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Name: George W. Bush (R-TX)
Born: 1946
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: You know when a guy walks away from a National Guard obligation during wartime and gets away with it, he must come from "a good family." Not that his daddy had anything to do with his getting a Guard slot in the first place - oh, no ...




Name: Richard "Dick" Cheney (R-WY)
Born: 1942
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Says he had "other priorities." You bet he had other priorities. Imagine how early in life you must begin scheming to get away with what this guy has. He was too busy thinking about Halliburton to go fight Charlie.




Name: Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD)
Born: June 3, 1926
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: WWII
Notes: Nominated as a chickenhawk by a constituent, Roscoe Bartlett brings to his job on the House Armed Services committee a mind that’s unbiased and unprejudiced — though he had turned 18 by D-Day, when there was still plenty of opportunity to become a bona fide member of the Greatest Generation©, Roscoe let the war go by without putting on a uniform. We don’t know why; perhaps you could ask him.




Name: Rep. Charlie Bass (R-NH)
Born: January 8, 1952
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: When your old man's U.S. Representative Perkins Bass (2nd District, NH, 1955-1962), and your grandfather's Governor Robert T. Bass (NH, 1911-1913), chances are slim you'll ever get called "Private Bass," even if you are born in 1952.




Name: Rep. Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Born: January 10, 1950
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: The Congressman from Missouri and House Majority Whip who’s so concerned about defending America that offered an amendment to the law creating the Homeland Security department that would have made it tougher to sell cigarettes over the ‘Net. It wouldn’t have helped the whole country, but the part of it that belongs to Phillip Morris would have benefited. Born just about the right time for Vietnam, somehow Blunt was at Southwest Baptist University when he could have been keeping the ‘Cong out of Chillicothe, MO.




Name: Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL)
Born: 1953
Employer: Florida Taxpayers
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: When Jeb was younger he managed to avoid fighting for democracy in Vietnam. When his older brother's future job was on the line, though, he had no trouble fighting democracy.




Name: Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Born: 1943
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: There are chickenhawks, and then there are chickenhawks. Saxby Chambliss is a chickenhawk supreme. He got himself elected to the Senate by casting aspersions on the patriotism of the incumbent, Democrat Max Cleland. Cleland lost three limbs serving his country in Vietnam. Saxby Chambliss was unable to serve because of his bad knees, but somehow is able to totter along as a recreational runner.




Name: Rep. Tom "The Exterminator" DeLay (R-TX)
Born: April 8, 1947
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: One of our most-nominated chickenhawks, Mr. DeLay has said he wanted to serve in Vietnam, but was unable to since all the positions had been taken by blacks and hispanics. We suspect there might be someone in Iraq today who would be willing to trade places with Mr. DeLay ...




Name: Rep. Charles Gwynne Douglas, III (R-NH)
Born: Dec. 2, 1942
Employer: Was U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Not so notable for bellicosity, but he makes up for it with fervid Republican zeal. Graduated from UNH in 1965, when the draft was pretty strong, but went straight to BU Law. Got out of there in 1968, when it was even stronger. No problem - Ol’ Chuck was “admitted to the bar in 1968 and commenced practice in Manchester, N.H., 1970-1974,” according to an unimpeachable source. How’s he manage to avoid Vietnam? According to that same source, http://bioguide.congress.gov, the future Congressman (NH, 2nd District, 1989-1991) was a “[C]olonel, New Hampshire Army National Guard, 1968 to present.”




Name: Rep. Newton Leroy "Newt" Gingrich (R-GA)
Born: June 17, 1943
Employer: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: A virtuoso in the art of hypocrisy, the former Speaker of the House now claims the Vietnam War was a splendid idea, but at the time he opposed going himself. Newtie also speaks highly of morality, but as a serial adulterer he doesn’t want to get too close to it himself.




Name: Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Born: February 14, 1947
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayeer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Another member of New Hampshire’s hereditary political aristocracy (see also: Charlie Bass and John Sununu) Judd’s daddy was Governor of New Hampshire from 1953 to 1955. Young Judd graduated from Columbia in ‘69 and apparently went straight to BU Law until the coast was clear. For good measure, he got written up for bad knees. They weren’t so bad he couldn’t spend half his term as Governor on the ski slopes.




Name: Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL)
Born: January 2, 1942
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Dennis wasn't able to serve in the Army in Vietnam because his knees weren't up to it. He did OK as a wrestler in college, though.




Name: Sen. Chester Trent Lott (R-MS)
Born: October 9, 1941
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: We're not sure why Trent didn't serve. Maybe he didn't think he'd look good in Army green. He was a cheerleader in college instead. Wonder how he looked in a cheerleader's uniform?




Name: Sen. Don Nickles (R-OK)
Born: December 6, 1948
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Another National Guard-type Republican. It must be noted that service in the Guard these days is vastly different from what it was in the Vietnam era. When Don went in in 1970, it was a safe slot. Thanks to guys like Don, that's no longer true.




Name: Sen. J. Danforth "Dan" Quayle (R-IN)
Born: February 4, 1947
Employer: "investment firm in Phoenix" - Dan Quayle Museum
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: The Indiana National Guard was a nice safe place for young Dan during the Vietnam era. Good thing he was from "a good family" - too good to waste their boy in a war.




Name: Gov. Marc Racicot (R-MT)
Born: July 24, 1948
Employer: The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Marc got a BA in 1970, and immediately took the grad school route. Once the war was safely over he went in the service as an Army lawyer. After his gig as governor was up, he got the top spot at the RNC, likely as a reward for helping W. grab Florida.




Name: Rep. Joseph "Joe" Scarborough (R-FL)
Born: April 9, 1963
Employer: MSNBC
Conflict Avoided: Desert Storm
Notes: A former Republican congresman (1995-2002) turned MSNBC motormouth, Joe qualifies as a politician and a barking head. Where were you during Desert Storm, pal?




