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Barclays warns of a financial storm as Federal Reserve's credibility crumbles

Last Updated: 12:01am BST 28/06/2008

US central bank accused of unleashing an inflation shock that will rock financial markets, reports Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Barclays Capital has advised clients to batten down the hatches for a worldwide financial storm, warning that the US Federal Reserve has allowed the inflation genie out of the bottle and let its credibility fall "below zero".

"We're in a nasty environment," said Tim Bond, the bank's chief equity strategist. "There is an inflation shock underway. This is going to be very negative for financial assets. We are going into tortoise mood and are retreating into our shell. Investors will do well if they can preserve their wealth."

Barclays Capital said in its closely-watched Global Outlook that US headline inflation would hit 5.5pc by August and the Fed will have to raise interest rates six times by the end of next year to prevent a wage-spiral. If it hesitates, the bond markets will take matters into their own hands. "This is the first test for central banks in 30 years and they have fluffed it. They have zero credibility, and the Fed is negative if that's possible. It has lost all credibility," said Mr Bond.

The grim verdict on Ben Bernanke's Fed was underscored by the markets yesterday as the dollar fell against the euro following the bank's dovish policy statement on Wednesday.

Traders said the Fed seemed to be rowing back from rate rises. The effect was to propel oil to $138 a barrel, confirming its role as a sort of "anti-dollar" and as a market reproach to Washington's easy-money policies.

The Fed's stimulus is being transmitted to the 45-odd countries linked to the dollar around world. The result is surging commodity prices. Global inflation has jumped from 3.2pc to 5pc over the last year.

Mr Bond said the emerging world is now on the cusp of a serious crisis. "Inflation is out of control in Asia. Vietnam has already blown up. The policy response is to shoot the messenger, like the developed central banks in the late 1960s and 1970s," he said.

"They will have to slam on the brakes. There is going to be a deep global recession over the next three years as policy-makers try to get inflation back in the box."

Barclays Capital recommends outright "short" positions on Asian bonds, warning that yields could jump 200 to 300 basis points. The currencies of trade-deficit states like India should be sold. The US yield curve is likely to "steepen" with a vengeance, causing a bloodbath for bond holders.

David Woo, the bank's currency chief, said the Fed's policy of benign neglect towards the dollar had been stymied by oil, which is now eating deep into the country's standard of living. "The world has changed all of a sudden. The market is going to push the Fed into a tightening stance," he said.

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The bank said the full damage from the global banking crisis would take another year to unfold.

Rob McAdie, Barclays' credit strategist, said: "The core issues have not been addressed. We're still in a very large deleveraging cycle and we're seeing losses continue to mount. We think smaller banks will struggle to raise capital. We're very bearish - in the long-term - on high-yield debt. The default rate will reach 8pc to 9pc next year."

He said investors had taken their eye off the slow-motion disaster engulfing the US bond insurers or "monolines". Together these firms guarantee $170bn of structured credit and $1,000bn of US municipal bonds.

The two leaders - MBIA and Ambac - have already been downgraded as the rating agencies belatedly turn stringent. The risk is further downgrades could set off a fresh wave of bank troubles. "The creditworthiness of many US financial institutions will decline in coming months," he said.

The bank warned that engineering and auto firms we're likely to face a crunch as steel and oil costs surge. "Their business models will have to be substantially altered if they are going to survive," said Mr McAdie.

A small chorus of City bankers dissent from the view that inflation is the chief danger in the US and other rich OECD countries. The teams at Société Générale, Dresdner Kleinwort, and Banque AIG all warn that deflation may loom as housing markets crumble under record levels of household debt.

Bernard Connolly, global startegist at Banque AIG, said inflation targeting by central banks had become a "totemism that threatens to crush the world economy".

He said it would be madness to throw millions out of work by deflating part of the economy to offset a rise in imported fuel and food prices. Real wages are being squeezed by oil, come what may. It may be healthier for society to let it happen gently.


Looks to me like we are heading toward a really bad crash. When foreign investors won't carry our bonds... we're screwed. When the FED raises interest rates to keep the bond market from crashing... we're screwed.

SO... THE CHICKENS ARE FINALLY COMING HOME TO ROOST AND THE GAME OF CHARADES THE FED HAS BEEN PLAYING... BY PUMPING THE ECONOMY AT THE EXPENSE OF FINANCIAL STABILITY AND ENCOURAGING OVEREXTENSION OF INDEBTEDNESS BY ARTIFICIALLY LOW INTEREST RATES AND LOOSE MONEY POLICIES (MARKET MANIPULATION)... HAS FINALLY PUT THE UNITED STATES IN A NO WIN SITUATION.

Recession HELL... we're 2 to 3 years away from a TREMENDOUS DEPRESSION.

