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Indianhead
Kerry asks compassion in immigration case of soldier's wife
June 20, 2007

WASHINGTON --Sen. John Kerry on Wednesday urged U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials not to deport the wife of a Massachusetts soldier missing in Iraq, calling it a "test of our government's compassion" for service members and their families.

"It just strikes me as unbelievably inappropriate and indecent for the wife of a current, second-tour Purple Heart winner who is now missing in action to be living under this kind of cloud," Kerry, D-Mass., said in a conference call with reporters.

Army Spec. Alex Jimenez of Lawrence, who has been missing since his unit was attacked by insurgents in Iraq on May 12, had petitioned for a green card for his wife, Yaderlin, whom he married in 2004, Boston television station WBZ-TV reported on Tuesday. The soldier's wife is living with family members in Pennsylvania, the station reported.
tomhye
I hope the media pick up on this, now they don't have to listen to congress but enough pressure might make Bush tell them to do the right thing for a change.
TheRestofUs
See! Kerry loves Illegals! omg.gif
Indianhead
Let me imagine...JK probably gives place to blood...
the husband paid it all...oh, he's MIA...but we know
what that means in Iraq
. If he loved this woman,
I love this woman. If she was given place by a GI
who paid for this adventure, this B.S., she has place
with me. If he is my brother, she is my sister-in-law.

I'm not a very complicated man. But, if anyone deserves
santuary...she gets my vote. I don't care about policy,
I'm not a "comprehensive immigration" supporter.
But, I give him place - a very high place - she benefits.
70sliberalism
QUOTE(TheRestofUs @ Jun 20 2007, 04:23 PM) *
See! Kerry loves Illegals! omg.gif

the left and right who are so set against any kind of compromise immigration bill ought to sign up and serve this country in place of the legals and illegals whose families are making the sacrifices we benefit from. the complaining about those who do not follow all the rules will be silent here.......


she broke the laws. she entered illegally. where are all the self righteous "send 'em home now" crowd on this one?

are there good illegals and bad ones? will we see them supporting a law breaker?

tongue in cheek and other clues for all who will misread this one

tomhye
QUOTE(70sliberalism @ Jun 20 2007, 07:48 PM) *
the left and right who are so set against any kind of compromise immigration bill ought to sign up and serve this country in place of the legals and illegals whose families are making the sacrifices we benefit from. the complaining about those who do not follow all the rules will be silent here.......
she broke the laws. she entered illegally. where are all the self righteous "send 'em home now" crowd on this one?

are there good illegals and bad ones? will we see them supporting a law breaker?

tongue in cheek and other clues for all who will misread this one



She wasn't here illegally, if she was I'd still back her. Humanity has to enter the system, tougher in some ways but make the exceptions any halfway decent human would, change to rational limits and timeframes and let people live while corporations are forced out of one area for abuse to strengthen the guidance.
Indianhead
I'll hide her out.
david sobien
What does this say to the next person deported? Just marry a soldier and you are legal? Is that what the law says? If not why does not Kerry make it law instead of shooting his moth off? He is a Senator in the majority party.
grammydidi
QUOTE(david sobien @ Jun 21 2007, 10:00 AM) *
What does this say to the next person deported? Just marry a soldier and you are legal? Is that what the law says? If not why does not Kerry make it law instead of shooting his moth off? He is a Senator in the majority party.




What empathy drips from your words! Her fiance is missing and may be dead, and certainly there exists in this country room to stretch and bend the rules in certain circumstances.

And Kerry can't just tweak his nose and make a law. Kerry has every right to shoot his mouth off, he's a Senator, period. But only on the Senate floor.

I'm with Indianhead, she can come visit me for a while. I'll send a personal invitation letter if I can find the correct address.
tomhye
QUOTE(grammydidi @ Jun 21 2007, 12:34 PM) *
What empathy drips from your words! Her fiance is missing and may be dead, and certainly there exists in this country room to stretch and bend the rules in certain circumstances.

And Kerry can't just tweak his nose and make a law. Kerry has every right to shoot his mouth off, he's a Senator, period. But only on the Senate floor.

I'm with Indianhead, she can come visit me for a while. I'll send a personal invitation letter if I can find the correct address.



With ya, if Michael didn't want us to get along my response to the sociopathic crap would be strong, some individuals shouldn't be allowed to exist.
vfguenley
QUOTE(david sobien @ Jun 21 2007, 09:00 AM) *
What does this say to the next person deported? Just marry a soldier and you are legal? Is that what the law says? If not why does not Kerry make it law instead of shooting his moth off? He is a Senator in the majority party.

