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BrokeInOhio
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/results/11-02-04.htm

bush 2,858,727
Kerry 2,739,952

Difference 118,775
BrokeInOhio
QUOTE(BrokeInOhio @ Dec 6 2004, 05:00 PM)
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/results/11-02-04.htm

bush 2,858,727  50.82%
Kerry 2,739,952  48.70%
Peroutka 11,907
Cobb 186
Badnarik 14,695
Schriner 114
Zych 10
Parker 2
Duncan 16
Harris 22


Difference 118,775
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trainwreck
QUOTE(BrokeInOhio @ Dec 6 2004, 02:00 PM)
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/results/11-02-04.htm

bush 2,858,727
Kerry 2,739,952

Difference 118,775
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Game On!!
gmanders777
Get that uncle tom
4democracy
QUOTE(BrokeInOhio @ Dec 6 2004, 05:00 PM)
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/results/11-02-04.htm

bush 2,858,727
Kerry 2,739,952

Difference 118,775
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This total doesn't include the provisionals, does it?
FormerCIA
QUOTE(gmanders777 @ Dec 6 2004, 04:12 PM)
Get that uncle tom
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It does remind me of Reconstruction, but then, wasn't that a theme of Fearless Leader, the 'Carpetbagger' President?
<_<
BrokeInOhio
I believe it includes the provisionals that were supposedly counted. It doesn't include the ones they didn't count lol
kindergarten teacher
Oh good. Its a done deal. Now Blackwell can answer questions about fraud in Ohio.
searchingforsanity
What's interesting is the unofficial had Bush up 136,000 votes:

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Bush's margin of victory in the state that put him over the top in his re-election bid will be about 119,000 votes, which is smaller than the unofficial margin of 136,000, the county election board figures showed. That means Kerry drew closer by about 17,000 votes.

The margin shrank primarily because of the addition of provisional ballots that were not counted on Election Day and were not included in the unofficial tally. Overseas ballots also were added to the count in all 88 counties.

And about a quarter of Kerry's gain was the result of an electronic voting system glitch that gave Bush 3,893 extra votes in a suburban Columbus precinct. The extra votes had been included in the unofficial count, but aren't part of the official tally.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...pr/ohio_vote_17
FellowDemocrat
QUOTE(BrokeInOhio @ Dec 6 2004, 03:00 PM)
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/results/11-02-04.htm

bush 2,858,727
Kerry 2,739,952

Difference 118,775
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I noticed that the only name not capitalized is Dubya's.
ultraist
QUOTE(gmanders777 @ Dec 6 2004, 03:12 PM)
Get that uncle tom
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Many people consider that term very racist and deragatory. Blackwell shouldn't be attacked based on his race. His race has NOTHING to do with what he has done here.

I find your comment here very offensive.
TeachAmerica
QUOTE(4democracy @ Dec 6 2004, 02:16 PM)
This total doesn't include the provisionals, does it?
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Of course it includes the provisionals, but maybe not all the DESERVING provisionals. That will be part of the recount and a MAJOR part of the challenge perhaps. I'm waiting to see what hard evidence they have of fraudulant behavior.

In the recount, can we expect any change in paper ballot counting....

Is there any recourse in the recount for the machines??

If the tabulators changed the paper voting..... how does the "change" survive the official count they just finished??

There's still the machines. What proof will be presented????????
ultraist
QUOTE(kindergarten teacher @ Dec 6 2004, 04:12 PM)
Oh good. Its a done deal.  Now Blackwell can answer questions about fraud in Ohio.
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I hope he is forced to answer the questions, including the ones posited by the Judiciary Committee.

ONLY TWO PERCENT!!!!

That just kills me that a mere 2% gave Bush the Presidency. We were soooo close!!!
underbear1
racist remarks are a good way to get ignored,.......oh you already are, NEVERMIND! wink.gif
anderson_perry
QUOTE(TeachAmerica @ Dec 6 2004, 05:33 PM)
Of course it includes the provisionals, but maybe not all the DESERVING provisionals. That will be part of the recount and a MAJOR part of the challenge perhaps. I'm waiting to see what hard evidence they have of fraudulant behavior.

In the recount, can we expect any change in paper ballot counting....

Is there any recourse in the recount for the machines??

If the tabulators changed the paper voting..... how does the "change" survive the official count they just finished??

There's still the machines. What proof will be presented????????
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would someone be ever so kind as to keep a count of non-machine votes separate from the total votes....

perhaps if we eliminated those as unverifiable....

- perry
ARMYDAD
December 6, 2004
Ohio Certifies Bush as the Winner by Nearly 119,000 Votes
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 4:48 p.m. ET

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- This battleground state on Monday certified President Bush's 119,000-vote victory over John Kerry, even as the Kerry campaign and third-party candidates prepared to demand a statewide recount.

The president won Ohio with 2.86 million votes, or 51 percent, to Kerry's 2.74 million votes, or 49 percent.

The 118,775-vote lead was closer than the unofficial election night margin of 136,000, but not enough to trigger a mandatory recount. Absentee ballots and provisional votes counted after election night made most of the difference.

