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MEMORIAL DAY 2008

Fallen But Never Forgotten - Blackfive, Blackfive
Reflections by Frontier 6 - Frontier 6, CAC Blog
Reflections by Frontier 6 - Jack, DoD Live
Memorial Day 2008 - CJ, A Solider's Perspective
Mullen Cites Importance of Remembrance in Memorial Day Message - AFPS
To Live with Honor - Joseph Morrison, National Review
Memorial Day 2008 - Austin Bay, Washington Times
Forgotten Heroes - Ed Sherwood, Washington Times
Mystic Chords of Memory - Mackubin Thomas Owens, National Review
A Weekend to Remember Them - Joseph Rehyansky, Human Events
Returning Meaning to Memorial Day - Bret Schulte, US News & World Report
Burial at Arlington - Douglas Stone, Human Events
Let Us Remember Them - Colbert King, Washington Post
Protesting the Antiwar Protestors - Kevin Ferris, Wall Street Journal
Ross McGinnis: Medal of Honor - Chuck Simmins, America's North Shore Journal
Where They’ve Been, What They’ve Done - Cannoneer No. 4, CIIDG
Memorial Day - Herschel Smith, The Captain's Journal
Why Didn't We Listen to Their War Stories? - Edward Lengel, Washington Post
Washington Set to be 'Thunder'-Struck - Jennifer Harper, Washington Times
Vietnam Wall: Personal, Searchable - Washington Times

Livyjr
HERE IS SOMEBODY TO ADD TO THE LIST, BIGTOM ...

"Marine who died after Grand Canyon crash, carjacking, cross-state chase wrote of war stress"


By ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN, Associated Press

Last updated: 12:22 p.m., Saturday, May 17, 2008

TUCSON, Ariz. -- Last month, Marine Staff Sgt. Travis N. "T-Bo" Twiggs went to the White House with a group of Iraq war veterans called the Wounded Warriors Regiment and met the president.

Twiggs had been through four tours in Iraq, one in Afghanistan and months of therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder in which he said he was on up to 12 different medications.


"He said, 'Sir, I've served over there many times, and I would serve for you any time,' and he grabbed the president and gave him a big hug," said Kellee Twiggs, his widow.

About two weeks later, Travis Twiggs went absent without leave from his job in Quantico, Va.

He and his brother drove to the Grand Canyon, where their car was found hanging in a tree in what appeared to be a failed attempt to drive into the chasm.

The brothers carjacked a vehicle at the park Monday.

Two days later they were at a southwestern Arizona border checkpoint, and took off when they were asked to pull into a secondary inspection area, Border Patrol spokesman Michael Bernacke said.

Eighty miles later, the car was on the Tohono O'odham reservation, its tires wrecked by spike strips.

As tribal police and Border Patrol agents closed in, Twiggs, 36, apparently fatally shot his 38-year-old brother, Willard J. "Will" Twiggs, then killed himself.


Pinal County Sheriff's spokesman Mike Minter said no motive has been established.

But Kellee Twiggs said the decorated Marine would still be alive if the military had given him enough help.

"All this violent behavior, him killing his brother, that was not my husband."

"If the PTSD would have been handled in a correct manner, none of this would have happened," she said in a telephone interview from Stafford, Va.


Travis Twiggs, who enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1993 and held the combat action ribbon, wrote about his efforts to deal with post-traumatic stress disorder in the January issue of the Marine Corps Gazette.

The symptoms would disappear when he began each tour, he said, but came back stronger than ever when he came home.

He wrote that his life began to "spiral downward" after the tour in which two Marines from his platoon died.

"I cannot describe what a leader feels when he does not bring everyone home," he wrote.

"To make matters even worse, I arrived at the welcome home site only to find that those two Marines' families were waiting to greet me as well."

"I remember thinking, 'Why are they here?'"

Weeks later, Twiggs "saw a physician's assistant who said that was the severest case of PTSD she'd seen in her life," his widow said.