Name: Gov. Meldrim "Mel" Thomson (R-Orford)
Born: March 8, 1929
Employer: His Daddy's Publishing Co, Inc.
Conflict Avoided: Korea
Notes: Meldrim Thomson, New Hampshire’s quintessential Goofy Governor, once sought to arm the state’s National Guard with nuclear weapons. Some thought he wanted nukes to blast the Clamshell Alliance out of the way, so his pals at PSNH could build the Seabrook nuclear power plant. You might think that such a notoriously bellicose individual, twenty-one years old when the Reds crossed the line in Korea, might have managed to get into the fight - but you would be wrong.

Love the Roll Call and the descriptions of the Cast of Characters. I'll see what I
can do to add to the list.

IMO This is a thread that should stay!

The Media Chickenhawks, a.k.a. the BARKING HEAD BRIGADE!


Chickenhawks:
Barking Head Brigade




Name: William "Bill" Bennett
Born: 1943
Employer: Empower America
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Bill's occupation used to be "public scold," but since his gambling habit was exposed, he's a little less noisy on that front. Bill's a triple-crown winner as a former bureaucrat, a propagandist, and a barking head. (All barking heads are propagandists, but not all propagandists are barking heads.)




Name: Ann Coulter
Conflict Avoided: Desert Storm
Notes: Critics will howl that a woman can’t be a chickenhawk. In Ann Coulter’s case, that doesn’t matter; anyone with her level of bellicosity deserves to be held to a higher standard.




Name: Frank Gaffney
Born: 1953
Employer: Indeterminate
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Frank here is a very clever boy. Built a thing called the Center for Security Policy, which apparently keeps him in nice suits so he will look good in front of the TV cameras, which can't seem to get enough of him. As far as we can tell, Frank is a freelance salesman for the defense industry who is paid by an elaborately circuitous process. For all his obsession with the military, it's funny he never served.




Name: Rep. Newton Leroy "Newt" Gingrich (R-GA)
Born: June 17, 1943
Employer: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: A virtuoso in the art of hypocrisy, the former Speaker of the House now claims the Vietnam War was a splendid idea, but at the time he opposed going himself. Newtie also speaks highly of morality, but as a serial adulterer he doesn’t want to get too close to it himself.




Name: Sean Hannity
Born: December, 1961
Employer: Rupert Murdoch
Conflict Avoided: Desert Storm
Notes: Plenty of guys his age were in Desert Storm - what's his excuse?




Name: David Limbaugh
Born: December 11, 1952
Employer: newspapers with low standards
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: David's no fool - he stayed in school! Straight from high school to college in '71, where he stayed 'till '75, when the war was safely over. Poly sci major, wouldn't you know? The least annoying of the Limbaugh brothers, but only because he's more obscure.




Name: Rush Limbaugh
Born: 1951
Employer: Yack Radio
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Where to begin ... a joke about the Hindenburg? No, let's go right to the reason he had to stay home from the war - the world's most famous anal cyst. He's denied it, but www.snopes.com, the Urban Legends Reference Pages, has got the goods on him.




Name: William "Bill" O'Reilly
Born: 1949
Employer: Rupert Murdoch
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Bill O’Reilly loves to come off as a straight-talking, blue-collar kind of guy. Funny, a lot of guys who fit that description and graduated high school the same year he did - 1967 - went straight to Vietnam. Not our Bill - he went to college. And he didn’t just go to college, he spent his junior year, 1969-1970, in London. He graduated in 1971, briefly exposing him to the draft again, but Bill was miraculously spared.




Name: Michael Reagan
Born: March 18, 1946
Employer: Yack Radio
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: What are the odds anyone would know who he is if everybody didn't know who his daddy was? What are the odds he would have escaped the draft if his name had been Manual Rodriguez?




Name: Michael Savage
Born: Unk.
Employer: UNK.
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: We're not sure if this frothing lunatic is still on the air. Didn't he get canned for saying all gays should contract AIDS and die? If only he could have channeled all that animosity against Ho Chi Minh - we'd be selling Big Macs in Vietnam today!




Name: Rep. Joseph "Joe" Scarborough (R-FL)
Born: April 9, 1963
Employer: MSNBC
Conflict Avoided: Desert Storm
Notes: A former Republican congresman (1995-2002) turned MSNBC motormouth, Joe qualifies as a politician and a barking head. Where were you during Desert Storm, pal?

Bureaucratic Battalion




Name: Spencer Abraham
Born: 1952
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Our Secretary of Energy was formerly the Senator from Detroit. In his failed run for re-election the auto industry gave him ,000 - more than it gave any other senatorial candidate. Now, there’s a guy who’s eager to promote alternative energy sources! Couldn’t muster up the gumption to take on Uncle Ho, though.




Name: Eliot Abrams
Born: 1948
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: T aptant Secretary of State, Elliott Abrams now holds a National Security Council staff position. This despite widespread feeling that he ought to be in jail somewhere. After all, he was convicted of lying to Congress about the Iran/Contra affair.




Name: Gary Bauer
Born: 1946
Employer: ouramericanvalues.org
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: A reliable cog in the Republican machine, a bureaucrat under Reagan, and later a preposterous candidate for president, Gary Bauer isn’t particularly combative - he’s no Ann Coulter. Diminutive and cherubic even in his fifties, he’s hardly the sort of recruit a drill sargent would see as a potential soldier. Which is just as well, because when he otherwise would have qualified for the Vietnam draft, he had a “vague physical problem” that got him a 1-Y draft classification - “draft only if the Canadians are crossing the border shooting.”




Name: John Bolton
Born: 1948
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Let’s see - he’s the Bush administration’s man for arms control, and he opposed the Anti-ABM treaty and the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Got his start at State with help from Jesse Helms. Bolton had previously helped Helms get around campaign finance limits. For all his hawkish ways, he never found his way to Vietnam, though.




