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Oh, well, the same little blurb but at least they are showing something about it.

Did it come on yet?

Yes it did, but it was a repeat of a segment of a previous broadcast (they showed the video only. Here is the original transcript of the entire segment:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0412/03/acd.01.html

Many of you even those who are Democrats have probably put the November election behind you. Win or lose it is over. Not so fast. This week the Kerry campaign joined a lawsuit to force a recount in Ohio even though it is clear that it will not change anything and the votes will likely be certified on Monday. Then there are the emails and the blogs talking endlessly about how this or that was stolen or hacked or falsified in states across the country. Clearly many people continue to believe that Bush/Cheney were aided in their campaign by hanky-panky. Here's CNN's Adaora Udoji.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ADAORA UDOJI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): These Ohio voters are not convinced President Bush won their state giving him four more years in the White House.

CLIFF ARNEBECK, ATTY., COMMON CAUSE OHIO ALLIANCE FOR DEMOCRACY: Every form of irregularity that you can conceive of seemed to be happening in Ohio in this election.

UDOJI: Helped by Reverend Jesse Jackson the plan to challenge official results to be released Monday and demand a recount even though Senator John Kerry's losing campaign is not contesting the outcome. Ohio election officials say the results are sound.

CARLO LOPARD, SPOKESMAN, OHIO SECRETARY OF STATE: Democrats and Republicans are working together to make sure that they get it right.

UDOJI: It's not just Ohio. Complaints and accusations have flooded onto the Internet and in headlines almost faster than fact checkers can check them. Some theories quickly debunked by fact. The "Boston Globe" reports in North Carolina it initially appeared nearly 4,500 electronic votes had disappeared. Later an election official explained fatigued workers missed a computer signal. It was corrected.

The "New York Times" reported on accusations in Cleveland that there were more votes counted than there were voters. It turned out to be a clerical error. But the Nonpartisan Verified Voting Foundation is looking into reports of more than 37,000 incidents of election irregularities. And the U.S. Election Assistance Commission acknowledges there were glitches across the country. Machines didn't work, workers showed up late, you name it, they're reviewing it all.

DEFOREST SOARIES, ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION: The fact is the election results can be trusted. The margin this year for president was wide enough for us not to believe that any glitches would impact the outcome of the presidential race.

UDOJI: Still three Democratic congressmen have raised more election questions. They have asked the General Accounting Office to look into alleged problems and it is. Adaora Udoji, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: As we said on Monday, Ohio's secretary of state Kenneth Blackwell will certify the results in the voting in his state. We're sure that will not be the end of some of the challenges there. He joins us now from Cincinnati. Thank you for being with us Secretary Blackwell. We appreciate it. The election ended over a month ago. And yet you still haven't certified the vote and your critics are saying that you're trying to narrow the window for a recount in order to make it all but meaningless. Why is it taking so long?

KENNETH BLACKWELL, OHIO SECRETARY OF STATE: They need to take a deep breath and look at historical facts. In 2000 we certified on December 11. In 2002, December 20. We have a very thorough bipartisan process where we go vote for vote on accountability basis and we audit every precinct in the state of Ohio so that we're fully confident that when we certify we have certified every legal ballot that had been cast. We think that the voters of Ohio deserve nothing less than that sort of thorough confidence building process.

COOPER: I want to read you something that Columbus Mayor Michael Coleman who is a Democrat said about you.

He said, quote, "Ken Blackwell is the most partisan secretary of state Ohio has ever had. I have to tell you, I don't know how one can be the co-chair of the Bush presidential campaign while at the same time execute in a fair and impartial manner their duties of secretary of state."

COOPER: Of course you don't hear Democrats complaining about Democratic political operatives who are also on local election boards in Ohio but putting hypocrisy aside, why should people with political ambition be allowed to run and monitor elections, Democrat or Republican?

BLACKWELL: Because we have a very balanced bipartisan system. The parties are deeply embedded in the process.

COOPER: Should they be?

BLACKWELL: Yes. It is a very transparent process. Very open. We have a two-party system in this country. A tremendous history and our system produces free elections with clean results. That is our tradition in the state of Ohio and let me just show you something that should be clear to Mayor Michael Coleman who should be spending more time working on keeping our neighborhoods safe in Columbus and dealing with vacancy rate of downtown.

COOPER: Ouch.

BLACKWELL: The reality is that we have a Democrat who is the head of the Franklin County Board of Elections. He's not just any Democrat. Mr. Anthony is the chairman of the Franklin County Democrat party. But we have Republican chairmen who are in such leadership positions but we have balanced boards that are open and transparent and we produce good results. We have a thorough process. Like I said, we have a history of making sure that we get it right and we have gotten it right and our process for handling provisional ballots has been held up as a model in the country.

COOPER: We're going to have to leave it there. Secretary Blackwell, appreciate you joining us. We'll watch you on Monday.

