good learning experience for our son and we don't disagree with his thinking on it. A few more gray hairs for me and my husband, though.
Redken works better than Clairol.
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Oct 24 2007, 12:00 AM)
Redken works better than Clairol.
I'll have to try it...I've been a "Clairol woman" for many years now. It would be so much easier just to go "natural"......
Rainy up here last night ....
Supposed to clear off for today ....
And then rain again tomarrow into Saturday ....
A lot of the leaves up this way came down the last couple of days with all the wind and rain, so the color is on the ground now, and not so much in the tree tops anymore ...
But that is the way of it up here, year after year ....
The color is ephemeral ....
Not guaranteed ....
If you are out there when the color is ....
You might see it .....
If you are not distracted by something more important, I suppose ...
And if you didn't get out there ....
Oh, well ...
Just like that ....
The color can be gone again ....
Like the rainbow I saw the other day for just an instant ....
Now you see it ....
And then, it is gone ...
And so ....
Supposed to clear off for today ....
And then rain again tomarrow into Saturday ....
A lot of the leaves up this way came down the last couple of days with all the wind and rain, so the color is on the ground now, and not so much in the tree tops anymore ...
But that is the way of it up here, year after year ....
The color is ephemeral ....
Not guaranteed ....
If you are out there when the color is ....
You might see it .....
If you are not distracted by something more important, I suppose ...
And if you didn't get out there ....
Oh, well ...
Just like that ....
The color can be gone again ....
Like the rainbow I saw the other day for just an instant ....
Now you see it ....
And then, it is gone ...
And so ....
QUOTE(amy @ Oct 23 2007, 05:25 PM)
Thanks for your input, Snuff. And for sure, our youngsters must learn to deal with difficult people and difficult situations. It took us a while to get all the "facts" but once we found out what happened between my son and his coach, we have decided to support our son in whatever decision he makes about the situation (there are only two choices). We've made him aware of potential consequences(positive and negative) of any decision he makes, so now it's up to him and we're stepping aside. This situation was the most difficult one we have had to deal with, to date. But, it's a good learning experience for our son and we don't disagree with his thinking on it. A few more gray hairs for me and my husband, though.
You are indeed fortunate.
QUOTE(Pegatha @ Oct 25 2007, 09:27 AM)
You are indeed fortunate.
Yes, we are very fortunate that this incident has been the most difficult to deal with so far!! But, it was tough because my son is no longer playing soccer for the high school. It was his decision and we understand and support that decision. We also would have supported him if he had decided to return to the team. The tough part was trying to get the facts staight so that we could advise him appropriately. And of course, well meaning and caring friends who have sons on the soccer team are very upset by the situation, so we wanted to put closure to it ASAP so that this experience can be put to rest. It's now resolved, finally. Whew.
QUOTE(amy @ Oct 25 2007, 04:01 PM)
Yes, we are very fortunate that this incident has been the most difficult to deal with so far!! But, it was tough because my son is no longer playing soccer for the high school. It was his decision and we understand and support that decision. We also would have supported him if he had decided to return to the team. The tough part was trying to get the facts staight so that we could advise him appropriately. And of course, well meaning and caring friends who have sons on the soccer team are very upset by the situation, so we wanted to put closure to it ASAP so that this experience can be put to rest. It's now resolved, finally. Whew.
Sometimes the hardest part is trying to deal with well meaning parents who think they are giving you support and only serve to make you second guess your decisions. If your son is a good soccer player and interested in playing in college, perhaps there is a state/regional sponsored travel team that he can join so he has the opportunity to continue playing.
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Oct 25 2007, 11:11 AM)
Sometimes the hardest part is trying to deal with well meaning parents who think they are giving you support and only serve to make you second guess your decisions. If your son is a good soccer player and interested in playing in college, perhaps there is a state/regional sponsored travel team that he can join so he has the opportunity to continue playing.