Better batten down the hatches and accumulate food and invest in hard assets... your dollar is going into the crapper.

jeffmoskin
QUOTE(NiteOwl @ Jun 30 2008, 07:29 AM) *
Better batten down the hatches and accumulate food and invest in hard assets... your dollar is going into the crapper.

Food yes, hard assets no.

You can't eat gold.
NiteOwl
QUOTE(jeffmoskin @ Jun 30 2008, 10:40 AM) *
Food yes, hard assets no.

You can't eat gold.


Nope, you can't eat gold, but... gold will be the only thing that will hold a value that can be bargained with. Nobody will want the U.S. dollar.... and you'll need a wheelbarrow instead of a wallet to carry enough currency to buy a loaf of bread.

Marine
QUOTE(NiteOwl @ Jun 30 2008, 09:29 AM) *
Looks to me like we are heading toward a really bad crash. When foreign investors won't carry our bonds... we're screwed. When the FED raises interest rates to keep the bond market from crashing... we're screwed.

SO... THE CHICKENS ARE FINALLY COMING HOME TO ROOST AND THE GAME OF CHARADES THE FED HAS BEEN PLAYING... BY PUMPING THE ECONOMY AT THE EXPENSE OF FINANCIAL STABILITY AND ENCOURAGING OVEREXTENSION OF INDEBTEDNESS BY ARTIFICIALLY LOW INTEREST RATES AND LOOSE MONEY POLICIES (MARKET MANIPULATION)... HAS FINALLY PUT THE UNITED STATES IN A NO WIN SITUATION.

Recession HELL... we're 2 to 3 years away from a TREMENDOUS DEPRESSION.

Better batten down the hatches and accumulate food and invest in hard assets... your dollar is going into the crapper.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to $4.00 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up;
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.




NiteOwl
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 30 2008, 10:51 AM) *
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to $4.00 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up;
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.



Yep... it's all happened just since January 2007 when they took office. Not bad destroying everything in less than 18 months. The fastest acting legislation in history.

Come on. GMAFB.

I've got a url for ya....

www.freerepublic.com

I'm sure you'd find many there who share these views... no matter how illconceived they be.




Arneoker
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 30 2008, 10:51 AM) *
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to $4.00 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up;
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.

Well since the Democratic Congress got elected Miley Cyrus has gone on a major concert tour that was made into a movie, and she and her dad have made oodles more money. So what the election of the Democratic Congress have to do with all of that? I would think nothing, but maybe you can show how it is otherwise, just as maybe you can show how it had something to do with your items 1 through 6.

Then again, maybe you can't and you won't.
TheRestofUs
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 30 2008, 07:51 AM) *
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to $4.00 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up;
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.

Maybe you'll remember who's mostly been in charge in Congress since 94? This is Reagan's ghost come back to haunt us. These are due to long and short term massively corrupt monetary and economic practices, and all of which are either due to or exaserbated by Republican or "Republican-like" led economic policies Marine... but then you knew that. What is needed is a return to New Deal Policies that help the poor and especially the middle class rise and grow strong again. This, all this, is the result of allowing corporate rule, and largely brought to you by their handmaidens; the Republican Party.

But...suit yourself.
rla
QUOTE(TheRestofUs @ Jun 30 2008, 10:58 AM) *
Maybe you'll remember who's mostly been in charge in Congress since 94? This is Reagan's ghost come back to haunt us. These are due to long and short term massively corrupt monetary and economic practices, and all of which are either due to or exaserbated by Republican or "Republican-like" led economic policies Marine... but then you knew that. What is needed is a return to New Deal Policies that help the poor and especially the middle class rise and grow strong again. This, all this, is the result of allowing corporate rule, and largely brought to you by their handmaidens; the Republican Party.

But...suit yourself.

I agree in general. However, the Democratic Party Leadership, under the sway of blue dog
democrats have been equally guilty of handing over power to the corporporations. Democrats, with a small d, want democracy.
Arneoker
I would have to point out that no one can do anything about the economy, or any other national problem, without achieving political victory.
NiteOwl
QUOTE(rla @ Jun 30 2008, 12:11 PM) *
I agree in general. However, the Democratic Party Leadership, under the sway of blue dog
democrats have been equally guilty of handing over power to the corporporations. Democrats, with a small d, want democracy.


And it is these "conservative" Dems which have enabled the GOP. I have no use for their Republican-Lite posture feigning a conservative posture while selling out the core interests of the Democratic Party.

I sometimes wonder if they are not simply a part of the GOP aimed at enabling GOP policies by weakening the Democratic Party from within.

Needless to say I have little use for these 'in name only" Democrats.


tomhye
QUOTE(Marine @ Jun 30 2008, 07:51 AM) *
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to $4.00 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up;
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.



