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Indianhead
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US soldier removed from Iraq for shooting at Quran
By KIM GAMEL – 4 hours ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — An American sniper was removed from Iraq after he used a copy of the Quran for target practice, the military said Sunday, a day after a U.S. commander held a formal ceremony apologizing to Sunni tribal leaders.

The elaborate ceremony — in which one U.S. officer kissed a new copy of Islam's holy book before giving it to the tribal leaders — reflected the military's eagerness to stave off anger among Sunni Arabs it has been cultivating as allies.

The tribesmen have become key in the fight against al-Qaida in Iraq militants, who depict the American forces as anti-Islamic occupiers. One anti-U.S. Iraqi Sunni group condemned the Quran shooting, calling it "a hideous act." Similar perceived insults to Islam have triggered protests throughout the Muslim world.

Iraqi police found the bullet-riddled Quran with graffiti inside the cover on a firing range near a police station in Radwaniyah, a former insurgent stronghold west of Baghdad, U.S. military spokesman Col. Bill Buckner said.

American commanders launched an inquiry that led to disciplinary action against the unidentified soldier, who has been removed from Iraq, Buckner said.

Members of the local U.S.-allied group said the Quran was found with 14 bullet holes in a field after U.S. troops withdrew from a base in the area.

Sheik Ahmed Khudayer al-Janabi, a local tribal leader, said the group had planned a protest march last Thursday but called it off under pressure from U.S. forces and to prevent any insurgent violence as retaliation.

The incident, which occurred on May 9 and was discovered two days later, was first reported by CNN, which broadcast a ceremony at which the top American commander in Baghdad apologized to tribal leaders Saturday in Radwaniyah. The military confirmed the details Sunday in an e-mailed response to a query.

"I come before you here seeking your forgiveness," Maj. Gen. Jeffery Hammond was quoted as saying at the ceremony. "In the most humble manner I look in your eyes today and I say please forgive me and my soldiers."

"The actions of one soldier were nothing more than criminal behavior," he added. "I've come to this land to protect you, to support you — not to harm you — and the behavior of this soldier was nothing short of wrong and unacceptable."

The commander also read a letter of apology by the shooter, who has not been identified, while another military official kissed a Quran and presented it to the tribal leaders, according to CNN.

Tribal leaders, dignitaries and local security officials attended the ceremony, while protesters carried banners and chanted slogans, including "Yes, yes to the Quran" and "America out, out."

The military statement called the incident "serious and deeply troubling" but stressed it was the result of one soldier's actions and "not representative of the professionalism of our soldiers or the respect they have for all faiths."

The hard-line Association of Muslim Scholars condemned the shooting and what it said was a belated acknowledgment of the incident, calling it "a hideous act against the book of almighty God and the constitution of the nation and the source of its glory and dignity."

The alliances between Sunni tribes and U.S. forces have been key to a steep decline in violence over the past year. But the Quran incident was the latest in a series of setbacks, including the accidental killings of U.S.-allied fighters, that have raised concerns about the fragility of the support for the American forces.

U.S. troops also have struggled to overcome the perception that they are insensitive to Islamic traditions after several missteps in the early stages of the war in Iraq.

Sheik Eid Majid al-Zubaie, the preacher at the Radwaniyah mosque, said local leaders were outraged over the discovery of the Quran, which he said was shot through and had big dark X's and other graffiti on the pages. But he said they had accepted the military's apology.

"There is not any difference between this soldier and the figure in Denmark who made the caricature drawings against the Prophet Muhammad," al-Zubaie said. "But they apologized and expelled the soldier."

Separately, relatives mourned the deaths of at least five children killed when mortar shells slammed into a neighborhood while they were playing outside in a predominantly Shiite area on the eastern outskirts of Baghdad on Saturday.

Bandaged girls and boys with bloodstained clothes cried as they were packed two to a bed at the hospital to which they were taken in the Shiite stronghold of Sadr City.

Mortar rounds struck a house, an open area and a street where boys were playing soccer in the Maamil neighborhood on Baghdad's northeastern outskirts, witnesses said.

Nadim Jabir, 33, said he lost his 4-year-old son Abbas, and that his wife and 10-year-old daughter were wounded when their mud-brick house was hit.

"My wife was panicked and ran out with my three children," he said, adding he ran after them but was thrown to the ground by the force of another blast.

"When the dust settled, I saw my only boy Abbas lying on the ground with many other kids. All were groaning and some kids were missing limbs. Abbas was hit in his head," he said.

Residents said four other children were killed. Police and hospital officials also reported a man was killed and at least 30 people were wounded.

The mortar strikes occurred as sporadic fighting continues between Shiite militiamen and U.S.-Iraqi forces despite a peace deal reached with followers of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr last week.

An American soldier also was killed Sunday by a roadside bomb that hit his vehicle north of Baghdad, raising to at least 4,080 the number of U.S. service members who have died since the Iraq war began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

Associated Press writer Bushra Juhi contributed to this report.