``This was an election where you have some glitches but none of these glitches were of a conspiratorial nature and none of them would overturn or change the election results,'' said Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who, as the state's chief election official, certified the results.

The presidential election hung on Ohio, prized for its 20 electoral votes. Not until the morning after the election did Kerry finally concede -- realizing there were not enough provisional ballots to erase Bush's lead.

But critics have cited numerous Election Day problems, from long lines, a shortage of voting machines in predominantly minority neighborhoods and suspicious vote totals for candidates in scattered precincts.

The Kerry campaign last week joined the presidential candidates for the Green and Libertarian parties who are asking for a recount. They planned to file their requests Monday and Tuesday. The Kerry camp is not disputing the outcome of the race, but wants to ensure that every vote is counted.

A ruling by a federal judge in Columbus on Friday rejected one county's attempt to stop a recount, avoiding a legal precedent that could have stopped other recounts. Green and Libertarian party candidates have already raised the required $113,600 for a recount.

The Democratic Party also said Monday it will examine reports of voting problems in Ohio.

Outgoing Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe said the party will spend ``whatever it takes'' to study complaints from Ohio voters.

McAuliffe said the study will be conducted by nonpartisan experts to be announced later, with a report issued in the spring that recommends reforms to prevent such problems in the future.

SAY WHAT = GET OUT OF TOWN MCAULIFFE = NO WONDER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE. WITH LEADERSHIP LIKE YOURS THERE WON'T BE A DEMOCRAT LEFT IN THE HOUSE OR SENATE = ARMYDAD tongue.gif

Blackwell oversaw the election process while serving as one of several statewide GOP leaders who co-chaired Bush's campaign. The 2000 Florida recount was also administered by a Republican secretary of state, Katherine Harris, who is now a member of Congress.

In a conference call with reporters, McAuliffe said the panel needs to look at the practice of secretaries of state serving as campaign officials. He said he personally thinks it's a laudable goal for election officials to be nonpartisan.

When asked if the president supports an investigation into voting irregularities in Ohio, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the election ``was viewed as very free and fair.''

``It was a clear victory for the president of the United States,'' McClellan said. ``Now is the time for us to all look forward on how we can work together to get things done.''

Ohio Republican Party Chairman Bob Bennett said any investigation or reform should be handled by the state Legislature.

``If the Democrats want to pay for a study to help them sleep at night, that's fine,'' he said. ``Just don't expect anyone to believe it's credible.''

WILL THE RIGHT-WING ARROGANCE EVER CEASE - GOD PRAY WE CAN TIE BENNETT TO ANY OF THIS AND SHIP HIS BUTT TO THE SLAMMER SO THAT HE HAS A HARD TIME SLEEPING AT NIGHT WATCHING OUT FOR HIS BOOTY.
ultraist
QUOTE(ARMYDAD @ Dec 6 2004, 05:42 PM)
December 6, 2004
Ohio Certifies Bush as the Winner by Nearly 119,000 Votes
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

``This was an election where you have some glitches but none of these glitches were of a conspiratorial nature and none of them would overturn or change the election results,'' said Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who, as the state's chief election official, certified the results.

When asked if the president supports an investigation into voting irregularities in Ohio, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the election ``was viewed as very free and fair.''
``It was a clear victory for the president of the United States,'' McClellan said. ``Now is the time for us to all look forward on how we can work together to get things done.''

``If the Democrats want to pay for a study to help them sleep at night, that's fine,'' he said. ``Just don't expect anyone to believe it's credible.''

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[B][COLOR=red]DENYING THE PROBLEM EXIST DOES WILL NOT MAKE IT GO AWAY!


Such the typical Republican mindset... mad.gif
gmanders777
QUOTE(ultraist @ Dec 6 2004, 06:32 PM)
Many people consider that term very racist and deragatory. Blackwell shouldn't be attacked based on his race. His race has NOTHING to do with what he has done here.

I find your comment here very offensive.
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I do not think it is a racist comment. I think it describes an action he is doing and
has done. Which is what the term means.
rox63
So does this mean the recounts can now begin? Have they already begun? If not, when will they?
Kra/Lee
QUOTE(underbear1 @ Dec 6 2004, 06:39 PM)
racist remarks are a good way to get ignored,.......oh you already are, NEVERMIND! wink.gif
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Some people don't even understand that his comment was racist because they never read Uncle Tom's Cabin and don't even know what it means. I know because the same thing happened when I asked a person who said the same thing, "Did you know that is a racists statement you made?" They said, "no I heard it for years." He had never even read the book. My daughter & family were on a visit to Washington D.C. when we stopped into a fountain type cafe. It had swinging chairs at the counter. A woman of color was sitting in a chair right next to my daughter. My daughter swung a chair into her accidentally. She got real mad and told my daughter, "Don't you ever do that to me again." I could tell she thought it was not respecting black people. The lady huffed out. I never got a chance to tell her my daughter had a brain injury at birth and doesn't know anything racial. She's simple-minded. Once she went up to a black family in McDonalds. She was real little, she had never seen a people of color before, as we live up North. She burst out loudly and said "Mom, they are so beautiful. She asked one of the people," can I touch your hair?" I think you are the most prettiest person I ever met."
So be cautious when you think it is a prejudice statement.
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