My son is a very good soccer player and he is a player on a travel soccer team about 1 1/2 hours from where we live. That team will start to practice again when high school soccer ends in a couple of weeks. Actually, as you know, it is the travel soccer team that will provide the opportunities for the players to be observed by college soccer recruiters at tournaments they will be attending. At this point, he's still interested in playing college soccer if he's offered a position...but that could change during the next 2 1/2 years.
Chilly up here this morning ...
Big old moon out there last night ...
Turned the world silver outside my window ...
And so ...
Big old moon out there last night ...
Turned the world silver outside my window ...
And so ...
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Oct 26 2007, 03:52 AM)
Chilly up here this morning ...
Big old moon out there last night ...
Turned the world silver outside my window ...
And so ...
Big old moon out there last night ...
Turned the world silver outside my window ...
And so ...
Saw the same big old moon, too.
But it was orange.
Smoke does funny things.
Its gray in Washington today. Its been raining most of the day - sometimes lightly,
sometimes heavy. We need the rain. Tends to keep me indoors though. Missed the
moon last night.
sometimes heavy. We need the rain. Tends to keep me indoors though. Missed the
moon last night.
The moonlight was beautiful up here last night ....
amy, my thought always is that the best way for a young person to learn how to make decisions as an older person is to have to make them when young, and to have to also own the results of the decision made by them, so that they can see early on the connection between decisions and the results of having made one ....
Soccer is a part of your son's life, but it is not all of it, nor should it be, at a young age ....
And it sounds like your son has a grasp on that ....
Which is all that matters ...
And so ...
amy, my thought always is that the best way for a young person to learn how to make decisions as an older person is to have to make them when young, and to have to also own the results of the decision made by them, so that they can see early on the connection between decisions and the results of having made one ....
Soccer is a part of your son's life, but it is not all of it, nor should it be, at a young age ....
And it sounds like your son has a grasp on that ....
Which is all that matters ...
And so ...
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Oct 26 2007, 05:59 PM)
The moonlight was beautiful up here last night ....
amy, my thought always is that the best way for a young person to learn how to make decisions as an older person is to have to make them when young, and to have to also own the results of the decision made by them, so that they can see early on the connection between decisions and the results of having made one ....
Soccer is a part of your son's life, but it is not all of it, nor should it be, at a young age ....
And it sounds like your son has a grasp on that ....
Which is all that matters ...
And so ...
amy, my thought always is that the best way for a young person to learn how to make decisions as an older person is to have to make them when young, and to have to also own the results of the decision made by them, so that they can see early on the connection between decisions and the results of having made one ....
Soccer is a part of your son's life, but it is not all of it, nor should it be, at a young age ....
And it sounds like your son has a grasp on that ....
Which is all that matters ...
And so ...
I appreciate your thoughts, Livy. My husband and I completely agree with you about young people learning to make decisions and owning the consequences of those decisions. That's why, once we got a hold of the facts, we allowed our son to make a decision about how he wanted to handle the situation, knowing that he would then "own" the consequences, both negative and positive, of whatever decision he made. Some friends recommended we "insist" our son stay on the team..that we make that decision for him because he's only 15 and can't truly understand the consequences of his decision. Well, we feel he will never understand all that's involved in making decisions if we, or others, make decisions for him. Well anyway, an interesting turn of events at school today. The coach's son, who is a member of the soccer team, told my son that his dad wants him to come back to the team. He told my son that his dad (the coach) can't ask him to come back, but he wants him to go to practice on Monday and get back on the team. It will be interesting to see what my son decides to do on Monday. I did explain to my son that I believe the coach is trying to "save face" and this is his way of acknowledging he made a very poor choice in how he handled something a week ago. I explained that coaches are "human" too, they make mistakes like we all do and this is his way of trying to rectify a mistake. I hope he returns, but the decision remains with him. And, you are so right, Livy, soccer is just one part of his life and his life is full of positives...his passion for music, his friends, family, other sports he enjoys for leisure...school (a necessary evil)
So many lessons to be learned from one incident...I think he's doing a good job of thinking things through and setting right his "priorities".