Oops...the Army used to be OD...now it's PC.
The dummy should have buried the book, then policed up his shell casings.
Pegatha

The "dummy" should have never done it in the first place. He is a first-class "expletive deleted". Who could have done great damage to his cause, if he has a cause, and been the direct cause of many deaths.
Livyjr
There's a controversy of sorts going on up here where I am in the USA ...

It seems that a young girl up at one of the fancier and more well-to-do school districts up this way in tony Clifton Park, New York was called a "SAND N-WORD" ....

And the popular punch line going around is that she went home and complained to her mother, who looked back at her and said, "well, you are an Arab ..."

People think it is pretty funny, this young Arabic woman being called a "SAND N-WORD" ....

And these people who think that it is funny are Americans ....

REAL AMERICANS they would probably say ....

REAL AMERICANS who get up each day and salute the flag and say "GOD BLESS AMERICA" at the top of their lungs for all the candid world to hear ...

REAL AMERICANS who have a picture of George W. Bush on one side of their living room wall ...

And right next to it, a picture of Dick Cheney in a matching frame ....

The first time I ever heard the term "SAND N-WORD" used to describe an Arab, and specifically, an Iraqi, was in a book that I was reading about American Commander-In-Chief George W. Bush's BLITZKRIEG invasion of IRAQINAM ....

Either COBRA II or FIASCO, one of the two ...

That term was attributed to one of General Raymond "THUG" Odierno's officers ....

"ALL THESE SAND N-WORDS UNDERSTAND IS FORCE, AND WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM A HEALTHY DOSE", or words to that effect ....

COMMAND CLIMATE or COMMAND CULTURE that is called ....

The Commanding General gets his marching orders and the way that he is supposed to think from the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, and then the Commanding General makes damn sure that his attitude is passed right on down through the chain-of-command to the lowest down privates in the division ....

"LISTEN UP, GENERAL ODIERNO THINKS THAT THESE IRAQIS ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF SAND N-WORDS THAT WON'T RESPOND TO ANYTHING BUT FORCE, AND SO OUR MISSION OUT THERE EACH DAY IS TO GIVE THEM A GOOD DOSE OF IT ..."

And likely, one of those soldiers took that home with him when he came back to Clifton Park, here in New York State ...

And he instilled that belief in his children ....

And they shared that with their friends ....

"HEY, MY DAD WAS OVER THERE, AND HE KNOWS ..."

And a new generation here in America is schooled in how to think and what to believe ....

THE BUSH LEGACY ......

So many bullet holes in a Koran ....

And a young girl in Clifton Park, New York who is afraid to attend classes at ritzy, tony Schenendahowa High School ...

And so ...

"WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL IN EITHER CASE" is what people up this way are asking ....

"THEY'RE AT WAR WITH US, AFTERALL, THE SAND N-WORDS ARE ..."

And so ...

"Shen's handling of anti-Arab slur upsets family - School district defends response to incident involving 15-year-old girl"

By MARC PARRY, Staff writer, Albany, New York Times Union

First published: Thursday, May 15, 2008

CLIFTON PARK -- An Iraqi-born local peace activist and teacher has reported to State Police that her teenage daughter was taunted with an ethnic slur in a bathroom at Shenendehowa High School.

The phrase a student hurled at 15-year-old Noomi Istarabadi combined "sand" and the n-word, according to her mother, May Saffar.

But it was Istarabadi who ended up in trouble, Saffar said.

The distraught girl left school after the incident, Saffar said, which got her penalized for an unauthorized absence.


Saffar criticized school officials for not taking the situation seriously enough.

It's the latest in a series of problems her children have encountered, Saffar said, including an assault on her son, who is now 20.

Saffar teaches English as a second language in the Albany city schools and Arabic at Union College.

She also co-founded the local Muslim Solidarity Committee.

"I know I can vent through my activism -- but my kids can't take this anymore," said Saffar, 43, of Clifton Park.

Kelly DeFeciani, a Shenendehowa spokeswoman, said the school district "made every attempt" to find the girl who allegedly harassed Istarabadi.

An administrator interviewed Istarabadi, but the teen didn't know the person who insulted her and couldn't identify them after looking at a yearbook, DeFeciani said.

"There's nothing more we could do," DeFeciani said.

She confirmed that Istarabadi was disciplined for leaving school but would not give details.


DeFeciani pointed to multiple programs that the district -- whose enrollment is 90 percent white -- has to promote tolerance.

The efforts, such as National Coalition Building Institute training, are to "open up dialogue between people about issues of discrimination," she said.

The Times Union asked State Police for a copy of Saffar's report, but the newspaper was told it would have to mail in a written request for the record.

Saffar described her daughter as thoughtful and social by nature but depressed by what she has experienced.

The mother said Istarabadi wears blue contact lenses to fit in with her peers.