Name: Andrew "Andy" Card
Born: May 10, 1947
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Andy, as he likes to be called, used to be “the automotive industry’s main voice.” As such, he “lobbied the U.S. government against stricter fuel emissions standards.” Lobbying for the Chamber of Commerce, he “testified before Congress against the ‘Passengers' Bill of Rights.’” He got paid well enough for these services to the (business) community to be able to afford "nearly ,000 in campaign contributions in 1999-2000, including 1,000 each to fellow members of the new administration, John Ashcroft and Spencer Abraham, for their ultimately unsuccessful senate bids.” These days, of course, he’s George’s Chief of Staff. And - oh, yes - he’s a chickenhawk. (Source: Center for Responsive Politics.)




Name: Richard "Dick" Cheney (R-WY)
Born: 1942
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Says he had "other priorities." You bet he had other priorities. Imagine how early in life you must begin scheming to get away with what this guy has. He was too busy thinking about Halliburton to go fight Charlie.




Name: William "Bill" Bennett
Born: 1943
Employer: Empower America
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Bill's occupation used to be "public scold," but since his gambling habit was exposed, he's a little less noisy on that front. Bill's a triple-crown winner as a former bureaucrat, a propagandist, and a barking head. (All barking heads are propagandists, but not all propagandists are barking heads.)




Name: Don Evans
Born: 1946
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: The Secretary of Commerce has known George W. Bush from the old days in the oil industry. Evans raised over million for Bush's presedential selection. Like his pal, George, Don Evans was otherwise occupied when his country needed him to fight the 'Cong.




Name: Frank Gaffney
Born: 1953
Employer: Indeterminate
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Frank here is a very clever boy. Built a thing called the Center for Security Policy, which apparently keeps him in nice suits so he will look good in front of the TV cameras, which can't seem to get enough of him. As far as we can tell, Frank is a freelance salesman for the defense industry who is paid by an elaborately circuitous process. For all his obsession with the military, it's funny he never served.




Name: Asa Hutchinson
Born: 1950
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Our present Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security has a long career of public service. Prior to his present task of “coordinating the enforcement activities of our borders, waterways, transportation and immigration systems,” he was “Drug Tsar.” We all know how well that went. He was picked for that position while serving as a congressman from Arkansas, where he was originally plucked from obscurity as a rural lawyer by Ronald Reagan. Oddly enough, the trail of Hutchinson’s public service stops short of Vietnam.




Name: I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby
Born: 1950±
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby is Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff. He’s had a string of no-doubt well-paying government jobs in State and Defense. He’s also practiced law. In fact, he was Marc Rich’s lawyer for years. Yes — the Marc Rich whose pardon from President Clinton was excoriated by so many high and mighty Republicans. Maybe if Scooter had been a better lawyer, his client wouldn’t have needed that pardon. Speaking of legal questions, “Scooter” is alleged by some to have traded energy stocks while helping his buddy Dick Cheney cook up a new energy policy in secret. He’s also suspected of having inserted the bogus “Niger yellowcake” reference into the President’s State of the Union address. As if all that weren’t enough, he’s also a top suspect in the outing of CIA operative Valeria Plame. Clearly “Scooter” is a ballsy kind of guy, so it’s a complete mystery to us why, when he graduated from Phillips Andover in 1968, he didn’t enlist in the Marines or go Airborne instead of going to Yale.




Name: Richard Perle
Born: 1941
Employer: Impossible to say for sure
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Along with Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle is one of the chief architects of the present debacle in Iraq. Nicknamed “The Prince of Darkness,” he was chairman of the Defense Policy Board. He got demoted to board member after an ethics flap. Space does not permit even an index to the reasons why this man should not be trusted.




Name: Donald "The Don" Rumsfeld
Born: 1932
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Korea
Notes: When the shooting started in Korea Rummy here was either 18, or about to turn 18. Not to worry for him, though — he spent the war at Princeton, wearing a ROTC uniform. Once the war was over he flew jets for the Navy for a few years. Defenders of Rumsfeld will say he’s no chickenhawk — he served, and it’s not his fault the war ended before he got his commission. To which others answer, “plenty of farmers and mechanics and kids just out of high school served. Anyone as full of whatever that stuffing in him is, could have tried out for a battlefield commission.”




Name: Paul Wolfowitz
Born: 1943
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Deputy Secretary for Defense - yet another Bush administration man in the Pentagon who has no idea what it's like to wear a uniform. He got a BA at Cornell in 1965. Maybe if we'd had a guy as bright as he thinks he is in Vietnam, it would have turned out differently.

Chaplain Corps




Name: Rev. Jerry Falwell
Born: 1933
Employer: Thomas Road Baptist Church
Conflict Avoided: Korea, Peacetime Draft
Notes: Jerry could probably have served in Korea - other kids his age did. He certainly could have been drafted into the peacetime Army. He called the members of his '70's cult the Moral Majority "soldiers of morality." For all his loathing of communism, it's a pity he didn't get to kill a few when he was young.




Name: Dr. Marion "Pat" Robertson
Born: 1930
Employer: Christian Broadcasting Network
Conflict Avoided: Korea
Notes: Dr. Pat claimed in his biography to have "seen combat in Korea. He was in Korea in uniform briefly, but his daddy the Congressman got his reassigned to Japan. His picture belongs in the dictionary next to "pious fraud." Just recently declared that the State Department ought to get nuked, but has yet to be indicted for uttering a terrorist statement.