QUOTE(amy @ Oct 26 2007, 08:00 PM)
Some friends recommended we "insist" our son stay on the team..that we make that decision for him because he's only 15 and can't truly understand the consequences of his decision.
Well, we feel he will never understand all that's involved in making decisions if we, or others, make decisions for him.
Well, we feel he will never understand all that's involved in making decisions if we, or others, make decisions for him.
I'm just old-fashioned, I guess, amy, but I think the advice from your friends is immature, unenlightened, and just plain ignorant ....
At what age, I wonder, should you let your son start making some decisions in HIS life?
21?
35?
60, maybe?
Decision-making is a process, and therefore, there is a decision-making "apparatus" like a muscle within us that needs to be exercised regularly to help make it grow ....
When I came back to here from Viet Nam, it really struck me as to just how "baby-like" people really are over here ....
Puts some teeth into the expression "act your age, but don't crawl" ...
People add years to their lives, but stay somewheres around two years old it seems, in terms of emotional maturity ...
When I was young, at 12, you were given responsibilities that you were responsible for ....
And you had to be responsible, or face the consequences ....
I always tell young people that in the end, only they can make the ultimate decisions as to who they are going to be in life, and the sooner that they start giving some thought to what that might be, the easier life will be for them as it progresses ....
Because some day, sooner or later, they are going to be on their own, and if they cannot depend upon their own judgments and decisions by then, they will be little more than dust blowing in the wind ...
Subject to its vagaries ....
And so ...
QUOTE(amy @ Oct 26 2007, 08:00 PM)
I did explain to my son that I believe the coach is trying to "save face" and this is his way of acknowledging he made a very poor choice in how he handled something a week ago.
I explained that coaches are "human" too, they make mistakes like we all do and this is his way of trying to rectify a mistake.
I explained that coaches are "human" too, they make mistakes like we all do and this is his way of trying to rectify a mistake.
"Saving face" and "eating crow"!
Parts of life, indeed ....
That is the "coming back out of" part of the process, as I see it ...
And that is the more important part of the process ....
Your son needs to carefully consider this, I would say ....
He can turn that coach into a future "ally" of his ....
Or he can turn him into a potential "enemy" ....
And you never know down the road, so I always try to convert my "enemies" into potential aliies ....
The nice thing about an avowed enemy is that you know where you stand with that person, so that you can then whittle away at that, and convert the person to your views, or at least disarm the person's hostility to your position on an issue ...
And if you fail at it, they are still an enemy, so you know where you stand with them ...
It will indeed be interesting to see how your son deals with this situation ...
This is how one learns diplomacy in life ....
OR NOT ...
And that is by having to deal with these kinds of situations ....
Rather than by avoiding them ...
And so ...
Good Morning....Just stopping in to say "hello". A busy weekend for my family. A birthday party today and a baptism tomorrow. Well, I'm off to make some goodies for these occasions!
Hope everyone has a relaxing weekend.
THE WORLDS NEED
Ella Wheeler Wilcox
O many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Oct 27 2007, 01:22 PM)
"Saving face" and "eating crow"!
Parts of life, indeed ....
That is the "coming back out of" part of the process, as I see it ...
And that is the more important part of the process ....
Your son needs to carefully consider this, I would say ....
He can turn that coach into a future "ally" of his ....
Or he can turn him into a potential "enemy" ....
And you never know down the road, so I always try to convert my "enemies" into potential aliies ....
The nice thing about an avowed enemy is that you know where you stand with that person, so that you can then whittle away at that, and convert the person to your views, or at least disarm the person's hostility to your position on an issue ...
And if you fail at it, they are still an enemy, so you know where you stand with them ...
It will indeed be interesting to see how your son deals with this situation ...
This is how one learns diplomacy in life ....
OR NOT ...
And that is by having to deal with these kinds of situations ....
Rather than by avoiding them ...
And so ...
Parts of life, indeed ....
That is the "coming back out of" part of the process, as I see it ...
And that is the more important part of the process ....