Marry any American and you become legal. IMHO, serve well in our military and citizenship should be automatic, goes for the wife as well.
D.O, I am usually in agreement with you, need I remind you it takes 60 votes for anything to get through the Senate.
vfguenley
QUOTE(tomhye @ Jun 21 2007, 07:25 PM) *
some individuals shouldn't be allowed to exist.

Are we to assume you would be the decider, give us an idea who survives and who doesn’t, and by what criteria?
david sobien
I am not opposed to making the law change to granting citizenship to wives of soldiers. That is why I proposed Kerry enact the bill to do so. I think that would pass muster in Congress. Kerry should do something instead of just mouthing off if he feels that way. Otherwise everyone should be treated equally under existing law.
Indianhead
What is it with the western desert?

Bro Tom (AZ) and vfguenley (NM) are Rebels in the sand,
and can still fight with each other. One fought and
rebelled (I can see that), the other was 4-F and rode
for the Underground Railroad. Both brothers of merit.

But them SOBs are as hard-headed as my Georgia wife -
sh*t, just the kind I'd back up to in a NY minute. Hoo-Ha MFs.

I think we can all agree the war widow should stay, she's paid for.
tomhye
QUOTE(vfguenley @ Jun 22 2007, 10:23 AM) *
Marry any American and you become legal. IMHO, serve well in our military and citizenship should be automatic, goes for the wife as well.
D.O, I am usually in agreement with you, need I remind you it takes 60 votes for anything to get through the Senate.



If all of us aren't in agreement on this it'd be nearly all. I wouldn't imagine many would DARE vote against it if the argument was put that way.
tomhye
QUOTE(Indianhead @ Jun 23 2007, 02:19 PM) *
What is it with the western desert?

Bro Tom (AZ) and vfguenley (NM) are Rebels in the sand,
and can still fight with each other. One fought and
rebelled (I can see that), the other was 4-F and rode
for the Underground Railroad. Both brothers of merit.

But them SOBs are as hard-headed as my Georgia wife -
sh*t, just the kind I'd back up to in a NY minute. Hoo-Ha MFs.

I think we can all agree the war widow should stay, she's paid for.


Gotta be crazy to love the desert, craziness shows. Gotta be stubborn to get along with the desert (well, that or a masochist).

Have I mentioned lately how much I love the desert?
Smartcor
The last I heard on the local news about this case, here in Mass, is that they are not pursuing the deportation any more with this woman.
Indianhead
QUOTE(tomhye @ Jun 23 2007, 04:50 PM) *
Gotta be crazy to love the desert, craziness shows. Gotta be stubborn to get along with the desert (well, that or a masochist).

Have I mentioned lately how much I love the desert?


Y'all are all magic, mystical MFs...and I'll listen to everything y'all say.
This Christian ain't ashamed to say he listens to shamans - The Great
Spirit moves in the American desert - this I believe.

QUOTE(Smartcor @ Jun 23 2007, 05:12 PM) *
The last I heard on the local news about this case, here in Mass, is that they are not pursuing the deportation any more with this woman.


Thanks. It's nice to know that justice, sanity, moves in Massachusetts.
Reminds me why I voted for a Yankee President last time. thumbsup2.gif
vfguenley
QUOTE(tomhye @ Jun 23 2007, 03:50 PM) *
Gotta be crazy to love the desert, craziness shows. Gotta be stubborn to get along with the desert (well, that or a masochist).

Have I mentioned lately how much I love the desert?