Propaganda Platoon




Name: Ken "Cakewalk" Adelman
Born: Unk.
Employer: Was U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: “I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk.” - Washington Post, February 13, 2002




Name: Roger Ailes
Born: May 15, 1940
Employer: Rupert Murdoch
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: The head honcho of Fox "News." Some might say that Ailes is too old to excoriate for failing to fight the 'Cong, since he was about 24 when the Gulf of Tonkin happened. As Tom Rohde wrote us, "My birthday is June 7, 1940 and I was drafted and served in Vietnam." Besides, this is the guy whose commercials sold Richard Nixon to the American public - and his career went straight downhill from there! Dante is working on a sequel to "The Inferno" in order to encompass a suitable fate for this chickenhawk.




Name: William "Bill" Bennett
Born: 1943
Employer: Empower America
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Bill's occupation used to be "public scold," but since his gambling habit was exposed, he's a little less noisy on that front. Bill's a triple-crown winner as a former bureaucrat, a propagandist, and a barking head. (All barking heads are propagandists, but not all propagandists are barking heads.)




Name: Neal Boortz
Born: April 6, 1945
Employer: Yack Radio
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Mr. Boortz, or, as he likes to be called, "The High Priest of the Church of the Painful Truth," for all his bluster, failed to muster during the 'Nam. His online bio blithely ignores the war. Apparently his local draft board ignored him. Wonder how that happened?




Name: Rev. Jerry Falwell
Born: 1933
Employer: Thomas Road Baptist Church
Conflict Avoided: Korea, Peacetime Draft
Notes: Jerry could probably have served in Korea - other kids his age did. He certainly could have been drafted into the peacetime Army. He called the members of his '70's cult the Moral Majority "soldiers of morality." For all his loathing of communism, it's a pity he didn't get to kill a few when he was young.




Name: James "Jim" Finnegan
Born: August 1, 1930
Employer: William "Bill" Loeb
Conflict Avoided: Korea
Notes: Next to God himself - sorry, we mean William Loeb - Jim Finnegan probably wielded the most feared editorial pen in the Granite State. Oddly enough for a guy born in 1930, he never got around to serving in Korea.




Name: Frank Gaffney
Born: 1953
Employer: Indeterminate
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Frank here is a very clever boy. Built a thing called the Center for Security Policy, which apparently keeps him in nice suits so he will look good in front of the TV cameras, which can't seem to get enough of him. As far as we can tell, Frank is a freelance salesman for the defense industry who is paid by an elaborately circuitous process. For all his obsession with the military, it's funny he never served.




Name: Rep. Newton Leroy "Newt" Gingrich (R-GA)
Born: June 17, 1943
Employer: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: A virtuoso in the art of hypocrisy, the former Speaker of the House now claims the Vietnam War was a splendid idea, but at the time he opposed going himself. Newtie also speaks highly of morality, but as a serial adulterer he doesn’t want to get too close to it himself.




Name: Lee Greenwood
Born: Unk.
Employer: the Record Racket
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: He gets all het up about how great the troops are, but being one himself would have put the kibosh on his Vegas lounge act.




Name: Sean Hannity
Born: December, 1961
Employer: Rupert Murdoch
Conflict Avoided: Desert Storm
Notes: Plenty of guys his age were in Desert Storm - what's his excuse?




Name: Brit Hume
Born: 1943
Employer: Rupert Murdoch
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Master of the curled lip, stiff as a frozen haddock, Hume walks point for Rupert Murdoch every weekday from 6 to 7 pm. You might call him the Prime Time Propagandist.




Name: William "Bill" Kristol
Born: 1953 +/-
Employer: The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: The son of the “godfather of neoconservatism,” he’s smooth talker, but he never walked the walk in the glorious crusade against Charlie. Bill - where were ya?




Name: Richard "Dick" Lessner
Born: Unk.
Employer: www.american-renewal.org
ex-Manchester (NH) Union-Leader
Conflict Avoided: Vietnm
Notes: Richard “Dick” Lessner did a brief but hilarious stint as Jim Finnegan’s successor at the Manchester Union Leader (he got canned after a column poking fun at French Canadians blew up in his face). Lessner’s writing style always reminded us of Major Amos. B. Hoople in Gene Ahern's comic, "Our Boarding House.” As did his physical presence, which the Gazette's editor had the pleasure of experiencing during a chat in his office on William Loeb Drive, thanks to the kind offices and ample gall of our War Correspondent. Unlike the fictitious Major, though, Lessner never spent a day in uniform. He spent the ‘Nam years in Divinity School.




Name: William "Bill" Loeb
Born: 1905
Employer: Self
Conflict Avoided: WWII
Notes: Publisher of the infamous Manchester (NH) Union-Leader. A chickenhawk extraordinaire, who kept a whole coop of chickenhawks on his payroll to cluck a whole state into submission. The thrice-married Loeb’s love life could have been the inspiration for Newt Gingrich’s, but that needn’t concern us here. He once provoked his mother into suing him, but again, that’s not the point. Plenty of men his age served in WWII. Somehow Bill managed not to. The Gazette's voluminous archives include a letter from Loeb, on Union Leader stationery, to the present editor of the Gazette. What will that be worth on e-bay one day?




Name: Joseph "Joe" McQuaid
Born: February 12, 1949
Employer: The Manchester Union Leader
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Chronologically the last, and indesputably the least in a long line of Union Leader chickenhawks, Joe graduated from Manchester Memorial High in ‘67 and slid right on over to UNH. He bailed in ‘69, though. Good thing for him he had a “trick shoulder.” Went to work at the Manchester daily his daddy co-founded, and rose to the top with a lot of help from the Grim Reaper. Funny thing - that trick shoulder never hurt his golf game.




Name: William "Bill" O'Reilly
Born: 1949
Employer: Rupert Murdoch
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Bill O’Reilly loves to come off as a straight-talking, blue-collar kind of guy. Funny, a lot of guys who fit that description and graduated high school the same year he did - 1967 - went straight to Vietnam. Not our Bill - he went to college. And he didn’t just go to college, he spent his junior year, 1969-1970, in London. He graduated in 1971, briefly exposing him to the draft again, but Bill was miraculously spared.