He began receiving treatment, but the Marine wrote that he mixed his medications with alcohol and that his symptoms didn't go away until he started his final tour in Iraq.

When he came home, "All of my symptoms were back, and now I was in the process of destroying my family," he wrote.

"My only regrets are how I let my command down after they had put so much trust in me and how I let my family down by pushing them away."


Kellee Twiggs said her husband was "very, very different, angry, agitated, isolated and so forth," upon his return.

"He was just doing crazy things."

She said her husband was treated in the psychiatric ward of Bethesda Naval Medical Center and then sent to a Veterans Administration facility for four months.

Most recently, Travis Twiggs was assigned to the Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory at Quantico, a job he said helped him "get my life back on track."

"Every day is a better day now," he wrote in the Marine Corps Gazette.

"...Looking back, I don't believe anyone is to blame for my craziness, but I do think we can do better."

Twiggs urged others suffering from similar problems to seek help.

"PTSD is not a weakness."

"It is a normal reaction to a very violent situation," he wrote.


Kellee Twiggs said she can't understand why her husband was not sent to a specialized PTSD clinic in New Jersey.

"They let him out."

"He was OK for a while and then it all started over again," she said.

A spokesman at Quantico, 1st Lt. Brian Donnelly, said the Corps is committed to providing full medical, psychological and social support to anyone with a combat-related injury, including PTSD.

"Our leaders are trained to be alert for signs of PTSD in their Marines and to provide a supportive climate in which Marines can feel comfortable seeking help," Donnelly said.

One lingering mystery in Twiggs' case is his older brother.

Kellee Twiggs said she thinks the Louisiana man joined her husband in driving west "because T-Bo was hurting so bad and for so long that Will's life was a little in chaos."

"For them to both drive off into the Grand Canyon, they both apparently wanted to end their lives," she said.

Kellee Twiggs said "something needs to be fixed" in treating soldiers coming home from combat with PTSD.

"These boys and girls coming back, they need help, things need to be changed, and they don't need to be made to feel weak for asking for help," she said.
bigtom
I will proudly carry the flag of the 36th Division again this year in honor of our soldiers who gave their all.
We will be at the Veterans Memorial Cemetary in Houston at 0700 Hrs.
Anyone who wants to join us is welcome.

Its not about being pro/anti war or making a political statement....
Its about honoring those who served.


UNDERSTAND?
Marine
QUOTE(Livyjr @ May 25 2008, 12:49 PM) *
HERE IS SOMEBODY TO ADD TO THE LIST, BIGTOM ...

"Marine who died after Grand Canyon crash, carjacking, cross-state chase wrote of war stress"


By ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN, Associated Press

Last updated: 12:22 p.m., Saturday, May 17, 2008

TUCSON, Ariz. -- Last month, Marine Staff Sgt. Travis N. "T-Bo" Twiggs went to the White House with a group of Iraq war veterans called the Wounded Warriors Regiment and met the president.

Twiggs had been through four tours in Iraq, one in Afghanistan and months of therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder in which he said he was on up to 12 different medications.


"He said, 'Sir, I've served over there many times, and I would serve for you any time,' and he grabbed the president and gave him a big hug," said Kellee Twiggs, his widow.

About two weeks later, Travis Twiggs went absent without leave from his job in Quantico, Va.

He and his brother drove to the Grand Canyon, where their car was found hanging in a tree in what appeared to be a failed attempt to drive into the chasm.

The brothers carjacked a vehicle at the park Monday.

Two days later they were at a southwestern Arizona border checkpoint, and took off when they were asked to pull into a secondary inspection area, Border Patrol spokesman Michael Bernacke said.

Eighty miles later, the car was on the Tohono O'odham reservation, its tires wrecked by spike strips.

As tribal police and Border Patrol agents closed in, Twiggs, 36, apparently fatally shot his 38-year-old brother, Willard J. "Will" Twiggs, then killed himself.


Pinal County Sheriff's spokesman Mike Minter said no motive has been established.

