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alyce
Regarding bush's visit to Canada today has anyone heard anything? Big protests?
mistral
Not even gone there for now......anyway, if you want to see protests, you better look ar foreign channels who say the truth with some "Schadenfreude" lol.gif
here, everything will be clean and smooth and the Canadiens more than happy to see Bush.
Sorry for complaining, monsieur Cmerrill, or is that complaining???? cool.gif
itsanewday


Canada is walking the diplomatic type rope while letting its concerns be known. The problem is with the administration, not Americans, but Martin still has to work with that administration, while standing his ground. Anti war protestors will still have the industries that have been hurt by trade disputes in the back of their minds, and this may keep protests to a "dull roar". But make no mistake about it, Bush is not popular among the majority of informed Canadians.


Bush's visit and any protests will be covered here.

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Friends and foes greet Bush on Hill
Last Updated Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:51:04 EST

OTTAWA - Protesters staged a small but noisy demonstration on Parliament Hill Tuesday as Prime Minister Paul Martin greeted George W. Bush to kick off the U.S. president's first official visit to Canada.

American Secret Service agents and RCMP officers equipped with rifles and video cameras kept watch over the placard-carrying crowd of about 200 as they shouted "Go Home" and other slogans at the Bush entourage.
Parliament Hill, Tuesday

    * FROM NOV. 29, 2004: Protests planned for Bush visit to Ottawa, Halifax

A small number of pro-Bush demonstrators also showed up to offer a welcome to the conservative, family-values politician. One of them held a sign reading: "The only mad cow is Carolyn Parrish," referring to the Liberal MP recently thrown out of caucus for her verbal attacks against the Americans and Bush.

There were reports that as hundreds more anti-Bush demonstrators arrive at nearby Confederation Park for a rally, they will topple a large papier mâché statue of Bush, a reference to the role he played in invading Iraq and toppling leader Saddam Hussein in the spring of 2003.

The Ottawa protest was one of about 25 planned across the country to draw attention to Bush's policies and politics during the visit. It attracted activists in favour of legalized marijuana, same-sex marriages, and a woman's right to choose, as well as groups ranging from Lawyers Against Bush to Bellydancers Against Bush.

Another major protest is planned for Wednesday morning in Halifax, where demonstrators will picket near Bush's speech at the Pier 21 immigration museum on the city's waterfront.


They are gearing up in Halifax...
itsanewday
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http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/11/29/740430-cp.html

OTTAWA (CP) - Masked bands of self-described anarchists appear at most major demonstrations, often clashing with police.

But such protesters will likely be drowned out Tuesday by a diverse throng of peaceniks as George W. Bush arrives for a two-day visit to Canada. Up to about 15,000 marchers are expected in Ottawa, and another 5,000 during his trip to Halifax on Wednesday. The only aggression openly sanctioned by rally organizers seems to be the possible "toppling" of a large papier mache likeness of the U.S. president.

The stunt would mimic images flashed around the world last year as American tanks rolled into Baghdad and U.S. soldiers helped pull down a statue of Saddam Hussein.

Demonstrators in London's Trafalgar Square used the same tactic last fall during a massive anti-Bush rally.

The five-metre Bush statue, created by Toronto artist Henry Martinuk, is to be bussed to Ottawa in three pieces and reassembled on Parliament Hill.

Busloads from across Ontario and Quebec will carry protesters with a wide range of beefs, said march organizer Joe Cressy of the No to Bush Committee. The group is a collection of labour, student, church and individual activists formed solely for the president's visit.


"You'll see the Raging Grannies in addition to radical cheerleaders, Belly Dancers Against Bush, (and) Artists Against War who have created an 'Unwelcome Mat.'

"It's going to be a breadth of opposition to the policies of the Bush administration."

The war in Iraq and U.S. plans for an anti-missile defence shield will not be the only targets, Cressy said. Demonstrators will target Bush's views against the Kyoto Accord on climate change, abortion and same-sex marriage.

Placards and jeers will also greet the president Wednesday when he heads to Halifax.

The Halifax Peace Coalition, a group of 30 church, student, human rights and labour groups, used a black banner as a backdrop Monday for a news conference.

It said: "He's not welcome, eh!"

Spokeswoman Tamara Lorincz expects about 5,000 demonstrators Wednesday at a morning rally near the city's south-end dockyards, as close as they can get to the building where Bush will speak.

"I must emphasize we expect an absolutely peaceful event," she said. "We are inviting everybody who is concerned with what is going on with the U.S. administration . . . I'm bringing out my five-month-old son and lots of banners."

The march will feature black armbands and a moment of silence to mourn the thousands of civilians killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Participants will turn their backs on Pier 21 while Bush gives his speech.

A Halifax couple that hosted an American family when planes were grounded during the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks attended the news conference.

Archie Kaiser and Anne Derrick took a family from New Jersey into their home when they were stranded in Halifax, and said they'd happily do so again.

But the couple said they won't welcome Bush to the province.

"I do not want Mr. Bush's belated appreciation for our role in the aftermath of 9-11," said Derrick, a prominent local lawyer.