Name: Dr. Marion "Pat" Robertson
Born: 1930
Employer: Christian Broadcasting Network
Conflict Avoided: Korea
Notes: Dr. Pat claimed in his biography to have "seen combat in Korea. He was in Korea in uniform briefly, but his daddy the Congressman got his reassigned to Japan. His picture belongs in the dictionary next to "pious fraud." Just recently declared that the State Department ought to get nuked, but has yet to be indicted for uttering a terrorist statement.




Name: Michael Savage
Born: Unk.
Employer: UNK.
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: We're not sure if this frothing lunatic is still on the air. Didn't he get canned for saying all gays should contract AIDS and die? If only he could have channeled all that animosity against Ho Chi Minh - we'd be selling Big Macs in Vietnam today!




Name: Rep. Joseph "Joe" Scarborough (R-FL)
Born: April 9, 1963
Employer: MSNBC
Conflict Avoided: Desert Storm
Notes: A former Republican congresman (1995-2002) turned MSNBC motormouth, Joe qualifies as a politician and a barking head. Where were you during Desert Storm, pal?




Name: Donn Tibbetts
Born: November 29, 1930
Employer: The Manchester Union Leader
Conflict Avoided: Korea
Notes: Hey - it’s not our fault so many of New Hampshire’s Notable Chickenhawks worked for the Union Leader. Birds of a feather, you know. For decades, Donn Tibbetts played reporter in the pages of Bill Loeb’s infamous Onion Loader. No doubt generations of reporters learned how to subtly skew their stories by scrutinizing his work while getting their tickets punched at our quadrennial President-fest. This feisty workingman’s hero inexplicably missed service in Korea, despite being a ripe nineteen when the shooting started. Go figure.

Sui Generis



Name: Ted Nugent
Born: 1948
Employer: confused teenage boys?
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: The image says it all - all image: our hero stands in combat attire, equipped with not just one, but two phallic symbols. Do we detect a hint of insecurity regarding manhood here? Standing in front of a band of cartoon brothers, he rests his boot on Saddam Hussein’s posterior. And yes, that flag is mounted on a spear. And yes, there is blood dripping from the tip of the spear. Mr. Nugent claims to be drug free, but if anyone has ever everdosed on bloodthirsty jingoism, it’s him. Born in 1948, there’s no way this bad boy would have missed a chance to kill for his country, right?

According to a widely-circulated account which we’ve never seen refuted, here’s how Mr. Nugent dodged the draft. "He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. ‘... but if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd killed all the hippies in the foxholes...I would have killed everybody.’” -- Detroit Free Press Magazine, July 15, 1990

Our thanks to “a bitter Gulf War veteran” for the straight dope on this straight dope.

The Legal Department




Name: John Ashcroft
Born: 1942
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: As we will never tire of saying, this guy lost an election to a dead man. Where do you go from there? If a Bush is in office, you rise. Annointed himself with Crisco before being sworn in. Also afraid of calico cats. Famously said, "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists, for they erode our national unity and diminish our resolve. They give ammunition to America's enemies and pause to America's friends."





Name: Antonin Scalia
Born: March 11, 1936
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: The Peacetime Draft
Notes: Associate Supreme Court Justice Scalia - how come he wasn't caught in the peacetime draft of his youth? We dunno ... ask him.




Name: Clarence Thomas
Born: 1948
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Avoided the draft thanks to a school deferment. Got the deferment thanks to affirmative action at Holy Cross and Yale. Of course he's staunchly anti-affirmative action. He saw no conflict of interest deliberating recounts in Florida and the outcome of the 2000 election while his wife, Virginia, who works for the influential conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation, gathered resumes for appointments in a possible Bush administration.

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and the list continues...

Kerik's coordination of command and control on 9/11 was excoriated as "not worthy of the Boy Scouts ... a scandal" by John Lehman, the conservative Republican member of the 9/11 commission.



President George W. Bush and Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik discuss the creation of police forces in Iraq during a joint address to the media on the South Lawn Friday, Oct. 3, 2003. "Four months ago -- four-and-a-half months ago, when I arrived in Iraq, there were no police -- very few, if any," said Mr. Kerik. "In the last four months, we brought back more than 40,000 police, 450 cars in Baghdad, stood up 35 police stations in Baghdad."

Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...17-14-515h.html

Source: http://scroom.com/chickenhawkblues/
Now doesn't the "SHRUB" look good as a Nam Vet? LOL - The Trouble is, Ol' Georgey is just a plain ol' CHICKENHAWK.

I want to make this into a poster and hang it on my wall!
Gee...I could create a ChickenHawks most wanted list and post their pictures all over a wall too.....Wish I could afford to rent a Highway Sign...(they aren't allowed where I live anyway...doesn't blend into the environment (translated Pine Trees).

The very first post in this thread has a link for the first couple dozen chickenhawks. That site has photos, just the text was brought over here.

...thanks PITA... Just gave me a great idea. Put them all on a huge pegboard at some darts and we have a new boardgame "The Chickhawk game) Point Values
assigned (the worse the chickenhawk, the higher the point count for hitting the picture with the dart! highest score wins....mmmm...I've gotta work out more rules. What do you think?

