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Mozart
Here is the URL to an eye-opening artricle about the recent vote fraud:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MEN412A.html
I'd like to copyand paste the article here too.
I hope that this is allowed.
I'll do it now, but please let me know if this is not allowed:

"Brad Menfil is not my real name. I work for the RNC. I fear reprisals if I'm found out.

The truth about this election is this: Florida and Ohio had to go for Bush in order for him to "win" the election. In reality he lost both states. In fact, he did not even win the popular vote. He lost the national popular vote by at least 1,750,000. This shows you the scale of the fraud.

The exit polls were not wrong. Kerry was the clear winner, but victory was snatched from him.

Florida first. The 200,000+ margin of victory for Bush made this state uncontestable. Everybody assumes that even with some fraud, Kerry could never have made up the difference in a recount. But Kerry actually won by about 750,000 votes. The numbers were changed by a computer program (in both electronic and scan-tron voting systems) called "KerryLite." "KerryLite" of course is not actual name of the program. The actual name is 11-5-18-18 etc. For additional encryption, the numbers were jumbled but I'm not sure in which order. The numbers replace the letters of the alphabet. For example, K is the eleventh letter of the alphabet.

So the if-then statement goes something like this: "if total true Kerry>total true Bush, Bush x 1.04x (.04 is a random number)(total true Kerry), total true Bush". The second part of the equation takes the total number of votes cast and subtracts the new Bush total, subtracts the third party totals and leaves the rest for Kerry.

Sometimes the program would also reduce third party votes and award them to Bush. And even where Bush legitimately won, he was still awarded additional votes. The big Democratic counties (Broward for example) went to Kerry because it had to appear that everything was on the up and up. It's interesting to see this unfold. Does anybody wonder why the Republican counties were mostly counted after the Democratic counties? You should wonder, and also know that this was no accident. The Bush team had to make up the votes as the night went on.

In Ohio, computer voting fraud, vote tossing and voter suppression were the main methods. Vote tossing was simply the removal of Kerry votes and some third party votes. In some areas, the Bush vs. Kerry votes were absurd. Nine to one, eight to two.

Voter suppression took the form of making voters stand in four hour long lines. This of course took place in Democratic areas. The simplest thing to do was to have too few voting machines. Sometimes that's all it takes. People eventually lose patience and leave without casting a vote.

In other states such as New Mexico, Nevada, Iowa and New Hampshire, Kerry's leads evaporated very quickly once the polls were shut down. Kerry only won New Hampshire, but barely. As it turned out, the lead was 6% for Kerry in that state and not enough fraudulent activity took place to flip the state to Bush.

So this will all come out and be known to everyone. Nothing this massive can be kept a secret. You're already beginning to see these "irregularities" and the whisper will become a roar."

Here is another one: sad.gif

"ELECTION RESULTS IN SOUTHWESTERN OHIO

Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D. www.flcv.com/swohio.html

Three contiguous counties in southwestern Ohio, all traditionally Republican counties, gave unexpectedly large margins to George W. Bush over John F. Kerry on election night. All three counties experienced a huge increase in voter turnout. In all three counties, Bush received a higher percentage of the vote than he did in the 2000 election, and Kerry received a lower percentage of the vote than Al Gore did in 2000. This study analyzes how it happened.

In Warren County, the administrative building was locked down on election night, all in the name of "homeland security." No independent persons were

allowed to observe the vote count. Compared to 2000, the population increased by 14.75%, the number of registered voters increased by 29.66%, voter turnout increased by 33.55%, Bush's point spread increased from 42.24% to 44.58%, and Bush's victory margin increased from 29,176 votes to 41,124 votes.

In Clermont County, compared to 2000, the population increased by 4.39%, the number of registered voters increased by 10.20%, voter turnout increased by 24.86%, Bush's point spread increased from 37.50% to 41.69%, and Bush's victory margin increased from 26,202 votes to 36,376 votes.

In Butler County, compared to 2000, the population increased by 3.12%, the number of registered voters increased by 10.06%, voter turnout increased by 18.18%, Bush's point spread increased from 29.40% to 32.52%, and Bush's victory margin increased from 40,197 votes to 52,550 votes.

These three counties provided to George W. Bush a victory margin of 130,050 votes, more than his statewide margin of 119,000 votes. All the above data other than the statewide margin are figures provided on election night.

After close examination of the underlying data by precinct, I do not believe these numbers. They call into question both the voter registration data and the turnout data, and the validity of the vote count itself.

These three counties between them, Butler, Warren, and Clermont, provided all of George W. Bush's lead on election night. They also provided, by far, his three largest majorities, and the three largest increases in Bush's margin of victory among any of the 72 counties that he won. The election results in Butler, Warren, and Clermont counties should be challenged, for they call into question the results for the entire State of Ohio."
girlgeek
Oh PulEASE!

And I have a bridge to sell you.
Zearatul9ra2
You do know that anyone can post on the internet. He could be making all this up. He offers absolutely no proof of how he got this information..
Mozart
QUOTE(Zearatul9ra2 @ Dec 5 2004, 05:51 PM)
You do know that anyone can post on the internet.  He could be making all this up. He offers absolutely no proof of how he got this information..
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Yes, I agree that anyone can post anything on the internet. mellow.gif
These two articles seem credible to me, but I haven't had time to do reseearch checking them out - if such a thing is possible. cool.gif
I got them from an excellent Yahoo Kerry-Edwards list, and there were comments on the list from members who believe the contents of those articles, so that's all I can say now. blink.gif
But to me, these articles do sound credible.......
Yours sincerely,
PaineInTheArse
Here's some advice for "Brad Menfil".

1. Retain private counsel. I'm sure if money is an issue someone from ACLU would do the work pro bono.

2. Swear a deposition.

3. Submit it to the Attornies General of Ohio, Florida and US, with copies to the chair and ranking members of the House Judiciary Committee.

That not done, this is nothing more than conspiracy theory and urban legend.
Chris
Look, anybody could have written this, but that doesn't explain the fact that this guy's explanation is better than any other that I've heard on the inside. And this guy would probably get knocked off if he spoke out-so think of that before you call him a whackjob. Besides, the exit polls are never off by as much as they were in this election. If you take how much the exit polls were off by and voting irregularities throughout the United States, you would find that you have a better chance at winning the pick 6 and being struck by lightning in the same day. Think about it.

Chris
"The Law is only as good as those who enforce it."
Zearatul9ra2
Well if his story is true he should got to a newspaper and write them this rather then writing it on the internet. And sure the polls were off but they have been before and there are many variables. and here in PA Arlen spector® was expected to win the election 60-40 from the exit polls but it didnt happen he won by just 53% of the vote.

The newspapers would of been all over this if it was true but a guy or 2 going on the internet isnt enough to persuade me that anything fraudilant happened. Even if he was working for the RNC most newspapers, TV shows, documentarys would keep his identity hidden.
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