I am sick of waiting. When is this god damn recount going to happen?

Jack,

We are going to come and get you and BGstillaKerrySupporter and tie ya both up until after the votes are counted! Have seen you both posting asking the same questions almost daily.

Have patience, please

And don't worry, just kidding about the above

Blackwell has to certify the Ohio vote tomorrow, but you can bet he'll do it as late in the day as possible. All his foot dragging just makes it look MORE SUSPICIOUS!
The recount has until Jan 6th when the electoral votes are opened, not Dec 13th when the electors cast their votes.

The problem is that this is a little reminiscent of the 2000 election in the sense that if we had had more time then we would have seen Gore be inaugurated not this person we have occupying the W.H.now.

Yes, he does have to certify tomorrow. He'll probably do it at 11:59 PM. All the info I have read says that a recount cannot be started until after the original count is certified.

Unfortunately, the crook in Ohio is running out the clock.

Blackwell has done a fine job of DRAGGING his feet so that an adequate recount can not be done prior to the votes being cast. I don't think the votes can be rescinded once they are cast. It will be TOO LATE!!! :o

I like your avatar, btw, Keith Herring?

I have to keep hope, do you know when the earliest date is the recount can begin?

i guess on the dec 7, which will be bush's pearl harbor.

Ultraist,

Yes the avatar is Haring. Keith Olbermann had an expert on election law and he said until the votes are opened on Jan 6th, they could intervene and select new electors for Ohio if fraud is shown, or if Kerry won the State.
from Olbermann's blog 11/21

"Cobb, Badnarik, Arnebeck, and everybody else actually has more time than they think. I addressed this topic with the wonderfully knowledgeable George Washington University Constitutional Law professor, Jonathan Turley, back on Countdown on November 9th. He noted the election process is a little slower - and has one more major loophole - than is generally known. It begins on December 7th, the date “when you essentially certify your electors… it gives a presumption to the legitimacy to your votes. And then, on the 13th, the electors actually vote.”

But, Turley noted, “those votes are not opened by Congress until January 6. Now, if there are controversies, such as some disclosure that a state actually went for Kerry (instead of Bush), there is the ability of members of Congress to challenge.” In other words, even after the December 13th Electoral College Vote, in the extremely unlikely scenario that a court overturns the Ohio count, or that the recount discovers 4,000 Gahanna-style machines that each recorded 4,000 votes too many for one candidate, there is still a mechanism to correct the error, honest or otherwise.

“It requires a written objection from one House member and one senator,” Turley continues. Once that objection is raised, the joint meeting of the two houses is discontinued. “Then both Houses separate again and they vote by majority vote as to whether to accept the slate of electoral votes from that state.”

The disgusting part is that even if Kerry wins those house reps will not overturn it. Read the writing on the wall.

There would be a mighty protest if it's our congress that refused to reconsider! :o

If large scale fraud is proven, it would be more drastic than Watergate scandal,
NO Republican would DARE impede the election results.

We would have reason to impeach every one of them if they didn't do what the MAJORITY of voters want.

Someone needs to ask Fearless Leader the question: "Mr. President, if evidence shows thay Senator Kerry actually won the election, will you concede?"

I think the Republicans would impede the election results. They did it in 2000, and they have a bigger hold on the House and Senate now than they did at that time.

They will never allow the challenge go that far. Some judge, somewhere, is going to over rule the recount, and stop it in its tracks, just like 2000. AND, it will be the fault of the Democratic Party. They didn't take care of business. They had a majority in the Senate in 2000 and 2002, they should have introduce and passed legislation that required real election reform, not the Help America Vote Act which gets rid of paper ballots and just makes it legal and easier for the opposition to steal an election by Electronic voting. If the Democratic Party is going to continue and be successful they are going to have to be smarter, faster, and atleast as manipulative as the Republicans. For now, there is only one thing that could help rally support for this recount, and that would be for John Kerry to come forward and demand it.

Actually I think this same thing is happening in the Ukraine. I read their Congress like or whatever they have refused to change the electorate votes.
John Kerry is going to have to come forward. If he doesn't than he doesn't want to be President after all. But I prefer to believe he will if the Repugs block the recount.