But Kellee Twiggs said the decorated Marine would still be alive if the military had given him enough help.

"All this violent behavior, him killing his brother, that was not my husband."

"If the PTSD would have been handled in a correct manner, none of this would have happened," she said in a telephone interview from Stafford, Va.


Travis Twiggs, who enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1993 and held the combat action ribbon, wrote about his efforts to deal with post-traumatic stress disorder in the January issue of the Marine Corps Gazette.

The symptoms would disappear when he began each tour, he said, but came back stronger than ever when he came home.

He wrote that his life began to "spiral downward" after the tour in which two Marines from his platoon died.

"I cannot describe what a leader feels when he does not bring everyone home," he wrote.

"To make matters even worse, I arrived at the welcome home site only to find that those two Marines' families were waiting to greet me as well."

"I remember thinking, 'Why are they here?'"

Weeks later, Twiggs "saw a physician's assistant who said that was the severest case of PTSD she'd seen in her life," his widow said.

He began receiving treatment, but the Marine wrote that he mixed his medications with alcohol and that his symptoms didn't go away until he started his final tour in Iraq.

When he came home, "All of my symptoms were back, and now I was in the process of destroying my family," he wrote.

"My only regrets are how I let my command down after they had put so much trust in me and how I let my family down by pushing them away."


Kellee Twiggs said her husband was "very, very different, angry, agitated, isolated and so forth," upon his return.

"He was just doing crazy things."

She said her husband was treated in the psychiatric ward of Bethesda Naval Medical Center and then sent to a Veterans Administration facility for four months.

Most recently, Travis Twiggs was assigned to the Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory at Quantico, a job he said helped him "get my life back on track."

"Every day is a better day now," he wrote in the Marine Corps Gazette.

"...Looking back, I don't believe anyone is to blame for my craziness, but I do think we can do better."

Twiggs urged others suffering from similar problems to seek help.

"PTSD is not a weakness."

"It is a normal reaction to a very violent situation," he wrote.


Kellee Twiggs said she can't understand why her husband was not sent to a specialized PTSD clinic in New Jersey.

"They let him out."

"He was OK for a while and then it all started over again," she said.

A spokesman at Quantico, 1st Lt. Brian Donnelly, said the Corps is committed to providing full medical, psychological and social support to anyone with a combat-related injury, including PTSD.

"Our leaders are trained to be alert for signs of PTSD in their Marines and to provide a supportive climate in which Marines can feel comfortable seeking help," Donnelly said.

One lingering mystery in Twiggs' case is his older brother.

Kellee Twiggs said she thinks the Louisiana man joined her husband in driving west "because T-Bo was hurting so bad and for so long that Will's life was a little in chaos."

"For them to both drive off into the Grand Canyon, they both apparently wanted to end their lives," she said.

Kellee Twiggs said "something needs to be fixed" in treating soldiers coming home from combat with PTSD.

"These boys and girls coming back, they need help, things need to be changed, and they don't need to be made to feel weak for asking for help," she said.

Well, anyone whose been in combt has PTSD to one degree or another. Meds don't work and alchohol sure doesn't. And it don't go away.

Just when you think you've seen the last of it there it is again. The wife said I sat up in bed at 0400 this morning cursing someone, calling them a liar, and I was going to break their neck; I don't remember a thing about it. Scared the Hell out of her though.

As usual, the usual victims of PTSD are the folks you love.
tomhye
QUOTE(Marine @ May 25 2008, 06:17 PM) *
Well, anyone whose been in combt has PTSD to one degree or another. Meds don't work and alchohol sure doesn't. And it don't go away.

Just when you think you've seen the last of it there it is again. The wife said I sat up in bed at 0400 this morning cursing someone, calling them a liar, and I was going to break their neck; I don't remember a thing about it. Scared the Hell out of her though.

As usual, the usual victims of PTSD are the folks you love.