"I do not like Halifax and Haligonians being used as a photo opportunity for a world leader who has blood on his hands and desperately needs any good international press he can get.

"We will not be cheerleaders for his administration's brutal foreign policies."
gmanders777
He came, he saw, but will he conquer? U.S. President George W. Bush touched down in Ottawa aboard Air Force One Tuesday morning, for a whirlwind tour that will involve talks with Prime Minister Paul Martin, opposition leaders, and a thank you visit to Halifax.

The city has been locked down like a fortress during the American leader’s visit, which is designed to repair damaged relations between the two countries.

But while Bush’s first official trip to Canada is supposed to soothe ruffled feathers, it’s obvious protestors aim to flap theirs.

As the R.C.M.P, the Secret Service, the F.B.I. and others watched carefully, about 200 protestors screamed “go home” as the Commander-in-Chief’s entourage arrived on Parliament Hill.

Police dressed in riot gear waited throughout pockets of the city, taking no chances and letting the demonstrators yell, and do very little else.

But the guests of honour chose to ignore the obvious tumult. "We're so excited to be here," gushed Laura Bush.

Among the items on the agenda in the day long visit: help in repairing war torn Iraq, the simmering softwood lumber dispute, the U.S. ban on Canadian beef, border security, trade, and perhaps the most contentious of all – Bush’s attempt to get Canadian approval for his missile defence plan.

The president travels to Halifax on Wednesday to conclude his mini-Canadian sojourn, thanking the people for their hospitality when American passengers were stranded here during the 9/11 groundings.

He chose not to speak to Parliament, likely because the heckling from Opposition members would prove an embarrassment.

It’s expected Bush will use the diplomatic mission as a launching pad to test his ability to soothe strained relations with other countries. The war in Iraq, which wasn’t approved by the United Nations, has left many nations disturbed about the way the U.S. handled its agenda.


November 30, 2004
PaineInTheArse
"He's not welcome, eh!"

I'm gonna snag that domain name!!!! It's better than "He forgot Poland".

Note my new avatar. It's from CANOE news. The caption reads "A sole early morning protester, Frederic White of Hull, carries a placard protesting the arrival of U.S. President George W. Bush outside parliament in Ottawa on Tuesday. (CP/J.P. Moczulski)"
itsanewday
QUOTE(PaineInTheArse @ Nov 30 2004, 12:28 PM)
"He's not welcome, eh!"

I'm gonna snag that domain name!!!!  It's better than "He forgot Poland".

Note my new avatar.  It's from CANOE news.  The caption reads "A sole early morning protester, Frederic White of Hull, carries a placard protesting the arrival of U.S. President George W. Bush outside parliament in Ottawa on Tuesday. (CP/J.P. Moczulski)"
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sounds good to me. although i don't know any canadians that actually say "eh". maybe in middle canada, eh?
gkerby
QUOTE(itsanewday @ Nov 30 2004, 02:11 PM)
sounds good to me. although i don't know any canadians that actually say "eh". maybe in middle canada, eh?
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They sure do in Ontario.
iaclassic
from the cbs link:
Another major protest is planned for Wednesday morning in Halifax, where demonstrators will picket near Bush's speech at the Pier 21 immigration museum on the city's waterfront.
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CBC News: Anti-Bush protesters scuffle with police
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/20...ives041130.html
itsanewday
http://www.cbc.ca/clips/mondayreport/bush_ad2.rm

video spoof. or is it? Bush on Canada.


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Being very pro-kerry like most Canadians i was disconcerted to see a pro-Rupublican overseas on cbc newsworld today blaming Kerry and democrats for the ban on Canadian beef.. which has reportedly cost canada, if my numbers are right, three billion dollars, and has been shutting down family farms everyday.

does anybody know if there is truth to this? or at least the other side of the story?

there is talk that this will be held over Paul Martin's head in exchange for use of Canadian air space for missile defence. Although with the drop in the American dollar trade would seem to be less of an economic issue.

Big corporations who hope to profit from related contract work have been very quietly lobbying Martin to work with Bush in this matter, which is a political mine field for the Martin minority goverment, as the majority of Canadian citizens are vehemently apposed to missile defence, or anything that may provoke another arms race.

Continental Divide: Challenges in the Canada-U.S. relations.

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Anti-Bush protesters scuffle with police
Last Updated Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:05:55 EST

OTTAWA - As many as 5,000 protesters thronged the streets around Parliament Hill Tuesday, hundreds of them briefly scuffling with police as they demonstrated against visiting U.S. President George W. Bush.

Disorder broke out at about 3 p.m. in front of the Chateau Laurier hotel, shortly after Bush and Prime Minister Paul Martin gave a news conference at the Lester B. Pearson Building, the headquarters of Canada's Foreign Affairs department.
Protesters come face-to-face with police in riot gear near Parliament Hill Tuesday afternoon.

Police officers in riot gear pushed back a thick crowd of anti-war activists, some of whom were shouting at the security forces and trying to jostle them with the sticks of their placards.

At least three protesters were pushed down onto the ground and arrested as CBC Newsworld television cameras recorded the action.