She has also told Saffar about overhearing classmates say another student named Mohammed "must be a terrorist."

"She doesn't want to go to school because school is not a safe place," Saffar said.

"It's not a place that nurtures her identity."

The anti-Arab insult at issue in this situation has come up in harassment cases around the country.


Locally, discrimination complaints rose after Sept. 11, 2001, but have now leveled off, said Melanie Trimble, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union Capital Region Chapter.

Trimble expressed concern that victims in bullying cases sometimes end up being the ones disciplined -- for lashing out.

"We're asking school districts to develop ... bullying policies that will protect the kid who's being bullied as well as ensure the person who is bullying is disciplined," she said.

Marc Parry can be reached at 454-5057 or by e-mail at mparry@timesunion.com.
tomhye
They're briefed on taboos and consequences. At least for a few hours he considered his amusement more important than the survival of his brothers, unless he's balanced it with extraordinary heroism or support he's lower than whale dung.
Livyjr
QUOTE(Indianhead @ May 19 2008, 08:01 AM) *
Oops...the Army used to be OD...now it's PC.

The dummy should have buried the book, then policed up his shell casings.

July 25, 2005

"The Best Army We Can Buy"

By DAVID M. KENNEDY, NY Times

THE United States now has a mercenary army.

To be sure, our soldiers are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries.

But like those Hessians, today's volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous work largely for wages and benefits - a compensation package that may not always be commensurate with the dangers in store, as current recruiting problems testify.

But the fact remains that the United States today has a military force that is extraordinarily lean and lethal, even while it is increasingly separated from the civil society on whose behalf it fights.

This is worrisome - for reasons that go well beyond unmet recruiting targets.

One troubling aspect is obvious.

By some reckonings, the Pentagon's budget is greater than the military expenditures of all other nations combined.

It buys an arsenal of precision weapons for highly trained troops who can lay down a coercive footprint in the world larger and more intimidating than anything history has known.

Our leaders tell us that our armed forces seek only just goals, and at the end of the day will be understood as exerting a benign influence.

Yet that perspective may not come so easily to those on the receiving end of that supposedly beneficent violence.

But the modern military's disjunction from American society is even more disturbing.

Since the time of the ancient Greeks through the American Revolutionary War and well into the 20th century, the obligation to bear arms and the privileges of citizenship have been intimately linked.

It was for the sake of that link between service and a full place in society that the founders were so invested in militias and so worried about standing armies, which Samuel Adams warned were "always dangerous to the liberties of the people."


From Aristotle's Athens to Machiavelli's Florence to Thomas Jefferson's Virginia and Robert Gould Shaw's Boston and beyond, the tradition of the citizen-soldier has served the indispensable purposes of sustaining civic engagement, protecting individual liberty - and guaranteeing political accountability.

That tradition has now been all but abandoned.
Indianhead
Damned right.
A war should be declared by Congress...
all this back-door authorization "if"...
all-volunteer B.S. is just a backdoor way
for personalities to start a war and try to force
everyone else to support it after started.

Reinstitute the draft if a war starts...
give everybody a taste...forge a generation
and maybe they would'd be dumbed-down by
video games and ideological B.S.

Not that I have an opinion.

BTW, at least the sniper seemed to hit what he was shootin' at.
tomhye
QUOTE(Indianhead @ May 19 2008, 04:15 PM) *
Damned right.
A war should be declared by Congress...
all this back-door authorization "if"...
all-volunteer B.S. is just a backdoor way
for personalities to start a war and try to force
everyone else to support it after started.

Reinstitute the draft if a war starts...
give everybody a taste...forge a generation
and maybe they would'd be dumbed-down by
video games and ideological B.S.

Not that I have an opinion.

BTW, at least the sniper seemed to hit what he was shootin' at.



I'll get a bad reaction from most but a draft isn't a bad idea even without a war. It makes the public view policies differently, gets young people engaged in at least discussing public affairs and international relations and gives many some discipline that will help them throughout their lives.
Indianhead
In my world the draft put me in close proximity
to Middle Easterners and black men I had not
eaten with, sleep near, or depended on under fire.

I learned some were f*ckin' trash (as well as white guys),
but most were heart and soul, and deserved every respect and
chance in life I had. It may have caused some desention in ranks,
but it was a balancing effect...that, IMHO, made us better.

It also forced folks to decide if they should go, or immigrate.
It was a watershed that defined individuals...and that's why
I supported re-patriation...we all carry our own water.

Pegatha
QUOTE(tomhye @ May 19 2008, 06:24 PM) *
I'll get a bad reaction from most but a draft isn't a bad idea even without a war. It makes the public view policies differently, gets young people engaged in at least discussing public affairs and international relations and gives many some discipline that will help them throughout their lives.


Not from me. I firmly believe in national service, although it shouldn't necessarily require armed service. But armed service should be better paid.

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