Coward of the Country
(To the tune of "Coward of the County" by Kenny Rogers)

Everyone considered him the coward of the country
He never went to Vietnam though he thought it a just war
His mamma named him Georgie, the folks just called him Dubya
But something always told me he was looking for a war

He spent Vietnam safely hidden in the Air Guard
Life looked after Dubya cause he was his father's son
I still recall the fateful words when daddy lost to Clinton
"Son, my career's over, but yours has just begun

Promise me son not to do the things I've done
Walk away from danger if you can
They can't call you weak if you slaughter men like sheep
I hope you're smart enough to understand
If lots of others die you'll be a man

There's some war for everyone and Dubya's was bin Laden
As commander-in-chief they'd have to treat him like a man
No matter how hard he tried he just couldn't get bin Laden
But he'd bomb other countries ...there was lots of them

Dubya watched the tv and he saw his soldiers dyin'
The cryin' wives, civilian lives, a devastated land
He reached above the fireplace and took down his daddy's picture
As his pride grew on his smiling face, he heard these words again

"Promise me son, not to do the things I've done
Walk away from danger if you can
They can't call you weak, if you slaughter men like sheep
I hope you're smart enough to understand
If lots of others die you'll be a man"

The other leaders laughed at him when he gave up diplomacy
Even his allies said they wouldn't support him no more
When Dubya he gave up they said, "Hey look dumb Dubya's failing"
But you could have heard a bomb drop when Dubya started a new war

Fifty years of failure, was bottled up inside him
He wasn't holding nothing back, he let 'em have it all
When Dubya finished bombing, not a country was left standing
He said, "I've a big penis" as he watched the last bomb fall
And I heard him say

"I promised you dad, not to do the things you done
I walk away from danger when I can
Now please don't think I'm weak, I didn't fight for my country
And papa I have come to understand
When lots of others die you are a man
Everyone considerd him the coward of the country

How about on a deck of playing cards? The military used that trick for Saddam's gang.

MARC RACICOT

http://www.chickenhawkcards.com/

Columns are off, but you get the idea.

Click on a link to preview the cards!

Spades Hearts Diamonds Clubs
A Dick Cheney Karl Rove Elliott Abrams Paul Wolfowitz
K Richard Perle John Ashcroft Dennis Hastert Bill Bennett
Q Condoleeza Rice Katherine Harris Lynn Cheney
Ann Coulter
J Rush Limbaugh Bill O'Reilly Joe Scarborough Sean Hannity
10 John Bolton Ken Adelman Jeb Bush Tom DeLay
9 Roger Ailes Brit Hume Tony Snow Alan Keyes
8 Kenn Starr Antonin Scalia Ted Olson Clarence Thomas
7 Andrew Card Don Evans Michael Ledeen Marc Racicot
6 Bob Barr Newt Gingrich Bob Dornan Trent Lott
5 Phil Graham Steve Forbes Dan Quayle Tim Hutchinson
4 Mitch McConnell Don Nickles Saxby Chambliss Mark Souder
3 Pat Robertson Jerry Falwell Gary Bauer George Will
2 Dennis Miller Ted Nugent Michael Weiner Matt Drudge

Ann Coulter displayed here as an example

"The Deck of Republican Chickenhawks
REPORTING FOR DUTY!
THEY'RE ALL FOR WAR...
AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HAVE TO SERVE!

CHICKENHAWKS (Music.......The eyes of Texas are upon you....Taps)



I love to wave old Glory, I'm as patriotic as can be,

I love to sing that song from sea to shining sea

But those folks waging war

sending our youth to die

question dissent, which is our right

and they never fought one fight

they're

................................................................................
....................

chorus: CHICKEN HAWKS CHICKENHAWKS

phony wantabees

CHICKENHAWKS CHICKENHAWKS

deferred from the military

We salute the ones who serve this land

and make us proud you see

but those CHICKENHAWKS, CHICKENHAWKS

get no respect from me.

verse II:.............................................................................


Our young soldiers are brave, brave as they can be

but those CHICKENHAWKS have wings

that fly away from the enemy

They never fight the battle and sell wars

to you and me

and those CHICKENHAWKS,

CHICKENHAWKS get no respect from me.

................................................................................
.............

Repeat the Chorus

But Weren't All of the Conservative Warmongers AWOL?

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi

Ambassador to Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad (right) is congratulated by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz (center) and Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Peter Pace (left), U.S. Marine Corps, after receiving the Department of Defense Distinguished Public Service Award from Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld in a ceremony at the Pentagon on Dec. 14, 2004. DoD photo by Helene C. Stikkel. (Released)

Name: Paul Wolfowitz
Born: 1943
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Deputy Secretary for Defense - yet another Bush administration man in the Pentagon who has no idea what it's like to wear a uniform. He got a BA at Cornell in 1965. Maybe if we'd had a guy as bright as he thinks he is in Vietnam, it would have turned out differently.

Rescued from the old Kerry Forum before shutdown



i'll post the lists in subsequent messages from here

AEI - American Enterprise Institute

http://www.aei.org/

Gautam Adhikari
Joseph Antos
Leon Aron
Claude E. Barfield
Roger Bate
Walter Berns
Douglas J. Besharov
Karlyn H. Bowman
John E. Calfee
Charles W. Calomiris
Elizabeth L. Cheney
Lynne V. Cheney
Christopher DeMuth
Thomas Donnelly
Nicholas Eberstadt
Eric M. Engen
Mark Falcoff
J. Michael Finger
David Frum
Reuel Marc Gerecht
Newt Gingrich
James K. Glassman
Robert A. Goldwin
Michael S. Greve
Robert W. Hahn
Kevin A. Hassett
Steven F. Hayward
Robert B. Helms
Frederick M. Hess
R. Glenn Hubbard
Leon R. Kass M.D.
Jeane J. Kirkpatrick
Marvin H. Kosters
Irving Kristol
Randall S. Kroszner
Desmond Lachman
Michael A. Ledeen
James R. Lilley
Lawrence B. Lindsey
John R. Lott Jr.
John H. Makin
Allan H. Meltzer
Joshua Muravchik
Charles Murray
Michael Novak
Norman J. Ornstein
Richard Perle
Danielle Pletka
Sarath Rajapatirana
Sally Satel M.D.
William Schneider
Joel Schwartz
J. Gregory Sidak
Radek Sikorski
Christina Hoff Sommers
Samuel Thernstrom
Fred Thompson
Peter J. Wallison
Scott Wallsten
Ben J. Wattenberg
John Yoo
Karl Zinsmeister