Whether it manifests that way or not what you're saying is certainly true, it's more than the psyche can handle, but I do know people for whom it has slowly faded and recurrences aren't as bad.
Marine
QUOTE(tomhye @ May 25 2008, 08:21 PM) *
Whether it manifests that way or not what you're saying is certainly true, it's more than the psyche can handle, but I do know people for whom it has slowly faded and recurrences aren't as bad.

That's true..............but.

You can go for years and think nothing is ever go to set you off again. Four years ago,about this time of the year the wife and I went on a Carribean cruise. First night out on the boat and I'm standing up in bed howling like a maniac. I was afraid they'd put us off the ship the next morning when we docked in Key West. Sometimes it's just a foul mood and sometimes I'm a maniac. I had a real good Doc who taught me a bunch on how to recognize things which set me off so as I can avoid them.

I hadn't heard a Grenadian accent in 30 years and guess what? Our head waiter was from Grenada. I had a bad feeling when we went to bed and all those memories just came back like a tidal wave engulfing me and sucking me under. I hadn't had an occurrence like that in better than twenty years.

You want to hear something screwy? One of the stimuluses that will put me into a real tailspin? The odor of Dial Soap. When I flew out to the ship after three days on Grenada the first thing I done was shower. I stood in that hot shower soaping myself up good with Dial Soap and thinking about what I'd just been through for must a been an hour. The Doc says I permanently imprinted an association of my experiences and the smell of that soap and it won't ever change. So now I'm a SafeGuard man.
Pegatha
QUOTE(Marine @ May 25 2008, 09:57 PM) *
So now I'm a SafeGuard man.


I love you guys, and thank you for your service.


tomhye
QUOTE(Marine @ May 25 2008, 07:57 PM) *
That's true..............but.

You can go for years and think nothing is ever go to set you off again. Four years ago,about this time of the year the wife and I went on a Carribean cruise. First night out on the boat and I'm standing up in bed howling like a maniac. I was afraid they'd put us off the ship the next morning when we docked in Key West. Sometimes it's just a foul mood and sometimes I'm a maniac. I had a real good Doc who taught me a bunch on how to recognize things which set me off so as I can avoid them.

I hadn't heard a Grenadian accent in 30 years and guess what? Our head waiter was from Grenada. I had a bad feeling when we went to bed and all those memories just came back like a tidal wave engulfing me and sucking me under. I hadn't had an occurrence like that in better than twenty years.

You want to hear something screwy? One of the stimuluses that will put me into a real tailspin? The odor of Dial Soap. When I flew out to the ship after three days on Grenada the first thing I done was shower. I stood in that hot shower soaping myself up good with Dial Soap and thinking about what I'd just been through for must a been an hour. The Doc says I permanently imprinted an association of my experiences and the smell of that soap and it won't ever change. So now I'm a SafeGuard man.



Never been in combat but for me the biggies are people behind me on stairs (got pushed down the stairs a lot at one point) or touching my throat (survived a lynching). They can abate, but they can return. The thing about imprinting is true, all I can say is that over decades certain parts of the pain can decrease even if the reflexes don't totally go away.
Snuffysmith
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Remember those who died for your freedom
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For Memorial Day -- Quiet Sacrificeby Tom PurcellThere should be debate on policy, but there is no debate about the sacrifice of these honorable soldiers.

Burial at Arlingtonby Douglas StoneRemembering Those Willing to Make the Ultimate Sacrifice.
rla
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ May 26 2008, 12:15 AM) *

The only sane thing that could be said about this Memorial Day.
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Bill Moyers/Michael Winship:
Honoring Our Veterans
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Remembering to Remember - William Kristol, New York Times
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Saluting Those Who Serve - Edwin Feulner, Washington Times
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Attending Funeral Duty - William Troy, Washington Post
Livyjr
Hey!

Steve Belsley ......

Jack Apodaca ....

The Puerto Rican guy ....

Lt. Grant ...

And all the rest whose names I never really knew ....

You're not forgotten over on this side of the divide ....

Your memories live on in those of us who remain ....

And so ...
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