Your son needs to carefully consider this, I would say ....
He can turn that coach into a future "ally" of his ....
Or he can turn him into a potential "enemy" ....
And you never know down the road, so I always try to convert my "enemies" into potential aliies ....
The nice thing about an avowed enemy is that you know where you stand with that person, so that you can then whittle away at that, and convert the person to your views, or at least disarm the person's hostility to your position on an issue ...
And if you fail at it, they are still an enemy, so you know where you stand with them ...
It will indeed be interesting to see how your son deals with this situation ...
This is how one learns diplomacy in life ....
OR NOT ...
And that is by having to deal with these kinds of situations ....
Rather than by avoiding them ...
And so ...
Your words of wisdom are so very true Liv. There is always a little give and take to
diplomacy. Some of the best lessons are learned form the giving. While some people may
call it 'eating crow' - we all need to learn a little humility - and eating crow does that just fine.
I hope Amy's son will carefully consider the giving in this episode, one of many he will experience
in his life. It is also important to learn the consequences of "quitting." My son learned not to quit
and tough things out. Like his Dad. The decision making process has many facets to it. Its not
so simple. Its also an evolving process.
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Oct 27 2007, 09:33 AM)
The decision making process has many facets to it.
Its not so simple.
Its also an evolving process.
Its not so simple.
Its also an evolving process.
Amen, amen, and amen again, Snuf .....
The hardest thing about being human down here is that there is no real instruction manual for how to do it all ....
A lot of blanks have to be filled in by us, along the way .....
Write a lot of stuff in the margins as we go along ....
It's been raining pretty heavy up here ....
The ditches are running pretty full ....
And so ....
Well, the rain is gone ....
Clearing is setting back in up here ....
Supposed to be a hard freeze tonight ....
Might be down in the 20's tomarrow morning ....
And so ....
The "SLIDE" continues ....
And so ....
Clearing is setting back in up here ....
Supposed to be a hard freeze tonight ....
Might be down in the 20's tomarrow morning ....
And so ....
The "SLIDE" continues ....
And so ....
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Oct 27 2007, 08:22 AM)
He can turn that coach into a future "ally" of his ....
Or he can turn him into a potential "enemy" ....
It will indeed be interesting to see how your son deals with this situation ...
This is how one learns diplomacy in life ....
OR NOT ...
And that is by having to deal with these kinds of situations ....
Rather than by avoiding them ...
Or he can turn him into a potential "enemy" ....
It will indeed be interesting to see how your son deals with this situation ...
This is how one learns diplomacy in life ....
OR NOT ...
And that is by having to deal with these kinds of situations ....
Rather than by avoiding them ...
Converting an "enemy" into an ally....diplomatic skills....very important as you say, Livy, though a bit tough for a 15 year old to wrap his mind around. Since we're not going to see any attempts at "diplomacy" from the coach's end, we are allowing our son to resolve this from a 15 year olds's perspective. This incident and his decision will always be his "memory bank" which he can use for future reference when he comes up against similiar situations. As Snuffy said, the decision making process is an "evolving process"....subject to many twists and turns as we gain experience throughout our lives. As a parent, I would be most comfortable with immediate "closure" on this issue. Our children seldom accommodate us in that regard!
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Oct 27 2007, 11:33 AM)
I hope Amy's son will carefully consider the giving in this episode, one of many he will experience
in his life. It is also important to learn the consequences of "quitting." My son learned not to quit
and tough things out. Like his Dad. The decision making process has many facets to it. Its not
so simple. Its also an evolving process.
in his life. It is also important to learn the consequences of "quitting." My son learned not to quit
and tough things out. Like his Dad. The decision making process has many facets to it. Its not
so simple. Its also an evolving process.