Carlyle Group

http://www.thecarlylegroup.com/eng/index.html

Kenneth S. Abramowitz
Tamotsu Adachi
Daniel F. Akerson
Kenneth Albolote
Hafiz Ali
Mark L. Alter
Harry L. Alverson
Alexander S. Arkin
Leslie L. Armitage
Haruyasu Asakura
Henry P. Aszklar Jr.
James A. Attwood Jr.
Guido Audagna
Joaquin Avila
Gregor P. B”hm
Adolfo Babatz
Dayne Baird
James A. Baker III
Creighton P. Barker
John D. Barker
Wa‰l O. Bayazid
Gregory A. Beard
Dan Bellissimo
Greg S. Bennett
Aaron Benway
Gesualdo Di Bernardo
Brian A. Bernasek
Afsaneh Mashayekhi Beschloss
Sameer Bhargava
Gary A. Bleiberg
Gary E. Block
Matthew P. Boyer
Paul B. Brady
W. Lane Britain
Robert D. Brown
Timothy J. Bruning
Jay Hun Bu
Gregory S. Buchanan
Mehmet I. Budak
Lars U. Buttler
Jonathan M. Bylin
Frank C. Carlucci
Lee H. Carson
Allen L. Cashion
Claudio Catania
Kandasamy Chandrasekar
Xavier Chevreux
Diane Choa
Fernando Chueca
Andrew J. Chung
Peter J. Clare
Daniel J. Clarke
Brooke B. Coburn
Veronique Cochais-Widmer
Benoit Colas
Jonathan E. Colby
Steven Colder
Kristen M. Colston
Elena Coluccelli
Michael J. Connelly
William E. Conway Jr.
Daniel W. Cummings
Oussama Daher
W. Robert Dahl
Bruno Mourgue d'Algue
David B. Daniel
Daniel A. D'Aniello
Richard G. Darman
Agnes Defix
Kimberly Delancey
Laure Delplanque
Marc A. Demumieux
Jim H. Derryberry
Pierre-Olivier Desplanches
Philip B. Dolan
Adam A. Duarte
Robert J. Dunn
Campbell R. Dyer
Robert Easton
Eric J. Edell
Thomas F. Ellis III
Pedro de Esteban
B. Edward Ewing
Franck Fal‚zan
F. Mark Fariborz
Russell C. Farscht
Eric Fellhauer
Janine Feng
Jeffrey W. Ferguson
Charles S. Field
Francis A. Finelli
Christopher Finn
Wilfred A. Finnegan
Jaclyn G. Fitts
David J. FitzGerald
Rodrigo Fonseca
Patricia Fontaine
Leonie Foong
Thomas Fouss‚
Mark A. Frantz
Ian Fujiyama
Jacques V. Galante
JP Gan
Thomas P. Garrigan
Michael D. Gershenson
Louis V. Gerstner Jr.
Helen H. Gim
Claudio Giuliano
Alan S. Goldfarb
Kristina W. Gordon
Anand U. Gowda
Robert E. Grady
Glori Holzman Graziano
Alexander D. Greene
Gene G. Greiner
Ronald M. Grobeck
Andrew M. Gu
Haroun van H”vell
Steven Ham
Benno Hank
John Hanlon
Wolfgang Hanrieder
John F. Harris
Ryan A. Harris
Christa Hassanein
Parker Hayden
Brian W. Hayhurst
Sean He
Leo Helmers
Ted Hobart
Christopher J. Hodges
Robert Hodges
Michael Hoffman
Markus Hofmann
Allan M. Holt
Tony Jansz
Karthic Jayaraman
D. Scott Jenkins
Praveen R. Jeyarajah
Walter Jin
E. Bartow Jones
Hayden R. Jones
Nigel W. Jones
Tyson Kane
Mbago Kaniki
Shoney Katz
Florian Kawohl
Thomas C. Keene
William E. Kennard
Samir C. Khiroya
James Y. Kim
Michael ByungJu Kim
Yong Hyun Kim
SangWook Kim
Suyi Kim
Megumi Kiyozuka
Susan Lee Ko
Jay Koh
Teck C. Kong
Saim U. Korlu
Kent Kresa
Kuo Chuan (KC) Kung
David G. Kupperman
John Il Kwun
Anupam Ladha
John Lancaster
Edoardo Lanzavecchia
Pierre F. Lapeyre Jr.
Joshua W. Larson
Vladimir Lasocki
Gregory S. Ledford
Jason H. Lee
David M. Leuschen
Arthur Levitt
Duncan Lewis
Eric Liaw
Christopher S. Lippman
Joseph E. Lipscomb
Sean O. Low
Marilyn Lucas
Yi Luo
Rachel L. Lupiani
John Major Right Honorable
Luca Malighetti
Edward Man
Zeina J. Mansour
Alexis Martineau
Masato Marumo
Edward J. Mathias
Thomas B. Mayrhofer
Wulf Meinel
Eliot Merrill
Jean-Pierre Millet
Maki Mitsui
Shary Moalemzadeh
Jeffrey D. Moelis
Nazo Moosa
Alicia Morga
Barbara Murphy
Matthew D. Murray
Pier Felice Murtas
Hiroaki Nakai
Brian D. Nelsen
Todd Newnam
Christina Shieu-yeing Ng
Gregory M. Nikodem
Georg Nolting-Hauff
Guido Funes Nova
Douglas G. Nyhoff
Josh B. Ofstein
Arturo Olvera
Janegail Orringer
Javier Osa
Gregory T. O'Shea
Stephen D. Owens
Linda Pace
Adam J. Palmer
Mario Pardo
Sang Pil (Philip) Park
Andrew J. Park
Thaddeus A. Paul
Filippo Penatti
Olivier Petreschi
J�rgen Pinker
Barbara Polito
Jerome H. Powell
K.V. (Ramki) Ramakrishna
D. Justin Ramsey
Thomas M. Ray
Jamieson Reigle
Agnes Riban
James Rice
James S. Riepe Jr.
Rufus H. Rivers
Bruce E. Rosenblum
Steve Rosengarten
Roberto De Rossi
Charles O. Rossotti
Daniel F. Rourke
David M. Rubenstein
Michael Ruggles
Heiner Rutt
Paulina Rychenkova
Masatomo Sakairi
Edward V. Samek
Eric E. Sasson
Roy Schaham
Jamie E. Schmidt
Mark J. Schoenfeld
Leigh Ann Schomburg
Dennis Schulze
Michael C. Schuster
David S. Schwarz
Ryan M. Schwarz
Mark P. Serrano
Bhavin B. Shah
Nicholas Shao
Donald D. Sheets
James C. Shevlet Jr.
Ryoko Shimokawa
Andy Shinn
Adrian M. Siew
Catherine Simoni
Kanwaljit Singh
Eric B. Slaim
Douglas J. Speckmann
Charles R. Steel
Michael D. Stewart
Alexander H. Strassburger
Robert G. Stuckey
Martin W. Sumner
Luis T‚llez
Steven C. Tagtmeier
Daisuke Takatsuki
Junji Tanaka
Koichiro Taniyama
Reiji Terasaka
Andrei Terekhov
Allan C. Thygesen
Takaomi Tomioka
Arthur S. Torrey
Hideyuki Tozawa
Alexander G. Troup
Wayne Wen-Tsui Tsou
David T. W. Tung
Christopher W. Ullman
Miguel Valenzuela
Alex Wagenberg
Elliot J. Wagner
Michael Wand
Andrew W. Ward
Stephanie Warnke
Claudius Bud) E. Watts IV
David M. Waxman
R. Brent Whisenant
Raymond A. Whiteman
Bradley L. Whitman
G. Douglas Wiley II
Dominik Winau
Elaine H. Wong
Kazuhiro Yamada
Xiang-Dong (X.D.) Yang
Alex S. Ying
Jong-Ha James Yoon
Glenn A. Youngkin
Jonathan Zafrani
Gregory M. Zeluck
Tingting Zhong
Michael J. Zupon