Of course those trends starting in 2005 is also the fault of people elected in 2006, it's part of their conspiracy to blame it on a housing bubble and fundamental weakness in the dollar due to high debt and artificial stimulus from low Fed rates. I'm sure glad you have the expertise to avoid falling the trap of thinking market imbalances cause wild swings instead of blaming people you don't like!
Frenchy
Ron Paul warned y'all!
xyzse
QUOTE(Frenchy @ Jun 30 2008, 12:39 PM) *
Ron Paul warned y'all!
I agree but he is not the Republican candidate.
Arneoker
To the extent that we can blame anyone besides impersonal market forces (which inevitably cause problems at times, even in the best managed and regulated economies) I agree that we must blame the Fed for feeding the real estate bubble that has now burst. There is also the general worldwide inflation of commodity prices, which may be at least partially the fault of 1) the Fed for pumping too much money into the worldwide system, and 2) countries who have kept their own currencies pegged to the dollar, thus importing our policies, which aren't necessarily good for them whether or not they were good for us. But there is also the matter of the increasing wealth of emerging market economies, which means upward pressure on commodity prices for a while anyway.
NiteOwl
QUOTE(Frenchy @ Jun 30 2008, 12:39 PM) *
Ron Paul warned y'all!




QUOTE(xyzse @ Jun 30 2008, 12:41 PM) *
I agree but he is not the Republican candidate.



Ron Who ?

Oh... you mean that Guy that the GOP and mainstream media have essentially silenced, disavowed, and have done their darndest to silence ? That Guy that is fearlessly taking on the establishment ?

Yeah... that Guy.. Ron Who.


A perfect example of what the establishment does to those who do not conform to their agenda. Despite a great deal support and unbelievable grassroots support and fundraising, he has hardly been able to get a word in print or an interview on TV. He's essentially blackballed like Kucinich. I support his efforts and hope that he, and others like him can reach a critical mass where they can be heard and make a real difference. Fighting this establishment is an uphill, thankless, battle where many cannot withstand the criticism and ostracization. He is a true patriot. One of the few.
Frenchy
QUOTE(xyzse @ Jun 30 2008, 11:41 AM) *
I agree but he is not the Republican candidate.


Yup...We as a nation are way too smart to listen to the likes of him!
NiteOwl
QUOTE(Arneoker @ Jun 30 2008, 12:48 PM) *
To the extent that we can blame anyone besides impersonal market forces (which inevitably cause problems at times, even in the best managed and regulated economies) I agree that we must blame the Fed for feeding the real estate bubble that has now burst. There is also the general worldwide inflation of commodity prices, which may be at least partially the fault of 1) the Fed for pumping too much money into the worldwide system, and 2) countries who have kept their own currencies pegged to the dollar, thus importing our policies, which aren't necessarily good for them whether or not they were good for us. But there is also the matter of the increasing wealth of emerging market economies, which means upward pressure on commodity prices for a while anyway.



A great deal of the gas price / petroleum price increase is due to devaluation of the dollar. I plan to post some info on this as time permits.

Most of the inflation that we are going to be seeing is related to the devaluation of the dollar and not becuase of explosive growth in demand although demand is increasing and is a component.

They've really screwed us over... first kill wage rates... then kill the value of the dollar and pretty soon we're just another third world economy (as far as the working class goes).
grammydidi
QUOTE(NiteOwl @ Jun 30 2008, 11:27 AM) *
And it is these "conservative" Dems which have enabled the GOP. I have no use for their Republican-Lite posture feigning a conservative posture while selling out the core interests of the Democratic Party.

I sometimes wonder if they are not simply a part of the GOP aimed at enabling GOP policies by weakening the Democratic Party from within.

Needless to say I have little use for these 'in name only" Democrats.



Yep. They're moles, who got elected under false pretences.
Snuffysmith
It wasn't only the Republicans. Better ask yourself who deregulated the banks and got rid of Glass Steagall? Who brought on NAFTA? Who hired Alan Greenspan and kept him on? Its time to clean house in Congress big time.
Snuffysmith
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NiteOwl
QUOTE(Snuffysmith @ Jun 30 2008, 11:36 PM) *
It wasn't only the Republicans. Better ask yourself who deregulated the banks and got rid of Glass Steagall? Who brought on NAFTA? Who hired Alan Greenspan and kept him on? Its time to clean house in Congress big time.


AMEN !!!

Time for an "out the incumbent" movement.

They ALL need to go.
Snuffysmith
This isn't rocket science:

George Carlin, 1937-2008
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Snuffysmith
A poisoned chalice
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THE BEAR'S LAIR
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Intervention will not
stop dollar's slide

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