I agree. We don't want our son to be a "quitter" when difficult situations arise and until this issue came up, he hasn't done that. However, this situation has a few "layers" and when the outer layers are peeled off and the core of the "difficulty" is exposed his decision to not return is understadable, at least from my perspective. I think that sometimes choosing a path that is not the generally accepted "norm" can be better in the long run, depending upon the reasons that path was chosen. It would make it "easier" for him, me and his dad if he would return, but sometimes "easy" just isn't going to happen. Byw, I'm copying yours and Livy's "words of wisdom"...I plan on giving them to my son at some future date. Intelligent and reasoned thoughts are always welcomed! Thanks to you both for your input.
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Oct 27 2007, 04:42 PM)
Amen, amen, and amen again, Snuf .....
The hardest thing about being human down here is that there is no real instruction manual for how to do it all ....
A lot of blanks have to be filled in by us, along the way .....
Write a lot of stuff in the margins as we go along ....
It's been raining pretty heavy up here ....
The ditches are running pretty full ....
And so ....
The hardest thing about being human down here is that there is no real instruction manual for how to do it all ....
A lot of blanks have to be filled in by us, along the way .....
Write a lot of stuff in the margins as we go along ....
It's been raining pretty heavy up here ....
The ditches are running pretty full ....
And so ....
Yep, we have to learn as we go along...each of us writing our own "instruction manual" for life. That's what makes life so interesting but yet complicated, messy and annoying, at times!
The rain has stopped here and the temps are gong way down....a beautiful day...the geese are in formation for their flight south.
I'm off to a baptism.
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Oct 27 2007, 09:42 PM)
Amen, amen, and amen again, Snuf .....
The hardest thing about being human down here is that there is no real instruction manual for how to do it all ....
A lot of blanks have to be filled in by us, along the way .....
Write a lot of stuff in the margins as we go along ....
And so ....
The hardest thing about being human down here is that there is no real instruction manual for how to do it all ....
A lot of blanks have to be filled in by us, along the way .....
Write a lot of stuff in the margins as we go along ....
And so ....
Would that were an instruction manual for how to live and how to parent. No truer
words were written Liv. It would also be nice to have someone tell us that we
are doing a good job with our lives or ours from time to time. But that is something
we just have to intuit on our own. Comes from writing a lot of stuff in the margins
as we go along.
Sunny today. I'm off to visit my mom.
QUOTE(amy @ Oct 28 2007, 08:06 AM)
Converting an "enemy" into an ally....diplomatic skills....very important as you say, Livy, though a bit tough for a 15 year old to wrap his mind around.
I wouldn't bet on that at all, amy, especially as aware as your son seems to be through the things that you post in here occasionally about him ....
Think how many young persons there are in history your son's age who have in fact put their minds right around that concept, naturally ....
John Quincy Adams comes right to mind ....
He learned a ton about human relations and diplomacy when he was but a boy of 12 or so, co-existing in a world of adults around him ....
It comes down to the fact that for some forseeable time to come, unless your son moves to another school, he and that coach are going to have to share space in some way or another, and your son has control of how that is going to be ....
He doesn't have to go back to the team ....
And he also doesn't have to put that in the coach's face ....
Which doesn't sound like your son's style, anyway ....
Just a simple, "sorry, coach, but the path of my life lies in a different direction ..."
And so ....
In that case, the coach, to truly save face, would have to wish your son well ....
And now, he's an ally ....
Unless he wants to be seen as being false ....
And so ....
Simple as that!
And so ...
Another approach, which is just as diplomatic .....
Is a raised middle finger .....
Accompanied by "HERE'S YOURS, COACH!"
Which would certainly serve to cement a relationship between the coach and your son .....
But in that senario, I don't think the coach would be considered an ally, anymore ....
And so ....
When a person disengages from a situation ....
However young ....
The method of disengagement itself ....
Can truly end things ....
Or it can spin off a whole new set of unintended and unwelcome consequences ....
And so ....
Is a raised middle finger .....
Accompanied by "HERE'S YOURS, COACH!"
Which would certainly serve to cement a relationship between the coach and your son .....
But in that senario, I don't think the coach would be considered an ally, anymore ....
And so ....
When a person disengages from a situation ....
However young ....