PNAC - Project for a New American Century

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Morton Abramowitz
Elliot Abrams
Gordon Adams
Ken Adelman
Richard V. Allen
Mark A. Anderson
Richard L. Armitage
Ron Asmus
Ronald Asmus
Andrew Y. Au
Gary Bauer
Jeffrey Bell
William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner
Robert L. Bernstein
John R. Bolton
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Rudy Boshwitz
William F. Buckley Jr.
Jeb Bush
Frank Carlucci
Linda Chavez
Dick Cheney
Steven C. Clemons
Eliot A. Cohen
Seth Cropsey
Ivo H. Daalder
Helle Dale
Midge Decter
James Dobbins
Paula Dobriansky
Thomas Donnelly
Nicholas Eberstadt
Robert Edgar
Amitai Etzioni
Lee Feinstein
Edwin J. Feulner Jr.
Steve Forbes
Hillel Fradkin
Aaron Friedberg
Francis Fukuyama
Frank Gaffney
Peter Galbraith
Jeffrey Gedmin
Sam Gejdenson
Robert S. Gelbard
Reuel Marc Gerecht
Merle Goldman
Philip Gordon
Daniel Goure
Charles Hill
Fred C. Ikle
Martin S. Indyk
Bruce P. Jackson
Eli S. Jacobs
Michael Joyce
Donald Kagan
Robert Kagan
Max M. Kampelman
Adrian Karatnycky
Penn Kemble
Craig Kennedy
Zalmay Khalilzad
Jeane Kirkpatrick
Harold Hongju Koh
Charles Krauthammer
William Kristol
John Lehman
Lewis E. Lehrman
I. Lewis Libby
Tod Lindberg
James Lindsay
Bette Bao Lord
Rich Lowry
Connie Mack
Christopher Makins
Mary Beth Markey
Will Marshall
Clifford May
Daniel McKivergan
Edwin Meese III
Joshua Muravchik
Michael O'Hanlon
Martin Peretz
Richard Perle
Daniel Pipes
Danielle Pletka
Norman Podhoretz
John Edward Porter
Dan Quayle
Peter W. Rodman
Stephen P. Rosen
Dennis Ross
Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld
Randy Scheunemann
Gary Schmitt
William Schneider Jr.
Sin-Ming Shaw
Richard H. Shultz
Paul Simon
Walter Slocombe
Henry Sokolski
Stephen J. Solarz
Helmut Sonnenfeldt
James B. Steinberg
Leonard Sussman
John J. Sweeney
Dick Thornburgh
John Tkacik
Arthur Waldron
Malcolm Wallop
James Webb
Vin Weber
George Weigel
Caspar Weinberger
Paul Weyrich
Leon Wieseltier
Chris Williams
Jennifer Windsor
Marshall Wittmann
Paul Wolfowitz
R. James Woolsey
Larry Wortzel
Robert B. Zoellick

Thank you, luaptifer!

Oh excellent detail. Please visit sites the Republicans frequent and post this.

DeLay is the most incredibly scummy human being...God, he never fails to shock.

Thanks, luaptifer, that's a dory load of names to add to the DU demopedia

nice chickenhawks video!

http://www.symbolman.com/chickenhawks.html

Too much! I never knew there were so many chickenhawks. Well, Nixon didn't get me, and Bush won't get my son. I'll move us all to New Zealand if I have to.