That seemed like a pretty f-ing bias report. This is why I don't watch the news anymore. Print news is much easier to handle, but to hear the disdain dripping from their venom filled voices....wellll....that's too much for me. I do want to protect my sanity.

I keep asking myself, if the shoe was on the other foot, how would the repugs be acting?! What if Kerry mysteriously won, and the sec'y of state was a dem???
Something tells me they would be doing a recount, no questions asked

BLACKWELL: Yes. It is a very transparent process. Very open. We have a two-party system in this country. A tremendous history and our system produces free elections with clean results. That is our tradition in the state of Ohio and let me just show you something that should be clear to Mayor Michael Coleman who should be spending more time working on keeping our neighborhoods safe in Columbus and dealing with vacancy rate of downtown.

COOPER: Ouch.

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What was the "Ouch" Cooper was referring to?

History won't lie to you....

Perception of it might change, but it won't lie!

- perry

I am tired of being told to "get Over it"

I am Sick of hearing " We Won and You Lost! Stop being such a sore loser."

I try to tell these same people that if the shoe was on the other foot I'd still be outraged over the irregularites and fraud. I get a "yeah.... right."

This kind of Biased reporting fuels the other side of the argument. "See, even CNN thinks you're one of those 'tin-foil' hat folks" Becasue TOO MANY PEOPLE are happy with the status quo(!?!?) and just want to go on with thier Cristmas shopping to really dig down into the facts.

There was a thread earlier on voter apathy. Its sad, even those of us who were hot on this trail get worn down into submission and take on the "Wake me when its 2008" mentality. The strategy of Rove ( as I see it : the true root to all this) is incredibly thorough. Not having the media reporting on fraud as a headline helps feed the republican base of carrying on as if nothing happened and diminishes our support by wearing people thin.

Can we import some die-hard Ukranian protesters?

The video portion, which is what they are rerunning, of the report showed the demonstrators, images from a few newspapers and Jackson speaking, but they did need a person to counter Blackwell.




That part.

Recount????? *raises an eyebrow* They'd be screaming on every news outlet and newspaper available for a FULL Senate investigation complete with an independent prosecutor. AND they'd be insisting that Kerry NOT accept the presidency.

And you know? The Democrats would give them what they want (though without the Kerry part). lol Sometimes I don't understand my party at all. The Republicans would be screaming from the rafters if the shoe were on the other foot, but we just quietly go into the night and blame ourselves and our candidate for the loss.

the avatar you have of bush giving his finger floors me but does not surprise me... ever think that what he is giving back is what he is receiving from the other side... i've analyzed bush's actions and based on what i see, he seems more than willing to do the right thing depending on the information he has to work with... stop letting yourselves be pushed around by the right wing bullshit artists that are filling his ears with the whatever it is he wants to hear... you have an opinion too, you have to get it across to him but learn to do so in a non-offensive manner...

- perry

something else that came on cnn sunday was an interview with prime minister paul martin with wolf blitzer.... just a couple days after jerry falwell had his cronies poke fun at canada while the president was in canada trying to mend fences and now wolf blitzer on the same cnn station wants to know if canada is going to send troops to iraq....

well guess what, you have to be careful what you ask for because you just might get it...

canadian participation won't be a case of "stand right here and pay no attention to the fellas with scarves on their faces", thats not how we operate...

from where i'm sitting the best thing we can do is anything different from they way the americans have been trying to do it since day one.... that is, try to enfore their version of democracy on the iraqis like a catholic man might walk into a baptist church with a gun and say "ok, your going to believe in my version of jesus... or else". thats not how you get people to choose democracy....

from where i'm standing, the best way to allow iraqis to accept their own true democracy is to apply lessons learned from how democracy has been successfully formed in the past... take america, in 1776 amercians were chopping at the bit to get the world power at that time to wear itself out.... not unlike what we have in iraq today... now take a lesson in canada, did we have a revolutionary war to get our democratic society.... no! what we did was form provinces... and then had a federal government that legislated polices such as that the richer provinces transfered payments to the poorer provinces...

in iraq's case, this system has it's advantages.... first, divide iraq into at least two possibly 3 or more provinces based on two factors. the first factor being a totally democratic and internationally guarded province to the south, where the oil is. allowing all iraqis that want to live in a true democratic society a chance to move to the south and do business with the whole world.... like they truly want to do. then leave the province (or provinces) to the north to be provinically run in all matters except things like the military... they shouldn't be needing one since transfer payments from the south will allow them to build whatever society they want and worship whatever god they want with extra transfer payments going towards those provinces that show signs of democratic progress.... the other factor to be considered is to divide the northern province into provinces based on the major ethic communities, such as a kurdish province and a sunni province and whatever else that may be necessary.... from that angle, true democracy can have a chance to grow in that any incursiouns or attacks in the southern province by a smaller band of impossible to please religious nutz will have transfer payments to the north penalized until the guilty parties are found....

these are just some ideas but its all based on common sense as you cannot enforce your version of democracy on somebody no more than you can force somebody to believe in your version of jesus....

hope this helps

- perry