The method of disengagement itself ....
Can truly end things ....
Or it can spin off a whole new set of unintended and unwelcome consequences ....
And so ....
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Oct 28 2007, 04:05 PM)
It comes down to the fact that for some forseeable time to come, unless your son moves to another school, he and that coach are going to have to share space in some way or another, and your son has control of how that is going to be ....
He doesn't have to go back to the team ....
And he also doesn't have to put that in the coach's face ....
Which doesn't sound like your son's style, anyway ....
Just a simple, "sorry, coach, but the path of my life lies in a different direction ..."
He doesn't have to go back to the team ....
And he also doesn't have to put that in the coach's face ....
Which doesn't sound like your son's style, anyway ....
Just a simple, "sorry, coach, but the path of my life lies in a different direction ..."
You're right , Livy, my son is capable of thinking things through and looking at a situation from more than one angle, particularly with some guidance from his parents (even though he doesn't like to admit it!) In fact, that's what he has done with this issue.
The short of it is this. My son has never missed a practice nor a game. The week my son and his coach had a serious conflict, the team had three games, two of them night games. He of course played Monday's game, went to practice on Tuesday and played a night game on Wednesday. My son had a big English project due that Friday. Thursday was also a night game. My son never even contemplated missing the game to finish his project. But the coach wanted the players to go home from school at 3:00, come back to the school at 4:15 to observe a girls field hockey game and then get on the bus at 5:15 to go to the night game. Since my son did not do a very good job of judging how much time he needed to complete his project, I told him he was to miss observing the girls field hockey game to work on his project and of course I would take him to get the bus at 5:15. When I dropped him off at 5:15, the coach flipped out on him. "Why wasn't he at the field hockey game?" My son told him he had a project to work on. The coach told my son that he didn't need to bother get "dressed" (meaning he would be benched the entire game) and that if his homework was so important he could sit on the bench and do it. Well, my son being a practical person (and very upset that the coach was acting the way he was) decided that if the coach was going to bench him for not watching a field hockey game, he would go home and use tht time to complete his project. He never said this to the coach...he just borrowed a teammate's cell phone to call home so that we could pick him up. The coach asked him why he was using the phone, my son told him he was going home, the coach told him to get on the bus or he was "history" not to come back. So, my son made a choice. Apparently, once the bus was on its way to the game, the coach changed his mind (I guess, I don't know, since he never contacted my son), so he had the team's goalie call our house asking to speak to my son. We weren't home yet but my son decided not to call him back( he was very, very upset at this point). Then another teammate called him from the bus but he was still too upset to talk about it. So, that's it. The coach, through the grapevine at school, (meaning the coach's son) has let my son know he can come back. My son has thought about it and chooses not to. If the coach had contacted him, not to apologize, but to talk to him about it, I'm confident the outcome would have been different. My son's thinking goes like this: the coach told him he was "done" unless he got on the bus....he chose not to get on the bus...the coach has not informed him that anything has changed. Bottom line is, he has never respected the coach, although he has always treated the coach respectfully. He has done everything "right" and "according to protocol" as a team member ( he's a starter on varsity) other than not watching the hockey game. So this was the "last straw" for my son. He doesn't want to play for the coach, anymore. He did not want me or my husband to contact the coach...I wanted to tell the coach it was MY decision that my son skip watching the girls' hockey game...but my son wanted to handle this on his own. The coach expects "blind obedience" no matter the circumstances...my son didn't comply with that expectation ( I'm afraid my son takes after me in that respect)... so, here we are. (Btw, the coach doesn't usually bench a player for the entire game if they miss a practice....so to threaten to bench for not watching a field hockey game?)
Again, Livy, I so much appreciate your input and Snuffy's input, as well. You are a very wise man and I want my son to read what you have written on this. He was looking over my shouder when I was reading your posts so he's interested!
QUOTE(Livyjr @ Oct 28 2007, 04:10 PM)
Another approach, which is just as diplomatic .....
Is a raised middle finger .....