I have to pass you the high five for attitude and your love of the dez. Also I have tremendous respect for those who fought our war on the streets of America, thank you for your service tomhye, crap we could still be there had you not done such a great job of bringing our governments faults to the attention of the populous.
This desert up here where I am sits at 6000 ft, I’m 60 miles southwest of Albuquerque, what we call the “high desert”, native lands of the “Warm Springs Apache” (Lozen, Victorio, Nana and many more) and a few brave Navajo’s willing to trespass on Apache ground, and I wouldn’t trade this place for anything.
I wrote my one dem senator, Mr Bingaman, a very good man and a friend, and passed the thoughts of this thread on to him asking for his support. I usually hear back within a week, we’ll see.
I hate this war on a multitude of levels, it makes me made that some in government have nothing but short term memory. Even though the Vietnam war is still costing tons of cash and good people are still paying their dues and living with the overall negative impact that touched an entire generation, they still fail to see why elective war is wrong. They have forgotten the horrendous negative impact war either right or wrong will have on the people of conscience. It is way to easy for those in air conditioned offices to throw their influence around with a total disregard of reality, creating real problems for real people with complete abandon, ie; this poor “MIA” soldiers wife and family. If they deport her they will be deporting a piece of what makes America great, keep it up and we will no longer be able to see our selves in the luminosity and greatness we all loved and fought for.
tomhye
QUOTE(vfguenley @ Jun 23 2007, 08:42 PM) *
I have to pass you the high five for attitude and your love of the dez. Also I have tremendous respect for those who fought our war on the streets of America, thank you for your service tomhye, crap we could still be there had you not done such a great job of bringing our governments faults to the attention of the populous.
This desert up here where I am sits at 6000 ft, I’m 60 miles southwest of Albuquerque, what we call the “high desert”, native lands of the “Warm Springs Apache” (Lozen, Victorio, Nana and many more) and a few brave Navajo’s willing to trespass on Apache ground, and I wouldn’t trade this place for anything.
I wrote my one dem senator, Mr Bingaman, a very good man and a friend, and passed the thoughts of this thread on to him asking for his support. I usually hear back within a week, we’ll see.
I hate this war on a multitude of levels, it makes me made that some in government have nothing but short term memory. Even though the Vietnam war is still costing tons of cash and good people are still paying their dues and living with the overall negative impact that touched an entire generation, they still fail to see why elective war is wrong. They have forgotten the horrendous negative impact war either right or wrong will have on the people of conscience. It is way to easy for those in air conditioned offices to throw their influence around with a total disregard of reality, creating real problems for real people with complete abandon, ie; this poor “MIA” soldiers wife and family. If they deport her they will be deporting a piece of what makes America great, keep it up and we will no longer be able to see our selves in the luminosity and greatness we all loved and fought for.


I've seen where footprints just end and almost had it happen to me, have to love a place that speaks to your soul! Thank you for your service, I just did a bit of driving! Are people still watching Lone Ranger flicks to watch Tonto call the Lone Ranger Kemosabe? Going to war was a stupid decision, but knowing the region I know millions of Kurds will die if we just pull out, WimpChimp really Wolfowitzed the situation! Yeah, every politician should spend at least a few days a year on the desert, can't ignore reality here! (well, you can, but if you hug a choilla you're gonna move funny for a while) I don't understand what they think they're doing, if someone will put it on the line for our country not only should they be sure their loved ones will be citizens, all promises should be kept too!

I live just outside Tucson, just a few hundred yards from where search and rescue doesn't like to go (wish I could still go out there, too gimped up, but the desert comes to me), too many people even here (and I doubt one in a hundred respects the land or those who live here) but they all want more golf courses to waste water and make money.
Indianhead
Peyote Pirates.
Y'all are just too much...
and too similar to Rebels
to be anything else.

Liberty & Justice - our most important (gross national) product.

Seems to me Dallas is becoming La. (rainfall), so I may have to go back.
flydangler
QUOTE(Smartcor @ Jun 23 2007, 06:12 PM) *
The last I heard on the local news about this case, here in Mass, is that they are not pursuing the deportation any more with this woman
A news report here a couple days ago (on our local NPR station methinks) indicated INS'd dropped the deportation proceedin's almost a year ago and, since she's married to a citizen, were processin' her green card. Guess if Senator Kerry and WBZ-TV in Boston'd done their homework there wouldn'ta been so much hullabaloo over it, but then methinks Senator Kerry'd miss gettin' in his rhetorical statement and the TV station woulda missed out on a great (though factually deficient) news story, eh?

Don'tcha just love politicians and the news media usin' military folks and their family as pawns? Give me a break!


Indianhead
Well maybe she had been waiting...but her status was weak...until Friday.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/451801...green02.article

Wife of missing soldier finally gets a green card

July 2, 2007
BOSTON -- A woman whose soldier husband is missing in Iraq has gotten her green card after authorities threatened to deport her for entering the United States illegally.
Yaderlin Hiraldo Jimenez walked out of a Citizenship and Naturalization Services Office in Buffalo, N.Y., on Friday with her permanent residency papers, her lawyer said.

''She was moved to tears,'' attorney Matthew Kolken, who accompanied his client, told the Boston Globe for Sunday's editions.

''Her immigration problems have been solved, and now her focus is completely dedicated to her hope and desire that she's going to see her husband again,'' Kolken said.

Army Spec. Alex Jimenez, of Lawrence, Mass., has been missing since his unit was attacked in Iraq on May 12.

His wife illegally entered the United States from the Dominican Republic in June 2001, paying $500 to a smuggler.

The couple wed in 2004.

AP


It ain't done 'til it's done...and thank God...it is done.
I'm sure she feels alot better now - that's for sure. His sacrificeat least was not in vain. His love was served. Hoo-Ha.
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