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Noonan
Only Those Who Agree With the President May Hear Him Speak

Hey, don't miss this one. It's brilliant.

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Lawyers for two men charged with illegally ejecting two people from a speech by President Bush in 2005 are arguing that the president’s staff can lawfully remove anyone who expresses points of view different from his.
Those who wonder how an absolute power to squelch dissent squares with the First Amendment are forgetting that while our unitary president makes our laws (remember signing statements?), no laws actually apply to him. Anyone daring to disagree with the president is dispatched with the bum's rush. Free speech? The unitary president doesn't want to be troubled with nonunitary opinions.

The argument is silly:

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Mr. Casper and Mr. Klinkerman lost their motion for dismissal, and this week their lawyers filed an appeals brief arguing that their clients had the right to take action against Mr. Young and Ms. Weise precisely because the two held views different from Mr. Bush’s.

“They excluded people from a White House event because they posed a threat of being disruptive,” said a lawyer for Mr. Casper, Sean Gallagher.


Young and Weise were removed from the audience in a public event because of their political viewpoint. Their antiwar bumpersticker may have telegraphed a difference of opinion with the president, but differing opinions are not in themselves disruptive. They are, in fact, the foundation of democratic government. The president and his followers may want to control the message, but they have no right to control the thoughts of everyone else.

If dissenters can be kicked out of the president's audience, can dissenters be kicked out of the president's country for fear that they might become disruptive? Alberto Gonzales should look into it after he's done rehearsing his lies testimony.
graham4anything
How come you don't put links in the posts?

One likes to know where they are being led to in public view, before they click (and lots of people don't know about properties, or if you have macs you can't right click at all)

Please post the link in plain view on the posts
graham4anything
the original post by Noonan has the following URL

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/4/15/0499/16175

(as some sites, especially rightwing ones apply cookies and some may not want those sites tracking there every move around like a red car after John Corzine or something)
cutecat
Now Graham Bush suppresses free speech is the real conspiracy
Noonan
QUOTE(graham4anything @ Apr 15 2007, 07:59 AM) *
Please post the link in plain view on the posts

Is the subject heading not in plain view?
Smartcor
QUOTE(Noonan @ May 8 2007, 08:38 AM) *
Is the subject heading not in plain view?


Loud and clear, at least to me.
Pegatha
QUOTE(Noonan @ May 8 2007, 07:38 AM) *
Is the subject heading not in plain view?


Some people don't understand exactly how embedded links work, I guess. And I guess that those people believe that forums should be dumbed down to their level. And that they are the boss of the rest of us.
Noonan
For those that have trouble reading, I'll supply pictures. Sorry, I don't feel well enough to take the time to include "circles
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one".
You see this first.

And then this.

Consider this thread officially hijacked, unless you'd still like to talk about how free speech is being violated.
flydangler
QUOTE(Smartcor @ May 8 2007, 08:57 AM) *
Loud and clear, at least to me
'Twas so clear to me methinks a caveman coulda found it! Kinda like a certain company's ads, eh?
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