Accompanied by "HERE'S YOURS, COACH!"
Is a raised middle finger .....
Accompanied by "HERE'S YOURS, COACH!"
Well, my son would never even consider that move as an option , but wouldn't this Mom just love to do exactly that!
Is there an Athletic Director in the school's program?. Given what you have described about the coach's conduct, this is a matter that should be taken up with the Athletic Director - to find out what the school's policy is regarding coaches requiring students to observe school games in other sports prior to getting on the bus before leaving to play a team sport - given the specific schedule of games that were being held that week at night when a major academic project is due the next day. Your son chose to complete his academic requirements rather than observe another game. He didn't miss a practice. The coach had excused the team for a period of time before indicating when they had to leave to meet the bus. And he was ready, able and willing to play by showing up for the bus only to be told he was being benched for not observing a game.
I would remove the entire discussion away from the realm of what your son's views of the coach are eg. whether he respects him etc eg. get rid of the discussion about attitudes because its generally understood that what the coach says rules. However, the school also wants to place its athletes in good academic environments for college and that requires the students to satisfactorily complete their academic requirements and get good grades. It may be the case that only your son on that team had the need to complete a major academic project which the coach wasn't aware of. (Or you can at least say that as a form of face saving for all)
This is also a discussion that you as parents should have with the Athletic Directror - with your son present. Just a suggestion.
I would remove the entire discussion away from the realm of what your son's views of the coach are eg. whether he respects him etc eg. get rid of the discussion about attitudes because its generally understood that what the coach says rules. However, the school also wants to place its athletes in good academic environments for college and that requires the students to satisfactorily complete their academic requirements and get good grades. It may be the case that only your son on that team had the need to complete a major academic project which the coach wasn't aware of. (Or you can at least say that as a form of face saving for all)
This is also a discussion that you as parents should have with the Athletic Directror - with your son present. Just a suggestion.
QUOTE(amy @ Oct 28 2007, 05:20 PM)
Well, my son would never even consider that move as an option , but wouldn't this Mom just love to do exactly that!
You almost made me spit my coffee out on the keyboard laughing here, amy ....
What a situation. amy ....
BUT ....
IT IS REAL!
That is the kind of thing that life DOES brings along with it, whether you want it or need it, or not, as you know, and as your son has learned ....
And the thing to do now is to simply move on ....
Although I myself am a "closure" kind of person ...
So I might follow Snuf's advice, privately go see the school administrator as opposed to the AD and explain to him or her that you as a parent are really less than totally pleased with the management of this issue ....
Keeping in mind that sometimes, the more a parent tries to "resolve" a kid's issues in high school, assuming that necessary discipline is not involved, the more toxic than can make the environment for the kid ...
And so ....
The one lesson your son should take from this is that yes, this coach is a real person, and he is not the only one like himself out there, and as your son grows older:
a) he might very well meet more of these types of person affecting him in his work environment, so he should file this away as possible preparation for future encounters; and
b) he might well have his own son someday coming home from a similar situation, so based on this experience, your son will have something wise and sensible to say as well ....
And so ....
BUT ....
IT IS REAL!
That is the kind of thing that life DOES brings along with it, whether you want it or need it, or not, as you know, and as your son has learned ....
And the thing to do now is to simply move on ....
Although I myself am a "closure" kind of person ...
So I might follow Snuf's advice, privately go see the school administrator as opposed to the AD and explain to him or her that you as a parent are really less than totally pleased with the management of this issue ....
Keeping in mind that sometimes, the more a parent tries to "resolve" a kid's issues in high school, assuming that necessary discipline is not involved, the more toxic than can make the environment for the kid ...
And so ....
The one lesson your son should take from this is that yes, this coach is a real person, and he is not the only one like himself out there, and as your son grows older:
a) he might very well meet more of these types of person affecting him in his work environment, so he should file this away as possible preparation for future encounters; and
b) he might well have his own son someday coming home from a similar situation, so based on this experience, your son will have something wise and sensible to say as well ....
And so ....
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