Some police in riot gear could be seen pulling on gas masks, suggesting that they were ready to release gas to control the crowd.

Colleagues dragged away one police officer who seemed to have been injured in the melée.

"One college student who was skipping class for the day to attend the protest told me, 'When they started pointing the tear gas guns, we decided we should go,'" said CBC News Online journalist Paddy Moore, who was on the scene writing a rolling account of events for CBC.ca.

Moore said the demonstrators seemed to be trying to advance in the direction of either the U.S. Embassy on Sussex Drive, Parliament Hill or the bridge leading to Gatineau, Que.

The latter destination is where 700 invited guests will attend a formal dinner in Bush's honour Tuesday night, at the Museum of Civilization.

The crowd had mostly dispersed by 4 p.m., with the exception of a few protesters still engaged in a faceoff with police, Moore said.

Earlier demonstrations relatively peaceful

Earlier in the day, as Bush arrived on Parliament Hill to greet Martin and sign the government guest book, U.S. Secret Service agents and RCMP officers equipped with rifles and video cameras kept watch over a peaceful crowd of about 200 as they shouted "Go Home" and other slogans.

A small number of pro-Bush demonstrators also showed up to offer a welcome to the conservative, family-values politician.

One of them held a sign reading: "The only mad cow is Carolyn Parrish," referring to the Liberal MP recently thrown out of caucus after repeated verbal attacks against the Americans and Bush.
Another scene from the Ottawa protest.

But by far the larger number of demonstrators were no fans of the American president or the war in Iraq that his administration launched a year and a half ago.

There were reports that a large papier mâché statue of Bush would be toppled during the protest, a reference to the role he played in invading Iraq and toppling leader Saddam Hussein in the spring of 2003.

    * FROM NOV. 29, 2004: Protests planned for Bush visit to Ottawa, Halifax

The Ottawa rally was one of about 25 planned across the country to draw attention to Bush's policies and politics during the visit.

Many of the Ottawa protesters were opposed to Bush's plans for a North American missile shield system that would require Canadian participation.

Also present were activists in favour of legalized marijuana, same-sex marriages, and a woman's right to choose, as well as students, grandmothers and groups ranging from Lawyers Against the War to Bellydancers Against Bush.

Another major protest is planned for Wednesday morning in Halifax, where demonstrators will picket near Bush's speech at the Pier 21 immigration museum on the city's waterfront.

Written by CBC News Online staff

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/20...ives041130.html




Protesters come face-to-face with police in riot gear
near Parliament Hill Tuesday afternoon.
itsanewday
From the CBC news photo gallery. The scene in Ottawa today:










itsanewday
belly dancers against Bush? those are brave women. It wasn't that warm today... brrrr. :o
normam
There was a little film footage on Lou Dobbs that had bush telling the audience something along the lines that he appreciated the hospitality that had been extended to him and was so happy to see the citizens waving at him-especially the ones that used ALL five fingers!!! :D
MikeCimerian
I watched live George Bush comment in his speach about all the finger signs he got. "I was saluted by all five fingers of the hand" ... laughter from the audience. Paul Martin then said : some signs transcend liguistic barriers and seem to be universal ...

It was hilarious ...
itsanewday
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/continen...ry_halifax.html CBC News Online's Nova Scotia journalist Terra Tailleur covered the streets of Halifax during the visit.. and kept a photolog of the peaceful protest.

Of the 300 invited guests some had declined for political reasons. Others were honoured to represent the many that had given with their hearts in the days following 9/11. One was a lady who had baked 200 apple pies to send to firefighters, and said she was happy and a little surprised to have even been remembered.
PaineInTheArse
QUOTE(alyce @ Nov 30 2004, 10:38 AM)
Regarding bush's visit to Canada today has anyone heard anything?  Big protests?
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This thread was active earlier in the day. It contains the text of the "beat the war drums" speech at Pier 21 in Halifax.

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http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/for...ic=7973&hl=pier
Cloudy
Bush goes to some country. Thousands protest, call him a liar, war criminal, blood on his hands.

Maybe our news tv stations don't cover it because it is the predictable norm <_<
PaineInTheArse
QUOTE(itsanewday @ Nov 30 2004, 07:22 PM)
http://www.cbc.ca/clips/mondayreport/bush_ad2.rm

does anybody know if there is truth to this? or at least the other side of the story?

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Not exactly, but just do some research on when that "downer" cow was found in Idaho or Washington (it supposedly came from Alberta). I believe it was 2-3 years ago. The import ban would have been instituted then, by the secretaries of commerce & agriculture (misinters under Bush) and the republican-controlled house and senate.

Doubt the Democrats had anything to do with it.
Cloudy
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photos from halifax today
underbear1
There were more protestors the first day. I haven't watched Bush much since the election, because it's VERY BAD for my blood pressure and my vocabulary.
I did watch him today, and my only thought was it should be Kerry addressing Canada. I did spit at the TV and yell, "(cheney) YOU!" When he talked about the equal liberties of diverse people. mad.gif mad.gif
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